Sports betting fraud in Brazil 😦

[nakamura12]

Always to those people who are sitting on the top of the chain would be always have the power and the rights on doing on whatever they do want considering that they do have the power and the finances then
everything could really be that possible and its not really a shocking thing after all.

This is why its not really something that new when it comes on rigging up games and any fraudulent activities made up in behind.It is really just that sad specially into those people who
do have make out bets and overall ethicality and general essence of sport which it had been destroyed out due to this one.

I think some people wanted to win when they bet and to have a higher chance of winning and the person or people who bet opposite will surely lose and I think that the organizer of the game will surely gain profit because of it. People like us who are not rich or have the ability to those things. Not really sure if this is really happening but I think they also sell it like they get paid and the person who pay will be informed that the game or match is fixed and let's say Team A will win and Team B will lose the match against Team A but in a way where it won't be obvious that they intentionally lose the game. Let mw know guys if this really happen. I am only assuming that it is possible since I think it is possible to make the game a fixed matches hence why it is being discussed.

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[348Judah]

This and God knows how many matches get fixed but pass through the public eyes without notice. Where there is money involved there is always chance for fraud.

This might be correct especially if you are doing this on a corrupt country, and probably some government official are making money here as well.
Fraud is everywhere, hard to tell if the game is fixed or not because the players can also be part of it. Sports betting are easy to fraud, if there's a huge money in the table. The mafia knows where to make money and with that, Brazil sports might be one of their favorite spot to do this. You're lucky if you are able to get a signal for a fixed matches, its not easy to have that signal though and no guarantee for if its true or not.

Match fixing or sports betting fraud is a big crime and unfortunately, the real beneficiaries for these are the national players and maybe the government is also involved in fraud of such a big level.

I will try to give you an example and you will see how big this game is. Let's suppose a Strong Team has a match with a very weak team and it is certain that a strong team will win. Almost 90% will bet on the strong team. Now the Strong team decided to fix the match, lose it, and before the match, they place a million dollars bet on the weak team (the odds are also high for weak teams).

The strong team loses the match, lose the match winning money but won 100 times more in the bet. The government can also involve in this if they decide to inject even more capital in this fixed match bet.

We cannot actually predict who is under some of these attacks since all we canbsee is only on what they presented on us, this may not be applicable to only Brazil alone but any country can as well ve involved, some sport were believe to be fixed though they will make it appears that it's live, if we look at the role being played by Brazil in participating in all manners of sports, we can see how active they have being but things like this aren't common that the government may be involved in setting up a game just to defraud it citizens or gamblers, but individuals does.

[blockman]

Match fixing or sports betting fraud is a big crime and unfortunately, the real beneficiaries for these are the national players and maybe the government is also involved in fraud of such a big level.

The real beneficiaries are the ones behind this match-fixing and it doesn't usually start with the players but with those big gamblers behind them.
The players are being used and gets paid for their participation but it isn't big compared to what these gamblers are getting from these fixed matches.
As for the government, if there's a government that's involved in match-fixing then that's truly a corrupt administration.

[Mr.right85]

There is nothing out of the ordinary about this. It's nor.al for these developing leagues or series to have some fraudulent practices such as match fixing within therr organisation and it makes me wonder of the rules in football doesn't apply, if they've got no governing body to put these things in check because, some are way too obvious.

I saw a clip on YouTube some years ago and the player practically faced the corner spot or was it the throwing and sent the ball flying. I felt mocked because it was an African league but these fixing or manipulations are not any good. It makes people lose trust in the process.

[bitbollo]

sadly it's still the same old problem.
since it is possible to bet even on minor leagues it is easier to observe these frouds.

in Italy there was recently a scandal involving fourth division teams (!) just to give an idea of how widespread the problem is...

[TheGreatPython]

If it's possible for this kind of competition for fraud to occur, how much more to much smaller competitions. There are local and regional competitions everywhere. Some games must be rigged. Some detected, some not.

