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March 28, 2023, 05:43:04 AM
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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?
Money makes a person's beliefs change every time in second, we can't argue this fact and his deceit. Maybe he builds the church just open collect donator funds and use it as capital for gambling because we don't know the depths of the pastor's heart. If I were people who live in that local residents, I will call the money auditors agency to audit all the Pastor's Money, because he might violate the rules like misappropriation of public funds.
Pastors are also human beings who can be tempted by worldly life.
When there is greed or the desire to get money, a person will try it and use all means to be able to have money to get what he wants.
So it was very difficult to hold back their passion when he saw an opportunity to do something bad, even though he was a priest.
And now, people don't know where the pastor went with his winnings while the pastor was enjoying his winnings.

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March 28, 2023, 06:03:31 AM
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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?
Money makes a person's beliefs change every time in second, we can't argue this fact and his deceit. Maybe he builds the church just open collect donator funds and use it as capital for gambling because we don't know the depths of the pastor's heart. If I were people who live in that local residents, I will call the money auditors agency to audit all the Pastor's Money, because he might violate the rules like misappropriation of public funds.
Pastors are also human beings who can be tempted by worldly life.
When there is greed or the desire to get money, a person will try it and use all means to be able to have money to get what he wants.
So it was very difficult to hold back their passion when he saw an opportunity to do something bad, even though he was a priest.
And now, people don't know where the pastor went with his winnings while the pastor was enjoying his winnings.

This was a pastor only for money as we saw from his story,he did not care much about his believers and he just followed his greed and desire for money.People don't know where he went but most probably he will be back as once a gambler always a gambler and as soon as he will lose the money no matter how much that money is,people will see him back with new ways of deceiving people,most likely telling them a story how God called him aside to make him a better person or something along these lines.He is now on the path of destruction and it will take just a short amount of time until we see what God has really done with him.

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March 28, 2023, 06:22:17 AM
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I grew up in Muslim community in secular but Muslim country, Türkiye. Here gambling is seen strictly immoral or haram (in Islamic culture). By the way regular physical casinos are illegal here BUT sports betting is totally legal. And funny, many young people, even ones that define themselves Muslim love to do sports betting. Its very very popular. I think all kinds of people even religious leaders can see fun in gambling but I think its probably unethical for them to gamble/bet. I am not religious person so personally I don't find it disturbing to see imam gambling.
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March 28, 2023, 06:30:13 AM
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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?
Money makes a person's beliefs change every time in second, we can't argue this fact and his deceit. Maybe he builds the church just open collect donator funds and use it as capital for gambling because we don't know the depths of the pastor's heart. If I were people who live in that local residents, I will call the money auditors agency to audit all the Pastor's Money, because he might violate the rules like misappropriation of public funds.

I don't think it's safe to general this idea that money can change the mindsets of everyone.
If they have been traces of deceit in a person's heart that's when money will take effect, and what money does is to elevate all the deceitful act and then shows what the true color of the person is.
And in the case of the pastor in Op, it's quite obvious that he never had good intentions for his congregation so all his goal was to embezzle all the money that comes into the church and use for his personal use.

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March 28, 2023, 07:00:38 AM
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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?
Money makes a person's beliefs change every time in second, we can't argue this fact and his deceit. Maybe he builds the church just open collect donator funds and use it as capital for gambling because we don't know the depths of the pastor's heart. If I were people who live in that local residents, I will call the money auditors agency to audit all the Pastor's Money, because he might violate the rules like misappropriation of public funds.
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We really don't know the motives of the pastor, if the church and his beliefs are real or just for donation sake because he wants to gamble it, but looking at it from our perspective, he closes the church after winning it, so the dark side of it really is the purpose. People will really change their minds when it comes to huge money, and for sure he is already living out of his life right now and very happy.
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March 28, 2023, 07:58:14 AM
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When some people ask questions about gambling, such as "Can someone can make a living through gambling? I don't like to engage in such conversations because those who doubt that gambling can change someone's life are usually those who have gambled and failed multiple times or those who don't really know gambling strategies.

