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Question: How much post you can do per day?
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30 minutes - 1 (7.1%)
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5 posts per day - 5 (35.7%)
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March 30, 2023, 06:56:36 AM
Last edit: March 30, 2023, 09:12:27 AM by speedy963
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I think this question is appropriate in this section. I just wanted to know how many posts you can do everyday and no other intentions.

Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. Though for sure there will be people here saying depending on a topic or "you don't care about the topic as long as you can post" thingy.

Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?



Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?







Ps. I have created this thread knowing some of you would literally refer me another existing thread, or some kind of thread containing rules about posting. I  created this because I know you guys have different perspective on what is a spammer or a burst poster. I just want to know your perspective individually.


(Edit. If someone happens to give merits to this thread, I'll be using it to help our local section Pilipinas to generate merit cycle. As it happens that our local section is active but the merit cycle isn't, besides that, we also don't have merit source due to various complications. Thanks in advance)
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March 30, 2023, 07:04:57 AM
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I just wanted to know how many posts you can do everyday and no other intentions.
I remember a day that I made 20 posts, the posts were on new topics and existing threads that I have something to post. There were days I made 1 or not more than 3 to 5. You can post as many as possible as you like, provided that your posts are meaningful, constructive and helping others. Those are not spams. But if anyone is spamming, the person would later be known and be given neutral trust or the person would be included in the lists of spammers.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
The gap between my post may be less than 3 to 5 minutes, it may also be more than 1 to several hours. It depends on new topics and continuous discussion on the existing threads of interest.

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March 30, 2023, 07:14:08 AM
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
On average I can make 5-8 posts comfortably with the number of hours I spend on the forum.
If I get more free time, I can easily see myself making more without burst posting or spamming. It all depends on what topics you are replying to and how much hours you spend on the forum.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
An acceptable number is relative. It can take one user 5-20 minutes to read through a thread and maybe do some searches on the topic to have something to write, but another user who has more knowledge on that topic can write something withing seconds. If they come across a couple of such posts consecutively, their gap could not be more than 1 or 2 minutes.

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March 30, 2023, 07:40:46 AM
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I remember a day that I made 20 posts, the posts were on new topics and existing threads that I have something to post. There were days I made 1 or not more than 3 to 5. You can post as many as possible as you like, provided that your posts are meaningful, constructive and helping others. Those are not spams. But if anyone is spamming, the person would later be known and be given neutral trust or the person would be included in the lists of spammers.

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The gap between my post may be less than 3 to 5 minutes, it may also be more than 1 to several hours. It depends on new topics and continuous discussion on the existing threads of interest.
Interesting! I did this because I know for sure that you are well aware about some campaign managers who are strict with the campaigns they are managing and usually what they required are 5 posts a day and if the posts are consecutively done, are they still choosing from those consecutive posts? for example they are done from 3-5 minutes? I know it's basically their own rule so I am somehow curious. Thanks for the feedback.

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On average I can make 5-8 posts comfortably with the number of hours I spend on the forum.
If I get more free time, I can easily see myself making more without burst posting or spamming. It all depends on what topics you are replying to and how much hours you spend on the forum.

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An acceptable number is relative. It can take one user 5-20 minutes to read through a thread and maybe do some searches on the topic to have something to write, but another user who has more knowledge on that topic can write something withing seconds. If they come across a couple of such posts consecutively, their gap could not be more than 1 or 2 minutes.

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Thanks for sharing your perspective. I am aware that everyone on this forum have different standards when it comes to posts quality and posting patterns, this is one of the reasons why I made this thread. Also it is relatable to merits since veteran members here would say that merit is subjective, it should also be a part of their criteria to consider how do you perform as a member here on this forum and the quality of posts as we can see in every signature campaigns here that they are strict when it comes to their rules like posts.
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March 30, 2023, 08:57:24 AM
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
Im not sure not even counting them but maybe 3 to 6 depends on the topic Ive engaged too. Sometimes could be less, or more if I am quite interested in the topic and discussion. Also considered that some or mostly are in signature campaign so they probably trying out to average their post daily, but gap within it there is no strict rule about that as far as I remember but dont be like 2 to 5mins gap, it seems obvious you are rushing to make your quota for the campaign.

