they are scamming us?

[Haunebu]

On the other hand, I don't know how you assess if a casino is truly provably fair or not; I am incapable to do that because my technical skills are ridiculous, but maybe you can search on their code for inconsistencies.

You don't need to be a technical genius in order to verify provably fair algorithms in crypto gambling sites. Just did a random google search and found some helpful links.

https://www.quora.com/How-do-you-manually-verify-provably-fair-wagers

https://www.btcgosu.com/tools/provably-fair-verifier/

https://dicetrue.com/provably-fair-checker/

These are just a couple of ways. Do your research!

[paxmao]

Everyone and anyone can judge on their own about these cases. The casinos are there to maximise the profit and players are aware of it of course. If you feel that the site is letting you down too often, to the point in which you can easily notice, then is time to think of migrating to another place. If you are suspicious, do some numbers - it is boring but useful.

[Accardo]

I think op is just giving an opinion here about what he felt about some of the many casinos that we are using and we might not be aware of what is going on and how they might to cheating. This is time for many of us to be prepared and asking questions about some of the bugs some insincere casinos are having.

I have seen some gamblers complaining about some sites they are using and they keep making losing with knowing the cause. This could be real that is why we need to make sure that we are using a reputable casinos that are well to do.

Aside the provably fair and a casino being reputable it's not hidden that casinos are taking profits from gamblers. Every player needs to choose wisely the machine that has the payback percentage that'll suit their bankroll, because that's where the con starts. On the long run players still lose, so it's not a surprise thing if the provably fair feature is been manipulated by some casinos. Come to think of it, any casino that boldly writes on their terms and conditions “No Provably fair" would gain lesser customers. So, I think some of the casinos add provably fair on site without having such feature. Between not everyone can check or confirm these features. It's good to use reputable casinos like you said, but it's better to know these techniques and study how slot machines work. That will enable easy swapping of casinos whenever they begin to get shady.

[Ryu_Ar1]

Trying something new is very good but when there is no clarity for the site especially for a new site, I think it is risky and the condition is like what you experienced.
It would be good to be on sites that are proven to be trusted on this forum. until now I have tried almost all the sites that are trusted on this site and as long as I tried and even continued to play until now, I did not get any complaints about it because they really have been tested both in terms of performance and reputation.

[decodx]

On the other hand, I don't know how you assess if a casino is truly provably fair or not; I am incapable to do that because my technical skills are ridiculous, but maybe you can search on their code for inconsistencies.

I don't think you need to have fancy technical skills to be able to verify your bets at a provably fair casino. To verify the fairness of a provably fair casino, there are a few steps you can take. Firstly, you can check if the casino has a "Provably Fair" section on their website that explains how their system works. This should include information on the cryptographic algorithms used and how to verify the results.

Secondly, you can use third-party verification tools to check the results of games. These tools use mathematical algorithms to check that the results of games are truly random and not manipulated.

[Fatunad]

On the other hand, I don't know how you assess if a casino is truly provably fair or not; I am incapable to do that because my technical skills are ridiculous, but maybe you can search on their code for inconsistencies.

I don't think you need to have fancy technical skills to be able to verify your bets at a provably fair casino. To verify the fairness of a provably fair casino, there are a few steps you can take. Firstly, you can check if the casino has a "Provably Fair" section on their website that explains how their system works. This should include information on the cryptographic algorithms used and how to verify the results.

Secondly, you can use third-party verification tools to check the results of games. These tools use mathematical algorithms to check that the results of games are truly random and not manipulated.

Usually you could see these pages or links on a top ranking or well established gambling sites on which you could be able to verify those hashes and see for yourself if they are really having those fair rolls.
For those who are really that having doubts about being fair then its up to you whether you would really be that going or being dubious about their fairness but for me i dont really care that much
as long i do deal with the known or popular sites on where most people been playing on.

[goinmerry]

For those who are really that having doubts about being fair then its up to you whether you would really be that going or being dubious about their fairness but for me i dont really care that much
as long i do deal with the known or popular sites on where most people been playing on.

This is what I agree with. Even though I don't have that technical knowledge regarding verifying the provably fair of casino games, as long as I'm playing with a reputable gambling site, I should consider myself as somehow safe at using their service.

These popular sites will not just be turned into scams as they are registered legally and I don't they will exchange a small penny for the trust they have built.

If having trouble choosing a reputable site, OP can read those ANN threads and from reading the discussion there, OP should tell if the site is legit or not.

[Hispo]

For those who are really that having doubts about being fair then its up to you whether you would really be that going or being dubious about their fairness but for me i dont really care that much
as long i do deal with the known or popular sites on where most people been playing on.

