Sports betting fraud in Brazil 😦

[passwordnow]

I also have a neighbor who was a pro DOTA II player. He and his team were involved in match fixing. They were banned by Valve itself.

May I know who's this player? Did he manage his team to reach division 1 and then be relegated to division 2? I'm just curious to know who is this.

Fraud is also rampant in sports.

It's true that fraud and match-fixing is known in sports and that's why money in sports betting is relatively high. Looking at the amount paid to the players, it's not really that much to think of when they can get higher each contract that they get. But it's like a one-day pay day for them for selling these matches that they do. Whoever is/are behind, just paid them the barely and earned the most.

[cabron]

I wonder to what extent these people who organize this make a profit, because I keep thinking about the following:

there is a soccer game on the 16th for example, team A has odds of @2.00 and team B has odds @2.40, so someone decides to take 1 million dollars to pay all of team A and the coach to lose on purpose and that person would have to bet more than 1 million dollars on team B, but which bookmakers accept bets of more than 1 million dollars?

my point is that to manipulate a game is not something that can be done with little money and whoever does it is taking a lot of risk, I also don't understand these people bet where because in all casinos there is a maximum value to bet and I doubt it will pass 1 million dollars

They will divide the $1M among different people. My guess.
According to the article, the crime group goes up to buy the club or the majority of shares of the club to have control over the decisions. It says the mafia will scout a club that is struggling with financial issues.

A club could mean the sport promotion or the sports federation. Seem like a very big crime group and politicians are probably among them.

[Hispo]

Does any Brazilian national around here know who Brazilian justice usually deals or punished this kind of organized crime inside the country?
I would have guessed that since Football is so important for the country and their culture in general this cases, which hurt their national pride and image, would be taken care of in a serious matter.

On the hand, I do not doubt organized crime syndicates there are indeed powerful as in other countries of Latin America.

[darkangel11]

In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

This answers the question that people often ask when it comes to FIFA and UEFA championships. It doesn't happen in the highest leagues because of many reasons. Players earn too much money there so they aren't willing to risk their careers, too many people watch the games and it's much easier to see foul play when everybody plays high level football. The lower league it is the more fixed matches and it doesn't help if it's a poor country.

[AmoreJaz]

In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

This answers the question that people often ask when it comes to FIFA and UEFA championships. It doesn't happen in the highest leagues because of many reasons. Players earn too much money there so they aren't willing to risk their careers, too many people watch the games and it's much easier to see foul play when everybody plays high level football. The lower league it is the more fixed matches and it doesn't help if it's a poor country.

big leagues won't tolerate this kind of fraud also. it will be the end of the career of the players if they prove such act as true. so yeah, are they going to ruin their whole career with thousand dollars bribe? the whole world is watching so people will know if there is something unusual on their movements. lower leagues have the courage to do this act as maybe, some are thinking that they can end their career anytime just to get a hold of that money, or thinking that they won't be punished anyway.

[livingfree]

The Series B are a good league in Brazil also after the Serie A the main league and I find it surprising that some players were bribed to commit penalties for just 29.000 dollars,I am assuming the pay of the players in this Serie B is not that good if the players agreed to fix things.I have always known that game fixing exists but not in such a big manner in the bigger leagues,for example what I thought to be a league that fixing game would be easy is 7th or 8th division in Denmark and Norway,they have a lot of such divisions and the players there are amateurs.

They wouldn't accept that if they're receiving a hefty amount of money from their salaries. But the fact that they've accepted the bribe to do the result the payor wants, it means that they receive not that much at all.

I think FIFA should start an investigation and make the teams and players who have done this responsible by giving them big penalties like moving the team to the lowest division with 10 years staying there no matter if they win that league.

Much a heavier penalty will stop these players to get involved into such fraudulent activities. Like a penalty of getting a lifetime ban and losing their access in the professional league.

[Davidvictorson]

Fraud is prevalent everywhere. The sports world is no exception. It is very rampant in low leagues where almost nobody pays attention. It is even in this leagues that sports bettors will cash out big time because before the game begins they already know that it is rigged and are confident that the team they place their wager on is going to win in the end. Infact it is a win-win for everyone- the gamblers, the officials, the players, the football teams. Sadly, this destroys core of the league and everything that sports stands for. It is even more damaging to the teams and players involved because they will never be able to perform at top tier clubs.

