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July 14, 2023, 01:12:54 AM
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There is a large amount of possible speculation around this fact, Elon has a rather eccentric personality, and while it may be true that he has a large number of unquestionable abilities, there are certain aspects that despite his talent he does not give the best of. of the coverage, the management of most of the dependencies under his responsibility, is far from the dynamic that is naturalized in twitter and unfortunately this has managed to be noticed in the results that he has obtained with it, and although several people say or intuit that there may be a purpose behind this, I personally doubt it and it is even among so many factors, he is still a human being and is susceptible to making mistakes or not making the best decisions on certain occasions.
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July 14, 2023, 03:15:25 AM
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I don't think Twitter would fall. Elon may have made a decision backed by many to fire some former Twitter employees, but it would take like between 5years to 7 years to determine if his new company, Twitter would stand the test of the seasons, before considered as a failure.

Although, Mark of Meta has launched a competition network in the name of Threads, just to wake Elon from his slumber of just owning a company, it is yet to be seen what Elon has as reply to this and what new incentives he is incurring to see that Twitter isn't a failure in all entirety.
Twitter was a popular social media for celebrities. But Instagram was a rival of Twitter but now Mark Zuckerberg has brought Threads as an alternative to Twitter.  Twitter is now under a lot of pressure. If Elon Musk wants to develop Twitter, he needs to adopt more new strategies to move Twitter forward.  But maybe it is possible with Elon Musk.  But since Mark Zuckerberg has been running Facebook since the beginning of his business.  So I think Mark Zuckerberg has more knowledge about social media management than Elon Musk so it will be hard for Elon Musk to compete with Mark Zuckerberg.

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July 14, 2023, 03:36:02 AM
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I don't think Twitter would fall. Elon may have made a decision backed by many to fire some former Twitter employees, but it would take like between 5years to 7 years to determine if his new company, Twitter would stand the test of the seasons, before considered as a failure.

Although, Mark of Meta has launched a competition network in the name of Threads, just to wake Elon from his slumber of just owning a company, it is yet to be seen what Elon has as reply to this and what new incentives he is incurring to see that Twitter isn't a failure in all entirety.
As long as Twitter doesn't make policies that incriminate its users I don't think it will make it fall,
regardless with Threads I'm happy because it will give competition which is a good thing,
so far Twitter seems to have a monopoly and without competition so we'll see what it will be like in the future.



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July 14, 2023, 04:01:31 AM
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It is true that a lot his choices were disapproved by many especially of course the users of the said platform however a lot of people still prefer twitter over other social media platforms. Maybe it caused a little of distrust but I don’t think twitter is gonna fall off that easily even with Threads launching. Twitter is much more user-friendly even with elon’s changes compared to Threads (not to mention its bad algorithm).
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July 14, 2023, 04:45:01 AM
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Personally I have always despised twitter.  Mainly I disliked it because anytime I got on, I felt like it was just complete disarray. It's very poorly set up.  It's hard to find things, and I just can't stand the layout. 

But now that Elon has taken over, it's even worse.  He's constantly tweeting absolutely idiotic childish moronic shit.

I mean it's hilarious that people still think of him as some sort of real life Tony Stark.  Please, he's not invented a single thing in his life.  A few days ago on Twitter he tweeted " Zuck is a cuck ".  The man is a child, and I wished he just go away. I'm currently trying to delete my twitter but can't figure out the email I used. Grrrr

To many people, his actions or tweets are silly, childish, but for him, he has achieved the purpose of getting people's attention. Not only you, but there are a lot of people who hate Elon but also a lot of people who are crazy fans of him, so he will keep doing those silly things as long as he achieves his goal.

We cannot please everyone, many will hate us, and many will like us. Would you care about those who hate you or those who love you? Moreover, the acquisition of Twitter is not just a mere hobby of Elon, but I believe everything is related to politics, bigger things that we never know, IMO.

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July 14, 2023, 06:32:24 AM
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Yeah. Twitter isn't going anywhere op even though Musk messed it up in recent times. It might not be as popular as before, but it's still quite popular. I visit it regularly for various reasons and I never faced any issues with its performance, interface etc.

Personally, I don't like Musk at all since he is a pathetic weasel and he made Twitter worse in some ways for everyone. He received proper karma for his deeds thanks to his wealth falling rapidly recently.