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March 30, 2023, 09:16:06 AM
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
Im not sure not even counting them but maybe 3 to 6 depends on the topic Ive engaged too. Sometimes could be less, or more if I am quite interested in the topic and discussion. Also considered that some or mostly are in signature campaign so they probably trying out to average their post daily, but gap within it there is no strict rule about that as far as I remember but dont be like 2 to 5mins gap, it seems obvious you are rushing to make your quota for the campaign.
Thank you for your response. So that depends on the campaign manager and it is up to them how much post they'll be counting per day as long as it won't exceed to their limits right? Anyway, that's good to hear coz most of time my posting gap would average from 15mins or more. IDK but ever since that was really my time frame.
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March 30, 2023, 09:57:51 AM
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In my opinion, I think 15-20 post was already a lot in a day but I guess it would still be allowed as long as there is a 15-30 minutes gap between those post. Plus all of those posts are constructive and not just some sht posting on the forum. For me, 3-8 posts per day would I think will be the reasonable maximum post that you could do in a day. Considering if you are on a signature campaign posting more than eight I think would be spamming and probably on some campaigns lower than eight would be spamming or will not be counted as a post.

The way I see it is as long as you're doing or posting some kind of useful topic here in the forum the posting count would not really matter, but of course, it is impossible to create a constructive post or topics here if you posting without a huge gap since you also need to do some research on your topic or post unless it was just simple advice, plus it's suspicious that he doesn't get tired posting so he probably just copy and paste it that would be plagiarism and maybe use AI on that post, and probably it was some spammer who wanted to increase their post count or post for signature campaign.

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You can refer to LoyceV statistics. There you can see how many people and in what rank they write messages per hour, day, and seven days. It turns out to be very beautiful statistics; by the numbers, it is very easy to identify spammers. Basically, these are newbies who are in a hurry to increase their post activity and, as a rule, often lose them.

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You can refer to LoyceV statistics. There you can see how many people and in what rank they write messages per hour, day, and seven days. It turns out to be very beautiful statistics; by the numbers, it is very easy to identify spammers. Basically, these are newbies who are in a hurry to increase their post activity and, as a rule, often lose them.

https://loyce.club/active/7d.html
Thanks for this one, I'll bookmark this for future usage. It saves a lot of trouble. I also agree that mostly it's from newbies, since they think that posting constantly will boost their account to high rank in just a day, or they maybe thinking that stacking so many activities will let them rank up once every 2 weeks, but in reality it's not.
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March 30, 2023, 12:44:42 PM
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It is rare for an old account to be banned due to spam, you will get a temporary ban and your continuation will usually cause you to be banned permanently.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
Some campaign managers consider this post bursting and may cause you to be kicked out of the campaign even if your posts are of high quality.
For me, On average 4 responses per hour is considered a maximum, and 15 per day I find to be too much.

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March 30, 2023, 02:32:53 PM
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
Uncertain as you said so somehow it has to be from the heart with a calm and clear mood but for now my average post is 4-6 sometimes more sometimes less than that but I have also not posted in 1 day if my heart being bad.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
From 20 - 60 minutes, sometimes more, this is equally erratic where when I find the right thread to comment on, I will do it and I also have to look for a few posts that I understand first, the flow of the thread.

But what I consider burstposting has a close time, for example 15 minutes makes 10 posts.

Spam, he posts carelessly that doesn't understand what's being discussed.

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March 30, 2023, 04:12:31 PM
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(@Op) As far as I know there are many types of such Brust posts like (for example) you posted 10 in 20 minutes. No one could learn anything from that post quality. Spammers post such posts carelessly without guessing the topic that the post has no informative meaning. And fast and there is no time gap to post such posts on Brust post list.

I think 20 to 30 minutes distance from one post to another is good.

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I did this because I know for sure that you are well aware about some campaign managers who are strict with the campaigns they are managing and usually what they required are 5 posts a day and if the posts are consecutively done, are they still choosing from those consecutive posts?

I do not think there is any campaign or manager out there that requires 5 posts per day. My guess is that some managers set a limit of 5 posts per day as a maximum, which is a whole different ball game. They do this to motivate campaign participants to stay engaged throughout the week. But let me clarify - this does not mean you cannot post more or less than 5 times a day. It is totally up to you.

As for burst posting, that is pretty obvious to detect. You cannot make substantial posts about different topics with a time interval shorter than what is required to read the opening post or the post you are responding to. Meaningful engagement requires taking the time to read and understand the content of each post before responding in a thoughtful manner.

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I remember Poker Player asking this question last year, I think post bursting is a subjective matter. Regular members and campaign managers have their opinion of what they consider burst posting. While some regular members may think a 20 minute gap between posts is fine, campaign managers are more concerned in the visibility of the signature on different hours throughout the day.

