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July 13, 2023, 04:22:44 AM
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I anticipated problems the moment he bought a Twitter account because he believed he could use it to manage Twitter in the same way he does with altcoin projects, but there is still plenty to learn. I think the prior owner of Twitter might not provide those secrets to him, and believe it or not, if further time passes without action, the previous owner will return to acquire back Elon Musk's company. His issues began when he fired those employees, who, in my opinion, formed the backbone of Twitter and were better equipped to run it than the people he now employs, not to mention the limitations he imposes on them. As for me, I never imagined he would act in such a way without first investigating the Twitter algorithm before firing any employees.
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July 13, 2023, 05:50:59 AM
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Everytime I click on a crypto related trending topic the first thing I see is scammers and bots with blue checkmarks at the top of the results. Allowing random people to pay for greater visibility has ruined the user experience. It's hard to find useful information among all the trash blue checkmark accounts that pay their way into users' feeds. That's just one of many issues plaguing the site since Musk's takeover.

It's crystal clear that Twitter has been declining since Mr Musk took over. 
With $8 a month, you can have a verified account on Twitter.  That's absurd when you think about the fact that a lot of people get information from Twitter Usually this information comes from verified accounts and for you to be a verified account you have to be vetting and to an extent.
I can get a blue tick today and proceed to scam people with it because some don't understand that a blue tick today just means how long you can keep paying $8.
Aside from that,  the app just keeps recycling the same tweets for you even after you refresh.  You see tweets from people you don't follow and accounts you don't have an interest in.  You don't even see tweets of your mutual the way you used to anymore. 
I believe Musk will find a way to keep his app to keep generating money for him but if any of the newly launched apps stays long enough at this rate,  it might take over the market from Twitter.

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July 13, 2023, 07:36:49 AM
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Everytime I click on a crypto related trending topic the first thing I see is scammers and bots with blue checkmarks at the top of the results. Allowing random people to pay for greater visibility has ruined the user experience. It's hard to find useful information among all the trash blue checkmark accounts that pay their way into users' feeds. That's just one of many issues plaguing the site since Musk's takeover.

It's crystal clear that Twitter has been declining since Mr Musk took over. 
With $8 a month, you can have a verified account on Twitter.  That's absurd when you think about the fact that a lot of people get information from Twitter Usually this information comes from verified accounts and for you to be a verified account you have to be vetting and to an extent.
I can get a blue tick today and proceed to scam people with it because some don't understand that a blue tick today just means how long you can keep paying $8.
Aside from that,  the app just keeps recycling the same tweets for you even after you refresh.  You see tweets from people you don't follow and accounts you don't have an interest in.  You don't even see tweets of your mutual the way you used to anymore. 
I believe Musk will find a way to keep his app to keep generating money for him but if any of the newly launched apps stays long enough at this rate,  it might take over the market from Twitter.

      -  Those subscriptions of 8$ a month are surely the beginning of Elon Musk's twitter problem. I realized that this is exactly what will happen and twitter will have problems, I was not wrong, because of course for several years the twitter users got used to not paying anything every month, then in a flash there will be all of a sudden. Of course, it's just common sense that if I'm the user of twitter apps, I won't use them, I'll use them on other platforms.

Because like Facebook, it doesn't charge its users a monthly subscription, because Zuckerberg still earns a lot from the million people who use FB. We don't know if this Musk became so wild with money that he thought of such subscriptions on Twitter.

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July 13, 2023, 07:36:59 AM
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Thankfully, Threads is another exact microblogging alternative that is threatening Twitter, and if care is not taken and Musk doesn't apply wisdom, then the impact would be severe.
It's wrong to acknowledge thread as a treat to twitter because Elon limited daily views for Twitter users. That's the main reason Zuckerberg copied twitter and changed logo and name to thread. He didn't work for it, he stole another person's idea and intellectual property, it doesn't make sense. Most people will run back to twitter after a while of using thread. It'll just get the fame like truth social did when people started opting out of twitter because of the new update. It'll be hard for thread to beat twitter, not now.

