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April 12, 2023, 05:19:51 PM
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Whales gamble using large amounts of money, so the thing that Pope prioritizes the most is a large, trusted casino with a good reputation so that the money he deposits for betting can get a guarantee of security.

Be careful when you are using online translator, the one in bold above should not be Pope as I believe you mean to say whales.
When you write Pope, it refers to the head of Catholic Church and it is not good to see/read it as it sounds like you are connecting Pope to gambling activity.
At least double check the result of your online translator first before copy and paste it in this forum (you did a bigger mistake before this one in other thread).
Sorry for out of topic.

After all I'm sure the whales already have casinos that they rely on and trust i so to get whales when doing affiliate is quite difficult and almost impossible.

Agree that it is quite difficult to get whales as our referral, but if you have great resources such as a youtube account, website, or other social media accounts with great number of followers, the chance to get whales is open although there is no guarantee.

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April 12, 2023, 09:23:08 PM
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I think that people are free to do what they have to to have some extra money, and if it's something like recommending it, it's not a bad thing, I also think that all of us who live in the forum and on other platforms are also here because this Children like it, and there is nothing more rewarding than doing what you like and getting paid to do it, I think that's what it's all about, right? If you put love into a job, I don't think you'll be knocked down, I know there are many envious people, and unfair accusations can be made in the jobs, it's the common denominator, but when it's shown that this wasn't the case, that's where it's expected To be retract, then earning by recommendation is a very good thing, at least I see it that way.
Gambler or everyone is  obviously free to do what they have or want to do, and when it comes to referring people to a website, especially if it's a casino platform or a platform that involves investing money, the best practice is to tell them everything and leave them with a warning that they should do this only at their own consent and you will not be responsible for anything that happens to their funds.

Doing that, the decision of whether they wish to join or not will be totally on themselves and you will not be guilty nor be called greedy for referring people to places where you earn money while they lose money ultimately.
There are two types of referrers. One of them don`t cares about referrals money - they post their link everywhere and get their bonuses from them without any help. Mostly it is review sites.
The second type of referrers take care their referrals, they make research of the casino, they promote, inform referrals about events and problems. They get high quality referrals, but i don`t sure that they can get more money than the first type.
Well, the first type of referrers think about the quantity and could earn more. While the second type of referrers thinks about their safety and security, they make promotions as long as they are certain that they are not promoting scam sites. But honestly, I like the 2nd type of referrers as they could not afford to lose their reputation just for the sake of money. Because this is not actually how much we earn but the thing is that we spreading the right information. And so we don't have to make people fall into referral links that can ruin their life and lost their money.
Not only you, I think most will choose the second option. Moreover, there are some referrers who value their respect than money. They will not promote any site until they are confirmed. If you see those second level people are getting both money and respect. As he is getting positively known among the people, the earnings also increase tremendously. By working with legit sites a person will reach his desired level after a certain period of time. I am also not in favor of losing my popularity for any scam scheme. Some referrer may not be able to handle the greed of money and do that but at some point, if his value is lost, he cannot move further.
If you are a type of influencer or someone who does have some followers then of course it is really just that right that you should really be mindful on what are the things that you would really be preferring or

recommending which it would really be reflecting out on what kind of influencer or a leader or something like that.If you do go aim for money solely without minding others situation and get scammed
or end up on a shady place and lose up money then for sure they would definitely be not going back on looking on you but rather be switching it up to other places.
Its true that once value is lost then you wouldnt be able to get it back.
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April 12, 2023, 10:29:11 PM
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When we always make a deposit, we always get a gambling bonus as far as I know, but I'm not sure if it's always or just once.
As far as I know, it varies, which means that it could be both. There are referral bonuses which you will only get a one-time bonus for bringing them in to the casino. On the other hand some casinos do it by giving you bonuses which is based from the lose of your referrals. Furthermore, if I'm correct, there are some that apply both concepts to their referral system.

