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March 31, 2023, 09:56:48 PM
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I prefer to play traditional slots, where the outcome of the game depends on luck rather than skill. If I want to test my strength I play poker or any other gambling game in which I have the opportunity to influence the outcome of each individual move. In my opinion slots is not a game to think. Slots is more of a quick gamble just for fun. 
For me, as long as slots is concerned, I often see it as a game of chance and luck, rather than skill. So whether it’s traditional or not, I believe skills never exist in it. But with what OP has stated, there might be really slot games that are skill based, and if they really exist in the casino, I don’t know and I’m not aware of that. But if there are any, then that’s the time I should start honing my skills as that will open another opportunity for me to be profitable in gambling.

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March 31, 2023, 10:10:13 PM
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Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?



There is nothing in the article that gives a detailed explanation of how to develop skill in the slot, a luck-based game will remain a luck-based game so there is really no option to choose, because if there's a proven method for implementing a skill-based on slot or any other luck based game like dice, then the house edge will crumble and casino will eventually lose a lot of money, and they might even take down these once luck-based games.


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March 31, 2023, 10:49:18 PM
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Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?



There is nothing in the article that gives a detailed explanation of how to develop skill in the slot, a luck-based game will remain a luck-based game so there is really no option to choose, because if there's a proven method for implementing a skill-based on slot or any other luck based game like dice, then the house edge will crumble and casino will eventually lose a lot of money, and they might even take down these once luck-based games.
House edge would always fucked us up and considering that slots have 5-10% HE according into this article
https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/10/study-busts-popular-myth-that-gamblers-can-sense-differences-in-house-edge/

Which means that if on dice games and other luck based games we do lost in long term runs then how much more on slot gaming?
There's no way that we could be able to make out some advantages on having that alteration or applying any strategies to
increase your winning odds.

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April 01, 2023, 03:57:48 AM
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I prefer to play traditional slots, where the outcome of the game depends on luck rather than skill. If I want to test my strength I play poker or any other gambling game in which I have the opportunity to influence the outcome of each individual move. In my opinion slots is not a game to think. Slots is more of a quick gamble just for fun. 
For me, as long as slots is concerned, I often see it as a game of chance and luck, rather than skill. So whether it’s traditional or not, I believe skills never exist in it. But with what OP has stated, there might be really slot games that are skill based, and if they really exist in the casino, I don’t know and I’m not aware of that. But if there are any, then that’s the time I should start honing my skills as that will open another opportunity for me to be profitable in gambling.
The slot game is indeed a game of chance and luck, not skill. And even though there are different slots games and being a game of skill, I wonder what kind of skills a gambler must have to win. I think many of us are curious about what the slot game in question is like because so far, when we play slot games, it depends on our luck. If we don't get lucky, we will lose and vice versa. And when we know one type of slot game mentioned by @OP, we may learn how to use the skills referred to by @OP.

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April 01, 2023, 05:26:36 AM
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Its not the skill based idea which gets me whether it was actually there or not, its the story and theme to a slot that really makes me come back or not.  Maybe the music & the overall style and feel to the game.  The gun fighters dead or alive was perhaps my favorite theme for a slot even if its still just luck and maybe my luck wasnt especially good on it.  Great setup for a game anyhow.

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April 01, 2023, 05:37:06 AM
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Its not the skill based idea which gets me whether it was actually there or not, its the story and theme to a slot that really makes me come back or not.  Maybe the music & the overall style and feel to the game.  The gun fighters dead or alive was perhaps my favorite theme for a slot even if its still just luck and maybe my luck wasnt especially good on it.  Great setup for a game anyhow.

I still believe that slot games are purely luck based and skill is not required to win a slot game. Yes, the slot game can be developed in a way that appeals it is a skill based with all those sounds and animations but in the backend only luck matters in the end.

There is nothing in the article that gives a detailed explanation of how to develop skill in the slot, a luck-based game will remain a luck-based game so there is really no option to choose, because if there's a proven method for implementing a skill-based on slot or any other luck based game like dice, then the house edge will crumble and casino will eventually lose a lot of money, and they might even take down these once luck-based games.

Casinos can falsely claim that they have skill-based games on their platform and this could be done to grab the attention as gamblers usually have hard luck in winning, they would want to try a skill-based game but unfortunately, it would just be a hoax. There is no skill-based games in reality.