I also don't think that Threads will ever be able to rival Twitter. Maybe the wave of curiosity of people who want to try Threads at this time is quite a lot. But yeah this won't last long. Because when people have finished trying, they will definitely leave. unless they find comfort in using those Threads. Because I personally also just want to try Threads to satisfy my curiosity. But if the Threads platform offers usability that Twitter doesn't then maybe Threads can compete with Twitter. but if there is no significant difference then it will not be too strong to compete with Twitter which already has a lot of users.
As of 3 days ago, Threads hit over 100 million users, that's about 3 days after the microblogging app was launched. This should definitely tell you something, and for the record, how many people had left Facebook and Instagram to the extent that the platforms feel it? Mark my word, 'Threads has come to stay as a viable competitor of Twitter.' The Rivalry will continue as long as God knows when.

Elon Musk has proved himself not a worthy person to own Twitter with his overbearing approaches after taking over, this should help Threads. And for Meta to have been in the system already is another plus for it.

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July 13, 2023, 09:51:12 AM
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It hasn't been a year since Elon Musk acquired Twitter and I think it's still too early to say Twitter is a failure, with proven business experience I'm sure Twitter will rise soon and be the leading social media, moreover, the huge financial support makes Twitter do everything it can to be the best.
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July 13, 2023, 10:20:48 AM
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It hasn't been a year since Elon Musk acquired Twitter and I think it's still too early to say Twitter is a failure, with proven business experience
Twitter was at its peak already when Elon acquired it in a $40B deal. He's got plans on it but we will never know when is going to be the execution of it.

I'm sure Twitter will rise soon and be the leading social media, moreover, the huge financial support makes Twitter do everything it can to be the best.
Well, it's tough to say that when Meta is also doing something in expanding their business share in the market of social media. We've seen them make a new social network and within just 5 days, it has gathered 100 million users. That's hard to beat.

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July 13, 2023, 01:40:06 PM
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Thankfully, Threads is another exact microblogging alternative that is threatening Twitter, and if care is not taken and Musk doesn't apply wisdom, then the impact would be severe.
It's wrong to acknowledge thread as a treat to twitter because Elon limited daily views for Twitter users. That's the main reason Zuckerberg copied twitter and changed logo and name to thread. He didn't work for it, he stole another person's idea and intellectual property, it doesn't make sense. Most people will run back to twitter after a while of using thread. It'll just get the fame like truth social did when people started opting out of twitter because of the new update. It'll be hard for thread to beat twitter, not now.

I also don't think that Threads will ever be able to rival Twitter. Maybe the wave of curiosity of people who want to try Threads at this time is quite a lot. But yeah this won't last long. Because when people have finished trying, they will definitely leave. unless they find comfort in using those Threads. Because I personally also just want to try Threads to satisfy my curiosity. But if the Threads platform offers usability that Twitter doesn't then maybe Threads can compete with Twitter. but if there is no significant difference then it will not be too strong to compete with Twitter which already has a lot of users.
As of 3 days ago, Threads hit over 100 million users, that's about 3 days after the microblogging app was launched. This should definitely tell you something, and for the record, how many people had left Facebook and Instagram to the extent that the platforms feel it? Mark my word, 'Threads has come to stay as a viable competitor of Twitter.' The Rivalry will continue as long as God knows when.

Elon Musk has proved himself not a worthy person to own Twitter with his overbearing approaches after taking over, this should help Threads. And for Meta to have been in the system already is another plus for it.
Actually, we shouldn't be too surprised by the growth in the number of users on the Threads Platform because the number will indeed be very easy to continue to grow. because everyone who has an Instagram account will be able to directly access and import their Instagram account to Threads. The ease of access is what makes it easy for people to try Threads.

