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April 30, 2023, 08:32:29 AM
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Well, if John Ryder does not impress the judges even though he is leading may lose the fight.  So we might see Canelo getting an easy victory here due to the skill of Canelo and the judges' favoritism.

Lol, all that Canelo needs to do is show up in the ring and he already wins?

But you've got a point there mate, if this fight will turn out to be a close one, the ref will always raise Canelo's victorious hands as he should not lose in front of his crowd. I've been following Canelo's fight and this dude was never over-confident going into one and he always trains hard whoever opponent thrown in front of him, one of the best attribute a boxer of his caliber must have.

I think this would not last nine rounds, so under 9.5 @1.73 might be the one i will be betting.
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April 30, 2023, 08:55:02 AM
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Another choice of worthy bet is the round range



Maybe Canelo & 7-9 or Canelo & 10-12 could be a good bet, I don't really expect a quick KO by Canelo, maybe it will give a good fight like when Canelo was fight against Caleb Plant.

I think if Ryder able to pull an upset against Canelo, he will not win via KO, but he can only win via decision. If someone think Ryder can win in this fight, maybe just bet Ryder & 10-12 since the odds is really high.

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May 01, 2023, 11:19:08 AM
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^^ Yes, probably Canelo wanting to give his fans what they want to see here, if Canelo felt that it is going to be an easy fight for him, then probably will have to extend the fight in the middle to 10 rounds and soften up Ryder and then toy with him. And maybe he will really test his hands and wrist and see how it is going to be in his fight comeback fight. Usually the bone should be ok, but this is professional boxing, so anything they can broke their hands again because of the power they can generated when throwing it and hitting like the body and face of their opponents. I don't know how Ryder will upset though, unless he turns into a Bivol, with great footwork, better chin and has that volume punching in him.

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May 01, 2023, 01:02:36 PM
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There's no doubtn eye opener for the world of boxing, but I'm sure that many of the fans will be rooting for the fight to be a one-sided fight. 
 
I'm not sure if this will be the last fight of the year, but it's going to be a long time before we see the ringtone of the fight coming to an end. 
 
Let's hope that the fight will be a one-sided fight, and we'll see who will win the fight.
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May 01, 2023, 02:39:52 PM
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^^ Yes, probably Canelo wanting to give his fans what they want to see here, if Canelo felt that it is going to be an easy fight for him, then probably will have to extend the fight in the middle to 10 rounds and soften up Ryder and then toy with him. And maybe he will really test his hands and wrist and see how it is going to be in his fight comeback fight. Usually the bone should be ok, but this is professional boxing, so anything they can broke their hands again because of the power they can generated when throwing it and hitting like the body and face of their opponents. I don't know how Ryder will upset though, unless he turns into a Bivol, with great footwork, better chin and has that volume punching in him.

I don't see Ryder to have chance. This is one exhibition for Canelo's skill to show off, shameless way to add a win under his record while its like a Midget team vs NBA all star team.

It can't be that bad for Ryder as long as he get paid in this financial turmoil though. Times like this you need to KOed by Jake Paul to make money.

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May 01, 2023, 04:13:28 PM
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^^ Yes, probably Canelo wanting to give his fans what they want to see here, if Canelo felt that it is going to be an easy fight for him, then probably will have to extend the fight in the middle to 10 rounds and soften up Ryder and then toy with him. And maybe he will really test his hands and wrist and see how it is going to be in his fight comeback fight. Usually the bone should be ok, but this is professional boxing, so anything they can broke their hands again because of the power they can generated when throwing it and hitting like the body and face of their opponents. I don't know how Ryder will upset though, unless he turns into a Bivol, with great footwork, better chin and has that volume punching in him.

I don't see Ryder to have chance. This is one exhibition for Canelo's skill to show off, shameless way to add a win under his record while its like a Midget team vs NBA all star team.

It can't be that bad for Ryder as long as he get paid in this financial turmoil though. Times like this you need to KOed by Jake Paul to make money.

Of course, John Ryder wasn't cherry picked by Canelo's team to be there to defeat their cash cow. Ryder's sole reason why he is in this bout fighting with Canelo is because he will be the one who will keep latter warm before he proceeds to his rematch versus Bivol.

Besides, I don't think David Benavidez will get his much-wanted time this year because their only choice to make the bout happen is if Canelo will be due for another mandatory defense fight or if Canelo will approve it.

For John Ryder, the man is already on his retirement phase so this should be a good paycheck for him before he hangs up his gloves and leave the boxing industry for good.

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May 02, 2023, 11:37:37 AM
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I don't see Ryder to have chance. This is one exhibition for Canelo's skill to show off, shameless way to add a win under his record while its like a Midget team vs NBA all star team.

It can't be that bad for Ryder as long as he get paid in this financial turmoil though. Times like this you need to KOed by Jake Paul to make money.