This is what I agree with. Even though I don't have that technical knowledge regarding verifying the provably fair of casino games, as long as I'm playing with a reputable gambling site, I should consider myself as somehow safe at using their service.

These popular sites will not just be turned into scams as they are registered legally and I don't they will exchange a small penny for the trust they have built.

If having trouble choosing a reputable site, OP can read those ANN threads and from reading the discussion there, OP should tell if the site is legit or not.

While I personally feel that it is good to be able to verify fairness and probably fair games it is important feature for this industry, I agree with you and if someone is not tech-savvy enough to check the hashes/seeds of the games they are playing, then it is better just to stick to and only gamble on casinos with a long history of good reputation, solid liquidity and profitability.

It would not make sense (as you said) for a casino of those characteristics to risk their name and position in the industry just for some extra money/advantage, but also it would be matter of time before a group of people found out something weird would be going on when they tried to verify themselves the seeds/hashes.

[Daltonik]

Simply having provably fair for some games is certainly a desirable aspect in gambling, but it is not applicable in most modern licensed slots, and can also be used in simple newly created online casinos to create an impression of fair play, but then simply refuse to pay funds. Very vague rules prescribed in many TaC allow you to block a player simply by referring to abuse on his part.

[CODE200]

For those who are really that having doubts about being fair then its up to you whether you would really be that going or being dubious about their fairness but for me i dont really care that much
as long i do deal with the known or popular sites on where most people been playing on.

This is what I agree with. Even though I don't have that technical knowledge regarding verifying the provably fair of casino games, as long as I'm playing with a reputable gambling site, I should consider myself as somehow safe at using their service.

These popular sites will not just be turned into scams as they are registered legally and I don't they will exchange a small penny for the trust they have built.

If having trouble choosing a reputable site, OP can read those ANN threads and from reading the discussion there, OP should tell if the site is legit or not.

It is really doubtful if you will go to a casino or not so popular sites that are not registered. For you to have calmness while gambling in a casino or site, why try to do research about it first, right? Those sites do not force you to go in to them. In the end, it's still your decision. If you think it's a scam why go and spend money on it? As I was once a gambler before, I don't think it's not fair because in gambling you don't have a 100% probability that you will win or lose. Sometimes it's just timing and luck.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Simply having provably fair for some games is certainly a desirable aspect in gambling, but it is not applicable in most modern licensed slots, and can also be used in simple newly created online casinos to create an impression of fair play, but then simply refuse to pay funds. Very vague rules prescribed in many TaC allow you to block a player simply by referring to abuse on his part.

One of the good reasons why I am always skeptical playing on new casinos, and I also, always advice gamblers to  start their gambling on a new casino with a very small amount of at all, they must,  else, it is always better to play on big reputable casinos, that have proven their genuinuety in the gambling industry.

But on the other hand, I always remember that the big casinos we prefer to play on today, sometime in the past was a small casino starting out as well, if gamblers avoided them because they were a small casino, probably, they would become a big casino today.
So because of this, I decided it still important to support the small casinos with our small bets, until they prove themselves legitimate and worthy of our big bets.

And also to add, any good casino wouldn't include shady stuff, or something that would give gamblers doubt about them, in their terms and conditions.

[tusandii]

And also to add, any good casino wouldn't include shady stuff, or something that would give gamblers doubt about them, in their terms and conditions.

It seems that not only the good casinos but all the small to high ranking casinos would never do anything to make their customers feel doubtful.
Of course, every casino will do anything to make their customers have trust and confidence in them, because after all, casinos always have ways and conditions that are made to always have lots of loyal customers and new users.
We can also see that some scam casinos also have a way to make gamblers believe and not hesitate to enter and then deposit money at a scam casino.
The conclusion is that every casino will provide the best for customers and for the sake of the casino business that they run.

[Wiwo]

Everyone and anyone can judge on their own about these cases. The casinos are there to maximise the profit and players are aware of it of course. If you feel that the site is letting you down too often, to the point in which you can easily notice, then is time to think of migrating to another place. If you are suspicious, do some numbers - it is boring but useful.

Yes and as long as the player accepts the T&C the responsibility is laid on them to abide by all casinos rules and be willing to accept any judgement placed on them by the casino, so I wouldn't say that the casino is to be blamed if the player failed to meet any of the casino requirements and if the penalty is given.

-Casino is like every other business and the goal is to make profits but in doing so there must follow due process to avoid becoming a violator of player right and flag as a scam.

[TheGreatPython]

You are scamming yourself op thanks to your delusional thoughts which are silly and dumb frankly speaking. If probably fair systems were truly unfair as you mentioned, those sites would have gone out of business a long time ago.

Why? Because not all gamblers are naive and gullible. Many of them including me check whether such systems are truly fair or not before deciding to invest in those sites.

Some of them turn out to be legit while some turn out to be unfair. Do your research!

