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March 24, 2023, 09:25:06 PM
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When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

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I want to make a long story short based on what you are asking.It is simple,out of 100.000 million people that I am taking an example as gamblers the people who manage to hit a life changing win are very few like 5.000 or less in that 100.000 million and that in percentage my friend is very little.The people who made such life changing winnings have a ton of luck by their side and 0 skill as big wins no matter how skillful you are in sport bet rarely I have seen someone with his skill to win a ticket with 100.000 or more as an odd,while in slot machines if the game decides to favor you then the life changing event is inevitable,you only have to be bold enough to play with a reasonably high bet otherwise it is not a life changing event.

I think that all people gamble,religious and non religious as this is deep in our roots and nature,we want to become rich quick and this why very few make it in claiming and achieving a life changing bet.

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March 24, 2023, 09:25:39 PM
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When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.
I also often hear about this question. There are still doubts and ignorance about gambling. And when someone asks a question like that, basically he also doesn't have strong and good management in gambling activities. So this will actually have a bad impact. especially of course those who ask questions like this just want to focus and know about how much they can get from gambling, but they forget one thing that is very crucial, namely loss probabilities. We already understand very well how dangerous gambling is, in fact many people have lost big because of gambling, because they don't understand how to play and manage money and risks. So this makes gambling addiction which is very bad for his life and finances.

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March 24, 2023, 10:09:31 PM
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Our definition whether if gambling is good or bad usually depends on how we deal with its risk. Not everyone could be lucky in gambling so we can't say that it's good for everyone. Gambling was originally made to entertain people so we can't say that it's bad. We could either fail or succeed in gambling depending on our luck and fate.
Anyone could gamble regardless of their beliefs or religious sector. There are lots of religious leaders that gamble and it will only ruin their image if they will play abusively without control.
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March 24, 2023, 10:17:58 PM
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Our definition whether if gambling is good or bad usually depends on how we deal with its risk. Not everyone could be lucky in gambling so we can't say that it's good for everyone. Gambling was originally made to entertain people so we can't say that it's bad. We could either fail or succeed in gambling depending on our luck and fate.
Anyone could gamble regardless of their beliefs or religious sector. There are lots of religious leaders that gamble and it will only ruin their image if they will play abusively without control.

and to add, if these leaders will play publicly. their reputation for sure will go down hard. gambling is good if you know how to handle yourself. but if not, this can devastate your life, even lose your loved ones in the process.
also, on the note about religious leaders who are into gambling. they are deem to be the role models, for sure, you will question your faith if you are seeing your pastor or priest betting publicly. but more then likely, there are a lot of these leaders who are discreetly into gambling activities.

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March 24, 2023, 10:32:12 PM
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In my opinion, the issue of gambling and religion is a complex one that requires a nuanced approach. While some religious teachings condemn gambling, others may view it as a personal choice that is not necessarily sinful. As for religious leaders, I believe that they are just like any other human beings and may also engage in gambling activities. They are not saints.

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March 24, 2023, 10:33:17 PM
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Our definition whether if gambling is good or bad usually depends on how we deal with its risk. Not everyone could be lucky in gambling so we can't say that it's good for everyone. Gambling was originally made to entertain people so we can't say that it's bad. We could either fail or succeed in gambling depending on our luck and fate.
Anyone could gamble regardless of their beliefs or religious sector. There are lots of religious leaders that gamble and it will only ruin their image if they will play abusively without control.

and to add, if these leaders will play publicly. their reputation for sure will go down hard. gambling is good if you know how to handle yourself. but if not, this can devastate your life, even lose your loved ones in the process.
also, on the note about religious leaders who are into gambling. they are deem to be the role models, for sure, you will question your faith if you are seeing your pastor or priest betting publicly. but more than likely, there are a lot of these leaders who are discreetly into gambling activities.