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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?

Perhaps my example is not the best. Roll Eyes

But giving the example of last week.
Last week I made 102 posts, which is an average of 14~15 posts per day. But there are days when I make less than 10 posts and I have days when I make more than 20 posts.

Honestly, I don't care much if I post a lot in a day or a little, although I like to keep track of the numbers, I just focus on posting on topics that I think I have something to say.

It's true that most of my posts are in the local tab, but my tab mates don't complain and like my participation (at least that's what they say Tongue ), so I think I make posts with some level of quality, within what it is acceptable.

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I remember a day that I made 20 posts, the posts were on new topics and existing threads that I have something to post.
A few years ago I was making at least 20 posts per day on the regular, and they weren't spammy (AFAIK; I wasn't getting many, if any, deleted by the mods).  Everything depends on quality as far as I'm concerned, but I don't think there's ever been a concrete definition of "burst posting".  It's just one of those things where you know it when you see it.

Also, from what I can tell it's only ever been a problem for people in signature campaigns.  I don't recall ever hearing complaints about people posting too frequently if they weren't earning money from it--unless it was truly spam, i.e., off-topic nonsense or advertising links and such.  If campaign managers are cracking down on burst posting, I'm all for it though I can't say I've found any examples of it myself lately.

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It depends on the time you spend on the forum. I usually make about 20 posts a week and maybe 3-5 a day? I've been doing that for years, sometimes being in a campaign, sometimes not.
My posts are usually done in 2 hours max because I have other things to do and can't spend 6 hours reading and writing posts every day.

The way I see it, it doesn't matter how much time passes between your posts, because there are people who think and write fast, who open 2 discussions all at once and participate in both at the same time. There are also very active threads. A good example is wall observer that can go crazy when there's a sudden big price action and every few seconds there's a new post.
It's really easy to spot if someone is a spammer and time between posts is a secondary or tertiary indicator. You can write a post every 5 minutes and not be a spammer, because you're participating in an active discussion, or write a post every 30 minutes and be among the worst bot shit posters here.

If you get kicked out of a campaign because the manager thinks you're bursting, try to talk it through. Ask the manager to review the content of your posts and get him to tell you what the minimum required interval is. I can't help you here because I've never been warned about posting too fast, or too much.

Personally, being a manager, I wouldn't care if someone posts a lot and fast, but I would care if my campaign participants were making the required 7 day quota in 2 days. I'd probably also care if they were real spammers, writing gibberish in broken English, necro posting, quoting OP in every reply, posting oversized images, and so on.

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I think it also depends on two things. First is the boards the posts are made, for example, altcoins discussion is the place to go to spam or burst posts and go unnoticed because there are mostly mega threads. Local boards could also be exploited because the campaign manager and other members (except the local board members) will not be able to tell if the post is constructive or not. The other thing is how the person has been on the forum, if you have been here since 2016 or longer it won’t take much time to comments on topics because most of the topics on beginner & help are repetitive.

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Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. 
Spending 8 to 12 hours for the forum means you consider this as a job  Tongue. Churning out post after post without reading the previous posts is the only red flag especially if you are wearing a signature. If you are getting paid, make sure you give ample posting gap rather than posting everything at once to fulfill the target.
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
Currently, I have lots of time browsing here in the forum seeing different topics where I can share my opinion (I have a work-from-home job), so currently, I can make up to 10 posts per day at most or depending on my mood, but that's my average. I'm pretty sure there are more users here who can post more than what I'm posting. I often see people in my current campaign posting as high as 100 posts which is what I can't do (or I can, but my post quality will decrease significantly). Cheesy

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
For sure, we have different time gaps between posting, but what I'm following is that, the gap of my posts is at least 15-20 minutes. Sometimes, I'm making 2-3 per hour then I will stop for a few hours to do something then I will continue again.

Ps. I have created this thread knowing some of you would literally refer me another existing thread, or some kind of thread containing rules about posting. I  created this because I know you guys have different perspective on what is a spammer or a burst poster. I just want to know your perspective individually.
Spammers and Burst Posters are 2 different things (at least for me).

Spammers - those people who are just spamming worthless junk of texts just to increase their activity (and hoping to get some merits as well). Sometimes these people's post isn't constructive at all, and just posting a bunch of text with no context or meaning at all.

Burst Posters - these are the ones who are posting many times in a single day or a single week. I mean from the name itself, we can define what it is already. However, for me there are 2 types of Burst Posters. One who is posting many times in a single day or week, but his/her posts doesn't have any thought or meaning at all (considered spammer), and the other one is that, one who is posting many times in a single day or week, but all of his posts have meaning or have context.

