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September 23, 2023, 08:37:58 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
The government have the right to help the citizens and end poverty but due to the constitution, it will be very hard for the government to put an end to poverty. We ourselves, we need to try to make good investment that will pave way for us I'm the future.

The government are not interested to help anybody to become self sufficient and live a better lifestyle. There are so many things that cam lead to poverty which include war especially like the one of Ukraine and Russia, if things are not being regulated properly, it will be difficult for the people to overcome poverty and live a good lifestyle. The government has nothing to offer to us than to take the little we have.









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September 23, 2023, 09:16:22 PM
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I agree with you. Both the people and the government have their own responsibilities to fulfill if we want to see changes in the issue of poverty. The government holds a responsibility to protect and properly govern the people and the people, on the other hand, needs to make sure that they are also utilizing the opportunities given to them as the government cannot individually look after their people.
This must exist in the consciousness of each individual who wants change in the problem of poverty, because in general everyone must be aware that the government only provides general protection for all the people it leads. Meanwhile, the people must also be aware that every very detailed change will occur through the results of their own efforts consistently enough to be able to overcome the problem of poverty. At least to himself and the people around him.

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September 23, 2023, 10:42:14 PM
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I agree with you. Both the people and the government have their own responsibilities to fulfill if we want to see changes in the issue of poverty. The government holds a responsibility to protect and properly govern the people and the people, on the other hand, needs to make sure that they are also utilizing the opportunities given to them as the government cannot individually look after their people.
This must exist in the consciousness of each individual who wants change in the problem of poverty, because in general everyone must be aware that the government only provides general protection for all the people it leads. Meanwhile, the people must also be aware that every very detailed change will occur through the results of their own efforts consistently enough to be able to overcome the problem of poverty. At least to himself and the people around him.

I highly agree that one improvement only relies on his own self.  The government can only offer opportunity and the person is the one who must take advantage of this opportunity to elevate his level of living.  Aside from that, an individual should adopt and learn to adapt to whatever changes on his environment is.  If he fails to adopt, he will be left behind, and if he fails to adapt he won't survive.  Thus to get away from poverty requires smart and critical thinking, hard work, patience and perseverance.  So each individual having these kinds of traits can help the government to eliminate or minimize poverty.  It is a matter of cooperative actions between the government and its citizens.

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September 24, 2023, 10:05:21 AM
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The government are not interested to help anybody to become self sufficient and live a better lifestyle. There are so many things that cam lead to poverty which include war especially like the one of Ukraine and Russia, if things are not being regulated properly, it will be difficult for the people to overcome poverty and live a good lifestyle. The government has nothing to offer to us than to take the little we have.

If the government has nothing to offer, but only takes something from the citizens, who exactly has to regulate situations like war? And what do you mean by "properly" in the context of war, Russia started against Ukraine?

The task of the government is not to get rid of poverty, but to create conditions in which people can earn a living. Of course, the fact that someone is poor is influenced by many factors, such as tthe state of the country's economy, origin, state of health, personal skills, but also the fact that some people simply do nothing to change their lives for the better is of no less importance. Many of them do not take advantage of the opportunities offered to them and are satisfied with the situation in which they are.


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September 25, 2023, 02:16:58 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

I am not familiar with your country, but I can say that the challenges we are facing are similar to those in yours, and the government is to blame for all of it. If the government is not to blame, then who else is? They can give the poor a job so they can put food on the table, but it is getting worse for the poor who don't have a job because how are they going to survive in the economy? We experience new prices on the products each time, but we have to keep working hard and we can't put that on front that we should be blaming them always whether they will hear our voices. Every month gas prices are rising in my country, and all these protests are doing nothing to change that if the government means what they are doing, there will be no change of their mind until the time they like to see the poor have suffered enough.
The government to create jobs isn't the solution for the economical crisis. The money they will use to pay employees' wages come from another citizens. The more employees the government has, the higher are going to be the taxes for everyone to pay. It's better that the government decreases its costs maximum as possible, so they can keep taxes low for citizens to pay.

The government can't be fully blamed for the crisis, because there are external factors in this case, which is the war between Ukraine and Russia, but they can be partially blamed for not sharing the burden with their people. Since life is expensive for everyone, governments should be the first to rule by the example, decreasing wages from politicians and government's members.

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September 25, 2023, 05:49:50 PM
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I grew up in New York City and saw tens of thousands of
poor homeless people  . I am in a less crowded spot now but there are dozens of homeless near my area.
I have witnessed to poor in every state in the usa i visited. say 25 states.
I have seen poor people in every asian country I have been in.
so i simply think they will not go away.

Here's a little clarification. Are you sure that these people are poor, let's say, as a result of the wrong actions of the government?
The thing is that I once communicated with a wonderful foundation in the USA, which feeds, shoes, clothes and helps with medicines for the homeless. And the poor are really a huge segment of society. BUT !
I asked - you have so many "hands", can't you place an order for the most rudimentary work for them with American companies? For companies it's cheap labor, unskilled but for some jobs it's good enough. For the "poor" - it is a job, an opportunity to realize themselves, and even possibly change their lives. Do you know what the answer was? "They won't work, they are satisfied with everything, it's their way of life". Don't forget about state benefits for the unemployed....

