How much return are we expecting next bull run?

[Baofeng]

Have been in crypto just over a year now so have yet to experience a bull market and up till now I have just bought and held.

Currently my portfolio is 10% down and am not planning on selling any until I 2x at least.

Bitcoin takes up 30% of my portfolio with the rest in altcoins.

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

Taking into consideration the last all time high? and like multiplying it with 2.5-2.6x (based on the last numbers that we are getting every 4 year high), maybe we can see a rough estimate as how big the next bull run will be in 2024/25. So maybe around $100k-$200k (this is a guess or estimate).

I'm not sure though why your portfolio just takes 30% of BTC. On the contrary, perhaps majority here could have more BTC in their pocket like 60% or more and then the rest is altcoins. Anyhow, yeah, we are still far from the next bull run, bitcoin halving is around last week of March to first week of April, so still have 12 months of continuing to DCA and stack sats. And then after the we can still accumulate even in the bull market. But obviously the time is right now since the price is still very cheap and easy to acquire.

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[blockman]

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

For bitcoin? I'd expect 2x-3x of gain but not that much of 10x but who knows if that's going to be seen. So, if we're to calculate that 10x gain from now on so that would be around $200k-$280k for the next bull run.
That seems to be a lot but that's possible although our only contender is to know if that's gonna be seen once we're back on the bull run because if not, then we're good at whatever it is right now and you might get that 10x gain from the other investments that you've got on your portfolio. But my hope is that if bitcoin reaches $100k then I'd be good already with that and whatever gain that's going to come after that is already a bonus.

[milewilda]

Have been in crypto just over a year now so have yet to experience a bull market and up till now I have just bought and held.

Currently my portfolio is 10% down and am not planning on selling any until I 2x at least.

Bitcoin takes up 30% of my portfolio with the rest in altcoins.

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

Better not to make yourself expecting on a particular point but its not bad to have those selling goals or border line on which you would consider on releasing it out.We do know that there's no specific target point on which the price could reach out on bull run times. This is why its better to diversify as much as you could if you had touched up altcoins too. Some do even considering on getting some low caps which could potentially be able to get 10-100x of the price but somehow it is really that risky to dive in but there are actually projects which are hidden gems which would really be possibly to be pumped up on this upcoming bull run.
There's no assurance though thats why dont really expect something like that so you wont really be that disappointed when the time comes and it didnt happened.

[Woodie]

Unfortunately am not a hodler waiting for one big payday.

 I have found that what works best for me is all about paying yourself whenever opportunity arises to avoid holding on to losses or waiting for high returns which take forever..think of this has been a scalper which is a slow process but steady profits and in the long run does pay.

Have been in crypto just over a year now so have yet to experience a bull market and up till now I have just bought and held.

Cashing in does have to be about bull runs only, if one invests the time to learn how to read charts opportunities on these charts are everywhere but with the right strategy and risk management.

[EdenHazard]

Unfortunately am not a hodler waiting for one big payday.

 I have found that what works best for me is all about paying yourself whenever opportunity arises to avoid holding on to losses or waiting for high returns which take forever..think of this has been a scalper which is a slow process but steady profits and in the long run does pay.

Have been in crypto just over a year now so have yet to experience a bull market and up till now I have just bought and held.

Cashing in does have to be about bull runs only, if one invests the time to learn how to read charts opportunities on these charts are everywhere but with the right strategy and risk management.

True , better to grab $1000 monthly on 10% profit rather than looking to get $100k profit on 100% with 24 months waiting .. that's how i do the math and that's what works for me so far , haven't got that luck to have 30000% profit like any other people though.

The bull run might won't stop now , but seeing your porto on green ... that's the best moment to cash them out. Nothing more to expect.

[GreatArkansas]

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What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

I don't think it will be in 2025. Because in my own opinion, it will start this year, but I am not sure when maybe the last quarter of this year.
And since the Bitcoin block halving will happen in 2024. That's the time I can say that there will be a lot of money will flow in the cryptocurrency market, and I believe new all-time high will be coming on year 2023-2024 range.