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Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. 
Spending 8 to 12 hours for the forum means you consider this as a job  Tongue. Churning out post after post without reading the previous posts is the only red flag especially if you are wearing a signature. If you are getting paid, make sure you give ample posting gap rather than posting everything at once to fulfill the target.
I don't know how OP stay that long in the forum. Cheesy
You might be right that he might be considering signature campaign as his job already because he's spending the same time as an employee working in an office. On the other hand, there might be a chance that he might just be AFK while working in an office? Or he spends his first hours after waking up visiting the forum and then his remaining hours on the night browsing again, but still I don't know why OP is spending that much time while I'm only spending at average or 4 hours a day I think.

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There is so much to quote so I'll just reply generally. First of, by staying in this forum doesn't mean I refer this as regular job coz I am not paid staying here to be honest, and there's no campaigns yet that are accepting me, maybe due to I didn't have enough merits or so but regardless, currently I didn't have a job due to personal reasons, the same reason why I stayed home and watch over the house, and since I don't have anything to do whole day, much better if I spend it here on this forum right? instead of watching TV series whole day I'd rather make it more productive.

In regards to all of those replies, I've read all of your replies and most of you didn't matter how long the post gap is as long as the reply is relevant to topic. In short, most of you guys are actively contributing in this community and more importantly you guys have different perspective when it comes to post. See? This is the reason why I asked this in the first place, coz way back then each campaign managers have different standards when it come to post activities within a day, but now although not a lot has changed, each member here on this forum have different opinions in regards of what is considered burst posting. Therefore I conclude that it had became an unwritten rule here, correct me if I'm wrong.

I have remembered back then whenever there's a topic that I wanted to post/reply I'll write a draft ready to be posted and just wait for the time to hit 10 mins or so just because I don't want to consecutively post replies. Sometimes I would even open multiple tabs and reply at the same time but will just wait after few minutes before clicking post. Is what I did back then forbidden? To be honest there isn't anyone I knew where I could ask that question, and it's bugging me for years coz maybe I'd get banned or something.
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each member here on this forum have different opinions in regards of what is considered burst posting. Therefore I conclude that it had became an unwritten rule here, correct me if I'm wrong.
It's not an unwritten rule, but just a subjective matter.
An unwritten rule is like how someone want to send his sMerit, you can give 50 merits in one post by satoshi and no one will care about it. But if you give 50 merits in one post by brand new newbie, someone will create a new thread in Reputation.

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I have remembered back then whenever there's a topic that I wanted to post/reply I'll write a draft ready to be posted and just wait for the time to hit 10 mins or so just because I don't want to consecutively post replies. Sometimes I would even open multiple tabs and reply at the same time but will just wait after few minutes before clicking post. Is what I did back then forbidden?
It's fine, there's no rule you're broke here. I will say that's a trick how you really want to give a gap time from one to another, there's no trace you leave if you use this.

While some regular members may think a 20 minute gap between posts is fine, campaign managers are more concerned in the visibility of the signature on different hours throughout the day.
If the user only post in the same thread, it's make sense the posts should have a gap time, but if the poster is create post in different thread/section, I don't see any difference why it's need a gap time.

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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
I am not sure if there are any restrictions on the number of posts because I have never had issues where I am told that I have exceeded the maximum number of posts per day or week. I have done up to seven to each posts in a day when I am on holiday and have some extra time. But currently, I spend close to two to three hours on the forum and my post count a day is between 4-6.

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Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
I think the forum places more emphasis on quality and not necessarily the time gap. Although fewer time gaps are one of the main features of spammers and low-quality posters it cannot be used as a scale to judge or assess the quality of posts. My time gain depends on how knowledgeable I am about a topic. If I have a vast knowledge about some topics, my reply might take less time compared to the one that I have to make research for more understanding.





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An unwritten rule is like how someone want to send his sMerit, you can give 50 merits in one post by satoshi and no one will care about it. But if you give 50 merits in one post by brand new newbie, someone will create a new thread in Reputation.
I can already see someone doing that in Reputation section hahahaha.
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It's fine, there's no rule you're broke here. I will say that's a trick how you really want to give a gap time from one to another, there's no trace you leave if you use this.
Replying in the same thread or not I still leave gaps. IDK about other but that's just how I post. I have also seen back then someone being scolded for replying all the posts individually when you can just quote them instead.