For now, Threads still has a lot to add. Because there is no thread edit feature, no DM and many more. Even on Playstore (in my country area) I see the rating is still in the 3+ range. The point is user satisfaction who tried it is still not too high. Everyone who is active on social media on Instagram, the majority will definitely try Threads. because even from the Threads Application to Instagram we can switch applications with just one click on the Instagram icon in the upper right corner of Threads. so that Instagram users can certainly move between applications easily.
the initial launch is still in the hype. so let's watch a year from now. if the number continues to grow rapidly and active users can also survive the extraordinary increase as it is today then of course Twitter will panic at that time.
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July 13, 2023, 02:03:11 PM
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Twitter users can expect it to be more generous under Elon Musk at least if his promise sticks, Twitter will be seen as more open. But employees began to be fired but it's hard to get an overall picture of how Twitter users view the whole thing right now. Whether Twitter users will take kindly to this, or leave Twitter, may soon begin to show. And everything depends on the decision of Elon Musk most of the social media have spread these. This business idea of masks can be called a kind of bet. Mask's choice is cryptocurrency. He may bring forward transactions in the virtual currency of bitcoin.

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July 13, 2023, 02:25:06 PM
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Thankfully, Threads is another exact microblogging alternative that is threatening Twitter, and if care is not taken and Musk doesn't apply wisdom, then the impact would be severe.
It's wrong to acknowledge thread as a treat to twitter because Elon limited daily views for Twitter users. That's the main reason Zuckerberg copied twitter and changed logo and name to thread. He didn't work for it, he stole another person's idea and intellectual property, it doesn't make sense. Most people will run back to twitter after a while of using thread. It'll just get the fame like truth social did when people started opting out of twitter because of the new update. It'll be hard for thread to beat twitter, not now.

I also don't think that Threads will ever be able to rival Twitter. Maybe the wave of curiosity of people who want to try Threads at this time is quite a lot. But yeah this won't last long. Because when people have finished trying, they will definitely leave. unless they find comfort in using those Threads. Because I personally also just want to try Threads to satisfy my curiosity. But if the Threads platform offers usability that Twitter doesn't then maybe Threads can compete with Twitter. but if there is no significant difference then it will not be too strong to compete with Twitter which already has a lot of users.
As of 3 days ago, Threads hit over 100 million users, that's about 3 days after the microblogging app was launched. This should definitely tell you something, and for the record, how many people had left Facebook and Instagram to the extent that the platforms feel it? Mark my word, 'Threads has come to stay as a viable competitor of Twitter.' The Rivalry will continue as long as God knows when.

Elon Musk has proved himself not a worthy person to own Twitter with his overbearing approaches after taking over, this should help Threads. And for Meta to have been in the system already is another plus for it.
Actually, we shouldn't be too surprised by the growth in the number of users on the Threads Platform because the number will indeed be very easy to continue to grow. because everyone who has an Instagram account will be able to directly access and import their Instagram account to Threads. The ease of access is what makes it easy for people to try Threads.

For now, Threads still has a lot to add. Because there is no thread edit feature, no DM and many more. Even on Playstore (in my country area) I see the rating is still in the 3+ range. The point is user satisfaction who tried it is still not too high. Everyone who is active on social media on Instagram, the majority will definitely try Threads. because even from the Threads Application to Instagram we can switch applications with just one click on the Instagram icon in the upper right corner of Threads. so that Instagram users can certainly move between applications easily.
the initial launch is still in the hype. so let's watch a year from now. if the number continues to grow rapidly and active users can also survive the extraordinary increase as it is today then of course Twitter will panic at that time.

It's always good to have a platform alternative. This brings competition. Here we see a strong alternative. A lot of users joined the platform in a short time. Of course, this is due to the ease of registration method.

Elon is losing too many users with the choices he made. These users did not leave twitter and go to the other application. They currently have accounts in both apps.

The question is, will users who get angry with twitter return to twitter again or will they stay in the new application and close their twitter accounts?