At some points I had to have a rethink and later had to agree with OP that most times refert bonuses aren't worth it because I don't see any reason why I have to work so hard only to get what might be even enough to stake or bet on the next game and most times these casinos make the bonuses very huge and make the processes very hard.
I wouldn't say referral bonuses are total waste of time because there are people who are already earning so high from referrals.
Sometimes ago I tried claiming some referral bonuses and I was fortunate enough to claim their bonus after my lecturer registered on the casino using my referral link.

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April 12, 2023, 10:37:39 PM
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Not only you, I think most will choose the second option. Moreover, there are some referrers who value their respect than money. They will not promote any site until they are confirmed. If you see those second level people are getting both money and respect. As he is getting positively known among the people, the earnings also increase tremendously. By working with legit sites a person will reach his desired level after a certain period of time. I am also not in favor of losing my popularity for any scam scheme. Some referrer may not be able to handle the greed of money and do that but at some point, if his value is lost, he cannot move further.
This is the way it should be but in a great deal of the cases this is not what happens, influencers deep down know that they cannot keep doing this for a long time, since even if they are popular now there is no guarantee they will still be popular a few years down the line, so they are always thinking on how to maximize the profits they can obtain, and if this means promoting less than stellar casinos so be it, as they know sooner or later they will have to change their career path anyway.

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April 12, 2023, 10:47:57 PM
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Honestly it is not easy for us to be getting referral bonuses couple with the stress that is involved. As a gambler I think there are many ways we can keep having bonuses apart form referral bonus if we are not for the stress that is involved. I mostly concentrate on the ability for me to win consistently which is the goal of every gambler.
 I would rather update my strategy and make sure that I do something that is very unique predicting games with friends to get there own opinion about what I think and how I wanna make a better gambling.
 For those of us that see referral bonus as something difficult to achieve because we don't have a group or we are not influencer that can easily lure people to a betting platform without stress or having to convince them much.









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April 13, 2023, 12:38:05 PM
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If you want whales to be able to voluntarily join using the referrals we provide, then you have to be with a big and trusted casino.
If we only rely on honest reviews but we promote casinos that are still said to be small and new on the way to eligibility then it is impossible for whales to join voluntarily without any reason.
Whales gamble using large amounts of money, so the thing that Pope prioritizes the most is a large, trusted casino with a good reputation so that the money he deposits for betting can get a guarantee of security.
After all I'm sure the whales already have casinos that they rely on and trust i so to get whales when doing affiliate is quite difficult and almost impossible.
Using big and trusted casinos to spread referral links is recommended because it will make whales believe we are in the right casino. Providing honest reviews and maybe also live videos while we are playing will provide an understanding to the people who see that we are trying to be honest in providing information. Even though they haven't joined us yet, at least they have gotten some information from us. And it is true that the whales must have had their own favorite casino where they used to gamble.
Having a whale sign up under your referral link of a casino that you've spread around is totally a game of luck and there is literally nothing you can do to make that happen. All you do is just send your link all around and post it wherever you can with the hope that a few users might use it and sign up so that you can get some referral bonus out of it.

Now, if you are too lucky, maybe a whale finds out the casino by clicking on your referral link and if they like it, they might create their account and start playing there under you. That happens only to the luckiest people, and they earn a lot when that happens only from referral bonuses.

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April 13, 2023, 02:29:17 PM
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If you want whales to be able to voluntarily join using the referrals we provide, then you have to be with a big and trusted casino.
If we only rely on honest reviews but we promote casinos that are still said to be small and new on the way to eligibility then it is impossible for whales to join voluntarily without any reason.
Whales gamble using large amounts of money, so the thing that Pope prioritizes the most is a large, trusted casino with a good reputation so that the money he deposits for betting can get a guarantee of security.
After all I'm sure the whales already have casinos that they rely on and trust i so to get whales when doing affiliate is quite difficult and almost impossible.
Using big and trusted casinos to spread referral links is recommended because it will make whales believe we are in the right casino. Providing honest reviews and maybe also live videos while we are playing will provide an understanding to the people who see that we are trying to be honest in providing information. Even though they haven't joined us yet, at least they have gotten some information from us. And it is true that the whales must have had their own favorite casino where they used to gamble.
Having a whale sign up under your referral link of a casino that you've spread around is totally a game of luck and there is literally nothing you can do to make that happen. All you do is just send your link all around and post it wherever you can with the hope that a few users might use it and sign up so that you can get some referral bonus out of it.