Am curious to see how Threads will fare against Twitter in the future.

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July 14, 2023, 07:14:21 AM
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Elon musk plays crucial role to developed most significant contributions like space exploration, renewable energy, electric vehicles, and tunneling technology. But with passing years he has been in various complications since purchasing the popular social media Twitter. Twitter has undergone numerous changes under Musk, he tried to reduce company's thousand of employees and costs and reduction was part of Musk's strategy to cut costs and steer the company towards profitability.
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July 14, 2023, 04:25:35 PM
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The censorship with Twitter before was at the utmost level and Elon was aware of that and during his acquisition, that's one that he has reduced. Not entirely eliminated because it's still happening. I may dislike him for his attitude and trolling for so many things including the crypto market but I'll give him that count. But if it's about his management of this company, he's not top-notch on it compared to the other companies that he owns. He's still got a lot of things to work on this one until he goes ROI and if he sees Twitter like a sinking ship, I think that he's got contingency plans.

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July 14, 2023, 07:02:25 PM
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Twitter starts to issue out payments to verified creators in ad revenue sharing model: https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-offer-ad-revenue-share-select-content-creators-2023-07-13/

This is a big mistake IMO. Creates incentive by content creators to heighten interactions. Every verified content creator essentially becomes a paid actor/Twitter shill and decreases the quality of speech because the income correlates directly to the amount of impressions/engagement. Looking at the payments, looks like creators got some tens of thousands of dollars for their tweets. I've seen paid propaganda accounts that spread political disinformation get upwards of 25k for their garbage posting.

Note this is different than pay-to-promote tweets. I don't have an issue with that. An ad sharing model on social media decreases quality across the board as every tweet essentially becomes an ad.
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The censorship with Twitter before was at the utmost level and Elon was aware of that and during his acquisition, that's one that he has reduced. Not entirely eliminated because it's still happening. I may dislike him for his attitude and trolling for so many things including the crypto market but I'll give him that count. But if it's about his management of this company, he's not top-notch on it compared to the other companies that he owns. He's still got a lot of things to work on this one until he goes ROI and if he sees Twitter like a sinking ship, I think that he's got contingency plans.
For Twitter, Elon Musk does have a backup strategy. Before purchasing it, he had his strategy all in place. He established the adjustments and policies in order to monetize Twitter and use it for personal financial gain.

Of recent, Elon Musk shared $5 million to creators on Twitter. The $5 million to be shared is gotten from Ad revenues from replies.

This is the first time it has occurred in the history of social media platforms. No social media network has ever carried out such an action.

Link for the info:   https://dataconomy.com/2023/07/14/twitter-ad-revenue-sharing-how-to/

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July 15, 2023, 09:39:58 AM
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The censorship with Twitter before was at the utmost level and Elon was aware of that and during his acquisition, that's one that he has reduced. Not entirely eliminated because it's still happening. I may dislike him for his attitude and trolling for so many things including the crypto market but I'll give him that count. But if it's about his management of this company, he's not top-notch on it compared to the other companies that he owns. He's still got a lot of things to work on this one until he goes ROI and if he sees Twitter like a sinking ship, I think that he's got contingency plans.
For Twitter, Elon Musk does have a backup strategy. Before purchasing it, he had his strategy all in place. He established the adjustments and policies in order to monetize Twitter and use it for personal financial gain.

Of recent, Elon Musk shared $5 million to creators on Twitter. The $5 million to be shared is gotten from Ad revenues from replies.

This is the first time it has occurred in the history of social media platforms. No social media network has ever carried out such an action.

Link for the info:   https://dataconomy.com/2023/07/14/twitter-ad-revenue-sharing-how-to/
It's not yet known to the masses and if this is like a revenue-sharing model fro content creators then it has to be known by the other content creators from other social networks. With this, the other social networks are going to be more competitive and will only make the competition better so that we'll be having more quality content creators staying on these platforms. This is a sustainable business model for him and it will attract more advertisers and traffic.

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July 17, 2023, 02:33:18 PM
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Exactly! It doesn't even deserved to be called as the Twitter's competitor just because of it's similarities and that's just unrealistic to think, we all know that Twitter has been in the world for quite some time now and it will turn to its 20th year this 2026. This Thread will not even surpass half of the Twitter's achievements, not even a bit, it's just that people are dying to try what it can do but yes I agree, after a few months, they will all go back to Twitter.