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April 01, 2023, 05:53:18 AM
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Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

So far I haven't come across any skill based slot machines. The only ones I heard from was some anime slot machines from Japan that want the gamblers to touch special areas on the screen to interact with them. It isn't really skilled based because it won't affect the winning chances, even though some people believed they would get good luck from it. When it comes to gambling people tend to become very superstitious and believe in connections that aren't really there. This would also be one issue I have with skill based slots, how much can we actually influence our chances through skill? Because the casino needs to make sure they make money with their slot games, so it could be that the slot machines offer skill input from the player which won't affect the winning chances at all. Or maybe it takes such a high skill cap that only a few player actually manage to be successful. I am not such a good gamer these days as I was back in highschool, but still would be nice to give the new slots a try and see how well I am doing.
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April 01, 2023, 06:09:38 AM
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The slot game is indeed a game of chance and luck, not skill. And even though there are different slots games and being a game of skill, I wonder what kind of skills a gambler must have to win. I think many of us are curious about what the slot game in question is like because so far, when we play slot games, it depends on our luck. If we don't get lucky, we will lose and vice versa. And when we know one type of slot game mentioned by @OP, we may learn how to use the skills referred to by @OP.
As far as I can remember while there have been some people over the years which have won a lot of money by playing slots, at the same time not a single one of them did so with skill, basically every single one of them cheated the slot machine in some way or form.

And with this in mind plus the very high house edge which is present on those machines, I will say that slot machines are probably one of my least favorite games I can find at any casino.

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April 01, 2023, 05:13:15 PM
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You'll really see who's read the article and who's not. The fact that the term skill-based is so widely accepted to be about the player's skill and nothing else is such a clickbait for this kind of slot games.

So basically for those who didn't have the time to read the article quoted in the main post, the term skill-based slot game is a massive misnomer, as it doesn't really talk about the player's skill having some effect on the game outcome, rather, the slot will give the player a bonus, called a "skill" that he/she can use in order to amp up the profits he could rake. Keep note, it doesn't increase his chances of winning anything, nor does it help the player in any way whatsoever to secure said profits. The gambling industry is such a deceitful world but I never expected them to stoop this low, literally baiting people into thinking that the player will have some agency over his win.

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April 01, 2023, 06:26:19 PM
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based from the explanation of the article, i still don't know how it really works in actuality as i have never played one yet. when it comes to crypto casinos, i don't think they have this kind of slot machine already.
and definitely, there's still house edge on this game. casinos are here for businesss, so they won't just release a game that they will be bankrupt of.
Skill-based slot machines that are mentioned in the article given by OP are not yet available in online casino platforms and are currently only available at a few land-based casinos. They are not yet that much popular nor widely accepted and are just spreading around, and if they prove to be a failure, they will probably vanish from existence too.

It's pretty simple, you just keep spinning like a normal slot machine and then you get a bonus round (I don't know how it happens though) where you are given a skill-based game to play and you either get extra spins or multiplier based on the points.

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April 01, 2023, 08:17:52 PM
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I prefer to play traditional slots, where the outcome of the game depends on luck rather than skill. If I want to test my strength I play poker or any other gambling game in which I have the opportunity to influence the outcome of each individual move. In my opinion slots is not a game to think. Slots is more of a quick gamble just for fun. 
For me, as long as slots is concerned, I often see it as a game of chance and luck, rather than skill. So whether it’s traditional or not, I believe skills never exist in it. But with what OP has stated, there might be really slot games that are skill based, and if they really exist in the casino, I don’t know and I’m not aware of that. But if there are any, then that’s the time I should start honing my skills as that will open another opportunity for me to be profitable in gambling.
The slot game is indeed a game of chance and luck, not skill. And even though there are different slots games and being a game of skill, I wonder what kind of skills a gambler must have to win. I think many of us are curious about what the slot game in question is like because so far, when we play slot games, it depends on our luck. If we don't get lucky, we will lose and vice versa. And when we know one type of slot game mentioned by @OP, we may learn how to use the skills referred to by @OP.
What skills actually?

There's no skills involve when you do really play slots and this is why lots of people do really love on playing it because you could really just simply press the roll button or would pull up the lever
for you to get those numbers rolling or images which would really be neither give out a winning run/roll or not.Lots of people do get interested on this one because it does give out
instant results and having the probability on hitting huge numbers which is something that make things interested for people to play on.Applying
strategy is something that it is really out of concept.

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April 01, 2023, 08:47:56 PM
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I prefer to play traditional slots, where the outcome of the game depends on luck rather than skill. If I want to test my strength I play poker or any other gambling game in which I have the opportunity to influence the outcome of each individual move. In my opinion slots is not a game to think. Slots is more of a quick gamble just for fun. 
For me, as long as slots is concerned, I often see it as a game of chance and luck, rather than skill. So whether it’s traditional or not, I believe skills never exist in it. But with what OP has stated, there might be really slot games that are skill based, and if they really exist in the casino, I don’t know and I’m not aware of that. But if there are any, then that’s the time I should start honing my skills as that will open another opportunity for me to be profitable in gambling.
The slot game is indeed a game of chance and luck, not skill. And even though there are different slots games and being a game of skill, I wonder what kind of skills a gambler must have to win. I think many of us are curious about what the slot game in question is like because so far, when we play slot games, it depends on our luck. If we don't get lucky, we will lose and vice versa. And when we know one type of slot game mentioned by @OP, we may learn how to use the skills referred to by @OP.
What skills actually?

