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March 26, 2023, 05:22:12 PM
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Ops made a very valid point in his statement on the condition a gambler should be i whatever direction be it lose a win, and this mentality will help build good motivation in the mind of the players some time we may feel down when we lose but actually, in reality, we win-win.
But seriously you can't be serious right now, because I don't see gambling as a win vs win adventure After all, the outcome of gambling games is mostly controlled by the casino since their systems are designed in such a way.

If you said when we lose, we learn vital gambling lessons you may be right, so when you lose money, you gain experience.

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March 26, 2023, 06:07:02 PM
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In principle you are right, but if you place a bet because you gamble and this is because of an addiction, the story will be different. Someone who places 100k and loses that bet, few lessons can be learned from that. The only lesson you could learn is that you should stop gambling or at least cut back, but this is often an indirect encouragement to bet even more to win back the lost 100k as quickly as possible. But if you play with low limits you can try out some things and learn from your bets. In fact, the whole gambling is a waste because there are few people who can get rich with it.

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March 26, 2023, 06:55:41 PM
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O yeah, we win some we lose some that are the way the game goes, I have been gambling for a while now, and frankly speaking,3 I don't feel bad when the bet doesn't go my way, but then I am also able to set a limit to the number of bets I make so that I can control my feelings when the bet donts go my way.

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March 27, 2023, 09:21:12 AM
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I`m in gambling for emotions and i can get positive emotions even if i lose money. But it is a problem for some gamblers, you`re right. The casino get money from such gamblers. The gamblers who play without emotions don`t bring casino money, gamblers like me - bring, but not many. And these gamblers, who try to bet again and again - lose everything.
For me gambling is mostly a way to relax. When i want to visit the football match i`m paying for the ticket, something, that i buy at the stadium. The gambling is the same for me - the money i lose is like buying a ticket for me.

Positive emotions when losing money? That's different and I guess you are one of those rare gamblers who focuses primarily on the fun aspect. However, I have never heard of gamblers who play without emotions.
I don't think that is possible at all unless you are some sort of robot basically.
I saw such a man. I can`t say if he his some hidden emotions, but i hadn`t saw any emotion both from winning and losing.

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March 27, 2023, 11:13:29 AM
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For me gambling is mostly a way to relax. When i want to visit the football match i`m paying for the ticket, something, that i buy at the stadium. The gambling is the same for me - the money i lose is like buying a ticket for me.


Gambling is like a habit that one has and with habit you inch to carry it out with out your own control. So paying for ticket on a football match is not always all the time but gambling is done all the time. Gambling is not for only fun but for financial gain that will come of it. You can watch games without attaching money to it but if money is attached then you are gambling it to gain pecuniary benefit on it because when it doesn't go your way then you are forfeiting something which is the money used in gambling and one way depending on the consistency of loses, we do feel it when we lose.

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March 27, 2023, 12:03:06 PM
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For me gambling is mostly a way to relax. When i want to visit the football match i`m paying for the ticket, something, that i buy at the stadium. The gambling is the same for me - the money i lose is like buying a ticket for me.


Gambling is like a habit that one has and with habit you inch to carry it out with out your own control. So paying for ticket on a football match is not always all the time but gambling is done all the time. Gambling is not for only fun but for financial gain that will come of it. You can watch games without attaching money to it but if money is attached then you are gambling it to gain pecuniary benefit on it because when it doesn't go your way then you are forfeiting something which is the money used in gambling and one way depending on the consistency of loses, we do feel it when we lose.
Gambling is a business and these owners will do their best to encourage gamblers to use their platforms by simply offering a huge jackpot prize. And this idea gains interest to the gamblers which really affects their mindset and start chasing it. Unfortunately, they never notice that they fall into addiction, and without knowing that they lose a lot of money than the prize. And who's to blame in this? Of course, not the site operator but the one who gambles.



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March 27, 2023, 01:10:21 PM
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For me gambling is mostly a way to relax. When i want to visit the football match i`m paying for the ticket, something, that i buy at the stadium. The gambling is the same for me - the money i lose is like buying a ticket for me.


Gambling is like a habit that one has and with habit you inch to carry it out with out your own control. So paying for ticket on a football match is not always all the time but gambling is done all the time. Gambling is not for only fun but for financial gain that will come of it. You can watch games without attaching money to it but if money is attached then you are gambling it to gain pecuniary benefit on it because when it doesn't go your way then you are forfeiting something which is the money used in gambling and one way depending on the consistency of loses, we do feel it when we lose.