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I hope the purchase of Twitter is not like the purchase of Yahoo which failed, Elon Musk has creative ideas so it is our hope to see Twitter become the leading social media, of course the transfer process is not easy because Elon Musk has replaced many employees at Twitter.
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I bet those who think twitter isn't good enough have found a new platform in threads which is even more censored than twitter. May be only then they will start appreciating what twitter and Elon has to offer. I think @op you exaggerated too much with the topic. Twitter is as good if not better than what it use to be, elon is making sure of freedom of speech and reducing the level of bot account unlike before.

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Thankfully, Threads is another exact microblogging alternative that is threatening Twitter, and if care is not taken and Musk doesn't apply wisdom, then the impact would be severe.
It's wrong to acknowledge thread as a treat to twitter because Elon limited daily views for Twitter users. That's the main reason Zuckerberg copied twitter and changed logo and name to thread. He didn't work for it, he stole another person's idea and intellectual property, it doesn't make sense. Most people will run back to twitter after a while of using thread. It'll just get the fame like truth social did when people started opting out of twitter because of the new update. It'll be hard for thread to beat twitter, not now.

I also don't think that Threads will ever be able to rival Twitter. Maybe the wave of curiosity of people who want to try Threads at this time is quite a lot. But yeah this won't last long. Because when people have finished trying, they will definitely leave. unless they find comfort in using those Threads. Because I personally also just want to try Threads to satisfy my curiosity. But if the Threads platform offers usability that Twitter doesn't then maybe Threads can compete with Twitter. but if there is no significant difference then it will not be too strong to compete with Twitter which already has a lot of users.
As of 3 days ago, Threads hit over 100 million users, that's about 3 days after the microblogging app was launched. This should definitely tell you something, and for the record, how many people had left Facebook and Instagram to the extent that the platforms feel it? Mark my word, 'Threads has come to stay as a viable competitor of Twitter.' The Rivalry will continue as long as God knows when.

Elon Musk has proved himself not a worthy person to own Twitter with his overbearing approaches after taking over, this should help Threads. And for Meta to have been in the system already is another plus for it.
Actually, we shouldn't be too surprised by the growth in the number of users on the Threads Platform because the number will indeed be very easy to continue to grow. because everyone who has an Instagram account will be able to directly access and import their Instagram account to Threads. The ease of access is what makes it easy for people to try Threads.

For now, Threads still has a lot to add. Because there is no thread edit feature, no DM and many more. Even on Playstore (in my country area) I see the rating is still in the 3+ range. The point is user satisfaction who tried it is still not too high. Everyone who is active on social media on Instagram, the majority will definitely try Threads. because even from the Threads Application to Instagram we can switch applications with just one click on the Instagram icon in the upper right corner of Threads. so that Instagram users can certainly move between applications easily.
the initial launch is still in the hype. so let's watch a year from now. if the number continues to grow rapidly and active users can also survive the extraordinary increase as it is today then of course Twitter will panic at that time.

It's always good to have a platform alternative. This brings competition. Here we see a strong alternative. A lot of users joined the platform in a short time. Of course, this is due to the ease of registration method.

Elon is losing too many users with the choices he made. These users did not leave twitter and go to the other application. They currently have accounts in both apps.

The question is, will users who get angry with twitter return to twitter again or will they stay in the new application and close their twitter accounts?
At the first launch of Threads I think Elon lost a lot of users though not completely,
we know for ourselves that in just a few days Threads can be said to attract a lot of people and that's good because it will give competition,
I think Twitter is still ahead as long as Elon doesn't impose restrictions which will make users angry.



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Twitter users can expect it to be more generous under Elon Musk at least if his promise sticks, Twitter will be seen as more open. But employees began to be fired but it's hard to get an overall picture of how Twitter users view the whole thing right now. Whether Twitter users will take kindly to this, or leave Twitter, may soon begin to show. And everything depends on the decision of Elon Musk most of the social media have spread these. This business idea of masks can be called a kind of bet. Mask's choice is cryptocurrency. He may bring forward transactions in the virtual currency of bitcoin.
Too much bad steps taken by Elon Musk is badly affecting Twitter but we should not think that Twitter will not re-strategize to overcome the challenges. A new management has been announced last month and Linda Yaccarino has the good record of turning a company around and monetize it like what Elon Musk want, the approach have to be different to avoid more problem. The fixing can take time and thing may look very ugly than this but Twitter will not leave for any other, it will continue to manage the good audience it has been enjoying on the platform.

