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Question: How much post you can do per day?
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March 30, 2023, 06:56:36 AM
Last edit: March 30, 2023, 09:12:27 AM by speedy963
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I think this question is appropriate in this section. I just wanted to know how many posts you can do everyday and no other intentions.

Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. Though for sure there will be people here saying depending on a topic or "you don't care about the topic as long as you can post" thingy.

Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?



Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?







Ps. I have created this thread knowing some of you would literally refer me another existing thread, or some kind of thread containing rules about posting. I  created this because I know you guys have different perspective on what is a spammer or a burst poster. I just want to know your perspective individually.


(Edit. If someone happens to give merits to this thread, I'll be using it to help our local section Pilipinas to generate merit cycle. As it happens that our local section is active but the merit cycle isn't, besides that, we also don't have merit source due to various complications. Thanks in advance)
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March 30, 2023, 07:04:57 AM
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I just wanted to know how many posts you can do everyday and no other intentions.
I remember a day that I made 20 posts, the posts were on new topics and existing threads that I have something to post. There were days I made 1 or not more than 3 to 5. You can post as many as possible as you like, provided that your posts are meaningful, constructive and helping others. Those are not spams. But if anyone is spamming, the person would later be known and be given neutral trust or the person would be included in the lists of spammers.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
The gap between my post may be less than 3 to 5 minutes, it may also be more than 1 to several hours. It depends on new topics and continuous discussion on the existing threads of interest.

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March 30, 2023, 07:14:08 AM
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
On average I can make 5-8 posts comfortably with the number of hours I spend on the forum.
If I get more free time, I can easily see myself making more without burst posting or spamming. It all depends on what topics you are replying to and how much hours you spend on the forum.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
An acceptable number is relative. It can take one user 5-20 minutes to read through a thread and maybe do some searches on the topic to have something to write, but another user who has more knowledge on that topic can write something withing seconds. If they come across a couple of such posts consecutively, their gap could not be more than 1 or 2 minutes.

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March 30, 2023, 07:40:46 AM
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I remember a day that I made 20 posts, the posts were on new topics and existing threads that I have something to post. There were days I made 1 or not more than 3 to 5. You can post as many as possible as you like, provided that your posts are meaningful, constructive and helping others. Those are not spams. But if anyone is spamming, the person would later be known and be given neutral trust or the person would be included in the lists of spammers.

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The gap between my post may be less than 3 to 5 minutes, it may also be more than 1 to several hours. It depends on new topics and continuous discussion on the existing threads of interest.
Interesting! I did this because I know for sure that you are well aware about some campaign managers who are strict with the campaigns they are managing and usually what they required are 5 posts a day and if the posts are consecutively done, are they still choosing from those consecutive posts? for example they are done from 3-5 minutes? I know it's basically their own rule so I am somehow curious. Thanks for the feedback.

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On average I can make 5-8 posts comfortably with the number of hours I spend on the forum.
If I get more free time, I can easily see myself making more without burst posting or spamming. It all depends on what topics you are replying to and how much hours you spend on the forum.

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An acceptable number is relative. It can take one user 5-20 minutes to read through a thread and maybe do some searches on the topic to have something to write, but another user who has more knowledge on that topic can write something withing seconds. If they come across a couple of such posts consecutively, their gap could not be more than 1 or 2 minutes.

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Thanks for sharing your perspective. I am aware that everyone on this forum have different standards when it comes to posts quality and posting patterns, this is one of the reasons why I made this thread. Also it is relatable to merits since veteran members here would say that merit is subjective, it should also be a part of their criteria to consider how do you perform as a member here on this forum and the quality of posts as we can see in every signature campaigns here that they are strict when it comes to their rules like posts.
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March 30, 2023, 08:57:24 AM
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
Im not sure not even counting them but maybe 3 to 6 depends on the topic Ive engaged too. Sometimes could be less, or more if I am quite interested in the topic and discussion. Also considered that some or mostly are in signature campaign so they probably trying out to average their post daily, but gap within it there is no strict rule about that as far as I remember but dont be like 2 to 5mins gap, it seems obvious you are rushing to make your quota for the campaign.