Now, if you are too lucky, maybe a whale finds out the casino by clicking on your referral link and if they like it, they might create their account and start playing there under you. That happens only to the luckiest people, and they earn a lot when that happens only from referral bonuses.
Yes, let's say that we are searching without the burden and continue to spread the referral link because one day, there will be people we don't know who will join through the referral link we share. And perhaps the whales are looking for a new casino that they will use to gamble. Everything is possible so if we are really serious about spreading it, we can get it.

And if we manage to get one whale, it's a very nice prize because the whales are probably playing for big money, especially if they like the casino. We will get a referral bonus from the whales for inviting them to join the casino. So make sure we only use trusted casinos that pay our bonuses.
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April 15, 2023, 05:34:08 AM
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Honestly it is not easy for us to be getting referral bonuses couple with the stress that is involved. As a gambler I think there are many ways we can keep having bonuses apart form referral bonus if we are not for the stress that is involved. I mostly concentrate on the ability for me to win consistently which is the goal of every gambler.
 I would rather update my strategy and make sure that I do something that is very unique predicting games with friends to get there own opinion about what I think and how I wanna make a better gambling.
 For those of us that see referral bonus as something difficult to achieve because we don't have a group or we are not influencer that can easily lure people to a betting platform without stress or having to convince them much.

Exactly mate and it is more better we invest our time in developing our personal gambling strategies to comb in more profits rather than waiting on making good more through referral bonuses and I always tell people that it is very rare to get a neutral persons who make any tangible or perhaps reasonable amount of money from referral bonuses or just any gambling bonuses  and I've also noticed that most of the bonuses in gambling have some very strict wagering requirements that makes claiming these referral bonuses more difficult to claim and most times, you ate required to gamble upto 10 times your deposit and bonus amount to be able to make withdrawals and I think that is just crazy.
Referral bonuses aren't just worth the time and stress it comes with especially for the common man who doesn't have any community of persons(a niche)

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April 15, 2023, 05:30:55 PM
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Referral can be a good way to make some fast money if you have a good number of people waiting for your call, the best way to attract lots of people is by using your referral link through affiliate marketing or if you already build your group up with many people who trusted you, this is the only way to make something good out of referral link. So this referral thing isn't for everyone to say the truth.

Some referral tasks come with terms and conditions like, your referrals need to make a certain amount of trades, gambles, or deposits too, which makes this whole idea not for everyone. For many, it's very challenging.
That's the whole point of everyone benefiting from this deal.Casinos are primarily interested in new players who will constantly bring him profit and are ready to share with the player who brought him in.I have not yet been able to invite a player from whom I would receive good commissions, but I I know people who are successful in this.
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April 15, 2023, 07:20:27 PM
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Usually every influencer has checked the rules and bonuses from referrals from each gambling and they tend to target big bonuses from top casino sites, so the solution to get big bonuses must get several whales to register accounts through the referral link that has been shared, even though it's hard to get whales but make sure you get several active referrals and consistently you will get results for additional funds to gamble.
It will be a challenge for the user especially to find the whales invest in what you are sharing. If you have big followers on Social Media, it could be a solution to get more, because there is a bigger market. But, it only works if the casino you have shared has a bigger name also, If still new, the possibility to get more is the same as you shared here. Because some casino use influencer which has a Million followers to reach out the new user, the casino need established figures like Ronaldo, Kylie Jenner,  Dwayne Johnson and etc. But of course to get what you do want, you must spend money on marketing.
I guess that’s how social media works in gambling, particularly in attracting whales that will actively play in the gambling site. Yes, if you have good number of followers, this will be possible but they should also be active gamblers, otherwise you will only get a small amount of referral bonus. And make sure that what you are promoting is legit and reputable site, otherwise you will be blamed by these people once they got scam in the end. That’s the reason why some gamblers just don’t give it a damn referring or convincing.
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April 15, 2023, 07:31:37 PM
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The question I have being meaning to ask is, what is the possibility of one referee being active and a whale player but the referral is not that active say the one you referred wagers a high amount and can accumulate a lot of wagering benefits to the person that he registered under the link.