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September 25, 2023, 06:04:41 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
the role of government in ending poverty in a country is the one that has the strongest influence after that, then we ourselves (just look at the countries with the highest incomes in the world, they have competent governments and well-targeted policies).  the prices of basic necessities are created because of politics, the price of oil is also created because politics and health and education costs are also created because of politics, essentially everything related to the economy in a country is created because of politics.  but, we must not completely depend on the government for our fate, we must also work hard to create our own opportunities and future.

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September 25, 2023, 07:05:02 PM
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Both sides have their own responsibilities. The government needs to create more jobs for youth and build up a business-friendly environment so that new businesses and startups can grow. A competitive market can bring more job opportunities and ideas, which can solve the unemployment problem in a country. We need to train ourselves to take advantage of these opportunities so that we can be financially stable.

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September 26, 2023, 10:31:42 AM
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I grew up in New York City and saw tens of thousands of
poor homeless people  . I am in a less crowded spot now but there are dozens of homeless near my area.
I have witnessed to poor in every state in the usa i visited. say 25 states.
I have seen poor people in every asian country I have been in.
so i simply think they will not go away.

Here's a little clarification. Are you sure that these people are poor, let's say, as a result of the wrong actions of the government?
The thing is that I once communicated with a wonderful foundation in the USA, which feeds, shoes, clothes and helps with medicines for the homeless. And the poor are really a huge segment of society. BUT !
I asked - you have so many "hands", can't you place an order for the most rudimentary work for them with American companies? For companies it's cheap labor, unskilled but for some jobs it's good enough. For the "poor" - it is a job, an opportunity to realize themselves, and even possibly change their lives. Do you know what the answer was? "They won't work, they are satisfied with everything, it's their way of life". Don't forget about state benefits for the unemployed....
The scenario seems complicated. Offering unskilled jobs to the needy may seem like asimple solution. The problem goes beyond unwillingness to labor, in my opinion. Mental and physical health, education, and resources all affect a person's ability to work

Most organizations want skilled workers, therefore they may be hesitant to recruit struggling people. Education and occupational training may be better long-term. It's about giving people the skills and information to obtain a job, establish a career, and improve their life. For significant change, I think it's important to address other concerns as well as employment

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Both sides have their own responsibilities. The government needs to create more jobs for youth and build up a business-friendly environment so that new businesses and startups can grow. A competitive market can bring more job opportunities and ideas, which can solve the unemployment problem in a country. We need to train ourselves to take advantage of these opportunities so that we can be financially stable.

We cannot say that one entity will perform better in order to end poverty because  government reduce unemployment and should work better in order to minimize the risk of diseases as if people will healthy they will work more hard in order to fulfil their jobs.

Same case it with citizens of a country that they should work hard physically to make the country a developed one, they should not leave their online jobs but they should also concentrate on finding job opportunity through which they will help in the economy of a country.

Government cannot keep check on everyone therefore its our responsibility to not continue such job which has adverse impact on the economy of a country and which also badly impacts other citizens.









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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

If the country is developed country,they will have enough many to introduce good schemes to their people.In addition the developed country people had an good environment to manage their expenses and earn more then the needed money.If the developing country try to introduce the schemes for their people,surely they won’t have enough money for it.The developing country government will get loan from the international funding agencies or from the world bank.This was cause for the less eradication of the poverty from the people.

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I literally don't think government can end poverty alone, we need to be their helping hands too. But, it completely depends upon the intentions of the government whether it is interested in doing good work for the society or are there just to fill their own pockets. They can't create jobs out of thin air, we must also do something so that we can also create opportunities for others and not just make money alone, because that's how a country will prosper and grow. A government can rule the country, but a citizen can make/break a country.

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September 27, 2023, 11:53:28 PM
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Many of the protesters in my country blame the government. It's visible that there's a lack of support from the government but you don't move at all times together with them. While their policies and help really helps to shortcut matters but as a person who sees the poverty line getting tougher these days and came from not so fortunate family, it is really should be you that must go up. Lucky the people that are being helped by the government but many of them wastes that opportunity like being a college full scholar but they're not finishing it. The problem at most times is on the people and the government why they end up in a bad situation. No need to blame anyone or the government, although there's an argument that we shouldn't tolerate and normalize the shortcomings of the government. Just like us, they're not perfect and the initiative should start from us because no one is there to help us, keep that mindset and stand and do what you think is gonna change your life forever.

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its always combination of both, government give ways for the poor to climb up like through scholarships and even giving a way for micro business to grow through subsidy, and then the poor who are hard working enough improving their wealth through using these means, government can't just make some lazy people become rich just because they want to be rich.
there need to be efforts in every rewards, otherwise its just complete waste of money.
therefore its not always governments faults in this regards, sometime there is already infrastructure and many things being presented by the government for the sake of growing the industry and economic sector of the country but can't really affect anything if the people themselves aren't interested in entrepreneurship.