Gambling can ruin a person's reputation especially if he is a religious teacher or leader because we all know that gambling is against religious belief and teachings. I agree that religious leaders should stand as role models so their followers and congregation will follow in their footsteps. That pastor has been selfish but maybe he has different plan for his own life but he has done his exit irresponsibly. In the first place, he should not accepted the responsibility of being a pastor if it is against his will.
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March 24, 2023, 10:43:16 PM
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When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

We usually hear good stories about gambling that gambling and betting is changing people's fortune, while actually, it is not. Most of the gamblers are losing their money in gambling. Yes, there are few who are lucky to make fortune out of it and the media is projecting them.
People get inspired by such stories and they ask a question like if they can leave the hard jobs and if gambling can fulfill their day to day expenses.



Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?


Well, i would say that everyone gambles including religious persons and scholars. Also, why do we point only to these religious people when the religion is applied on every person including you and me  Huh

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Deciding whether gambling is right or wrong for them is subjective. For non-believer to their religion will find this news as normal event because the Pastor is living on Uganda which we all know that is very hard to earn money but this is different if you are the one with same religion with them because Pastors are role model for holiness in their religion.

I will never blame the Pastor on doing gambling to earn more for his own future. Probably his earnings through his ministry is not sufficient for his daily needs especially if he has a family to feed.
You should read more carefully the news bro, it wasn't an extra mean to feed his family because he just closed his church after having made his big win of 100m NGN, Mate2237 has even opened a thread about that specific matter. In addition he won his bet thanks to a fixed game which I don't think is a moral thing approved by any church or religion. I don't know why they needed his money but I guess it was to bribe the players actually.

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March 24, 2023, 11:08:54 PM
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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet
Am a Muslim and I will be speaking for my religion alone, in my religion gambling is wrong, either you are a religion leader or not gambling is generally wrong, but to me honest with you, some religion leaders in my country do gamble because I know few of them that do gamble, actually you won't know they do gamble because they gamble only online, you will never see then visiting gambling house, some of them that knows that am a gambler do ask me for bet code, because they know I will never expose there secrets.

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March 24, 2023, 11:12:59 PM
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You should read more carefully the news bro, it wasn't an extra mean to feed his family because he just closed his church after having made his big win of 100m NGN, Mate2237 has even opened a thread about that specific matter. In addition he won his bet thanks to a fixed game which I don't think is a moral thing approved by any church or religion. I don't know why they needed his money but I guess it was to bribe the players actually.
I can't find a news source like your statement, can you show the news source that you found because he deliberately closed the church after getting a gambling win and according to the news source from the article above that he also neglected the congregation who wanted to worship on Sunday, so his behavior did not reflect a leader religion and he did what he called strict prohibitions in religion.


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March 24, 2023, 11:13:09 PM
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When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet

Religion is a concept between the heart of people and the creator. The clergy can only give advice on using certain methods. That is, they explain and describe the rituals. However, a good guide should also be on the way, because we cannot rely on a directions given to us by someone who is not on the way. Besides, I don't think gambling can be a livelihood. And I think it wouldn't be right for those who trust a clergyman to gamble. Fortunately, I deleted all brokerage firms from my life a long time ago. I am comfortable with this.

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March 24, 2023, 11:46:20 PM
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When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.
No one can ever manage their life well based on gambling. I have seen people who have tried to make a living out of gambling have had a very bad life. Maybe gambling will make you profit for some time but most of the time you will lose money. So this gambling game I never consider fit to lead life.
Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?
In answer to your question I mean gambling is prohibited for every religion. All these issues are discussed especially from the religious office. If the religious leaders who scrutinize these matters the most are the ones who favor gambling, it is completely anti-religious. Because everyone respects and loves religious leaders. Whenever people love a religious leader, that religious leader should live the love of every people. So I think religious leaders should always keep themselves safe from gambling.

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March 25, 2023, 01:00:20 AM
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When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

I never doubted that gambling could change someone's life, just as I don't doubt that playing the lottery can change someone's life.