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

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https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet

I am very quite disappointed because it will tarnish the public's trust in any religious leaders regarding this matter, because on an ethical basis a religious leader is a role model for his followers, and I am quite sure that no religion allows gambling even to make a living by relying on luck. In my opinion, this is quite immoral, even though basically a religious leader is also human like an ordinary human being who likes to make mistakes, but I can't justify it because he talks almost every day sharing love and kindness with the people he meets and even worse he stops being a religious leader is for the sake of making more money by gambling, I think working in other fields besides trying your luck on the gambling board can be tolerated.

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March 28, 2023, 09:25:08 AM
 #147

Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

I read that most churches in Africa are business so It was no surprised when I read here that the pastor closed them his church for wining 100 million shillings. Most pastors are deceiving there members, they preach one thing and does the other. They preach against gambling yet they're one of the biggest gamblers just as this story is exposing.

This won't be the pastors first bet which means he has been betting all this while they preach against it. I'm not against gambling and I don't think it's evil but then it shouldn't be abuse as when you abuse it it becomes evil. The bible says it itself that too much of everything isn't good so is gambling.

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March 28, 2023, 09:32:37 AM
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In fact, regardless of whether it's a religious leader or an ordinary citizen, people who have a lot of time or not as long as it's clear that gambling is possible can still happen. it's just that the difference in this case is when religious leaders who should know it is forbidden and they are saints actually they don't do that. But when talking about emotions and greed, of course they are also just ordinary humans who definitely have a desire for these things, so even though this is not very ethical, it is still possible for this to happen and that is probably one of the many who do this.
The point is that religious leaders are human too. Like others they also need money and want to do whatever they want but financial constraints do not allow them to realize those dreams. Because they are in a respected position in the society, they may not expose their gambling activities to the front. But they also have greed and emotion that we cannot ignore. No one has anything to say if someone is gambling secretly.
The problem is that when something like this is exposed to the outside world, not all but it is clear that the person concerned will be tarnished because it will be considered as damaging the image of a saint.
Even though I don't really deserve to say that, there will be a different stigma when someone who has a high position in religion does something like this and an ordinary person does it.
Ordinary people who do this seem understandable, but when religious leaders do the same thing, it will clearly be different in interpretation, even though they are also ordinary people who have passions and emotions.

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March 28, 2023, 10:08:15 AM
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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?
Money makes a person's beliefs change every time in second, we can't argue this fact and his deceit. Maybe he builds the church just open collect donator funds and use it as capital for gambling because we don't know the depths of the pastor's heart. If I were people who live in that local residents, I will call the money auditors agency to audit all the Pastor's Money, because he might violate the rules like misappropriation of public funds.
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We really don't know the motives of the pastor, if the church and his beliefs are real or just for donation sake because he wants to gamble it, but looking at it from our perspective, he closes the church after winning it, so the dark side of it really is the purpose. People will really change their minds when it comes to huge money, and for sure he is already living out of his life right now and very happy.
No priests or church administrators have the sole motive of obtaining donations for gambling or even enriching themselves.
So far I have never seen a pastor or church administrator who has more wealth and as long as you know they have income that is given by their followers to be able to fulfill their lives.
Initially the priest must have had noble goals and wanted to serve as a priest or religious leader, but because of the opportunity to be able to get rich, he forgot about his noble goals and promises as a priest, so he dared to make bets just to get rich.
No one can stand still when faced with the opportunity to become rich.
There are many examples of people out there who are blinded by money and this is human nature.

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March 28, 2023, 10:10:41 AM
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I grew up in Muslim community in secular but Muslim country, Türkiye. Here gambling is seen strictly immoral or haram (in Islamic culture). By the way regular physical casinos are illegal here BUT sports betting is totally legal. And funny, many young people, even ones that define themselves Muslim love to do sports betting. Its very very popular. I think all kinds of people even religious leaders can see fun in gambling but I think its probably unethical for them to gamble/bet. I am not religious person so personally I don't find it disturbing to see imam gambling.
Even though in Islam, gambling is prohibited, when there is a word for this prohibition, everyone should be able to understand. But we are only humans who cannot escape any temptation, including the temptation to play gambling. And once we can feel the fun of gambling, we will do it repeatedly even if we have to lose, and that's okay too. And indeed, gambling has succeeded in getting many people to share in the fun so that whatever their status in society, they can forget about it because there is a goal to get a lot of money from gambling.