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September 28, 2023, 02:01:48 AM
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I literally don't think government can end poverty alone, we need to be their helping hands too. But, it completely depends upon the intentions of the government whether it is interested in doing good work for the society or are there just to fill their own pockets. They can't create jobs out of thin air, we must also do something so that we can also create opportunities for others and not just make money alone, because that's how a country will prosper and grow. A government can rule the country, but a citizen can make/break a country.

The government is really doing their best to create those jobs and also provide them to  end their struggle but right now the issue of poverty is a combination of both because we also need to do it on our own. Let's say the government is encouraging us not to have a lot of children if we struggle financially so we need to use some contraceptives. The government is announcing it everywhere and also giving free contraceptives but still people are not doing their way which is why the population continues to rise as well as poverty.

It is best to not rely on the government now because you will starve if you will. Create your own opportunities because no one can help you but yourself.
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September 28, 2023, 02:21:09 AM
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its always combination of both, government give ways for the poor to climb up like through scholarships and even giving a way for micro business to grow through subsidy, and then the poor who are hard working enough improving their wealth through using these means, government can't just make some lazy people become rich just because they want to be rich.
there need to be efforts in every rewards, otherwise its just complete waste of money.
therefore its not always governments faults in this regards, sometime there is already infrastructure and many things being presented by the government for the sake of growing the industry and economic sector of the country but can't really affect anything if the people themselves aren't interested in entrepreneurship.
You are right that these two things are interdependent, if the government has provided facilities for the community but they are not used by the community then the efforts made by the government are in vain and vice versa. If the government allows its people to work on their own efforts to overcome poverty, of course there is something wrong in the government system, perhaps there are individuals from the government who only think about a group of people or enrich themselves without thinking about the people who have chosen them to be leaders and if something like this happens, I think it is better to try to develop the potential we already have so that we can get sufficient income for our own needs without depending on the government which only thinks about the interests of a group of people.

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September 28, 2023, 02:22:28 AM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
The government may running the country , but we are the one who runs our life.

Why need blame the government when you are proven to be lazy and not  doing everything to make your life wealthy.

we all have the chance to improve our living , and of course with the help of cryptocurrency specially bitcoin , then try to do your thing and let the government do theirs .

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September 28, 2023, 04:45:10 AM
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I literally don't think government can end poverty alone, we need to be their helping hands too. But, it completely depends upon the intentions of the government whether it is interested in doing good work for the society or are there just to fill their own pockets. They can't create jobs out of thin air, we must also do something so that we can also create opportunities for others and not just make money alone, because that's how a country will prosper and grow. A government can rule the country, but a citizen can make/break a country.
To be honest, I think that there should first have a government that has the right policies so the people can smoothly do their part in prosperity. Even if we say that the people should their part first, it wouldn't be of any use because without a support from the government, the people will be fighting against the crooked policies.
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September 28, 2023, 12:07:18 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

the government with all kinds of policies they can help people get out of poverty a little, they can accept foreign investment to get more job vacancies, compensate young people who haven't found work or provide free access to food and health for people who really are in that poverty line. in my country our government is quite active in maintaining the stability of the country's economy, many and the effects of the war between russia vs ukraine are no longer so pronounced, currently the big problem in our country is the unemployment rate which is still high and the government must help citizens get that.



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September 28, 2023, 12:52:40 PM
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The government have the right to help the citizens and end poverty but due to the constitution, it will be very hard for the government to put an end to poverty. We ourselves, we need to try to make good investment that will pave way for us I'm the future.

How does the constitution prevent the government from helping her citizens out of poverty, the government are there to serve and not to enrich each other with public funds. The government can passed laws and policy that'll make the country to be friendly to businesses and when they establish companies in the country, their citizens gets opportunity to be paid as they work one or multiplayer jobs. Poverty can't be totally eliminated though because it has been a part of humanity from the days of the Roman empire to modern day civilization but it can be reduced by providing job opportunities to those that are ready and willing to work. We'll always have those that prefer poverty as they're lazy and won't want to work their ways out of poverty but prefer to be sympathize with and given things. The government should use the public funds and established factories and other institution that'll create job for their citizens.

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The government are not interested to help anybody to become self sufficient and live a better lifestyle. There are so many things that cam lead to poverty which include war especially like the one of Ukraine and Russia, if things are not being regulated properly, it will be difficult for the people to overcome poverty and live a good lifestyle. The government has nothing to offer to us than to take the little we have.

I don't know much about the western world  how their politics are been played there but over here, the government intentionally leave people in poverty because it benefits them. Things aren't been done for the masses instead it's been shared with in themselves and their relatives so when they come back for reelection and give little promises they can get the votes of hungry people that'll sell their vote for chicken change so that they can eat for just few days while the politicians return to eating public funds. Poverty can be reduced when the government are interested in doing so because they're expose to unlimited resources to use in achieving structures that will help with reducing poverty in the nation.

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