There's no skills involve when you do really play slots and this is why lots of people do really love on playing it because you could really just simply press the roll button or would pull up the lever
for you to get those numbers rolling or images which would really be neither give out a winning run/roll or not.Lots of people do get interested on this one because it does give out
instant results and having the probability on hitting huge numbers which is something that make things interested for people to play on.Applying
strategy is something that it is really out of concept.
For some other people, like me who rarely get lucky with slot games, it is the other way round.
Slot games are really fun to play, but this is if you are always winning, yeah, atleast, much more than your loses, but I've been made to understand that majority of slot games are built in such a way that even if one gets lucky and win in the very beginning, it is really difficult to keep the winning streak for long, as a few rolls, could see the gambler lose all his profit including the initial deposit..
This is particularly one of the reasons I avoid slot games, most especially ones which are luck based, this is if there is even a slot game that is skill based, would personally love to try the skill based version, maybe I would have a different experience.

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April 01, 2023, 08:51:27 PM
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based from the explanation of the article, i still don't know how it really works in actuality as i have never played one yet. when it comes to crypto casinos, i don't think they have this kind of slot machine already.
and definitely, there's still house edge on this game. casinos are here for businesss, so they won't just release a game that they will be bankrupt of.
Skill-based slot machines that are mentioned in the article given by OP are not yet available in online casino platforms and are currently only available at a few land-based casinos. They are not yet that much popular nor widely accepted and are just spreading around, and if they prove to be a failure, they will probably vanish from existence too.

Haven't seen that kind of games from land base casinos too, at least in my place and it could be just in bigger casino in the US or even in Europe I reckon. But I'm interested and maybe just for the experience, I might play if I see one in our local land base casinos.

It's pretty simple, you just keep spinning like a normal slot machine and then you get a bonus round (I don't know how it happens though) where you are given a skill-based game to play and you either get extra spins or multiplier based on the points.

Yes, it's that simply almost the same with traditional base slot games, once you get the bonus then you will rely to your luck. But obviously, in skill based games, you will based it on yourself, your best effort to beat the casino machine in their own game.

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April 01, 2023, 09:25:47 PM
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I prefer to play traditional slots, where the outcome of the game depends on luck rather than skill. If I want to test my strength I play poker or any other gambling game in which I have the opportunity to influence the outcome of each individual move. In my opinion slots is not a game to think. Slots is more of a quick gamble just for fun. 
For me, as long as slots is concerned, I often see it as a game of chance and luck, rather than skill. So whether it’s traditional or not, I believe skills never exist in it. But with what OP has stated, there might be really slot games that are skill based, and if they really exist in the casino, I don’t know and I’m not aware of that. But if there are any, then that’s the time I should start honing my skills as that will open another opportunity for me to be profitable in gambling.
The slot game is indeed a game of chance and luck, not skill. And even though there are different slots games and being a game of skill, I wonder what kind of skills a gambler must have to win. I think many of us are curious about what the slot game in question is like because so far, when we play slot games, it depends on our luck. If we don't get lucky, we will lose and vice versa. And when we know one type of slot game mentioned by @OP, we may learn how to use the skills referred to by @OP.
What skills actually?

There's no skills involve when you do really play slots and this is why lots of people do really love on playing it because you could really just simply press the roll button or would pull up the lever
for you to get those numbers rolling or images which would really be neither give out a winning run/roll or not.Lots of people do get interested on this one because it does give out
instant results and having the probability on hitting huge numbers which is something that make things interested for people to play on.Applying
strategy is something that it is really out of concept.
I agree with all of these I quoted.
How come there is a based skill on a slot machine, either it will online or traditionally it is still based on luck, not on skill?
You can even blindly pull the lever or even hit the button to roll the slot machine. Skill games are those games that have something to be calculated the result and that this kind of game. But to be honest, I never knew this kind of game exists in slot machines, how has this become possible I think that it is only based on luck.
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April 01, 2023, 09:36:27 PM
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Today I am reading about skill based slot machines which is very popular among millennials. This is the first time I am reading this in my life as a gambler. All that I have known about slot machines is that the outcome is purely based on luck1 as a result of the Random number Generator (RGN). From what I read, the major difference between this skill based slot machines and the regular/traditional ones we know is that there is a bonus round for the players to2 display their skills which gives them a greater chance of winning. Despite this, the odds are still stacked up against the player.
Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

1. http://bostonsportsextra.com/skill-based-slot-machines-what-are-they-and-how-they-work/
2. http://web.archive.org/slot1.sbs/76959.html
Article doesn't name one skill based slot so i am not aware of any of those. Can we try those out in any crypto casinos and could someone name one of the slots or slot provider that makes those?
But i remain skeptical. As you couldn't beat the house, otherwise they wouldn't be builded. That means that even with best outcome you would probably make less winnings then with some of the other slots out there. Those could be fun though.