Lol. What an absurd comparison Cheesy Why so evil ? Cheesy Ryder cant be such trash.

I actually feel bad for John Ryder. Whole world does not believe in him. Imagine to go to fight with such a mood. I hope that this fight would end with UD decision, but not with a total declass by Canelo. Otherwise it slowly turns boring for me to watch Canelo fights, as in middleweight he is undefeated, but he isnt planning to go to other division for more challenge.

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May 02, 2023, 05:04:48 PM
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I don't see Ryder to have chance. This is one exhibition for Canelo's skill to show off, shameless way to add a win under his record while its like a Midget team vs NBA all star team.

It can't be that bad for Ryder as long as he get paid in this financial turmoil though. Times like this you need to KOed by Jake Paul to make money.

Lol. What an absurd comparison Cheesy Why so evil ? Cheesy Ryder cant be such trash.

I actually feel bad for John Ryder. Whole world does not believe in him. Imagine to go to fight with such a mood. I hope that this fight would end with UD decision, but not with a total declass by Canelo. Otherwise it slowly turns boring for me to watch Canelo fights, as in middleweight he is undefeated, but he isnt planning to go to other division for more challenge.

It's very humiliating to see a fight where the odds are:

Canelo Alvarez = @1.06
John Ryder = @8.80

I believe that even John Ryder, when he sees this odd, convinces himself that he has no chance of winning in this fight, with many people putting a lot of pressure on him, he can lose concentration, I heard that Canelo hasn't fought in Mexico since 2011 and Ryder is coming for this fight with some optimism because he had good results in the fights before this one, but this odds value is not good for ryder, being left-handed he can have punch angles that are very difficult for a fighter to defend himself, but Canelo Alvarez has the advantage of having good finishing skills, he has good speed

in general it is very difficult when bookmakers give odds of @1.06 to a fighter, and that fighter loses, at least in the few years that I have been in sports betting, there are few cases of games in which bookmakers give odds of @ 1.06 to a fighter and that fighter loses the fight, if it were odds of something like @1.22 and up I could say that John Ryder could still surprise and win this fight, but from what I see, I think it's very difficult to see any surprises in the result this fight, with this low odd I won't place a bet on this fight, maybe I will on the other fights that will happen, I saw the possibility of doing a multibet and placing all favorites that have an odd of @1.06 and it is also an option that I am considering

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May 02, 2023, 07:42:18 PM
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I believe that even John Ryder, when he sees this odd, convinces himself that he has no chance of winning in this fight, with many people putting a lot of pressure on him, he can lose concentration, I heard that Canelo hasn't fought in Mexico since 2011 and Ryder is coming for this fight with some optimism because he had good results in the fights before this one, but this odds value is not good for ryder, being left-handed he can have punch angles that are very difficult for a fighter to defend himself, but Canelo Alvarez has the advantage of having good finishing skills, he has good speed

Surely being listed as a 8:1 heavy underdog will discourage your existence in the fight because how can you oppose those listed odds and make something out of it positively if the people and even the bookies are already seeing you as a boxer who has been defeated already even before the fight starts. But it depends on how will John Ryder view his situation and I believe this will be his reason to strive more and that he can still prove himself, instead of losing faith towards the fight.

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May 02, 2023, 08:09:04 PM
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I believe that even John Ryder, when he sees this odd, convinces himself that he has no chance of winning in this fight, with many people putting a lot of pressure on him, he can lose concentration, I heard that Canelo hasn't fought in Mexico since 2011 and Ryder is coming for this fight with some optimism because he had good results in the fights before this one, but this odds value is not good for ryder, being left-handed he can have punch angles that are very difficult for a fighter to defend himself, but Canelo Alvarez has the advantage of having good finishing skills, he has good speed

Surely being listed as a 8:1 heavy underdog will discourage your existence in the fight because how can you oppose those listed odds and make something out of it positively if the people and even the bookies are already seeing you as a boxer who has been defeated already even before the fight starts. But it depends on how will John Ryder view his situation and I believe this will be his reason to strive more and that he can still prove himself, instead of losing faith towards the fight.

Discourage or be motivated even more to prove to everyone that he is not a pushover but that's a hard thing to do, I mean beating a boxing superstar in this stage of John Ryder's career is a very hard thing to accomplish.

Odds in the bookies is exaggerated but that is how they profit as they don't want people betting on the favorites would win easy money because in boxing seldom we can see an upset not like in basketball where almost every day there are upsets.