While some regular members may think a 20 minute gap between posts is fine, campaign managers are more concerned in the visibility of the signature on different hours throughout the day.
If the user only post in the same thread, it's make sense the posts should have a gap time, but if the poster is create post in different thread/section, I don't see any difference why it's need a gap time.

There're still people like me who leaves gaps in their posting time even if it's on different thread not just to be considered a spam maybe it's  just some sort of hobby or maybe they just wanted their account latest/past posts to be clean just like in my case.  Grin
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There're still people like me who leaves gaps in their posting time even if it's on different thread not just to be considered a spam maybe it's  just some sort of hobby or maybe they just wanted their account latest/past posts to be clean just like in my case.  Grin

If the person posts in a natural way, in response to some subject, sharing information or expressing his personal opinion about something, it is really irrelevant to post too fast in several topics.

Speaking of myself, I can keep up with several subjects at the same time, so it's not difficult for me to comment on two different topics in a short period of time.

It all depends on whether the other users who are participating with you in the topic are active and respond quickly to your post.

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I have remembered back then whenever there's a topic that I wanted to post/reply I'll write a draft ready to be posted and just wait for the time to hit 10 mins or so just because I don't want to consecutively post replies. Sometimes I would even open multiple tabs and reply at the same time but will just wait after few minutes before clicking post. Is what I did back then forbidden? To be honest there isn't anyone I knew where I could ask that question, and it's bugging me for years coz maybe I'd get banned or something.
Mods wont ban you for posting all the contents within a minute. But if you are wearing a signature, the purpose is to advertise them diligently and the good campaign managers make sure that the posts are spread appropriately so that the purpose of advertisement is fulfilled.
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2/3 posts each day, depending on bounty I'm enrolled in plus quotes/mentions I get during day, I try to reply each one unless overwhelmed by responses.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?

None, as long as response is on topic who cares?

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There're still people like me who leaves gaps in their posting time even if it's on different thread not just to be considered a spam maybe it's  just some sort of hobby or maybe they just wanted their account latest/past posts to be clean just like in my case.  Grin

If the person posts in a natural way, in response to some subject, sharing information or expressing his personal opinion about something, it is really irrelevant to post too fast in several topics.

Speaking of myself, I can keep up with several subjects at the same time, so it's not difficult for me to comment on two different topics in a short period of time.

It all depends on whether the other users who are participating with you in the topic are active and respond quickly to your post.
That is exactly right. IMO, if you are responding and contributing into the discussion, that is not considered as a spam, not unless you jump from topic-to-topic writing whatever comes into your mind without a care just to compose/construct sentences to reach the minimum words of 150 is most probably considered a burst posting. Just like you do too, I am also someone who can keep up with several subjects at the same time, maybe it is called multi-tasking or so, but regardless of that, it is something that needs constant practice and requires you to voluntarily control your focus so that you won't mixed up all your replies.

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It goes with the habit and the required post you need to do to hit the mark I average 5 posts daily but I make sure that these two are there on all my posts, 30 to 1-hour gap on my first three posts and then I will rest for 6 to 7 hours to wait for another topic that I can participate.
The most important thing is the posts, they should be within topics and not redundant, you will be judged on your posts first if it has substance and not just rewritten coming from other posts.

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That is exactly right. IMO, if you are responding and contributing into the discussion, that is not considered as a spam, not unless you jump from topic-to-topic writing whatever comes into your mind without a care just to compose/construct sentences to reach the minimum words of 150 is most probably considered a burst posting. Just like you do too, I am also someone who can keep up with several subjects at the same time, maybe it is called multi-tasking or so, but regardless of that, it is something that needs constant practice and requires you to voluntarily control your focus so that you won't mixed up all your replies.

That's right. That's why if a topic is too many replies to the OP or too many replies after my post, we have to spend more time to understand the point of the conversation. That way I'll be able to see if I have something to add or not to the subject.

Of course, sometimes, we can repeat one or another information that has already been said, but if we are original and genuine, we will certainly present that same information from another point of view that can help the debate.

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I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood.
That's apt. One's mood matters a great deal when it comes to interactions. Posting on this forum is interaction (that's the way I see it). Any post that isn't interactive will obviously paint a picture of spam. Those who post in isolation – posting without addressing the topic of discussion– know what I'm saying here.

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what is your average number of posts?
My average will be around six per day. This is putting into consideration that there are days are get fired up and make over 10 posts in a day while on certain days I don't even make up to five posts. Also, sometimes I get distracted from the forum and end up not making a single post.