Here, there was also a national basketball competition where a team was obviously throwing the game. It was Manny Pacquiao himself who filed the case against those who were involved in the fixing.

I also have a neighbor who was a pro DOTA II player. He and his team were involved in match fixing. They were banned by Valve itself.

Fraud is also rampant in sports.

Cheating in e-sports events and tournaments have been pretty high in the years 2020-2022 or maybe even in 2023, since I didn't hear any news about it so far so I didn't include it. People cheat in all sorts of ways, some using hack files in their systems and some misusing bugs and glitches to gain more exposure or advantages within a game.

Among all, fixing a match sounds to be the easiest way to me for an e-sports player since there is nothing else to make it suspicious unless a team or a player starts playing noticeably bad all of a sudden compared to their game quality from before. Even if things are investigated, one can easily say that it's just a game and anything can happen.

[KTChampions]

$28,000 seems like a tempting amount to just score a penalty in a game at a certain time, so I'm not surprised that athletes have been able to get involved. I am surprised by another - is the market for betting on penalties at certain times so large that the bets that allow fraudsters to earn hundreds of thousands of dollars have long gone unnoticed? It seems to me that the very first big bet (even if it was split into many small ones) would have attracted attention.

^ It is possible that there are thousands of dollars in unnoticed big wins from fraudsters, I can't imagine how big this amount is but one thing that I know, this is a huge amount that is easy to spot. I also have this thought, what is the penalty for the athletes if someone caught them the same issue? It should be memorable penalties so that they will not do it again or those athletes planning the same way will be afraid because of the possible penalties. Hopefully, our betting organizers will have a solution for this, it will harm their institution if this will continue.

I do not think that significant amounts can go unnoticed - statistically, any fluctuations are very visible, and in such a not very popular market as a penalty, any hundred thousand dollars of bias in one of the parties clearly indicates that this is a fixed game.
As for the penalties, they should be very severe - suspension from games for several years, but usually this does not happen, since it is one thing to statistically detect fraud and another thing to legally prove it.

[Accardo]

Bet has always been one of the aim of any competition, almost every sportsman is involved in the act. The top officials in football, stake bets, and influential people in the governing bodies of the sports can manipulate the outcome of a game because of greed and to secure wealth. A person that stakes 1 million dollar for a single game would by any means try to win the game. Sometimes, I doubt the VAR technology, these days a lot of goals are being cancelled, which kills the joy of watching football. Quite true, it's always an offside, but before the VAR was initiated not all of these were seen, then, in the past, people enjoyed watching football. For instance, the PSG and Bayern munich goal scored by Mbappe that was later cancelled, that would have been considered a goal without the VAR as it was unnoticed, so these techs can be used to rig games and it can't be questioned. On the other side, these players are professionals and they've mastered the way football works, they can decide to kick a ball on the goal bar or pole, spectators would consider it a mistake, but the player purposefully kicked the ball on the pole. Hence, it will be difficult not to experience this in football or other games, the gambling niche controls a huge aspect of sports. And the bodies who run the gambling companies are the underworld family bosses, so we should expect the unexpected.

[TimeTeller]

Match fixing or sports betting fraud is a big crime and unfortunately, the real beneficiaries for these are the national players and maybe the government is also involved in fraud of such a big level.

The real beneficiaries are the ones behind this match-fixing and it doesn't usually start with the players but with those big gamblers behind them.
The players are being used and gets paid for their participation but it isn't big compared to what these gamblers are getting from these fixed matches.
As for the government, if there's a government that's involved in match-fixing then that's truly a corrupt administration.

You can't eradicate this problem if bigwigs are the ones involved on this activity.
And definitely, not only in Brazil but in other countries as well, but it will be in minor leagues.
Hard to manipulate a game without controversy if they play this game in major leagues.
This is why most fixed games can be observed in small leagues where these bigwigs can put a good amount of money.
I can say, this gambling fraud won't stop so long there are big gamblers who want to earn huge profits along with athletes who can be bribed.

