Request for the moderator position in Greek board

[BlackHatCoiner]

I have noticed that my sub-board's moderator is inactive (mitzie) nearly two months now. Recently the Greek board experienced a sort of spam tornado in this thread, which intrudes the forum rules[1], and I don't believe there's any staff member who would notice my report (there aren't lots who speak Greek to begin with, let alone to moderate the board).

I have also dedicated a decent part of my time in bitcointalk. I registered in March 2020, close to 3 years, and I haven't stopped being active for more than 3 days for once. For those reasons, I want to apply for the moderator position in my local board as I believe I am the most suited.

[1] Trolling, spamming, zero value posts, and among all that, it's off-topic as well.

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[Little Mouse]

How much active the board is? Unless the board is huge active and generating a lot of spam, I don't think theymos is going to add a moderator for that board.
And you also know what rules of considering yourself as a moderator, to report more and more. I'm sure you did that.

I have noticed that my sub-board's moderator is inactive (mitzie) nearly two months now.

Two months? It will be hard to convince theymos for this I think.

Good luck with your application.

[bullrun2024bro]

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You would make an excellent moderator. Good luck with your application buddy. 

If the current moderator is indeed inactive, I really hope @theymos will consider your application as soon as possible.

In the meantime, it would be awesome if another moderator could take care of the reported posts on the Greek board. Bitcointalk doesn't need another local section which becomes a spamfest tbh.

[EFS]

Greek board is pretty small. If you report posts Global Moderators can handle them. There are a lot of local boards that don't have a dedicated moderator. Even big boards like Politics & Society and Beginners & Help don't have a dedicated moderator for a long time but Global Moderators do great job there. So I don't think theymos will add new moderators unless hundreds of new reports come from those local boards.

[tranthidung]

I think above members misunderstood BlackHatCoiner request. He requested a new moderator for his local board but did not say he applied for that position.

I know he is one of best candidates for that position but if anything happens to find a new moderator for that local board, theymos will create a community vote before a final decision is out.

It is a formal procedure afaik.

New moderator needed (Korean)
Who is able and willing to moderate the Politics & Society section?

Report a lot of posts and be a very active member of the community and theymos may ask you eventually.

There will only be one moderator.

Report history is the most important consideration for a moderator candidate. Over the forum's many years, relatively "newbie" members with good report histories have consistently done much better as mods than veteran, well-respected members with poor report histories. That said, not all reports are equal, so a simple report count doesn't tell the whole story. Also, in addition to report histories, it's necessary to consider factors such as the ability of the candidate to be neutral, their trustworthiness, etc. It's also nice to choose a moderator who people generally already trust/respect, but sometimes this is outweighed by other factors.

If a poll is created, I will not completely ignore the results, but I will also not use it as a primary influence. I'm more interested in arguments people have for or against certain candidates.

Here are the top non-bad report counts for the German sections over the last 6 months, along with the German boards which those reports covered (broader coverage being better).

[BlackHatCoiner]

How much active the board is?

The board isn't very active.

Two months? It will be hard to convince theymos for this I think.

Maybe. But, current moderator being inactive isn't the only reason I apply. I've been the most active user whose mother tongue is Greek, and on top of that, I'm willing to help anybody who joins the sub-board.

Greek board is pretty small. If you report posts Global Moderators can handle them.

I'm genuinely curious to see how a person who doesn't speak Greek can verify that my report is accurate.

I think above members misunderstood BlackHatCoiner request. He requested a new moderator for his local board but did not say he applied for that position.

No, I do want to be the moderator, indeed. I acknowledge the responsibility, but as I said, I recognize myself as the most suited for that position.

[tranthidung]

No, I do want to be the moderator, indeed. I acknowledge the responsibility, but as I said, I recognize myself as the most suited for that position.

Want or not and apply for that position or not, if theymos want to find a new moderator for that board, he will make a community vote and do his checking before you get his assignment. Maybe I could be wrong and missed moderator assignment cases in the past without community vote.

theymos is so careful with his decisions which are made after in-depth consideration and investigation.

Good luck with your application

Funny thinking but it can be a bond between being a moderator and become a Chipmixer member OR being a Chipmixer member and become a moderator (maybe you will be a first case but well deserved I think).

[T3PR00T]

For those reasons, I want to apply for the moderator position in my local board as I believe I am the most suited.

With the experience in Bitcointalk and observing everything closely I am afraid you will have some people who will criticize your wish. If you have decent number of haters then it will continue pages after pages.

This type of wish is better to express in PM to either theymos or Cyrus. Just my 2 cents.