This is getting exciting, hope that there will be live coverage come fight night (of course for free).
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May 02, 2023, 11:51:12 PM
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I believe that even John Ryder, when he sees this odd, convinces himself that he has no chance of winning in this fight, with many people putting a lot of pressure on him, he can lose concentration, I heard that Canelo hasn't fought in Mexico since 2011 and Ryder is coming for this fight with some optimism because he had good results in the fights before this one, but this odds value is not good for ryder, being left-handed he can have punch angles that are very difficult for a fighter to defend himself, but Canelo Alvarez has the advantage of having good finishing skills, he has good speed

Surely being listed as a 8:1 heavy underdog will discourage your existence in the fight because how can you oppose those listed odds and make something out of it positively if the people and even the bookies are already seeing you as a boxer who has been defeated already even before the fight starts. But it depends on how will John Ryder view his situation and I believe this will be his reason to strive more and that he can still prove himself, instead of losing faith towards the fight.

Discourage or be motivated even more to prove to everyone that he is not a pushover but that's a hard thing to do, I mean beating a boxing superstar in this stage of John Ryder's career is a very hard thing to accomplish.

Odds in the bookies is exaggerated but that is how they profit as they don't want people betting on the favorites would win easy money because in boxing seldom we can see an upset not like in basketball where almost every day there are upsets.

This is getting exciting, hope that there will be live coverage come fight night (of course for free).

Yeah, as majority is saying, John Ryder is a mismatch against Canelo, his record though looks good in paper, but it doesn't mean that he can can go and fight and then upset Canelo at any version of Alvarez.

The only thing that bettors hope is that he can pull a upset, they might not be a Canelo hater or something, but gamblers are looking for good odds and then take the risk with even small amounts and then watch the fight.

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May 03, 2023, 08:33:04 PM
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I believe that even John Ryder, when he sees this odd, convinces himself that he has no chance of winning in this fight, with many people putting a lot of pressure on him, he can lose concentration, I heard that Canelo hasn't fought in Mexico since 2011 and Ryder is coming for this fight with some optimism because he had good results in the fights before this one, but this odds value is not good for ryder, being left-handed he can have punch angles that are very difficult for a fighter to defend himself, but Canelo Alvarez has the advantage of having good finishing skills, he has good speed

Surely being listed as a 8:1 heavy underdog will discourage your existence in the fight because how can you oppose those listed odds and make something out of it positively if the people and even the bookies are already seeing you as a boxer who has been defeated already even before the fight starts. But it depends on how will John Ryder view his situation and I believe this will be his reason to strive more and that he can still prove himself, instead of losing faith towards the fight.

Discourage or be motivated even more to prove to everyone that he is not a pushover but that's a hard thing to do, I mean beating a boxing superstar in this stage of John Ryder's career is a very hard thing to accomplish.

Odds in the bookies is exaggerated but that is how they profit as they don't want people betting on the favorites would win easy money because in boxing seldom we can see an upset not like in basketball where almost every day there are upsets.

This is getting exciting, hope that there will be live coverage come fight night (of course for free).

Yeah, as majority is saying, John Ryder is a mismatch against Canelo, his record though looks good in paper, but it doesn't mean that he can can go and fight and then upset Canelo at any version of Alvarez.

The only thing that bettors hope is that he can pull a upset, they might not be a Canelo hater or something, but gamblers are looking for good odds and then take the risk with even small amounts and then watch the fight.

Right, it is a mismatch ever since this fight has been made because this is just a tune-up fight for Canelo Alvarez and Ryder will just be a human measurement device to test Canelo's wrist whether if it is still needed some rest or if it's already good to go to fight another heavy name in the industry namely his rematch with Bivol. Either way, I cannot see John Ryder winning this fight, just like what the odds suggests.

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May 03, 2023, 09:17:38 PM
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I believe that even John Ryder, when he sees this odd, convinces himself that he has no chance of winning in this fight, with many people putting a lot of pressure on him, he can lose concentration, I heard that Canelo hasn't fought in Mexico since 2011 and Ryder is coming for this fight with some optimism because he had good results in the fights before this one, but this odds value is not good for ryder, being left-handed he can have punch angles that are very difficult for a fighter to defend himself, but Canelo Alvarez has the advantage of having good finishing skills, he has good speed

Surely being listed as a 8:1 heavy underdog will discourage your existence in the fight because how can you oppose those listed odds and make something out of it positively if the people and even the bookies are already seeing you as a boxer who has been defeated already even before the fight starts. But it depends on how will John Ryder view his situation and I believe this will be his reason to strive more and that he can still prove himself, instead of losing faith towards the fight.

Discourage or be motivated even more to prove to everyone that he is not a pushover but that's a hard thing to do, I mean beating a boxing superstar in this stage of John Ryder's career is a very hard thing to accomplish.

Odds in the bookies is exaggerated but that is how they profit as they don't want people betting on the favorites would win easy money because in boxing seldom we can see an upset not like in basketball where almost every day there are upsets.
Yes, you're right. John Ryder is not that young anymore to expect that he still have a good chance to upset the undisputed champion and reign the division that was once dominated by Canelo because in reality, unfortunately, his chances are just slim. In-fact, Ryder is 3 years older than Canelo and will become 35 years old this coming July which is already a phase where most of the boxers are starting to consider their retirement.