[QueenVera]

We've heard and seen some similar cases of match fixing but this very one caught my attention because it's a large competition and if such a competition can be rigged then, how much more are the hopes of smaller teams and competition?

Just as other users have said and most of this match fixing are done in developing countries by some group of very influential and wealth persons because rigging and fixing of matches can mostly be done by people who have what it take to buy the minds of people and make some good and vuge returns in return.

[n0ne]

We've heard and seen some similar cases of match fixing but this very one caught my attention because it's a large competition and if such a competition can be rigged then, how much more are the hopes of smaller teams and competition?

Just as other users have said and most of this match fixing are done in developing countries by some group of very influential and wealth persons because rigging and fixing of matches can mostly be done by people who have what it take to buy the minds of people and make some good and vuge returns in return.

Rather than developing countries, these kind of incidents were common in the countries where specific sports is popular. Think about Brazil, automatically everyone remember football when the name Brazil is found somewhere. Such kind of fraud happening in those countries could destroy the real spirit over the sports. What is being done by these frauds were a destruction to the future generation.

[irhact]

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

The money involved shouldn't be surprising because football is very big over there in Brazil, contradicting to what FIFA ranking is, I think Brazil are the best footballing nation in the world and since match fixing is a very big problem in other part of the world that has less footballing heritage, I didn't expect Brazil to be any less, I'm just glad they were caught as this is a good warning to others wanting to go in this same path.

Due to reports like these, I'm of the opinion that the less championship competition to be removed as so many fraud are ongoing over there. Casino shouldn't put games been played there as an option to bet because so many match fixing can be organized without been notified unlike the profession competitions.

[Jawhead999]

Due to reports like these, I'm of the opinion that the less championship competition to be removed as so many fraud are ongoing over there. Casino shouldn't put games been played there as an option to bet because so many match fixing can be organized without been notified unlike the profession competitions.

If there's huge demand and cash flow around the league, any bookies will add that leagues because they can earn more money and if it's found the match was fixed, the casino can easily to void every bettors who bet in that's matches. This is the reason why to cash out your winnings, it's take few hours or days, to make sure the matches were not fixed and the casino wouldn't rekt.

[slapper]

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second-largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

The money involved shouldn't be surprising because football is very big over there in Brazil, contradicting to what FIFA ranking is, I think Brazil are the best footballing nation in the world and since match fixing is a very big problem in other part of the world that has less footballing heritage, I didn't expect Brazil to be any less, I'm just glad they were caught as this is a good warning to others wanting to go in this same path.

Due to reports like these, I'm of the opinion that the less championship competition to be removed as so many fraud are ongoing over there. Casino shouldn't put games been played there as an option to bet because so many match fixing can be organized without been notified unlike the profession competitions.

It's heartbreaking to see match-fixing stain any sport, especially football, the world's favorite. Brazil's unsportsmanlike behavior is disgusting. It's fantastic that those cheaters were caught, but there are still many more out there. Match-fixing is complex and requires many solutions. Should we eliminate championship competitions or investigate other options? Gambling dens—nevermind! To ensure their games aren't tainted, they should step up and check. It's complicated, but we must keep attentive and protect the game's honor. As for me, I just can't help but wonder what other skeletons might come tumbling out of the closet.

[Die_empty]

It is estimated that the bettors would have profited approximately R$ 2 million (~US$ 383,130.00).

The fraud involved bribes for players, and among the main actions, it was necessary for the player to commit penalties in the first half of the games that were played. Each player received R$ 150,000 per bet for this act (~U$ 28,734.00).

In fact, this makes it much easier to earn money from sports betting.

Unfortunately these are situations that occur in several countries, but the amount of money involved always calls our attention.
In these cases, bets were placed on the competitions that we call "Series B", which is the second largest football championship in Brazil, in which the best classifieds guarantee a place for the main championship in the following year.