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March 30, 2023, 09:16:06 AM
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
Im not sure not even counting them but maybe 3 to 6 depends on the topic Ive engaged too. Sometimes could be less, or more if I am quite interested in the topic and discussion. Also considered that some or mostly are in signature campaign so they probably trying out to average their post daily, but gap within it there is no strict rule about that as far as I remember but dont be like 2 to 5mins gap, it seems obvious you are rushing to make your quota for the campaign.
Thank you for your response. So that depends on the campaign manager and it is up to them how much post they'll be counting per day as long as it won't exceed to their limits right? Anyway, that's good to hear coz most of time my posting gap would average from 15mins or more. IDK but ever since that was really my time frame.
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March 30, 2023, 09:57:51 AM
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In my opinion, I think 15-20 post was already a lot in a day but I guess it would still be allowed as long as there is a 15-30 minutes gap between those post. Plus all of those posts are constructive and not just some sht posting on the forum. For me, 3-8 posts per day would I think will be the reasonable maximum post that you could do in a day. Considering if you are on a signature campaign posting more than eight I think would be spamming and probably on some campaigns lower than eight would be spamming or will not be counted as a post.

The way I see it is as long as you're doing or posting some kind of useful topic here in the forum the posting count would not really matter, but of course, it is impossible to create a constructive post or topics here if you posting without a huge gap since you also need to do some research on your topic or post unless it was just simple advice, plus it's suspicious that he doesn't get tired posting so he probably just copy and paste it that would be plagiarism and maybe use AI on that post, and probably it was some spammer who wanted to increase their post count or post for signature campaign.

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You can refer to LoyceV statistics. There you can see how many people and in what rank they write messages per hour, day, and seven days. It turns out to be very beautiful statistics; by the numbers, it is very easy to identify spammers. Basically, these are newbies who are in a hurry to increase their post activity and, as a rule, often lose them.

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Thanks for this one, I'll bookmark this for future usage. It saves a lot of trouble. I also agree that mostly it's from newbies, since they think that posting constantly will boost their account to high rank in just a day, or they maybe thinking that stacking so many activities will let them rank up once every 2 weeks, but in reality it's not.
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March 30, 2023, 12:44:42 PM
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It is rare for an old account to be banned due to spam, you will get a temporary ban and your continuation will usually cause you to be banned permanently.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
Some campaign managers consider this post bursting and may cause you to be kicked out of the campaign even if your posts are of high quality.
For me, On average 4 responses per hour is considered a maximum, and 15 per day I find to be too much.

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March 30, 2023, 02:32:53 PM
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
Uncertain as you said so somehow it has to be from the heart with a calm and clear mood but for now my average post is 4-6 sometimes more sometimes less than that but I have also not posted in 1 day if my heart being bad.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
From 20 - 60 minutes, sometimes more, this is equally erratic where when I find the right thread to comment on, I will do it and I also have to look for a few posts that I understand first, the flow of the thread.

But what I consider burstposting has a close time, for example 15 minutes makes 10 posts.

Spam, he posts carelessly that doesn't understand what's being discussed.

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March 30, 2023, 04:12:31 PM
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(@Op) As far as I know there are many types of such Brust posts like (for example) you posted 10 in 20 minutes. No one could learn anything from that post quality. Spammers post such posts carelessly without guessing the topic that the post has no informative meaning. And fast and there is no time gap to post such posts on Brust post list.

I think 20 to 30 minutes distance from one post to another is good.

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March 30, 2023, 04:22:02 PM
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I did this because I know for sure that you are well aware about some campaign managers who are strict with the campaigns they are managing and usually what they required are 5 posts a day and if the posts are consecutively done, are they still choosing from those consecutive posts?

I do not think there is any campaign or manager out there that requires 5 posts per day. My guess is that some managers set a limit of 5 posts per day as a maximum, which is a whole different ball game. They do this to motivate campaign participants to stay engaged throughout the week. But let me clarify - this does not mean you cannot post more or less than 5 times a day. It is totally up to you.

As for burst posting, that is pretty obvious to detect. You cannot make substantial posts about different topics with a time interval shorter than what is required to read the opening post or the post you are responding to. Meaningful engagement requires taking the time to read and understand the content of each post before responding in a thoughtful manner.

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March 30, 2023, 04:27:25 PM
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I remember Poker Player asking this question last year, I think post bursting is a subjective matter. Regular members and campaign managers have their opinion of what they consider burst posting. While some regular members may think a 20 minute gap between posts is fine, campaign managers are more concerned in the visibility of the signature on different hours throughout the day.

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March 30, 2023, 06:55:42 PM
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?

Perhaps my example is not the best. Roll Eyes

But giving the example of last week.
Last week I made 102 posts, which is an average of 14~15 posts per day. But there are days when I make less than 10 posts and I have days when I make more than 20 posts.

Honestly, I don't care much if I post a lot in a day or a little, although I like to keep track of the numbers, I just focus on posting on topics that I think I have something to say.

It's true that most of my posts are in the local tab, but my tab mates don't complain and like my participation (at least that's what they say Tongue ), so I think I make posts with some level of quality, within what it is acceptable.