If a player sees gambling as part of relaxation i guess they don't need to get worried about the money they spent on making a bet, but if you are just coming right there just to make a watch the sports this really gives good entertainment but in terms of gambling this is just an add ons with the game. Its different in playing gambling you are spending the amount same with the ticket but of course, with your ego do you want to get your money back or not, if yes, of course, make another round of the game. If not and settle with the same price of ticket i guess you dont need to worry about it.

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March 27, 2023, 07:28:03 PM
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I`m in gambling for emotions and i can get positive emotions even if i lose money. But it is a problem for some gamblers, you`re right. The casino get money from such gamblers. The gamblers who play without emotions don`t bring casino money, gamblers like me - bring, but not many. And these gamblers, who try to bet again and again - lose everything.
Positive emotions when losing money? That's different and I guess you are one of those rare gamblers who focuses primarily on the fun aspect. However, I have never heard of gamblers who play without emotions.

I don't think that is possible at all unless you are some sort of robot basically.
I think what he means by positive emotions is when he already knows the risks of losing and he is ready to lose money. It sounds like a joke, but believe me there are lots of people like that who gamble for fun and to satisfy what he wants to do. There is satisfaction when they gamble even though they experience defeat, and that is what drives them to have positive emotions.

I also understand when you say robot to someone who has feelings like that, because basically when you lose most people will get emotional because they lost a lot of money. We must first see on what basis they gamble, so we will know what emotions are caused when experiencing defeat.

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March 27, 2023, 07:44:59 PM
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O yeah, we win some we lose some that are the way the game goes, I have been gambling for a while now, and frankly speaking,3 I don't feel bad when the bet doesn't go my way, but then I am also able to set a limit to the number of bets I make so that I can control my feelings when the bet donts go my way.
Real gamblers have nothing to do with their losses. They use it to encourage themselves in the next bet. So for them no gamble is a waste, there is always hope to win the next game to cover the previous losses. Losing and winning is part of a real gambler. That is why when they win unexpected they are very happy. But the less minded gamblers is afraid to face losses. A life time gambler does not expect all time win because he does that definitely he would lose games and win  some. And all gamblers are gambling to win and not to lose but losing is unpredictable.









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March 27, 2023, 09:43:17 PM
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Ops made a very valid point in his statement on the condition a gambler should be i whatever direction be it lose a win, and this mentality will help build good motivation in the mind of the players some time we may feel down when we lose but actually, in reality, we win-win.
But seriously you can't be serious right now, because I don't see gambling as a win vs win adventure After all, the outcome of gambling games is mostly controlled by the casino since their systems are designed in such a way.

If you said when we lose, we learn vital gambling lessons you may be right, so when you lose money, you gain experience.
The outcome of a bet is not mostly controlled by the casino, it all depends on the kind of bet we are doing whether it is the one where a betting platform would have full edge over the winnings or the one whether winning a bet is not demined by the betting platform. We need to know what we are doing before we start complaining later of our mistakes. There is not way you will bet on sport and a casino would determine the outcome.

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In this aspect it is good for someone to know exactly the particular fight that is going to bed because betting have to deal with their platform and if you don't cross-check your platform you want to know the important and the reputation of that particular platform so I believe that why we lose in site is based on inability to make a proper research in that particular site

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In this aspect it is good for someone to know exactly the particular fight that is going to bed because betting have to deal with their platform and if you don't cross-check your platform you want to know the important and the reputation of that particular platform so I believe that why we lose in site is based on inability to make a proper research in that particular site
When we put attention to what we are doing we are going to know whether what we are doing is good or not.
 It is better for us to test so many different games to know the ones that we are good in or will be giving a lots of money. To make money these can be very competitive and challenging if we don't know how to go about it. Making betting and winning is another probs. 

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In this aspect it is good for someone to know exactly the particular fight that is going to bed because betting have to deal with their platform and if you don't cross-check your platform you want to know the important and the reputation of that particular platform so I believe that why we lose in site is based on inability to make a proper research in that particular site
When we put attention to what we are doing we are going to know whether what we are doing is good or not.
 It is better for us to test so many different games to know the ones that we are good in or will be giving a lots of money. To make money these can be very competitive and challenging if we don't know how to go about it. Making betting and winning is another probs. 
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Keeping emotions in check while betting is a real smart move. When we're all chasing losses, it can turn into an addiction and cost us a fortune. People gotta learn to chill, play it cool, and not let feelings call the shots.