Whether it's a gambling platform or anything in general that involves money, research is required before putting the money at risk if the service provider turns out to be untrustworthy, there is nothing you can really do later other than just regretting your initial decisions which won't give you your money back.

So it's better if a person does his due diligence before getting into a casino, depositing money, and playing and then later find out that their provably fair system is rigged or they are basically compromising all the bets.

[Cling18]

Everyone and anyone can judge on their own about these cases. The casinos are there to maximise the profit and players are aware of it of course. If you feel that the site is letting you down too often, to the point in which you can easily notice, then is time to think of migrating to another place. If you are suspicious, do some numbers - it is boring but useful.

Yes and as long as the player accepts the T&C the responsibility is laid on them to abide by all casinos rules and be willing to accept any judgement placed on them by the casino, so I wouldn't say that the casino is to be blamed if the player failed to meet any of the casino requirements and if the penalty is given.

-Casino is like every other business and the goal is to make profits but in doing so there must follow due process to avoid becoming a violator of player right and flag as a scam.

Casinos could rule over the site and if you completely understand their TOS and if you are on a trusted site, you might not have that kind of accusation. Of course, we can't always win over the house and we have no control over it and that's the risk of crypto casino gambling. If ever you are losing, don't think that they are scamming you because that's part of the risk that you have to deal with. If you are not comfortable with the recent casino that you are using, then you can simply switch to other sites.

[sujonali1819]

We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

Yes, of course in the end house will win. This is how the games or gambling platforms are built. But you have to choose the trusted one to get more fairness. A lot of trusted gambling platforms are promoting them in this forum, you can choose one of them.

On the other hand you can play live games , basically the live blackjack which is much fair I think.

[bettercrypto]

If you gamble only what you can afford to lose in every game, you will have less to worry about when you start winning big. Making money through gambling may seem impossible at first, but if you risk only what you can afford to lose, you will have less to worry about.

To avoid scammers, make sure you practice your gambling skills on a reputable gambling website, I know some scammers have come up with attractive new gambling websites, and they have it in mind to never run the platform for too long, the only way to avoid them is using reliable gambling websites only.

Also, try to understand that you can't always win, it's a big loss for casino runners if all players keep winning.

Are there "Skills" that are called upon when a gambler plays? isn't it true that playing in the casino is always based on luck and not on skills. That's why the house edge often wins.

     That's why most people don't believe that gambling can be a source of income, because there is no fixed income here to get instead of losing our capital later if we are careless in playing, so we should just consider it which is a hobby and winning is secondary.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,

Casino businesses are created for profit making and as such, always at an advantage when people come to gamble. So in regard to this very statement of yours, I will likely say that the manipulation of the outcome of a game can only be common when it comes to slot games and not all kinds of games. Because when it comes to sports betting (I.e Football & Basketball), casinos can not analyze and try to make a gambler lose simply because they have no control over what could be the outcome of a sports betting game. Hence, makes it more interesting, as if you are lucky to predict the correct outcome, you get rewarded.

[cafter]

We really like to play gambling online , and there are lot of crypto gambling sites out there ,
many times i doubted the provably fair system,  that these casinos are cheating me, but what can i do ,
i come across this YouTube video that a biggest gambling site supervisor telling the truth about these sites,
that they analyze our bets and try to make us lose ,
what are your thoughts ,
i know provably system but many times i doubted it, i don't know this person is talking about crypto gambling or not but may be it also applies in crypto gambling.
most of you also may doubted the casino ,
video:https://youtu.be/ABj7peI_R2M

Yes, of course in the end house will win. This is how the games or gambling platforms are built. But you have to choose the trusted one to get more fairness. A lot of trusted gambling platforms are promoting them in this forum, you can choose one of them.

On the other hand you can play live games , basically the live blackjack which is much fair I think.

yes, i like live games more than provably fair , i don't know why but every time in the end i definetly lose in provably fair,
in live games we can control emotions and we can think our next move in the next round timing.(means while playing provably fair like crash or keno we doesn't have time to think what will be our next move. like increasing the bet or decreasing the bet, doubling bet, etc., and in live games there is some seconds of time runs, in that time we can think about our next bet , that we need to increase the bet amount or decrease.and we can try to control our emotions)

[decodx]

yes, i like live games more than provably fair , i don't know why but every time in the end i definetly lose in provably fair,
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Yeah, I totally get what you're saying! I love live games too for pretty much the same reasons. There's just something about being able to see the cards being dealt or the roulette wheel spinning that makes it more exciting and easier to control your emotions.
Another thing I love about live games is the social aspect. It's just more fun to play with other people and have that sense of camaraderie and competition. With provably fair games, you're usually just playing by yourself and there's no real interaction with other players.