Poverty and greed is the main driver of this match-fixing scandal in Brazil. 28,000 dollars is a whole lot of money in Brazil. Some of these players are not well paid making them live in abject poverty. So they cannot resist this opportunity to make this huge sum of money even if it might affect their football career negatively or give them a jail term.

Some of them are not just content with the money they earn. They have this strong desire to live above their means. Therefore, they tend to grab this illegal opportunity to make extra cash. But it is also important to state that these fraudulent activities have the potency of killing the beautiful game of football.

[Viscore]

Match fixing is an issue mainly in developing countries. Most of it is organised by mafia that also involves in drug trade, illegal weapon trade etc. This type of things never get old. Its very hard to avoid match fixing if your country permits completely legal sports betting options. I don't call for them making it illegal but sometimes its impossible to detect. I am pretty sure this match fixing issue happened in Brazil is only visible side of "iceberg". Noone knows what happens at other side, in deep.

Match fixing is obviously has not gone up to these days, and it becomes even more rampant especially that sportsbetting gained high demand for most of the gamblers. The bad thing is those rigged games seem even more legal than those non-rigged games. Worst thing is it leaves serious implication for sports at all levels. And I believe it’s not only Brazil that has been involved in sportsbetting fraud but also Australia, China and Spain as they have been investigated too concerning match fixing issues.

[temple]

$28,000 seems like a tempting amount to just score a penalty in a game at a certain time, so I'm not surprised that athletes have been able to get involved. I am surprised by another - is the market for betting on penalties at certain times so large that the bets that allow fraudsters to earn hundreds of thousands of dollars have long gone unnoticed? It seems to me that the very first big bet (even if it was split into many small ones) would have attracted attention.

^ It is possible that there are thousands of dollars in unnoticed big wins from fraudsters, I can't imagine how big this amount is but one thing that I know, this is a huge amount that is easy to spot. I also have this thought, what is the penalty for the athletes if someone caught them the same issue? It should be memorable penalties so that they will not do it again or those athletes planning the same way will be afraid because of the possible penalties. Hopefully, our betting organizers will have a solution for this, it will harm their institution if this will continue.

I do not think that significant amounts can go unnoticed - statistically, any fluctuations are very visible, and in such a not very popular market as a penalty, any hundred thousand dollars of bias in one of the parties clearly indicates that this is a fixed game.
As for the penalties, they should be very severe - suspension from games for several years, but usually this does not happen, since it is one thing to statistically detect fraud and another thing to legally prove it.

I think that I read some articles a while ago where sports betting companies have announced an extensive initiative to build a co-owned data base that identifies cross platform betting scams and other statistical outliers. To make it really worth it scammers also know that they can get into trouble or that their money gets frozen. Due to this database it is also not easily possible to spread smaller amounts over various providers.

What you mentioned about detecting fraud and legally prove it, that's probably the biggest issue. But providers know that scammers won't sue themselves if their money gets frozen. I doubt that that problem will ever get eliminated. You will always find someone to participate in a scam, especially in sports and leagues where salaries are not that high.

[KTChampions]

I do not think that significant amounts can go unnoticed - statistically, any fluctuations are very visible, and in such a not very popular market as a penalty, any hundred thousand dollars of bias in one of the parties clearly indicates that this is a fixed game.
As for the penalties, they should be very severe - suspension from games for several years, but usually this does not happen, since it is one thing to statistically detect fraud and another thing to legally prove it.

I think that I read some articles a while ago where sports betting companies have announced an extensive initiative to build a co-owned data base that identifies cross platform betting scams and other statistical outliers. To make it really worth it scammers also know that they can get into trouble or that their money gets frozen. Due to this database it is also not easily possible to spread smaller amounts over various providers.

What you mentioned about detecting fraud and legally prove it, that's probably the biggest issue. But providers know that scammers won't sue themselves if their money gets frozen. I doubt that that problem will ever get eliminated. You will always find someone to participate in a scam, especially in sports and leagues where salaries are not that high.