[rahmad2nd]

Unfortunately the OP didn't include a link as a reference for us to read more. talking about score fixing, player bribes, or whatever. I'm not surprised, especially in much smaller leagues. practices like this, will always exist as long as the federation concerned is also involved. bad system, weak regulation, which in the end will always be used by people who are always interested. either individually or as a group.

However generally, practices like these will always involve multiple parties. especially when it involves betting, as the OP tells in this thread. it seems that in any part of the world, practices like this will always exist but mostly in developing countries. even in my country too, something that smells of fixing is not something foreign to us. and this is the bad side, of the world of sports.

[Fortify]

It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00).

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

Do you have any source material to back up this claim? While I've no doubt it can happen, often it is a very hard charge to prove because these things are often done in hidden deals and it's easy enough to create these situations while looking like genuine play. Frankly I have no issue with people profiting at the expense of bookmakers, but it definitely brings the game into disrepute and is effectively cheating. You can never have a fair and honest game if you are playing with people who are trying to profit in this way. Most teams have thousands, or tens of thousands of adoring fans who wish to see a good game and these cheaters also let down their team mates who are trying to win. Hopefully big penalties, both financial and criminal sentences are handed out.

[Gyfts]

I never understood the angle of sports betting. The odds are not mathematical, they're speculative and subjective. Nearly ever major sports league in the world has had scandals involving rigging with individual players or corrupt officiating that's influenced the outcome of games.

Just makes me wonder though, we have seen some threads about fix match and rigged and they are posting it here, not sure if you guys have seen it. Anyhow, my point is that it could be true that this kind of fix matching has been ongoing for many years already and there could be some insiders who are familiar with it and sharing it here although I can't say that for a fact. And if this coaches and players are investigated and found to be guilty, then appropriate punishment should be dealt with this kind of individuals as it is a shame for the sports who love it.

There are hardly any punishments for these sorts of things. The punishment usually only comes through public pressure anyways. It's not as if these organizations cease to be fraudulent because the higher ups choose just push the liability onto other people and continue their fraud.

[Fatunad]

In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

This answers the question that people often ask when it comes to FIFA and UEFA championships. It doesn't happen in the highest leagues because of many reasons. Players earn too much money there so they aren't willing to risk their careers, too many people watch the games and it's much easier to see foul play when everybody plays high level football. The lower league it is the more fixed matches and it doesn't help if it's a poor country.

big leagues won't tolerate this kind of fraud also. it will be the end of the career of the players if they prove such act as true. so yeah, are they going to ruin their whole career with thousand dollars bribe? the whole world is watching so people will know if there is something unusual on their movements. lower leagues have the courage to do this act as maybe, some are thinking that they can end their career anytime just to get a hold of that money, or thinking that they won't be punished anyway.

This is why it is really that impossible for these things to happen on big leagues or main games that we do know and there's no fool athlete would really be dealing up with such agreement considering that it would really put up their entire career if ever they would really be caught.This is why it would really be no surprise that these things do really happen on smaller ones on which it does have that less attention
on where these kind of motives and set ups could really be possible to happen or to be applied.This is why its not really that something or shocking anymore honestly
when it comes to this kind of situations.

[serjent05]

This is why it is really that impossible for these things to happen on big leagues or main games that we do know and there's no fool athlete would really be dealing up with such agreement considering that it would really put up their entire career if ever they would really be caught.This is why it would really be no surprise that these things do really happen on smaller ones on which it does have that less attention
on where these kind of motives and set ups could really be possible to happen or to be applied.This is why its not really that something or shocking anymore honestly
when it comes to this kind of situations.

There is a slim chance and it is not impossible in the big league.  Probably there had been happening but we are not aware of it because people who are involved in this kind of fraud are professionals and even if the league had known it, they just keep it a secret and do verification to judgment secretly not to affect the reputation of the league.

I believe if this kind of fraud is rampant in a smaller league, there is also a big chance that it is also happening in the major and big league.

[chaser15]

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

These people just wasted their long-term opportunities to earn money in their careers. Can't believe they exchanged their reputation and career over quick fraud money. For sure, these athletes will face a lifetime ban and aside from that will face penalties in accordance with the law.

It might be easier earn to earn money by involving in the such act but the consequences are big if got caught. Aside from that, what a nerve they have to support their family coming from fraudulent money.