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For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
That would depend on how knowledgeable and resourceful the community thinks your posts are. I've see reputable members post in less than 5 minutes time gap and no one called them out on that. I don't know if I've fallen into such short time duration but I do like to space my posts as best as I can.


Summarily, I think what matters most is what is posted as against its time space.

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I don't think time gap between one post and another post is not reason not to say someone spammer, to me that's not true. Spam is still spam even if they only make one post in one day, and it all depends on the quality and how constructive the post is. Even if you post every 5 minutes, making 50 posts in one day or more, but as long as you pay attention to quality and be constructive on the topic then you are not spammer. Burst and spam posts are also subjective things, it will differ from one user to another.

I think I know why you made this question but if I may suggest to you, then don't make post explode in one day just if it's because you want to get paid in the last day or two. This is very likely to be classified as burts post or even spam as I'm sure you will have hard time making it as constructive as possible.

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https://ninjastic.space/user/_BlackStar - mine
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It is possible to make a post under 5 minutes which may not violate any forum rules so its subjective to the intention of the post not the numbers, usually campaigns consider there should be atleast 30 mins gap between their post or else it will be considered as burst posting then people wrote x number of posts in a notepad or somewhere then keep posting it in between the right intervals that is why most of the signature campaigns have max cap post towards post quota for weekly payments but you can make as much as you want.

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April 07, 2023, 08:12:53 PM
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It is possible to make a post under 5 minutes which may not violate any forum rules so its subjective to the intention of the post not the numbers, usually campaigns consider there should be atleast 30 mins gap between their post or else it will be considered as burst posting then people wrote x number of posts in a notepad or somewhere then keep posting it in between the right intervals that is why most of the signature campaigns have max cap post towards post quota for weekly payments but you can make as much as you want.
Here is limits on posting. Anyone who has an if (activity >= 100) then they can post every 4 seconds.

Limits on posting

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waittime = 360;
if(activity >= 15)
        waittime = (int)(90 - activity);
if(activity >= 60)
        waittime=(int)(34.7586 - (0.0793103 * activity));
if(activity >= 100)
        waittime = max((int)(14-(activity/50)), 4);

About spam, low quality posts, burst posts, or off-topic it is something else. This means nothing is going to stop you from posting every 4 seconds assuming you have >=100 activity points unless you are spammer. But the time span between one post and another also needs to be considered because it can provide space for you to write something constructive and of high quality. If you are an AI, you may be able to have short timeframe due to the quality of your posts.

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April 07, 2023, 11:34:29 PM
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Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. Though for sure there will be people here saying depending on a topic or "you don't care about the topic as long as you can post" thingy.

Why do you consider everyone a spammer who posts a certain large number of posts each day ? There can be people who may post 10 or 12 (maybe more) posts per day and yet all of those posts are constructive ones. There can be a person who post only 3 or 4 posts a day with 1 hour gap and yet his posts may be useless and spam.

In order to identify the spammers, Look for the Quality of posts first over the quantity of posts. Yeah, I agree that burst posting will affect the quality of posting as you won't be spending much time writing / reviewing your posts.

(Edit. If someone happens to give merits to this thread, I'll be using it to help our local section Pilipinas to generate merit cycle. As it happens that our local section is active but the merit cycle isn't, besides that, we also don't have merit source due to various complications. Thanks in advance)

I don't think it is the right way and it indirectly suggests that you are asking for merits but telling where you may spend them. If people like your post, they will merit it and you can spend them wherever you like. Smiley

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April 08, 2023, 09:11:23 AM
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That is exactly right. IMO, if you are responding and contributing into the discussion, that is not considered as a spam, not unless you jump from topic-to-topic writing whatever comes into your mind without a care just to compose/construct sentences to reach the minimum words of 150 is most probably considered a burst posting. Just like you do too, I am also someone who can keep up with several subjects at the same time, maybe it is called multi-tasking or so, but regardless of that, it is something that needs constant practice and requires you to voluntarily control your focus so that you won't mixed up all your replies.

That's right. That's why if a topic is too many replies to the OP or too many replies after my post, we have to spend more time to understand the point of the conversation. That way I'll be able to see if I have something to add or not to the subject.