Funny enough, research tells us that those who got a grip on their emotions find success in different life aspects. So, this emotional control game ain't just for gambling, it's for our everyday lives too. Helps us make wiser choices and score better results. And hey, staying relaxed and mindful while playing just adds to the fun – which is what we're here for, right?
But mastering emotions can indeed succeed because by controlling emotions or being calm, we can find a way out of every problem and won't make wrong decisions. We will be able to make wise choices based on the situation by always paying attention to the risks of each decision we make. And it also has to do with gambling, where if we are not calm or can't control our emotions, we can use more money where we can't always win.

And when we use that much money, we can be tempted to increase the number of bets, making us experience big losses. That's why we must be able to control our emotions and always stay calm so we don't experience things we don't want.

It is interesting moment. I`m in gambling for emotions and i can get positive emotions even if i lose money. But it is a problem for some gamblers, you`re right. The casino get money from such gamblers. The gamblers who play without emotions don`t bring casino money, gamblers like me - bring, but not many. And these gamblers, who try to bet again and again - lose everything.
Not everyone can use their emotions to become positive; instead, many people use their emotions to get a win they don't get in the end. Instead, they experience many defeats because they lose control of themselves and experience increased emotions that are not good for them. Gamblers who can gamble without emotion can enjoy gambling as much as it is entertainment so they will not regret having lost some money. And we as gamblers, should also be able to treat gambling as entertainment that gives pleasure.

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March 28, 2023, 12:03:01 PM
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In this aspect it is good for someone to know exactly the particular fight that is going to bed because betting have to deal with their platform and if you don't cross-check your platform you want to know the important and the reputation of that particular platform so I believe that why we lose in site is based on inability to make a proper research in that particular site
When we put attention to what we are doing we are going to know whether what we are doing is good or not.
 It is better for us to test so many different games to know the ones that we are good in or will be giving a lots of money. To make money these can be very competitive and challenging if we don't know how to go about it. Making betting and winning is another probs. 
there is no way you can no a platform that will give you a prophet or not but what is important is to know the legitimate platform that have a reputation hooch when you bet and win you can be able to have what from the platform that is the most important thing in a given platform
and it is obvious that this is not the platform bellow your signature , because there is no chance that it can be called legitimate ?  Grin

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March 28, 2023, 01:19:34 PM
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Keeping emotions in check while betting is a real smart move. When we're all chasing losses, it can turn into an addiction and cost us a fortune. People gotta learn to chill, play it cool, and not let feelings call the shots.

Funny enough, research tells us that those who got a grip on their emotions find success in different life aspects. So, this emotional control game ain't just for gambling, it's for our everyday lives too. Helps us make wiser choices and score better results. And hey, staying relaxed and mindful while playing just adds to the fun – which is what we're here for, right?
But mastering emotions can indeed succeed because by controlling emotions or being calm, we can find a way out of every problem and won't make wrong decisions. We will be able to make wise choices based on the situation by always paying attention to the risks of each decision we make. And it also has to do with gambling, where if we are not calm or can't control our emotions, we can use more money where we can't always win.

And when we use that much money, we can be tempted to increase the number of bets, making us experience big losses. That's why we must be able to control our emotions and always stay calm so we don't experience things we don't want.

It is interesting moment. I`m in gambling for emotions and i can get positive emotions even if i lose money. But it is a problem for some gamblers, you`re right. The casino get money from such gamblers. The gamblers who play without emotions don`t bring casino money, gamblers like me - bring, but not many. And these gamblers, who try to bet again and again - lose everything.
Not everyone can use their emotions to become positive; instead, many people use their emotions to get a win they don't get in the end. Instead, they experience many defeats because they lose control of themselves and experience increased emotions that are not good for them. Gamblers who can gamble without emotion can enjoy gambling as much as it is entertainment so they will not regret having lost some money. And we as gamblers, should also be able to treat gambling as entertainment that gives pleasure.