It is Elon Musk and the new CEO who should be careful with their utterances and mode of forcing new policies and features on people, this is not going down with the masses that built Twitter to this level. Angering people with a platform like Twitter can not go down well with anyone.
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July 13, 2023, 04:21:54 PM
 #194

Thankfully, Threads is another exact microblogging alternative that is threatening Twitter, and if care is not taken and Musk doesn't apply wisdom, then the impact would be severe.
It's wrong to acknowledge thread as a treat to twitter because Elon limited daily views for Twitter users. That's the main reason Zuckerberg copied twitter and changed logo and name to thread. He didn't work for it, he stole another person's idea and intellectual property, it doesn't make sense. Most people will run back to twitter after a while of using thread. It'll just get the fame like truth social did when people started opting out of twitter because of the new update. It'll be hard for thread to beat twitter, not now.

I also don't think that Threads will ever be able to rival Twitter. Maybe the wave of curiosity of people who want to try Threads at this time is quite a lot. But yeah this won't last long. Because when people have finished trying, they will definitely leave. unless they find comfort in using those Threads. Because I personally also just want to try Threads to satisfy my curiosity. But if the Threads platform offers usability that Twitter doesn't then maybe Threads can compete with Twitter. but if there is no significant difference then it will not be too strong to compete with Twitter which already has a lot of users.
As of 3 days ago, Threads hit over 100 million users, that's about 3 days after the microblogging app was launched. This should definitely tell you something, and for the record, how many people had left Facebook and Instagram to the extent that the platforms feel it? Mark my word, 'Threads has come to stay as a viable competitor of Twitter.' The Rivalry will continue as long as God knows when.

Elon Musk has proved himself not a worthy person to own Twitter with his overbearing approaches after taking over, this should help Threads. And for Meta to have been in the system already is another plus for it.
Actually, we shouldn't be too surprised by the growth in the number of users on the Threads Platform because the number will indeed be very easy to continue to grow. because everyone who has an Instagram account will be able to directly access and import their Instagram account to Threads. The ease of access is what makes it easy for people to try Threads.

For now, Threads still has a lot to add. Because there is no thread edit feature, no DM and many more. Even on Playstore (in my country area) I see the rating is still in the 3+ range. The point is user satisfaction who tried it is still not too high. Everyone who is active on social media on Instagram, the majority will definitely try Threads. because even from the Threads Application to Instagram we can switch applications with just one click on the Instagram icon in the upper right corner of Threads. so that Instagram users can certainly move between applications easily.
the initial launch is still in the hype. so let's watch a year from now. if the number continues to grow rapidly and active users can also survive the extraordinary increase as it is today then of course Twitter will panic at that time.

It's always good to have a platform alternative. This brings competition. Here we see a strong alternative. A lot of users joined the platform in a short time. Of course, this is due to the ease of registration method.

Elon is losing too many users with the choices he made. These users did not leave twitter and go to the other application. They currently have accounts in both apps.

The question is, will users who get angry with twitter return to twitter again or will they stay in the new application and close their twitter accounts?
At the first launch of Threads I think Elon lost a lot of users though not completely,
we know for ourselves that in just a few days Threads can be said to attract a lot of people and that's good because it will give competition,
I think Twitter is still ahead as long as Elon doesn't impose restrictions which will make users angry.

I think threads is actually a good alternative to Twitter since it's already connected to IG. Since in some countries like mine which is PH, Facebook is much more popular app to use which is handled by Zuckerberg. That's why I think people would jump to threads as they will try the new feature where they can compare to Twitter. But we all know Twitter have its side where there's no restricted thing there. The reason why people loved to use Twitter. After they use threads they will just back to Twitter. Even without Elon Musk I still believe that Twitter will be an independent app where a lot of users love.