Of course, sometimes, we can repeat one or another information that has already been said, but if we are original and genuine, we will certainly present that same information from another point of view that can help the debate.
To be honest, it is really hard to construct short and precise message or words without repeating some information presented while adding the fact that there are minimum numbers of character and words that is required for you to become a valid poster that isn't only good at adding flowery words. As I've said that it requires constant practice to voluntarily control your focus since those things cannot be achieved by being a nonchalant poster alone. We should also keep in mind that what we replied is something not only straight to the point but also relevant to the topic and also for others to engage with it or even a new knowledge you can add to it. Although this is irrelevant, this is mostly why in my free time I usually read books even fictional novels to expand my vocabulary and to increase knowledge about constructing sentences, coz whether I like it or not and even if English is our international language, I am not born from a native English-speaking country, so if I wanted to converse with anyone using general language which is English, I still needed to become more comprehensive. Replying isn't all about speaking English alone but also understanding the context of what you really are replying to, so far that's what I've learned here from staying on this platform.

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April 08, 2023, 10:26:10 AM
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For me, burst posting does not exist as an absolute concept but in relation to quality. If someone writes posts at intervals of 5 to 10 minutes on average and they are of quality, he is not a burst poster.

Besides no one usually writes posts with such short time intervals continuously. The normal thing is to enter the forum, write 2 or 3 posts, and then come back in after a while and write more. So between some posts there are gaps of between 10 and 20 minutes, but maybe between the first and the second session there is a gap of a couple of hours.

For forum purposes I would say not to look so much at the interval between posts as at the quality of the posts, and for signature campaigns purposes I would introduce something else. For example someone who is 10 posts short of the weekly quota and writes them on the last day with short intervals is probably burst posting, and some campaigns have explicit rules against it. On the other hand, someone writes with 10 minute intervals but writes 7 days a week normally in different time slots and with quality? He won't be a burst poster.

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April 08, 2023, 10:51:11 AM
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Anyone who has an if (activity >= 100) then they can post every 4 seconds.
That's incorrect. With Activity = 100, you have to wait 12 seconds between posts. The minimum of 4 seconds is only reached when Activity = 500. The 12 seconds is totally fine for normal posting, but the 4 seconds is often annoying when reporting spam.

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Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. Though for sure there will be people here saying depending on a topic or "you don't care about the topic as long as you can post" thingy.

Why do you consider everyone a spammer who posts a certain large number of posts each day ? There can be people who may post 10 or 12 (maybe more) posts per day and yet all of those posts are constructive ones. There can be a person who post only 3 or 4 posts a day with 1 hour gap and yet his posts may be useless and spam.

In order to identify the spammers, Look for the Quality of posts first over the quantity of posts. Yeah, I agree that burst posting will affect the quality of posting as you won't be spending much time writing / reviewing your posts.

That makes sense since if I were to choose between posters I'd rather choose good quality posts which are relevant to the topic, and there is also a chance that a specific member is just actively participating on the discussion and he is also contributing on that topic. It isn't fair if that person would be labeled as a burst poster right? He/She should also know what he is doing in the forum and of course would also know the rules.

(Edit. If someone happens to give merits to this thread, I'll be using it to help our local section Pilipinas to generate merit cycle. As it happens that our local section is active but the merit cycle isn't, besides that, we also don't have merit source due to various complications. Thanks in advance)

I don't think it is the right way and it indirectly suggests that you are asking for merits but telling where you may spend them. If people like your post, they will merit it and you can spend them wherever you like. Smiley

I don't mind if somebody reading this would misinterpret it and it is also not right to say that I am not indirectly asking for merits, coz that's what already there is on the first post and I am also aware that begging for merits is subjective to red tags. This is just an "if ever", coz it is still their choice whether they'll give me or not, or whether I deserve that kind of merit. It's not like I just made this topic on purpose of asking merits without participating on the discussion. I am just honestly and genuinely curious to your perspective here on this forum as to what you guys consider as a burst poster. I am also very aware that the replies here on the discussion could even have merits than the thread. I only did it as some kind of exclamation. Both of us too are aware that asking for donations is the same as begging. I hope this doesn't offend anyone  Cheesy.
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April 08, 2023, 12:01:05 PM
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I don't mind if somebody reading this would misinterpret it and it is also not right to say that I am not indirectly asking for merits, coz that's what already there is on the first post and I am also aware that begging for merits is subjective to red tags. This is just an "if ever", coz it is still their choice whether they'll give me or not, or whether I deserve that kind of merit. It's not like I just made this topic on purpose of asking merits without participating on the discussion.
The unofficial rules states 'no begging', but if the trust system is used correctly, it doesn't mean negative feedbacks ought to be given when someone begs for merits (or other things), the user and their post should be reported to the moderator and they'll handle it, but then if the person begs excessively, then a neutral tag is what should be given.