But the person on the other have is not active in wagering and he falls way below his referee what is the chance of him getting his referral rewards, will not wager affects his earning or the casino will pay him regardless?

This question has been running through my head for a while now and I will be glad if any can give me in-depth explanations and information to help my understanding of the referral payment and how the system works.
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That's the whole point of everyone benefiting from this deal.Casinos are primarily interested in new players who will constantly bring him profit and are ready to share with the player who brought him in.I have not yet been able to invite a player from whom I would receive good commissions, but I I know people who are successful in this.

Yep, is a good deal for all, it's a good deal for the casinos because it's a way to bring more users, and is a good deal for the users because the ones who are good at their public relations can get some nice profit from it. If we see some streamers like Train betting millions is because they wins just too much form their affiliates. Just imagine to be the man with more casino affiliates in the world, is like a money-printing machine.

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April 15, 2023, 09:00:04 PM
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I guess that’s how social media works in gambling, particularly in attracting whales that will actively play in the gambling site. Yes, if you have good number of followers, this will be possible but they should also be active gamblers, otherwise you will only get a small amount of referral bonus. And make sure that what you are promoting is legit and reputable site, otherwise you will be blamed by these people once they got scam in the end. That’s the reason why some gamblers just don’t give it a damn referring or convincing.
It is very difficult to get active gambler followers if we don't have the ability to promote gambling sites, other people will not use our referral link because they can follow the official site directly without a referral link code, so think of something that can make active gamblers follow your account and they will monitor your posting history because they are interested in every gambling concept that you explain, we must have the appearance of senior gamblers to share the potential opportunities to win from each bet.


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It's really waste if you're doing referral, I experienced it because I try some gambling site and they have referral(bonus coin) and it's not worth it. For example, you need to invite like 50 people to get $15 worth of coin. See? Everything now is not free so work hard for yourself and don't waste your life doing referral or some things just to get freebie with no value.

It is free as long as you dont have to spend a single cent, if you need to invite some people to get the bonus but you say it is not free then how referral bonus should work? I'm not sure which casino that give you bonus coin for referring people, can you mention the casino here? I have never heard any casino give us bonus just by inviting people only and the bonus has no value at all. Even if it is true, means that it is your own mistake to invite people for nothing. In short, you decided to participate in the worst referral program while there are some other better program that gives you good chance to earn decent amount of money if you can refer active players/whales.
You are right, there must always be some kind of associated effort/work, not everything is free, I know that at least those who are invited as referrals, in order for the player to be paid, the referral has to make a deposit, play, and be active, I think That this would be enough for a casino to give recognition to the person who takes it, because first they deposit and play second, so that is already a profit for the casino, obviously they need to have their bonus, otherwise, I think it would not make sense if they did not comply with these requirements, because otherwise, it would not be a good business for you players who are looking for people.

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April 18, 2023, 09:19:14 PM
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Referral can be a good way to make some fast money if you have a good number of people waiting for your call, the best way to attract lots of people is by using your referral link through affiliate marketing or if you already build your group up with many people who trusted you, this is the only way to make something good out of referral link. So this referral thing isn't for everyone to say the truth.

Some referral tasks come with terms and conditions like, your referrals need to make a certain amount of trades, gambles, or deposits too, which makes this whole idea not for everyone. For many, it's very challenging.
That's the whole point of everyone benefiting from this deal.Casinos are primarily interested in new players who will constantly bring him profit and are ready to share with the player who brought him in.I have not yet been able to invite a player from whom I would receive good commissions, but I I know people who are successful in this.

I've also heard of people who have had success from this referral bonus and it's still running today, from a marketing perspective, referral bonuses are a pretty good marketing strategy.
I managed to bring several people using my referral link on my local exchange, and because members who use my referral link are quite active, I get a very good reward even though it's not stable.
if you see you have the ability to attract people using the casino - exchange or any platform that can give you referral bonuses for free (without you having to pay referral fees) then why don't you give it a try and make it your side-hustle income.