Many gamblers has missed it while gambling because of being too emotional either by over anxiety, over excitement, over curious or over confidence, the make bets they would have ended up winning and loose every effort rendered just because of a slight mistake that resulted from the inability to control one's emotions, this same indisciplined attitude in gambling is what led others to getting addicted as well.



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March 28, 2023, 02:02:06 PM
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O yeah, we win some we lose some that are the way the game goes, I have been gambling for a while now, and frankly speaking,3 I don't feel bad when the bet doesn't go my way, but then I am also able to set a limit to the number of bets I make so that I can control my feelings when the bet donts go my way.
Real gamblers have nothing to do with their losses. They use it to encourage themselves in the next bet. So for them no gamble is a waste, there is always hope to win the next game to cover the previous losses. Losing and winning is part of a real gambler. That is why when they win unexpected they are very happy. But the less minded gamblers is afraid to face losses. A life time gambler does not expect all time win because he does that definitely he would lose games and win  some. And all gamblers are gambling to win and not to lose but losing is unpredictable.

I agree with all of this since as a gambler you should always be ready mentally for what to happen. They should know their limits in terms of financial and capacity to handle big emotions especially with losing. Loss is indeed unpredictable since gambling is a game of luck, there are times that you win, lose or breakeven. I think a skilled gambler have a great way of handling emotions since when we let emotion take over our actions, it doesn't result in good things. Gambling involves a lot of emotion, so just be ready to experience and control those.
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March 28, 2023, 02:31:00 PM
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Then what makes it gambling is that your favourite team or your favourite fighter does not always win. What makes it gambling is when 1.38 odds refused to play and 14 odds play.
But a gambler who gambles based on their selection of favourite team or fighter would make a bad gambling. You need to check the form, the emotion and conditions of your favourite before you employ them in your betting slip.
Technical, I high level risk bet without research can be regarded as a waste.
It's true not all favorite team or fighter will always win and that's why don't force to bet on every match, just focus to analysis on the fight where the underdog is high likely will win since they're capable to beat the favorite side. A clever bettor will be selective to bet on an underdog, of he bet on favorite team or fighter more than one match aka parlay bet. If you bet on favorite team or fighter, you don't need any research, do you think the @Op make a research?

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March 28, 2023, 03:39:24 PM
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Then what makes it gambling is that your favourite team or your favourite fighter does not always win. What makes it gambling is when 1.38 odds refused to play and 14 odds play.
But a gambler who gambles based on their selection of favourite team or fighter would make a bad gambling. You need to check the form, the emotion and conditions of your favourite before you employ them in your betting slip.
Technical, I high level risk bet without research can be regarded as a waste.
It's true not all favorite team or fighter will always win and that's why don't force to bet on every match, just focus to analysis on the fight where the underdog is high likely will win since they're capable to beat the favorite side. A clever bettor will be selective to bet on an underdog, of he bet on favorite team or fighter more than one match aka parlay bet. If you bet on favorite team or fighter, you don't need any research, do you think the @Op make a research?

Well, it doesn't necessarily mean that you bet on your favorite team, then you're guaranteed a win. It doesn't work that way. You need to take into consideration many factors such as the updated status of the team of your choice and its players. Because you don't want to just waste and lose money over uncalculated risk. Emotions shouldn't be in your way in making decisions to oversee all the possible angles and situation where they could win or lose.

Analysis of the previous fights especially the most recent ones is needed in order to tell whether if it is still worth the bet or not. Research is crucial whether you are going to bet on your favorite team or other teams to ensure your percentage in winning. It will be stupid if you'll be impulsive because of over confidence.
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For me gambling is mostly a way to relax. When i want to visit the football match i`m paying for the ticket, something, that i buy at the stadium. The gambling is the same for me - the money i lose is like buying a ticket for me.
Gambling is like a habit that one has and with habit you inch to carry it out with out your own control. So paying for ticket on a football match is not always all the time but gambling is done all the time. Gambling is not for only fun but for financial gain that will come of it. You can watch games without attaching money to it but if money is attached then you are gambling it to gain pecuniary benefit on it because when it doesn't go your way then you are forfeiting something which is the money used in gambling and one way depending on the consistency of loses, we do feel it when we lose.
I`m in such kind of gambling about 10-15 years and still gamble when i want. And i don`t want to gamble more often. This is my way of relax. And i can`t say that gambling for me costs much more than 2 football matches per month. All people are different, and something that is good for me, can be not so good(at least) for someone else.

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