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March 28, 2023, 10:20:51 AM
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In fact, regardless of whether it's a religious leader or an ordinary citizen, people who have a lot of time or not as long as it's clear that gambling is possible can still happen. it's just that the difference in this case is when religious leaders who should know it is forbidden and they are saints actually they don't do that. But when talking about emotions and greed, of course they are also just ordinary humans who definitely have a desire for these things, so even though this is not very ethical, it is still possible for this to happen and that is probably one of the many who do this.
The point is that religious leaders are human too. Like others they also need money and want to do whatever they want but financial constraints do not allow them to realize those dreams. Because they are in a respected position in the society, they may not expose their gambling activities to the front. But they also have greed and emotion that we cannot ignore. No one has anything to say if someone is gambling secretly.
The problem is that when something like this is exposed to the outside world, not all but it is clear that the person concerned will be tarnished because it will be considered as damaging the image of a saint.
Even though I don't really deserve to say that, there will be a different stigma when someone who has a high position in religion does something like this and an ordinary person does it.
Ordinary people who do this seem understandable, but when religious leaders do the same thing, it will clearly be different in interpretation, even though they are also ordinary people who have passions and emotions.
Yes, what @Joddy.Drummer said is the impact of what religious leaders did by playing gambling, and I agree with that, the stigma that circulates is negative thinking towards religious leaders, because basically religious leaders are average people who are wise and can solving problems peacefully and guiding people to the right path, I personally have never heard until today that religious leaders justify gambling. Apart from that he is also a human being, religious leaders should have more understanding about behavior and actions.

Sorry, maybe I feel quite disappointed because maybe I have faith in what religious leaders teach and I always follow what they do in social and business according to what they prohibit and allow, I am very disappointed about this.

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March 28, 2023, 10:32:15 AM
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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

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Asking a question like  ' Do religious leaders gamble?' will want to make us stand as judge and could lead to quick condemnation of another sake of the level of spiritual preference the have. In my own opinion religion and way of life has two opposite route. People could be religions and still stick to their passion. The idea is to be disciplined in whatever we do be it a religious leader or a religious follower. A religious person irrespective of status can go about their gambling activities provided they can be disciplined.

I believe why most religious group preach against gambling is because the fear it could become addictive and cause a problem to their doctrine, teachings and what the uphold at the same time integrity of the gambler. Some do it out of ignorance maybe because it is a norm for other religion to kick against it so some other random religion might want to join suit. For me passion shouldn't interfere with religion has long as  it can be managed and controlled.
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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?
Money makes a person's beliefs change every time in second, we can't argue this fact and his deceit. Maybe he builds the church just open collect donator funds and use it as capital for gambling because we don't know the depths of the pastor's heart. If I were people who live in that local residents, I will call the money auditors agency to audit all the Pastor's Money, because he might violate the rules like misappropriation of public funds.
Pastors are also human beings who can be tempted by worldly life.
When there is greed or the desire to get money, a person will try it and use all means to be able to have money to get what he wants.
So it was very difficult to hold back their passion when he saw an opportunity to do something bad, even though he was a priest.
And now, people don't know where the pastor went with his winnings while the pastor was enjoying his winnings.

What are the correlation between being a clergy and a gambler, they are two different things, possibly he has been gambling with the church money over time unknowingly to members, being a clergy, you must not be seen gambling even though you were once a gambler, once you have accepted this call of faith to be a clergy them the conditions attached is to stay away from some common lifestyle and you will get restricted to them, part of which is gambling, just as you can't see a king in the casino house gambling so it is except of them being a clergy.

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There are numerous religions, each with its own set of characteristics. The same is true of their attitude toward gambling. The decision of the pastor to close his own religious ministry may not be the career he wants to pursue if money is not a concern. After winning a handful of cash, the pastor can now live the life he wants. My personal opinion is that gambling within certain limits is not unethical or immoral. If this is not the case, then I find individuals that smoke cigarettes in crowded public areas to be more immoral and unethical because they are disseminating the harmful smoke.

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March 28, 2023, 01:28:48 PM
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There are numerous religions, each with its own set of characteristics. The same is true of their attitude toward gambling. The decision of the pastor to close his own religious ministry may not be the career he wants to pursue if money is not a concern. After winning a handful of cash, the pastor can now live the life he wants. My personal opinion is that gambling within certain limits is not unethical or immoral. If this is not the case, then I find individuals that smoke cigarettes in crowded public areas to be more immoral and unethical because they are disseminating the harmful smoke.