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I anticipated problems the moment he bought a Twitter account because he believed he could use it to manage Twitter in the same way he does with altcoin projects, but there is still plenty to learn. I think the prior owner of Twitter might not provide those secrets to him, and believe it or not, if further time passes without action, the previous owner will return to acquire back Elon Musk's company. His issues began when he fired those employees, who, in my opinion, formed the backbone of Twitter and were better equipped to run it than the people he now employs, not to mention the limitations he imposes on them. As for me, I never imagined he would act in such a way without first investigating the Twitter algorithm before firing any employees.
Perhaps the option to fire employees was not a good one, but it was the most logical step to reduce costs, because he would not be able to pay them after losing that huge amount to complete the deal at a time when the platform has not been profitable for years. 
I think it's not a good move, but it's not wrong anyway.  There are expectations that there is a will to increase the number of employees if the platform succeeds in overcoming its current crisis, especially since other Elon Musk companies do not make profits either.

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Yes, Twitter is going down. Elon Musk has continuously negative changes that worsen our experience while using the app. Imagine him implementing temporary limits on reading posts, which restricts the number of posts users can view per day based on their account type. He implement this temporal limits without even thinking that this would hinder users from accessing information. This would not in any way encourage people to purchase Twitter Blue as he thinks. The monetization efforts of Twitter, such as charging $8 a month for Twitter Blue and making certain features exclusive to paid users is the most stupidest idea. People are leaving Twitter soon, it would be like a ghost town.

- www.firstpost.com/tech/news-analysis/elon-musk-wor...-month-11549741.html
- www.cbsnews.com/news/twitter-outage-prompts-response-from-elon-musk/

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July 13, 2023, 09:14:44 PM
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This shouldn't surprise anyone, I really wish when he decided not to buy twitter, the owners sued him and forced him to buy basically. Obviously they had legal basis for it and managed to do it, and Elon of course acted as if that's what he wanted all along but we all know he was ordered to either buy it, or pay a hefty sum (something along 10 billion lines) so it made more sense to buy it for 40 billion then give up and have nothing for 10 billion. But because he was forced, now we are seeing why that was a bad decision, sure twitter old owners and shareholders probably made some big bank thanks to that, but the whole world is suffering because of that decision at the same time.

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July 13, 2023, 09:50:02 PM
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I don't think Twitter would fall. Elon may have made a decision backed by many to fire some former Twitter employees, but it would take like between 5years to 7 years to determine if his new company, Twitter would stand the test of the seasons, before considered as a failure.

Although, Mark of Meta has launched a competition network in the name of Threads, just to wake Elon from his slumber of just owning a company, it is yet to be seen what Elon has as reply to this and what new incentives he is incurring to see that Twitter isn't a failure in all entirety.

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July 14, 2023, 12:32:34 AM
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Personally I have always despised twitter.  Mainly I disliked it because anytime I got on, I felt like it was just complete disarray. It's very poorly set up.  It's hard to find things, and I just can't stand the layout. 

But now that Elon has taken over, it's even worse.  He's constantly tweeting absolutely idiotic childish moronic shit.

I mean it's hilarious that people still think of him as some sort of real life Tony Stark.  Please, he's not invented a single thing in his life.  A few days ago on Twitter he tweeted " Zuck is a cuck ".  The man is a child, and I wished he just go away. I'm currently trying to delete my twitter but can't figure out the email I used. Grrrr

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July 14, 2023, 01:12:54 AM
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There is a large amount of possible speculation around this fact, Elon has a rather eccentric personality, and while it may be true that he has a large number of unquestionable abilities, there are certain aspects that despite his talent he does not give the best of. of the coverage, the management of most of the dependencies under his responsibility, is far from the dynamic that is naturalized in twitter and unfortunately this has managed to be noticed in the results that he has obtained with it, and although several people say or intuit that there may be a purpose behind this, I personally doubt it and it is even among so many factors, he is still a human being and is susceptible to making mistakes or not making the best decisions on certain occasions.
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