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April 18, 2023, 09:31:32 PM
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It`s been said often enough, just to make sure, I will repeat it - referral programs aren`t the same as affiliate programs, even though many people mix it up. Wink Even operators sometimes fail to realize that there is a difference. Wink

Anyway, are you guys aware of the fact there even are gambling affiliates that are listed on stock exchanges? Smiley Money can be made...  Wink
I quite agree with you on this, referral program is different from affiliate marketing but in practices both at inseparable since the primary aim of both programs in to attract players to the casino and those involved getting paid to do so.

But I will also love it if you can take out time to explain in detail what both referral and affiliate means in your own understanding. I will love to read your comment on this because I believe you have a better understanding of these terms more than many of us here.
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It`s been said often enough, just to make sure, I will repeat it - referral programs aren`t the same as affiliate programs, even though many people mix it up. Wink Even operators sometimes fail to realize that there is a difference. Wink

Anyway, are you guys aware of the fact there even are gambling affiliates that are listed on stock exchanges? Smiley Money can be made...  Wink
I quite agree with you on this, referral program is different from affiliate marketing but in practices both at inseparable since the primary aim of both programs in to attract players to the casino and those involved getting paid to do so.

But I will also love it if you can take out time to explain in detail what both referral and affiliate means in your own understanding. I will love to read your comment on this because I believe you have a better understanding of these terms more than many of us here.
Doesnt need to be asking out if you could be able to read up on your own via making some google search.

The key difference is that affiliate marketing focuses on third-party brand advocates to send customers to your business for a flat fee. Where referral marketing is focused on rewarding current customers to invite their friends to try your product/service.

Source: https://www.saasquatch.com/blog/rs-referral-marketing-vs-affiliate-marketing/

Overall they do still share on the same intent or plans which is to hook up players on a certain site that they are promoting.

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April 18, 2023, 10:33:42 PM
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Overall they do still share on the same intent or plan which is to hook up players on a certain site that they are promoting.
Thanks for sharing that link More read up on the terms,  and just like I said earlier, I was not familiar with both words and I was confused both meant that the individuals involved must be a customer of the casino and have to share some links for that purpose if they must link those he introduced to his profile for Payment.

But from the last paragraph can see that the affiliate marketer must not necessarily be a player in the casino to end their income since they are being paid a fixed fee for their services.
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April 18, 2023, 10:55:19 PM
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In my opinion, I think referral bonuses are typically waste of one's time because of its processes that seems so impossible to claim and recently I came across a thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5437603.0 seeking for Casinos with paid referral bonuses and I tool out time to read most of the responses there and they all seem impossible to claim referral bonuses.
I wish to know if anyone has successfully claimed referral bonuses and how easy was the process and what Casino did you claim those bonuses
In fact I have not wasted time on referrals so far. Getting bonus by referral is a complete waste of time. For example I create account to another person with my referral but if he doesn't complete all the tasks as per the rules then I won't get that referral bonus. After that if he completes everything but doesn't deposit and place bets in the casino then I won't get the referral bonus. Making money by referral is very difficult for a person. In some cases there are rules which are very difficult for a human being to fulfill. People go a long way and then fail. Basically referrals are a complete waste of time.
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April 20, 2023, 09:44:01 PM
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I guess that’s how social media works in gambling, particularly in attracting whales that will actively play in the gambling site. Yes, if you have good number of followers, this will be possible but they should also be active gamblers, otherwise you will only get a small amount of referral bonus. And make sure that what you are promoting is legit and reputable site, otherwise you will be blamed by these people once they got scam in the end. That’s the reason why some gamblers just don’t give it a damn referring or convincing.
Making a living out of referrals is not something which can be easily accomplished since the conversion rate is very low, on average you could get 10k viewers and only one may follow through your link, and with such a low conversion rate you will need millions of viewers to make a decent amount of money, and if they do not gamble regularly then all your efforts could be for nothing, giving some validity to the statements of the OP about referrals being a waste of time for most people.

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