Bitcointalk have long years of history, active for three years may not be the only criteria for selecting a moderator. If there are others who are worthy to mention then you can talk to them too. All of you can work together to have the best one for your local board while we have two global moderators can help you sometimes. Increase the number of reports and let them do their work while you are working on growing some attention for the application.

[Rikafip]

Recently the Greek board experienced a sort of spam tornado in this thread, which intrudes the forum rules[1], and I don't believe there's any staff member who would notice my report (there aren't lots who speak Greek to begin with, let alone to moderate the board).

Mods don't have to speak your language in order to moderate your board and remove spam (I guess they use Google translate). It won't be perfect of course and it would be much better if you have their own board, but if you report those posts, mods will most likely remove/merge as it is a blatant breaking of forum rules. For example, Croatian local board doesn't have own moderators for the last few years ever since Lauda was removed so now we depend on the global mod sorting our reports. Earlier today I reported spam topic in our board and it was deleted in a matter of few hours.




Anyway, good luck with your request and I do hope that you get local mod appointed. We asked for the same few years ago but so far we didn't get any reply yet, maybe because our local board is pretty clean and doesn't have too much spam. I personally think that every local board should have their own mod and that role could be much more than just being a police but I guess those in charge don't agree.

[Little Mouse]

I think above members misunderstood BlackHatCoiner request. He requested a new moderator for his local board but did not say he applied for that position.

No mate, he clearly stated in the OP which you may have missed.

For those reasons, I want to apply for the moderator position in my local board as I believe I am the most suited.

Greek board is pretty small. If you report posts Global Moderators can handle them.

I'm genuinely curious to see how a person who doesn't speak Greek can verify that my report is accurate.

It's not a good option but global moderator is always moderating all the local threads. For example, our local thread- Bengali. I think they depend on automated translator + reporting history maybe. Well, Xandry has even posted in our local thread. Don't know how he landed there lol but through the help of automated translator, he has helped someone.

We asked for the same few years ago but so far we didn't get any reply yet

I always have thought you are from Russia, can't remember how I started thinking it lol.

[_BlackStar]

OP, I think there are lot of board currently moderated by global mod including local board, Begginers and Help and other languages. But it never hurts to apply to be moderator as long as you believe your local board needs one, but I guess admin have their way before deciding who is best suited for the task.

It's good idea to keep reporting ^{[''Trolling, spamming, zero value posts, and among all that, it's off-topic as well'']} to mods so they realize your local board needs proper moderation. I think there's little chance of you getting promoted as mod by applying, but who knows - maybe you just might get lucky with this app. Good luck to you.

[dkbit98]

I have noticed that my sub-board's moderator is inactive (mitzie) nearly two months now. Recently the Greek board experienced a sort of spam tornado in this thread, which intrudes the forum rules[1], and I don't believe there's any staff member who would notice my report (there aren't lots who speak Greek to begin with, let alone to moderate the board).

There must be some moderator who is responsible for your local board, maybe it's Cyrus or someone else.
All you can do is report spam posts and to active local community to be more active.... and from Rikafip monthly reports, Greek board is mostly at bottom for activity.

I have also dedicated a decent part of my time in bitcointalk. I registered in March 2020, close to 3 years, and I haven't stopped being active for more than 3 days for once. For those reasons, I want to apply for the moderator position in my local board as I believe I am the most suited.

Good luck with that request, and be ready to grow old waiting  
Croatian local board had moderator long time ago, than he was removed and theymos asked us to choose new moderator, but that never happened.
We tried to raise this question several times and I think we asked theymos again with PM but he didn't reply anything... I don't know why.

[LTU_btc]

Moderation in local boards seem to be difficult question. There is few local boards which are more active than Greek and don't have their moderator. Croatia or India for example. And I don't know reason behind it. Maybe theymos see tha these boards don't have activity to have dedicated mod and global mod is enough. But IMO, it's better to have dedicated mod who knows that language, even if that board isn't very active. Especially if there is suitable person for that job. Maybe it's question of trust for theymos.

I'm genuinely curious to see how a person who doesn't speak Greek can verify that my report is accurate.

Google Translate is doing it's job quite well nowadays, it's not same terrible thing with nonsense translations as 10 years ago. But offcourse, it can't replace native speaker.

[franky1]

at first i seen this and though oh no blackhat wants to be another achowe wannabe clone moderating with personal bias.
but then i thought maybe a little responsibility might snap blackhat out of his personal prospectives, to think outside the box, outside the social club houses he belongs to. to keep moderation responsibility separate from his personal ideals

maybe if blackhat can moderate without a slant leaning of favouring certain topics over others or users over others due to some social drama he has occupied. he might learn what responsibility is. plus maybe challenge himself to not fall into the social club biases he fell into before.