In Finland we actually had physical slot machines in 80s that could be beaten by real skill, they were called payazzos. They were very difficult to beat but not impossible and technically you could have build a device that helps you but you couldn't use them without anyone noticing.

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April 01, 2023, 11:20:56 PM
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But i remain skeptical. As you couldn't beat the house, otherwise they wouldn't be builded. That means that even with best outcome you would probably make less winnings then with some of the other slots out there. Those could be fun though.

In Finland we actually had physical slot machines in 80s that could be beaten by real skill, they were called payazzos. They were very difficult to beat but not impossible and technically you could have build a device that helps you but you couldn't use them without anyone noticing.

In the first place, why have that mindset to be beat the house? Does we really need to aim for it.

It's already clear to us, even newbies, that there's no way to beat the house in terms of technical aspects like if it's possible to ride on its algorithm, manipulate the result and override its built system.

Instead of thinking about beating the house, learn to take advantage once luck hits us and give us decent win. Winning big doesn't happen often in playing slots so learn to cashout some winning money if ever it's now our turned to hit it.

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April 02, 2023, 02:27:06 AM
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Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?
Of course, we have to keep up with the times, skill-based slots are very popular in my country, the young boy plays this kind of slot and fights to get the bonus whereas the addiction is to get more registered. we can't ignore the fact that young boys these days have basic knowledge about new technology which makes them always curious about how must calculate the margin casino and make easy money. We know the traditional slot doesn't have it where just rely on luck, while skill-based slots don't just rely on it but another soft skill which we can see they play on Social Media.

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April 02, 2023, 03:32:00 PM
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Instead of thinking about beating the house, learn to take advantage once luck hits us and give us decent win. Winning big doesn't happen often in playing slots so learn to cashout some winning money if ever it's now our turned to hit it.
That is a way to be able to control finances so that they don't run out after getting a win, friend.
By withdrawing some money from the winnings, we can still have some left when we continue to experience defeat and this really needs to be applied to every gambler because there are many experience stories from many gamblers who lost all their winning money after deciding to pursue bigger wins.
But this kind of thing is very rarely realized by many gamblers. They don't want to think long and prefer to follow the emotion of lust for greed to get bigger profits.
Thank you, friend, for giving good advice here.

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April 02, 2023, 04:00:33 PM
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Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?
Indeed slot games are easy to say in theory, but practice is much different, if we talk about slot machines, whether it's skill-based or traditional slots, both are different, I've tried both, the results I get are far from what I thought.

I thought it was easy to play a skill slot machine with bonus rounds available, fact is not the case, I simply couldn't raise the RTP high enough to determine my win, even though I have applied my skills, to be honest I realize that any type of slot is basically luck nothing more, even though we have a series of ways and tricks to play.

While traditional slot machines are also based on luck where we start and when we stop to play traditional slot bets, the rest is based on will, if lucky.

Conclusion: Both types of traditional and skill slot games are more based on the nature of our luck in betting.

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April 02, 2023, 04:19:48 PM
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Today I am reading about skill based slot machines which is very popular among millennials. This is the first time I am reading this in my life as a gambler. All that I have known about slot machines is that the outcome is purely based on luck1 as a result of the Random number Generator (RGN). From what I read, the major difference between this skill based slot machines and the regular/traditional ones we know is that there is a bonus round for the players to2 display their skills which gives them a greater chance of winning. Despite this, the odds are still stacked up against the player.
Has anyone here tried it out?
Which do you prefer, traditional slots or skill-based slots?

1. http://bostonsportsextra.com/skill-based-slot-machines-what-are-they-and-how-they-work/
2. http://web.archive.org/slot1.sbs/76959.html

Yeah I think that's over now right? I haven't seen this offered anywhere yet. Even if the article states it is still a thing, I still don't find any game like that on my usual online casinos.

It seems to me so complicated for a casino to offer a slot in this genre, it seems to me almost contradictory with the primary purpose of slot games.

Anyway thanks OP, it was a very interesting article, I will try to find more resources on this subject

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