Twitter is on fire as soon as 'Elon musk' officially took control of twitter at the same time, first of all from the office of twitter the CEO of twitter that is Parag Agarwal of India was shown the way out. The biggest reason for which was that Parag Aggarwal told Elon musk on the deal between twitter that the future of twitter is now in danger but he hardy new that, in reality his future was in danger in twitter. After this, the CFO of twitter Ned Segal was also fired from the job. Even twitter's chief advisor Vijaya Gadde, who banned Trump's account from twitter was also dismissed by Elon musk.
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Yeah. Twitter isn't going anywhere op even though Musk messed it up in recent times. It might not be as popular as before, but it's still quite popular. I visit it regularly for various reasons and I never faced any issues with its performance, interface etc.

Personally, I don't like Musk at all since he is a pathetic weasel and he made Twitter worse in some ways for everyone. He received proper karma for his deeds thanks to his wealth falling rapidly recently.

Am curious to see how Threads will fare against Twitter in the future.
honestly, I didn’t notice big changes with the arrival of Elon Musk to manage Twitter, I read it more than I post, maybe that’s why I don’t notice changes, content of a different nature is still present on the platform than I like it and I like that there are no strong restrictions. Now I'm watching the Threads and I don't see much interest from users to go there because there is more censorship and there is no such freedom of speech as on Twitter, according to my observations.

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Yeah. Twitter isn't going anywhere op even though Musk messed it up in recent times. It might not be as popular as before, but it's still quite popular. I visit it regularly for various reasons and I never faced any issues with its performance, interface etc.

Personally, I don't like Musk at all since he is a pathetic weasel and he made Twitter worse in some ways for everyone. He received proper karma for his deeds thanks to his wealth falling rapidly recently.

Am curious to see how Threads will fare against Twitter in the future.
honestly, I didn’t notice big changes with the arrival of Elon Musk to manage Twitter, I read it more than I post, maybe that’s why I don’t notice changes, content of a different nature is still present on the platform than I like it and I like that there are no strong restrictions. Now I'm watching the Threads and I don't see much interest from users to go there because there is more censorship and there is no such freedom of speech as on Twitter, according to my observations.
Basically, both applications have their own advantages and disadvantages,
initially since the launch of Threads a lot of people started switching but now back to Twitter again,
hope that with Threads it will create competition and we'll see how far it lasts.

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Personally I have always despised twitter.  Mainly I disliked it because anytime I got on, I felt like it was just complete disarray. It's very poorly set up.  It's hard to find things, and I just can't stand the layout. 
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Well... if you never liked Twitter, then it doesn't matter what you think about it. I guess Elon would be more worried about the existing users. I can understand the current hype being made around the pullout by certain advertisers. These guys are mad that Elon put an end to censorship by the far-left and then implemented freedom of speech. As Elon mentioned, $44 billion that was spent on Twitter was necessary to restore freedom of speech in one of the most popular social media platforms. Advertisers will return in future, or else they will be replaced with others.

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One thing to note is that Elon himself posted awhile ago (Around the time of purchasing twitter or before that a little bit) mockering and laughing at Youtube system saying that these guys allow scam ads, which I totally agree with him. I was shocked when I saw that while watching youtube a scam ad appears to me where they want to steal my crypto, either by showing a interview with a known man but underneath is a scam link. I thought Elon was a hero for pointing that out.

But then he bought twitter and made the blue-checkmark attainable by anyone who pays money, isnt that the same thing? In the past it used to be given to real people who owns their legit names, but now anyone can get a blue-checkmark if they pay which means a scammer can get a blue checkmark and pretend to be a real-person of some sort to scam people. And trust me people fall for it by thinking "Oh that is legit he got the blue-check mark" because they may or may not know that it is purchasable for money, they may still think it is the same way it was in the early stages of twitter.

So in a sense Elon promotes scammers by this move the exact same way YouTube promote scams in their platform by allowing them to put ads.
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Elon Musk has been in various complications since purchasing the popular social media Twitter. After purchasing the social media he imposed various restrictions on the intention of the users. Since becoming the owner of Twitter, by eliminating employer he tried to reduce the company's costs. No one including the users could accept his various thoughts regarding on twitter. As a result, today he has to announce the sale of his Twitter at half of the buy price. $44 billion Twitter is now $20 billion. Elon Musk has made such an offer to sell shares to Twitter employees.