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This is getting exciting, hope that there will be live coverage come fight night (of course for free).
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May 04, 2023, 07:51:49 AM
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Just a few words to cheer up Ryder fans - he is an interim WBA champ. Not a Nr1 contender, but a champ. You dont get that belt just for having beautiful eyes. These 5 losses in his record. People say that it is a lot. But have you seen these losses? What if they were in close fights? Ryder has wins over strong opponents also. Dont judge him only by losses. He is a southpaw and technitian boxer. Southpaws were never easy opponents for Canelo. And we gonna see spam of punches from both sides.

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May 04, 2023, 08:29:35 AM
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Just a few words to cheer up Ryder fans - he is an interim WBA champ. Not a Nr1 contender, but a champ. You dont get that belt just for having beautiful eyes. These 5 losses in his record. People say that it is a lot. But have you seen these losses? What if they were in close fights? Ryder has wins over strong opponents also. Dont judge him only by losses. He is a southpaw and technitian boxer. Southpaws were never easy opponents for Canelo. And we gonna see spam of punches from both sides.
And if I'm not mistaken, he had earn that interim belt beating some opponents along the way. So for Ryder fans, it might be enough to hear that he is the WBA interim and maybe has the right to face Canelo Alvarez.

But looking at the odds, bookies are giving him a small chance to win. It might be good for him in the long run if he continues to box as he will get the experienced in fighting one of the best in this generation. I agree, in the Lara fight (in which Lara is a southpaw, Canelo had difficult times and others said that Erislandy beat him in that fight).

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May 04, 2023, 08:44:33 AM
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Just a few words to cheer up Ryder fans - he is an interim WBA champ. Not a Nr1 contender, but a champ. You dont get that belt just for having beautiful eyes. These 5 losses in his record. People say that it is a lot. But have you seen these losses? What if they were in close fights? Ryder has wins over strong opponents also. Dont judge him only by losses. He is a southpaw and technitian boxer. Southpaws were never easy opponents for Canelo. And we gonna see spam of punches from both sides.

Well yeah you've got some point. Here's a big HOWEVER,  Canelo has never knocked down in his entire pro career, yeah Jose Cotto almost got him in 2010 if not with the ropes, Canelo would've kissed the canvass, but after that Canelo has became a tougher fighter. Now, I don't know how Ryder will going to win this fight? I mean he's got 32 W and 18 are those was a KO, that isn't really a bad ratio, but that clearly indicates he's not really that dangerous KO artist. So, the fight will be held in Mexico, with a close fight he's not going to win the decision either.
Also, let's see if Canelo is really washed lol. He's not old yet though.

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May 04, 2023, 09:11:44 AM
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Just a few words to cheer up Ryder fans - he is an interim WBA champ. Not a Nr1 contender, but a champ. You dont get that belt just for having beautiful eyes. These 5 losses in his record. People say that it is a lot. But have you seen these losses? What if they were in close fights? Ryder has wins over strong opponents also. Dont judge him only by losses. He is a southpaw and technitian boxer. Southpaws were never easy opponents for Canelo. And we gonna see spam of punches from both sides.
But interim title is just a secondary title, not really the real one. Also, Ryder haven't fought many good boxers which had a similar level like Canelo Alvarez.

John Ryder is a good boxer and he's better than many boxers in his weight, if I fight with him, obviously he can easily win via KO. But Canelo is different and he's way better than Ryder, he lost to Mayweather is understandable due to politic reason and he lost to Bivol is really deserved since Bivol clearly dominating almost all the rounds.

In my view, Ryder don't have a politic power like Mayweather and not as strong as Bivol, it's why Ryder is a huge underdog.

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May 04, 2023, 03:20:46 PM
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This pic was from the press conference yesterday.

What do you think guys, Canelo clearly looks the smaller guy. Maybe Ryder can win this, bigger stature, longer reach?

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Just a few words to cheer up Ryder fans - he is an interim WBA champ. Not a Nr1 contender, but a champ. You dont get that belt just for having beautiful eyes. These 5 losses in his record. People say that it is a lot. But have you seen these losses? What if they were in close fights? Ryder has wins over strong opponents also. Dont judge him only by losses. He is a southpaw and technitian boxer. Southpaws were never easy opponents for Canelo. And we gonna see spam of punches from both sides.

I guess, that's one thing we should look forward to rather than expecting a one-sided fight throughout the night just because of the term "tune-up fight".

I, for one, particularly believe that Ryder will show what he is made of because this is a big opportunity for him to prove his existence in-front of the public but if ever he will get out defeated, I guess this bout will be his last as he already hinted a retirement just a while ago.

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