If he was an ordinary man, he could live the life he wants after the winning, I totally agree with this. But he was a pastor. He was living from other people's money before he won, probably telling them that gambling is a sin and other hypocritical stuff. I think what he should have done was giving away all the money to his parishioners, and only then leaving, if he wanted to leave the church. Since he just left, it makes him someone who walked away without paying his creditors, in my eyes.

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Recently, a Uganda pastor who won 100million shillings decided to shut down his ministry. This left me with several questions in my head, such as ' Do religious leaders gamble? Is it right for religious leaders to gamble? Knowing fully well that most of them preach against gambling in their religious places. What is the ethical and moral implications of gambling, particularly in the context of religious practices and beliefs?

News source:
https://www.reubenabati.com.ng/news/pastor-shuts-down-church-after-winning-n100m-sports-bet
The religious leader was brave enough to reveal the reason why he closed his ministry because it meant he was not ashamed of what he was doing, even though it is not a rule, but almost all of us know that in many religions gambling is always identified with something bad and forbidden, so when a religious leader does it, it is certain he was going to do it in secret because he didn't want to damage his reputation as a religious leader, but the priest gave his reasons openly.
A religious leader should not do gambling because maybe his time will run out for this activity and if he doesn't control himself he will get stuck in addiction and endanger his ministry so that his congregation will be shaken by the fact that their religious leader is not a good example to emulate, but did this story really happen? I mean if it is true maybe the congregation can investigate whether the religious leader used personal money or ministry money, which could be categorized as misappropriation because I'm doubted that this was the first time he gambled and immediately produced a big win

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The issue is that religion is not decisive or absolute for those who practice it or claim to be followers of any religion. The commandments in any religion are there, they are a guide to follow, but...! well says a saying; "we see faces but not hearts".

That is to say, individuals fail and being a pastor does not give them immunity to commit "sins", he would say that if he were to bet that someone is a good pastor, the probability for this to happen would be 50%.


This is a "strange" topic for gambling, I think it's a discussion from another board.

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Gambling was the more fun based game because of usually using the real money.The excitement based on the real money will not be satisfied by anything in the world.This is the main reason of people involved in the cock betting on the road site.Even you can get the excitement in the trading as compared to the gambling.Gambling excitement is far better then the excitement we get from the trading profit of crypto currency.

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March 28, 2023, 04:35:18 PM
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The problem is that when something like this is exposed to the outside world, not all but it is clear that the person concerned will be tarnished because it will be considered as damaging the image of a saint.
Even though I don't really deserve to say that, there will be a different stigma when someone who has a high position in religion does something like this and an ordinary person does it.
Ordinary people who do this seem understandable, but when religious leaders do the same thing, it will clearly be different in interpretation, even though they are also ordinary people who have passions and emotions.
Yes, what @Joddy.Drummer said is the impact of what religious leaders did by playing gambling, and I agree with that, the stigma that circulates is negative thinking towards religious leaders, because basically religious leaders are average people who are wise and can solving problems peacefully and guiding people to the right path, I personally have never heard until today that religious leaders justify gambling. Apart from that he is also a human being, religious leaders should have more understanding about behavior and actions.

Sorry, maybe I feel quite disappointed because maybe I have faith in what religious leaders teach and I always follow what they do in social and business according to what they prohibit and allow, I am very disappointed about this.
But indeed on the other hand we also cannot completely blame the religious leaders here, because of course these are only a small part of them and can be said to be individuals who smear but religion is not wrong about that.
This was his will and he has now quit his religion so it is between him and his god. We also cannot fully judge because we are also not saints, although it is very regrettable that something like this happens.

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March 28, 2023, 04:35:24 PM
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Gambling will not give you money immediately and but definitely.My Suggestion is don’t see the gambling as life source,instead you can do the gambling to get away from your stress.So you can away from stress from the gambling by playing liked game for certain period of time.Instead you can use the trading and special on day trading.Most of the day traders do the trading with little amount as profit.They continue the process till the desired profit reaches for the week.

In today's world, many people are stressed every day, but that doesn't mean it's the norm. I don't know if this is true or not, but I have heard that in the United States a huge number of people use antidepressants and other drugs that allow them to live without stress. But I don't think gambling can relieve stress.

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