Elon Musk cofounded and his four popular companies are Electric car maker Tesla, Rocket producer SpaceX, Tunneling startup Boring Company and
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He may be a big businessman but nothing can be imposed ignoring the sentiments of common people. Since Elon Musk's purchase of Twitter, 14 of the 30 companies that have served as advertisers they have stopped promoting in twitter. Naturally, Twitter's revenue has declined and is likely to further decline in the coming days.

Although he is financially one of the richest businessmen in the world, it is also worth noting that the share prices of his other companies could fall through losses on his Twitter purchase. In my opinion his main mistake was disregarding public sentiment. What is your concern?

It is true that Elon Musk's biggest mistake is ignoring the loud sentiments of millions of twitter users ever since he bought the social media platform. The changes he applied had drastically changed the overall user experience of the well-known social media platform. However, it should be noted that Elon Musk is a businessman and that means he knows that his actions, although receiving much negative feedback, will still find a way to bring profit on his side. For example, it is a well-known fact that much of twitter users sees the profile verification tag as an important symbol in the platform, with this in mind Musk used the opportunity to establish the now known Twitter Blue where users can pay for a premium experience in using the site. And as obnoxious as it is, many twitter users (especially those who have been using it for a long time either for their personal experience or career) have paid to have the listed benefits upon subscribing to this premium subscription.

Yes, twitter have seen better days, but Elon Musk is a businessman and as much as the platform is big and is heavily reliant on its users experience and feedbacks, Musk will find a way around it to earn more in the long run.
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US Senator Elizabeth Warren now is going after Elon Musk. It is for the relationship with Twitter and his company Tesla.

She is telling sec to look for a conflict of interest with these 2 companies he owns. https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Letter%20to%20SEC%20asking%20for%20investigation%20into%20Tesla%20-%20FINAL1.pdf

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/elizabeth-warren-urges-sec-investigate-tesla-twitter-ties-corporate-go-rcna94740

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Personally I have always despised twitter.  Mainly I disliked it because anytime I got on, I felt like it was just complete disarray. It's very poorly set up.  It's hard to find things, and I just can't stand the layout. 
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Well... if you never liked Twitter, then it doesn't matter what you think about it. I guess Elon would be more worried about the existing users. I can understand the current hype being made around the pullout by certain advertisers. These guys are mad that Elon put an end to censorship by the far-left and then implemented freedom of speech. As Elon mentioned, $44 billion that was spent on Twitter was necessary to restore freedom of speech in one of the most popular social media platforms. Advertisers will return in future, or else they will be replaced with others.
Twitter being Twitter can't be like anything else. other social media may come with new features.  But can't exactly meet Twitter's needs. Twitter's market cap has fallen as many have pulled their investments out of Twitter.  And in the stock market it is normal that the stock price will go up and down and that is why people can profit.  It can rise again at any time. So there is nothing to panic about it. It is best to be patient here



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July 18, 2023, 01:30:00 PM
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Personally I have always despised twitter.  Mainly I disliked it because anytime I got on, I felt like it was just complete disarray. It's very poorly set up.  It's hard to find things, and I just can't stand the layout. 
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Well... if you never liked Twitter, then it doesn't matter what you think about it. I guess Elon would be more worried about the existing users. I can understand the current hype being made around the pullout by certain advertisers. These guys are mad that Elon put an end to censorship by the far-left and then implemented freedom of speech. As Elon mentioned, $44 billion that was spent on Twitter was necessary to restore freedom of speech in one of the most popular social media platforms. Advertisers will return in future, or else they will be replaced with others.
Twitter being Twitter can't be like anything else. other social media may come with new features.  But can't exactly meet Twitter's needs. Twitter's market cap has fallen as many have pulled their investments out of Twitter.  And in the stock market it is normal that the stock price will go up and down and that is why people can profit.  It can rise again at any time. So there is nothing to panic about it. It is best to be patient here

Moreover, we are in the midst of an economic crisis, and not only has Twitter lost revenue, but many other businesses are not doing much better. But many people take advantage of that and think that Twitter's apocalypse is approaching, and they blame Elon's way of operating. As you said, I find it normal for stocks to fall or businesses to suffer for a while. In business or investing, things are not always smooth and profitable without problems.

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