[irhact]

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

The least expectation is $100k per Bitcoin. This was the price predicted for last bull market but Bitcoin couldn't achieved that price. It now has to be moved to the next having that's incoming in 2024. Bitcoin trading at $100k isn't unrealistic because it reach a peak of $60k and above in the previous bull market that happened in 2021.

Therefore Bitcoin going back to that price and surpassing it won't be very difficult to achieved. With its current price a 10x is going to take us to $200k which isn't likely to happen. 10x can only come if the price falls further down and reach a new low. The $17k low can give us a 10x in the next bull market.

[Silberman]

Have been in crypto just over a year now so have yet to experience a bull market and up till now I have just bought and held.

Currently my portfolio is 10% down and am not planning on selling any until I 2x at least.

Bitcoin takes up 30% of my portfolio with the rest in altcoins.

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

Taking into account the clues you are giving it seems you are expecting for the price of bitcoin to reach 300k, and while such level is not impossible to reach, it is too high if you ask me, a price twice as high as the previous all time high seems like a good enough level for me, this would mean a price of 140k to 150k for each bitcoin and profits of 5x to you, and if this is not enough for you the altcoins on your portfolio could help you to increase your profits even further, but this could be true only if those altcoins are any good.

[xSkylarx]

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What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

I don't think it will be in 2025. Because in my own opinion, it will start this year, but I am not sure when maybe the last quarter of this year.
And since the Bitcoin block halving will happen in 2024. That's the time I can say that there will be a lot of money will flow in the cryptocurrency market, and I believe new all-time high will be coming on year 2023-2024 range.

Let's hope that it is the same as the past halving and that the price increases. It will begin to decline in the fourth quarter of the year before halving. Then, during and after the procedure, it will take a few months, 4 to 5 months, before it begins to rise again. This was the case before, and I hope all of us can ride this wave. That is why I started to store bitcoin right now, as I do spend part of my salary on it.

[bitterguy28]

Have been in crypto just over a year now so have yet to experience a bull market and up till now I have just bought and held.

Currently my portfolio is 10% down and am not planning on selling any until I 2x at least.

Bitcoin takes up 30% of my portfolio with the rest in altcoins.

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

just like what have said in your recent post (and actually almost the same context as this)

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5436131.msg61626592#msg61626592


maybe you should learn from that as you have been here almost a year now, better not to wait to being tagged by red just because of your ignorance or your denial to understand what have been said on you.


this is a market of speculation so no matter what we said here? yet this will not change what to come for the next bull run.

[Bollexz1]

Well done lad but you probably might not see the kind of profits that would suit you in bitcoin until after its halving which is programmed to happen in 2024. So it would advise to diverse a proportion of the remaining 70% of altcoins into more altcoins. There are numerous projects out there you can invest in, you just need to give a good insight.

[Merit.s]

No one can predict the accurate price of bitcoin in the next ATH,but the best thing to do is for you to have a price target which you will be selling. Immediately bitcoin has reached your price target during the bull run,you can sell some portion of your bitcoin and wait again to buy at the next bear market. It is wise for you to invest on a long term investment so that you can make profit out of your investment. There are some strong altcoins out there which the price do have a good pump,if you are holding such then they will be profitable to you when the price pump. I don't like any other crptocurrency apart from bitcoin because it is the superior of all and can withstand harsh economy.

[ethereumhunter]

Hopefully, in the next bull run, the price can increase so much and exceed $60k that you can sell it at that price. Many people say or predict that the price of bitcoin can increase up to $100k, and you can also place a sell order at that number.

Our portfolios have dipped, but these are only temporary because the upswings are bound to happen again, and we can start earning big profits again. So for now, I hope you can be patient because the market will still be moving up and down again. And you can also buy bitcoin again at this price before the price increases.

[JamesDaniel90]

Just to clear things up , I am not expecting a 10x return on Bitcoin next bull run I meant 10x return on my overall portfolio.

It could be less but it could also be a lot higher if one of the altcoins I hold really does pump.

I am currently even on a few of the altcoins I hold and thinking of moving them into Bitcoin so that I can make Bitcoin around 50% of my portfolio.