Lots of people want to become athletes but never get the opportunity to become one and yet there are pathetic athletes who are throwing away their build status just because of easy money without even thinking twice.

[Sandra_hakeem]

I believe this isn't your original thought and it's very improper when you create threads from scraps of people's information in here without a source link; you have actually broken a rule and you might lose your account for this reasons _{I believe you know this things already}
I'll advice that you fixup the link and make a proper citation to this post.
Well, the level of fraudulence in Brazil is appalling; but that ofcourse isn't happening in a major league cus they won't survive the next moment to continue Thier mischievous act. I'm wondering if they're not being paid well in that division so they need some extra funds from the public??

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

[coin-investor]

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Hey, OP, as long as you've been on the forum, you should know better than to include a link to the news item. I guess the news is in Portuguese? I've searched and I don't see anything about it but I did find this which is relevant to the general match fixing problem:

I hope OP will edit the thread and include the link where he gets that information, the absence of the article or link will treat the thread as speculation, and it's unfair to the football organization of Brazil that a discussion like this exists which no article to back it up, any organization doesn't want to be put in the bad light especially if the case is game fixing.
All sports organization owed their existence to the paying fans and supporters if they lose their trust they will lose sponsorships and the organization will crumble, so they have to be quick to investigate and ban people who are involved to game fixing.

[DoublerHunter]

Fraud is prevalent everywhere. The sports world is no exception. It is very rampant in low leagues where almost nobody pays attention. It is even in this leagues that sports bettors will cash out big time because before the game begins they already know that it is rigged and are confident that the team they place their wager on is going to win in the end. Infact it is a win-win for everyone- the gamblers, the officials, the players, the football teams. Sadly, this destroys core of the league and everything that sports stands for. It is even more damaging to the teams and players involved because they will never be able to perform at top tier clubs.

^It is everywhere, it seems like corruption.
Fixed match has been there for a long time and no one will fear it because there is no heavy penalty for this which is it should be a must.
But that is definitely right, if this becomes rampant for now, in the future this will destroy all kinds of sports games and no one will believe in them since people know already that it is a fixed match and there is already a result. The sports gambling business will probably down because people always thought that every match was a scripted and fixed game.

[Fatunad]

This is why it is really that impossible for these things to happen on big leagues or main games that we do know and there's no fool athlete would really be dealing up with such agreement considering that it would really put up their entire career if ever they would really be caught.This is why it would really be no surprise that these things do really happen on smaller ones on which it does have that less attention
on where these kind of motives and set ups could really be possible to happen or to be applied.This is why its not really that something or shocking anymore honestly
when it comes to this kind of situations.

There is a slim chance and it is not impossible in the big league.  Probably there had been happening but we are not aware of it because people who are involved in this kind of fraud are professionals and even if the league had known it, they just keep it a secret and do verification to judgment secretly not to affect the reputation of the league.

I believe if this kind of fraud is rampant in a smaller league, there is also a big chance that it is also happening in the major and big league.

We dont know but for sure there is but you are right which we cant really tell on when it is happening because they arent that dumb to make it really that obvious.This is why we cant really remove the possibilities
considering that these kind of rigged plays could really happen.Its not something new anymore and its true that this is mostly happening on smaller leagues which not that much would really be watching.
This is why i dont really like to make out some bets on smaller league due to this kind of tendency and also its not really that something entertaining on watching them
honestly.

[Vaskiy]

After a long coming across some incident where the team players are being bribed for money making out of match fixing. The players involved have done big mistake money. Now he had ruined his football career. Also the money involved is really big. Also Brazil being a football nation this will surely be disappointment among the football fans.

[harizen]

In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

I was honestly surprised that something like that, which can consider "big", does have a case like that.

We all know that football is a highly recognized sport in Brazil that's why the gambling market for that sport is really huge. Because of that, it was being targeted by those who want to do some sh*t in sports betting.

I don't understand why players accept the bribe. They are already paid well for the long-term for just being a player in that big league.

[goldkingcoiner]

It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00).

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

In third world countries, the mafia and other corrupt people, especially those sitting in the government, pretending to be politicians who work for the people, are always finding new ways to use gambling as a way to either launder money or scam money. If the governments keep doing nothing then this will not change any time soon. And people will lose their money to these crooks.

And the government won't change because they too, are being bribed by the criminals to look the other way while they steal from the people.