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February 17, 2023, 12:02:58 AM
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In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

I was honestly surprised that something like that, which can consider "big", does have a case like that.

We all know that football is a highly recognized sport in Brazil that's why the gambling market for that sport is really huge. Because of that, it was being targeted by those who want to do some sh*t in sports betting.

I don't understand why players accept the bribe. They are already paid well for the long-term for just being a player in that big league.

It could be because the money given for the bribe is greater than their salary. Some players who do have a small salary and poor performance will become targets for bribes. moreover they are still playing in the first team, so it would be more appropriate to serve as the main target of bribes.
It's no wonder there are still bribes like this in local leagues. There are many sports where bribes take place, not just football betting.
Well-known bribery cases in the sports world include the FIFA scandal in 2015, in which high-ranking FIFA officials were suspected of accepting bribes from certain parties, as well as the doping scandal involving well-known athletes such as Lance Armstrong and Maria Sharapova.
https://www.britannica.com/event/2015-FIFA-corruption-scandal
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February 17, 2023, 12:57:16 AM
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It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00). Shocked

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

In third world countries, the mafia and other corrupt people, especially those sitting in the government, pretending to be politicians who work for the people, are always finding new ways to use gambling as a way to either launder money or scam money. If the governments keep doing nothing then this will not change any time soon. And people will lose their money to these crooks.

And the government won't change because they too, are being bribed by the criminals to look the other way while they steal from the people.

Another reason to stick to provably fair games, I guess.
It is kind of sad because there are people who are very passionate with sport betting and they have to deal with this nasty reality.

I wonder how common this practices are in other countries like France or the United Kingdom in comparison to Brazil or Argentina, since I would expect corruption not to be as blatant in Western Europe. Politics messing with people's passions and entertainment...

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February 17, 2023, 01:18:47 AM
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It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00). Shocked

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

In third world countries, the mafia and other corrupt people, especially those sitting in the government, pretending to be politicians who work for the people, are always finding new ways to use gambling as a way to either launder money or scam money. If the governments keep doing nothing then this will not change any time soon. And people will lose their money to these crooks.

And the government won't change because they too, are being bribed by the criminals to look the other way while they steal from the people.

Another reason to stick to provably fair games, I guess.
It is kind of sad because there are people who are very passionate with sport betting and they have to deal with this nasty reality.

I wonder how common this practices are in other countries like France or the United Kingdom in comparison to Brazil or Argentina, since I would expect corruption not to be as blatant in Western Europe. Politics messing with people's passions and entertainment...
Brazil have got the largest gambling market in Latin America. The same is being used by the frauds to make good money bribing the players. This is being well organised and are operating as gangs. Lawmakers need to be very careful and they should act fast and assure of such incidents won't happen anymore. In reality the politicians aren't much concerned about it. As mentioned this will truly affect the sporting industry as the audience watch with the mind, is it real game or fixed one.
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February 17, 2023, 01:23:03 AM
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Hey, OP, as long as you've been on the forum, you should know better than to include a link to the news item. I guess the news is in Portuguese? I've searched and I don't see anything about it but I did find this which is relevant to the general match fixing problem

I'm sorry, my intention was to post the link, but I ended up forgetting when I finished writing the post with my arguments about this news.

Better late than never... follow the reference (in Portuguese): https://www.metropoles.com/brasil/apostadores-teriam-lucro-de-r-2-milhoes-com-fraude-em-jogo-da-serie-b

Brazil have got the largest gambling market in Latin America. The same is being used by the frauds to make good money bribing the players. This is being well organised and are operating as gangs. Lawmakers need to be very careful and they should act fast and assure of such incidents won't happen anymore. In reality the politicians aren't much concerned about it. As mentioned this will truly affect the sporting industry as the audience watch with the mind, is it real game or fixed one.

I believe that... as gambling is prohibited in Brazil, politicians are not bothering too much about curbing this type of crime with the intention of making bets safer.

In fact they are using news like this to tell the population that gambling is something very risky, they are saying that it is a "criminal" thing and that nobody should spend their money on it.

Unfortunately, I think this political mentality around gambling will take time to change in Brazil

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February 17, 2023, 02:38:08 AM
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I'm kind of intrigued. Who is this neighbors of yours that is a pro DOTA 2 player?
Solo was also accused of match fixing as he placed a bet against his own team, Virtus Pro. Remember the 322 meme? It was originally pertaining to his act.

I won't drop any name, but suffice it to say that he's a player of Team Smart Omega or popularly known as Omega ESports. They were playing against Execration in the SEA DOTA Pro Circuit (DPC) 2021-2022. It was suspected that Omega ESports was throwing the game. Later on, after investigation, it was confirmed that they were involved in a match-fixing agreement. It was pretty obvious in the game. They were eventually banned from all Valve-sponsored events.

This is off-topic already, but the point is fraud in sports happen not just in the local, regional, and national levels; it happens even in the international level.