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March 30, 2023, 07:27:47 PM
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I remember a day that I made 20 posts, the posts were on new topics and existing threads that I have something to post.
A few years ago I was making at least 20 posts per day on the regular, and they weren't spammy (AFAIK; I wasn't getting many, if any, deleted by the mods).  Everything depends on quality as far as I'm concerned, but I don't think there's ever been a concrete definition of "burst posting".  It's just one of those things where you know it when you see it.

Also, from what I can tell it's only ever been a problem for people in signature campaigns.  I don't recall ever hearing complaints about people posting too frequently if they weren't earning money from it--unless it was truly spam, i.e., off-topic nonsense or advertising links and such.  If campaign managers are cracking down on burst posting, I'm all for it though I can't say I've found any examples of it myself lately.

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It depends on the time you spend on the forum. I usually make about 20 posts a week and maybe 3-5 a day? I've been doing that for years, sometimes being in a campaign, sometimes not.
My posts are usually done in 2 hours max because I have other things to do and can't spend 6 hours reading and writing posts every day.

The way I see it, it doesn't matter how much time passes between your posts, because there are people who think and write fast, who open 2 discussions all at once and participate in both at the same time. There are also very active threads. A good example is wall observer that can go crazy when there's a sudden big price action and every few seconds there's a new post.
It's really easy to spot if someone is a spammer and time between posts is a secondary or tertiary indicator. You can write a post every 5 minutes and not be a spammer, because you're participating in an active discussion, or write a post every 30 minutes and be among the worst bot shit posters here.

If you get kicked out of a campaign because the manager thinks you're bursting, try to talk it through. Ask the manager to review the content of your posts and get him to tell you what the minimum required interval is. I can't help you here because I've never been warned about posting too fast, or too much.

Personally, being a manager, I wouldn't care if someone posts a lot and fast, but I would care if my campaign participants were making the required 7 day quota in 2 days. I'd probably also care if they were real spammers, writing gibberish in broken English, necro posting, quoting OP in every reply, posting oversized images, and so on.

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I think it also depends on two things. First is the boards the posts are made, for example, altcoins discussion is the place to go to spam or burst posts and go unnoticed because there are mostly mega threads. Local boards could also be exploited because the campaign manager and other members (except the local board members) will not be able to tell if the post is constructive or not. The other thing is how the person has been on the forum, if you have been here since 2016 or longer it won’t take much time to comments on topics because most of the topics on beginner & help are repetitive.

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Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. 
Spending 8 to 12 hours for the forum means you consider this as a job  Tongue. Churning out post after post without reading the previous posts is the only red flag especially if you are wearing a signature. If you are getting paid, make sure you give ample posting gap rather than posting everything at once to fulfill the target.
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
Currently, I have lots of time browsing here in the forum seeing different topics where I can share my opinion (I have a work-from-home job), so currently, I can make up to 10 posts per day at most or depending on my mood, but that's my average. I'm pretty sure there are more users here who can post more than what I'm posting. I often see people in my current campaign posting as high as 100 posts which is what I can't do (or I can, but my post quality will decrease significantly). Cheesy

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
For sure, we have different time gaps between posting, but what I'm following is that, the gap of my posts is at least 15-20 minutes. Sometimes, I'm making 2-3 per hour then I will stop for a few hours to do something then I will continue again.

Ps. I have created this thread knowing some of you would literally refer me another existing thread, or some kind of thread containing rules about posting. I  created this because I know you guys have different perspective on what is a spammer or a burst poster. I just want to know your perspective individually.
Spammers and Burst Posters are 2 different things (at least for me).

Spammers - those people who are just spamming worthless junk of texts just to increase their activity (and hoping to get some merits as well). Sometimes these people's post isn't constructive at all, and just posting a bunch of text with no context or meaning at all.

Burst Posters - these are the ones who are posting many times in a single day or a single week. I mean from the name itself, we can define what it is already. However, for me there are 2 types of Burst Posters. One who is posting many times in a single day or week, but his/her posts doesn't have any thought or meaning at all (considered spammer), and the other one is that, one who is posting many times in a single day or week, but all of his posts have meaning or have context.

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Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. 
Spending 8 to 12 hours for the forum means you consider this as a job  Tongue. Churning out post after post without reading the previous posts is the only red flag especially if you are wearing a signature. If you are getting paid, make sure you give ample posting gap rather than posting everything at once to fulfill the target.
I don't know how OP stay that long in the forum. Cheesy
You might be right that he might be considering signature campaign as his job already because he's spending the same time as an employee working in an office. On the other hand, there might be a chance that he might just be AFK while working in an office? Or he spends his first hours after waking up visiting the forum and then his remaining hours on the night browsing again, but still I don't know why OP is spending that much time while I'm only spending at average or 4 hours a day I think.

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