Strange as it may seem, but no, scammers will easily sue (and win) if the bookmaker simply freezes their money. Therefore, when bookmakers detect fraud, they do not freeze money, do not go to the police (except in extreme cases), but simply return bets on a suspicious event with a coefficient of 1 (just a return of the bet). For them, it is much easier than doing investigations, courts, etc. while scammers immediately fall into a huge minus (since the organization of fixed games obviously costs a lot of money).

[blockman]

The real beneficiaries are the ones behind this match-fixing and it doesn't usually start with the players but with those big gamblers behind them.
The players are being used and gets paid for their participation but it isn't big compared to what these gamblers are getting from these fixed matches.
As for the government, if there's a government that's involved in match-fixing then that's truly a corrupt administration.

You can't eradicate this problem if bigwigs are the ones involved on this activity.
And definitely, not only in Brazil but in other countries as well, but it will be in minor leagues.
Hard to manipulate a game without controversy if they play this game in major leagues.
This is why most fixed games can be observed in small leagues where these bigwigs can put a good amount of money.
I can say, this gambling fraud won't stop so long there are big gamblers who want to earn huge profits along with athletes who can be bribed.

Yeah, this still sadly happens in some other countries and they're capitalizing and abusing it with the smaller leagues. That's the sad reality that this is hard to be gone.
As long as these people who are behind these match fixing sees some opportunities in any sport that they can make a fixed match, this will go on and it's gonna be hard to stop it even with the authorities.

[temple]

I do not think that significant amounts can go unnoticed - statistically, any fluctuations are very visible, and in such a not very popular market as a penalty, any hundred thousand dollars of bias in one of the parties clearly indicates that this is a fixed game.
As for the penalties, they should be very severe - suspension from games for several years, but usually this does not happen, since it is one thing to statistically detect fraud and another thing to legally prove it.

I think that I read some articles a while ago where sports betting companies have announced an extensive initiative to build a co-owned data base that identifies cross platform betting scams and other statistical outliers. To make it really worth it scammers also know that they can get into trouble or that their money gets frozen. Due to this database it is also not easily possible to spread smaller amounts over various providers.

What you mentioned about detecting fraud and legally prove it, that's probably the biggest issue. But providers know that scammers won't sue themselves if their money gets frozen. I doubt that that problem will ever get eliminated. You will always find someone to participate in a scam, especially in sports and leagues where salaries are not that high.

Strange as it may seem, but no, scammers will easily sue (and win) if the bookmaker simply freezes their money. Therefore, when bookmakers detect fraud, they do not freeze money, do not go to the police (except in extreme cases), but simply return bets on a suspicious event with a coefficient of 1 (just a return of the bet). For them, it is much easier than doing investigations, courts, etc. while scammers immediately fall into a huge minus (since the organization of fixed games obviously costs a lot of money).

That's quite surprising. I can't verify now whether it is true what you say, but I just assume it is as you probably quite a bit more about gambling than me. It it does make sense what you say when professional scammers are involved in getting account frozen. They will have a bullet proof set up I assume to exactly counter such an action from a bookmaker.

But this reminds me of insurance companies to have huge departments that deal day in and day out with hypothetical accidents and even conduct scientific research on whether or not a certain could in practice have happened the way a claimant describes it. As much as insurance fraud is a thing, I wonder whether it would make sense for bookmakers to also build an alliance and create a department that collects data and investigates suspicious causes around the clock. Over time that database could become valuable. Fraudsters will get family members involved and friends and then strangers who get also bribed if they try to get away and not show up in a database for suspects. But over time the fraudsters' alternatives might also decrease.

Since it is a multi-billion dollar business I just would have thought that they are running sophisticated investigation departments even across different platforms.

If someone is KYCed and you realize that he repeatedly is involved in suspicious cases, you just exclude him from your platform and share that info with all other bookmakers. Something like that could enfold an effect over time.