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February 17, 2023, 08:50:47 AM
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It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00). Shocked

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

In third world countries, the mafia and other corrupt people, especially those sitting in the government, pretending to be politicians who work for the people, are always finding new ways to use gambling as a way to either launder money or scam money. If the governments keep doing nothing then this will not change any time soon. And people will lose their money to these crooks.

And the government won't change because they too, are being bribed by the criminals to look the other way while they steal from the people.
Maybe they can easily find people they can bribe to help them get what they want. Money laundering also involves people who sit in the government and they can use any means so that clean and honest officials cannot detect their activities. It takes a lot of effort from government members to clean up the institution so that there are no frauds in all fields. And I still believe there are honest and clean officials in government who have the will to clean up money laundering, bribery or other illegal things, even though it takes time to clean them up.

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February 17, 2023, 09:47:56 AM
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not only in brazil, many other countries do it like that, for example fixing scores in matches, therefore I have never been interested in betting on the minor leagues because there is potentially a lot of cheating there, that's why betting on the big leagues is safer even though sometimes I often see clubs big lose against small club i always thought there was a game in it, but i thought maybe it was just bad luck, lol
or better bet in Pvp , I mean in actual game and betting against another player as this is what I love doing in regards to sports betting with minor league involvement.

but in online ? or in something like what posted here? lol I hate to tell but there are so much risk to be taken.

Like here in my place there are several league that happening in sports complex so we go there and put our bets.

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February 17, 2023, 10:47:59 AM
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Damn, I reckon players would really only undergo such frauds would be if their team somehow doesn't pay them enough or the team itself is bonkers and somehow want to make a quick buck (or politics, still the same anyway imo). Still can't imagine it really, my environment is rather far from these types of scenarios or occurrences.


I believe that... as gambling is prohibited in Brazil, politicians are not bothering too much about curbing this type of crime with the intention of making bets safer.

In fact they are using news like this to tell the population that gambling is something very risky, they are saying that it is a "criminal" thing and that nobody should spend their money on it.

Unfortunately, I think this political mentality around gambling will take time to change in Brazil
Isn't that kind of contradictory? I mean it's not like gambling for sports is ever gonna disappear, there are other countries out there that gamble with sports so if they just leave it, the teams that still play inside their tournaments can and will still engage in such activities (selling the game).

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February 17, 2023, 12:06:28 PM
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And there has already been one person arrested, he is a businessman, he is suspected of having made the bets and also of having contacted the players and made the advance payment of a part of the payment.

Now get ready for a curious news story about how they caught this person.

There were supposed to be three penalties in three matches, but in the third match there was no penalty and the person lost his bet.
This third match was for a player from the Vila Nova team to take the penalty, and since he didn't do it, the person called the president of the team himself to help him to collect the money from the player.
Important detail, the president had no relation with this fraud, and the president is a police major.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

It's ridiculous, but at least the person got caught.

Source of this information: https://bnldata.com.br/empresario-preso-em-sp-por-fraudes-era-quem-fazia-apostas-e-intermediava-contatos-com-jogadores-diz-mp/

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Sports betting fraud, I would say is as old as man's existence. Is it closely related to greed. It kills the game of soccer especially in the not-so-popular leagues where it is frequently committed.
True soccer fans with keen observation and experience in the sport know that most of the fouls committed during the game do not just happen. It is premeditated. In our local league some time ago, a leaked audio record revealed that a player who plays the defence was received a huge amount of money to cause penalty against his own team during the tournament.
And he actually did, and his team lost in the game. Sports betting fraud happens anywhere and everywhere there the game occur. And as we know it requires a group of people to execute it. Most players are gamblers even some coaches and referees. So, fraud in sport betting is inevitable.

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February 17, 2023, 01:03:59 PM
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It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00). Shocked

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.
This type of bribery fraud in betting on sports matches often occurs anywhere, especially if in sports betting there are several rich people who come in to bet, it is easier to manipulate a match.
Maybe not only rich bettors who benefit, but both teams that compete will also benefit because one team wins and the team that loses gets paid from the results of the agreement with the bettor.
Maybe this kind of thing often happens in several sports matches in certain leagues and happens very often.

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February 17, 2023, 01:20:15 PM
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such scams in sports betting are common in several countries and even in national matches there are sometimes such scams and bribe some players to lose.
although I have often seen this kind of fraud, after reading this thread I was wondering why such fraud still occurs frequently and sometimes occurs in national matches.

we as gamblers may feel disadvantaged by the player's bribery. what we should have won but lost, that's really sad.
and usually such scams are frequent in live sports betting.