I think Bitcoin will hit around $120k in 2025 but that will not be enough for me to sell I would rather accumulate more to the point where I own almost one full Bitcoin and then sell it in the 2029 bull run when I think will the price will be around $350k or more.

[Mpamaegbu]

Have been in crypto just over a year now so have yet to experience a bull market and up till now I have just bought and held.

Currently my portfolio is 10% down and am not planning on selling any until I 2x at least.

It's not a surprise that you're down, for those who bought last year bought slightly higher than what its price is at the moment. Don't panic, it's nothing to be worried about. Patience makes all things right when it comes to Bitcoin. My first experience of bull rally and its subsequent bear in 2017/18 was a frightening one. I couldn't imagine that at $18k+ Bitcoin could later dip to $3,200. It nevertheless still rose from that crash and hit $68k+ in 2021. My belief is that it will repeat the same thing it did in the past and new price will be set above $68k+

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

I expect price to go well past $120k in this coming bull rally.

[Lucius]

10x on my portfolio not Bitcoin price. Bitcoin will only hit max $150k next bull run which is only a 5x which is why you need altcoins in your portfolio.

You can speculate on the price of BTC, but you cannot be sure that it will not be worth more than $150k or that it will reach less than $100k. No matter how much you rely on past performance and patterns, the fact is that emerging factors such as pandemic, war and inflation along with the recent failures of large banks can significantly affect the global market, which includes the price of Bitcoin.

Some altcoins pumped 10-20x last month alone, Bitcoin does that is 5-10 years 

Look, I'm not saying that you can't profit from trading with altcoins, but that it's about the fact that there are fast pump&dump schemes where you have to react quickly. The fact that overall you are in a loss of 10% while Bitcoin went from $15k+ to $28k+ in just a few months speaks for itself. If you really aim for profits of x20 and more, then you have no choice but to look for an alternative to Bitcoin.

[LogitechMouse]

Have been in crypto just over a year now so have yet to experience a bull market and up till now I have just bought and held.

Currently my portfolio is 10% down and am not planning on selling any until I 2x at least.

Most of us are down especially those who bought last year or 2 years ago.
However, if you bought at near the bottom of the market last year then currently you are in a profit since the market has recovered since then. Currently, my portfolio is down at around 30%-40%. Not bad knowing what happened last year.

Bitcoin takes up 30% of my portfolio with the rest in altcoins.

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

My Bitcoin allocation has been 50%. 40% has been on 2 altcoins namely Ethereum and Cardano, and the remaining 10% are those lower market cap altcoins.

Hmmmmmm. TBH, I can't think of a number where I'm enough whenever it reaches that price. Maybe if my portfolio doubled or even 2.5x when the bull run comes then I will do Dollar-Cost Averaging on selling. I don't want to do the same thing that I did 2 years ago where I just watched the market up, and didn't sell a portion of my portfolio until my potential profits slowly is going away.

[Nrcewker]

In the next bull run, I am expecting Bitcoins to reach a new all time high price, so if we measure the price from the current price, then definitely it will be like almost 3x of the price. But as I said earlier, if we greed for more profits then definitely we gonna take any wrong step and for that reason we will make mistakes also, so don’t expect too much from the Bitcoins now. Observe the market and graph and invest accordingly. Set a lower withdrawal target and make a withdraw instantly when you reach that target.

[DOH!]

After bitcoin went into recession with 4.5x drop from ath to 15k bottom, most of my altcoins suffered much bigger losses.  Now bitcoin has made a strong recovery on the upside, some of the alts I hold have also achieved bullish rebounds.  I remain confident and have long-term goals for my portfolio.  Of course, my expectation is that when bitcoin hits ATH its next bull run , my altcoin portfolio will recover 20x to cover capital + profit.  maybe it won't be as greedy as 1000x for example, but I'm pretty confident and expect to achieve this goal

[Bitcoin2009]

I'm sure if March can touch $30k then April can go up 2x or close to the ATH that happened at the end of 2021, of course all of these things can happen if there are no obstacles like what happened in 2022, namely the many scam cases including top exchanges FTX.