EG will he be a moderator that deletes posts because someone is just stating the obvious which goes against his personal beliefs, thus retaining confirmation bias by deleting anything that goes against his beliefs. or because he is sticking to what the forum rules say is allowable or not. because the 2 concepts are very different things

i do hope blackhat does not go the achowe route
and instead accepts the challenge to take on some responsibility, which may help him grow and be inspired to see things from a broader landscape.

so because that subcategory is already set to have moderator, yet lacks an active one. maybe give blackhatcoiner a chance and see if he can moderate respectfully rather than with bias.
we might even see a better blackhat come out from the experience

[BlackHatCoiner]

Mods don't have to speak your language in order to moderate your board and remove spam (I guess they use Google translate).

I believe relying on a machine translator isn't better practice than having a native speaker of that language as moderator.

For example, Croatian local board doesn't have own moderators for the last few years ever since Lauda was removed so now we depend on the global mod sorting our reports.

I don't have a firsthand experience with the Croatian board, maybe there is a global moderator who knows Croatian, or maybe it's sufficient for a global moderator to translate using a machine translator for the Croatian board. I'm not 100% sure, I just make my observations, one of which is: if you've found a somewhat established, trustworthy, active forum user who's been accurate on reporting posts elsewhere and who natively speaks the local board's language, then it's more appropriate to have him moderate the board than a global moderator who's more prone to failure.

There must be some moderator who is responsible for your local board, maybe it's Cyrus or someone else.

As far as I know, the only Greek moderator is mitzie.

Moderation in local boards seem to be difficult question. There is few local boards which are more active than Greek and don't have their moderator. Croatia or India for example. And I don't know reason behind it. Maybe theymos see tha these boards don't have activity to have dedicated mod and global mod is enough.

Maybe theymos or a global moderator can enlighten us.

Google Translate is doing it's job quite well nowadays, it's not same terrible thing with nonsense translations as 10 years ago. But offcourse, it can't replace native speaker.

Try translating the posts from the thread I linked, and tell me if you can verify that it's off-topic, zero value, trolling and spamming. I'll wait.

maybe if blackhat can moderate without a slant leaning of favouring certain topics over others or users over others due to some social drama he has occupied.

Rules above personal interests. That is taken for granted.

[Rikafip]

I don't have a firsthand experience with the Croatian board, maybe there is a global moderator who knows Croatian, or maybe it's sufficient for a global moderator to translate using a machine translator for the Croatian board.

Afaik no global mods speaks Croatian and they probably rely on Google translate to moderate ours. Its pretty much the same thing for "Other languages/locations" as all of them, are moderated by Cyrus and i doubt he speaks all those languages there.

I'm not 100% sure, I just make my observations, one of which is: if you've found a somewhat established, trustworthy, active forum user who's been accurate on reporting posts elsewhere and who natively speaks the local board's language, then it's more appropriate to have him moderate the board than a global moderator who's more prone to failure.

I 100% agree with you that it would make more sense to have a native speaker moderating local board than relying on Google translate, but unfortunately we weren't lucky in our request, even though at the time we asked for one we were among the most active local boards and we never even got a reply. I wish you luck though and hopefully you get some answer.

Try translating the posts from the thread I linked, and tell me if you can verify that it's off-topic, zero value, trolling and spamming. I'll wait

Have you reported those spam posts? Imho its worth a try.

[BlackHatCoiner]

Its pretty much the same thing for "Other languages/locations" as all of them, are moderated by Cyrus and i doubt he speaks all those languages there.

And I'm sure there would be more efficient and effective moderation if for each topic there was an established, trustworthy and active user as moderator, who speaks the language better than anyone.

Have you reported those spam posts? Imho its worth a try.

I reported the entire thread yesterday. It's unhandled.

[digaran]

Would you do it for free? I assume you are already a merit source, right? If you are not and your local board also needs a source, again are you willing to do it for free?

Warning this post is a trap, either yes or no answers will get you in trouble.!!!

[BlackHatCoiner]

Would you do it for free?

I'm willing to do it for free, unless I must hold a responsibility that I'm not aware of. If the administrator is interested in me moderating the sub-board, I expect a list of duties that I must fulfill. The answer to this question, while likely free, is dependent on the duties.

I assume you are already a merit source, right?

Yes, I'm already a merit source, but I don't understand how's this related.

[Rikafip]

And I'm sure there would be more efficient and effective moderation if for each topic there was an established, trustworthy and active user as moderator, who speaks the language better than anyone.

Of course it would be more efficient, but since moderators are paid I don't think that's going to happen. With that being said, I think that there's enough active people who would do the job for free like they are doing on many other forums but for that the whole system would have to be changed and each and every child board should have their own moderator (so they can manage the workload) and that kind of change is again not likely to happen.