What I doubt is that gambling or lottery can change anyone's life, I doubt that gambling can change many people's life, I doubt that gambling can change someone's life just because he wants it so much that.

There will always be a few people making a lot of money from gambling, while there will always be a lot of other people losing a lot of money from gambling.

In the middle of this, there are the people who are prudent, who play with caution in order to become one of the people who will one day win a lot of money, but without deluding themselves so much that they become one of those who will lose a lot of money. .

Which of these people would you rather be?
What would you rather believe?

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When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

I'm not sure of your point, but tell me, do you know of a specific gambling strategy that guarantees something? Is there even one? I know that so many lives have changed because of gambling, 99% for the worse, 1% for the better.

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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

If I'm not mistaken, Christians don't treat gambling as a sin. I'm not sure, though, if there is a particular Christian sect that treats gambling otherwise. Muslims, however, consider gambling as haram. However, there are still casinos in some Muslim countries.

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The right and wrong traditional dilemma. We don't even know how much the pastor gambled to win that amount. There are many ways now to make a $1 bet become a million. i.e. parlays and promotional events by gambling sites. Casinos do have slots that also have a jackpot feature. As long as a person didn't abuse the budget, I guess he is doing fine.
Now, if that money is neither yours nor a responsible way then it makes it look bad.
I don't commend this kind of acts by pastors or priests because they must be someone to look up to and to follow, but they are also humans who will have the desire to get out of their unsatisfactory lives so they try the easiest way available so I won't judge them either.

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When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet

Gambling is just that, anyone can gamble, now even if he is a pastor of a church if he even thinks about gambling it is his choice. In something like that, we can only see a lesson there.

And the lesson that I see is that the pastor seems to have made the holding of the church milky, and when he had the opportunity to have a lot of money, he was blinded by the money, he became greedy so even his responsibility in a religious group was he was able to surrender and abandon its members.


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In Catholic, it is not considered sinful unless the indulgence can no longer be controlled. I learned a preach that says people should not be too attach  in earthly things and I believe that that involves gambling.

Also, I don't think that people can make a living through gambling alone. It can be a past time or a leisure but to make a living through it, I think it would take more dedication and addiction. Some gets rich with gambling too but it's because they can afford.

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March 25, 2023, 06:19:15 AM
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When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet
gambling for me is freedom for everyone who wants to do it and there are no restrictions on who can gamble there. there are so many religious leaders who gamble in different countries and it's not even surprising that people know about it.
religious leaders who gamble but when preaching say bad things about gambling, for me it is a natural thing when a leader tries to give good advice to his followers to avoid gambling, it is not hypocrisy but only leads to a better path even though the leader does bad stuff.

and you need to know that everyone is free to do whatever they want, even if it is gambling, regardless of whether he is a religious leader or just an ordinary citizen.

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March 25, 2023, 07:55:30 AM
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That is freedom because no one can judge what they are doing by playing gambling, but behind all that it is certainly unethical if the opening religion does it just for the sake of wanting to win bigger and of course, the statement of the sermon will be slightly contradictory while the opening religion others who are against gambling will be a little different and they are pressing in a more straight forward direction.

I also won't blame their approach, they still have the freedom to do so if we as a people follow them and think again in the context that was discussed.

We must realize that gambling cannot be avoided now that it has become a daily game in society.

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March 25, 2023, 08:00:15 AM
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When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet

Pastors who gamble are not men of God. A real man of God would never get close to gambling because gambling is a sin. Some religions see nothing wrong with gambling, but the majority of them do.

If he can also quit his ministry because he won a lot of money, it indicates that he started that ministry to earn some money, just like many pastors in churches today who are mostly fake, and the fastest way to earn money is through religion, deceiving people by using God's name and corrupting their minds.

Most pastors chant the name of God for their own selfish gain, brainwashing people into fearing God, and exchanging money and fortune for their own selfish gain.

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