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Those players are just playing for money. Most of those powerful and rich people want to somehow control the game or game fixing it so that they will win their bet. It was really sad that athletes or players can be paid money just to do those acts or make their game lose, as for them, money matters the most. This really can affect the image of sports in Brazil for sure, as it was involved in the fraud, and sports bettors in that country will more likely not bet in those games.
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We know how does sports betting get attractive to people because of the satisfaction it can give during the game the same time supporting their favourite team. also, there's a significant numbers of names involved with this game too,. Hence, some of them make a bet,, and that causes the same time having transactions under the table with the management which is having the match-fixing this is very common in different sports that they know there's a huge bet and wins with this so they can quickly turn around the game sometimes it just the mistake of the players reason why they throw the game.

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I'm kind of intrigued. Who is this neighbors of yours that is a pro DOTA 2 player?
Solo was also accused of match fixing as he placed a bet against his own team, Virtus Pro. Remember the 322 meme? It was originally pertaining to his act.

I won't drop any name, but suffice it to say that he's a player of Team Smart Omega or popularly known as Omega ESports. They were playing against Execration in the SEA DOTA Pro Circuit (DPC) 2021-2022. It was suspected that Omega ESports was throwing the game. Later on, after investigation, it was confirmed that they were involved in a match-fixing agreement. It was pretty obvious in the game. They were eventually banned from all Valve-sponsored events.

This is off-topic already, but the point is fraud in sports happen not just in the local, regional, and national levels; it happens even in the international level.
It happens in DOTA as well? they did that as well in mobile legends. Hmm I think this team has a serious problem that needed to take an action, thought it may look like they are just doing that for fun but it happen so many times, how can their supporters trust their credibility and integrity if they are okay with matchmaking and selling some match. For me it will be considered as fraud as well.
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February 17, 2023, 02:34:15 PM
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This is also known as match fixing if I understand the OP clear enough, I am not surprised by the way, this is something that have existed for as long as gambling and betting itself, I am really not happy to say that such problems as this will never find a long lasting solution, there can never be a time when matching rigging, as well as fixing would be completely eradicated from our system, we can only try to manage it, that is reduce it, its something that have been since of old, and will continue even unto the unforeseen future.
This is not something peculiar to brazil alone, it is present in every country.

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February 17, 2023, 03:17:30 PM
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With sports betting being a very big business now, match fixing was always going to drag in these smaller leagues as players are poorly paid, teams lack the financial resources to make them better , and the leagues are certainly given less attention which make them the perfect candidate to this fraudulent business.

And those amounts they are paid for a division 2, division 3 tier team was always going to lure plays to be the pawns in this betting syndicate, and only solution is to pay players better otherwise this won't stop anytime soon.

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February 17, 2023, 03:19:20 PM
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In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.
I believe a scandal like this was just a matter of time, taking the history of the country with previous corruption schemes, recent skyrocket of sports betting platforms' popularity locally, and a fertile niche to execute a profitable scam, like the Serie B, since attention from public and media is mostly focused in Serie A.

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February 17, 2023, 08:05:03 PM
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This is also known as match fixing if I understand the OP clear enough, I am not surprised by the way, this is something that have existed for as long as gambling and betting itself, I am really not happy to say that such problems as this will never find a long lasting solution, there can never be a time when matching rigging, as well as fixing would be completely eradicated from our system, we can only try to manage it, that is reduce it, its something that have been since of old, and will continue even unto the unforeseen future.
This is not something peculiar to brazil alone, it is present in every country.

Yes, it was clear that this was a match fixing. even though they have unique ways that are also different, basically in essence all of them aim to rig the results of a match. referring to the source of the link that the OP shared, the actor of the main culprit has been arrested. in this case, I don't really understand how the betting fraud works and the mechanism they run.

practices like these, however, are nothing new to us. and as you said, this is not something that only happens in Brazil, but it can happen in many countries, especially developing countries. there are various ways and modes, in match fixing practices. but what is certain, practices like this can occur because of a bad system and weak regulations, so that it can be exploited by elements or parties who are not responsible.

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February 17, 2023, 08:23:34 PM
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If it's possible for this kind of competition for fraud to occur, how much more to much smaller competitions. There are local and regional competitions everywhere. Some games must be rigged. Some detected, some not.

Here, there was also a national basketball competition where a team was obviously throwing the game. It was Manny Pacquiao himself who filed the case against those who were involved in the fixing.

I also have a neighbor who was a pro DOTA II player. He and his team were involved in match fixing. They were banned by Valve itself.

Fraud is also rampant in sports.
Bribing and game fixing is pretty common on small-scale tournaments and local games. I've heard about a whole basketball team being investigated because of how lame they played comparing to their previous ones, I believe this was in 2019 or so. Since these games are low-stakes and would probably not fill seats in the stadium, as an athlete accepting bribes and fixing games is your best bet at earning quick bucks, of course at the expense of the integrity of the game that you devoted your whole life to. Although there are multiple parameters set now that are aimed at reducing if not outright preventing game fixing and sports fraud, as you have said, there's still a huge number that flies off the radar undetected.

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