Having said that, it is somewhat unnecessary to talk about what you'd do with the Smerits generated from the possible merits received on your post, many users here consider it begging, and even if they wanted to merit the post initially, they could then change their mind. If merits is lacking in your local section, then you should make a thread and apply to be a merit source in your local board, or you request reputable users in your local section to apply to be a merit source.

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April 08, 2023, 12:24:17 PM
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There're still people like me who leaves gaps in their posting time even if it's on different thread not just to be considered a spam maybe it's  just some sort of hobby or maybe they just wanted their account latest/past posts to be clean just like in my case.  Grin

The questions here should be, is there a maximum amount of post limits per day the forum has stated that should be followed by the community, No there isn't. The only time I know the forum restricts you from posting simultaneously is when you're a newbie. Other's are free to post as much as they want, provided they aren't delivery low quality posts, it doesn't matter how many post you post per day. Campaign either aren't supposed to detect how many posts we can make. If you're in a campaigns that counts only 5 posts a day doesn't mean you should be making only 5 posts per day. You can make as many posts as you want and the campaign manager chooses which best 5 he should qualify for the daily posts count same as the weekly quota.

Burst posting should be about quality as others have highlighted and I support that argument instead of quantity of posts. Personally my posts number can vary between 5 to 15 posts per day depending on how chatty I'm for the day. Some days they come in interval of minutes while others days hours and I believe same can be said about others too and weren't trying to burst post. When we can say a usual is honestly burst posting is when he makes a certain amount of posts in the last hours before the end of his campaign week, just to beat the cut for eligiblity of payments for that week.

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April 08, 2023, 12:39:28 PM
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No matter how many hours I spend on the forum. Sometimes I find myself that I have almost nothing to post. I wouldn't say I like posting on a thread where I have no genuine interest. If I do, I end up posting shit that I don't want to. I should be bold here. Usually, I don't post in gambling sections. If I post there just for the signature campaign requirements (My current signature campaign doesn't require me to post there), that will be a shit post. I like discussing Cricket games, and luckily Cricket Discussion thread is available in the gambling section.

I have another side of the Story as well. Sometimes I come to the forum and see a lot of threads where I am interested and want to write a considerable number of posts in a short time. When I see good topics I am interested in, I can write posts with around ten minutes gaps. I track a reputed user with the super notifier bot. Sometimes I see him write posts with 10 minutes gap, which is not post-bursting, in my opinion.

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April 08, 2023, 01:16:56 PM
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We all have different categories of how people post on this forum, some were inky for their signature campaign requirements only, some do not post base on participating on a signature campaign and have no interest in any, while the last set of people were those that combine the both, which means their posting patterns cannot be predicted, they post both on their post requirements for participating in a signature campaign and also post beyond the required limit, same also we have with the time each member comes online to the forum to make post, in line with their daily schedules.

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April 08, 2023, 04:51:16 PM
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In my opinion, burst posting refers to when someone repeatedly posts messages in the forum with less than a 5 mins gap between each post. This kind of behavior is considered spamming and is not tolerated. As a normal member, I believe that there should be a gap of 5 to 10 minutes between posts. However, this time span may vary depending on how fast a person writes and comes up with ideas to share.

The issue arises when users who are already part of a signature campaign start posting excessively in the last 24 hours before the payment day. Some campaign managers have enforced rules to address this problem, such as not paying users who post more than 30% or (40%) of their total posts in a single day. I think this is an excellent way to prevent spam and would recommend other signature campaign managers to adopt similar measures.
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In my opinion, burst posting refers to when someone repeatedly posts messages in the forum with less than a 5 mins gap between each post. This kind of behavior is considered spamming and is not tolerated. As a normal member, I believe that there should be a gap of 5 to 10 minutes between posts. However, this time span may vary depending on how fast a person writes and comes up with ideas to share.
OK, pay attention to this point. If you can post every 5 minutes, you have fast writing skills, you know the topic with possessive knowledge, the quality of your posts is good [above average] - would you agree if someone thought you were spammer and burst poster?

The case is definitely very different from one user to another, but if you are ordinary posters, then waiting time between posts is good for you so you have a chance to think about how you can make quality post. The point is in the quality of your post, you have to remember it correctly.

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April 09, 2023, 10:49:03 AM
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It doesn't matter how many posts you post a day that you are a spammer. Basically depends on your post whether you are a blast post or a spammer. Many people make various irrelevant posts on the forum which do not make any sense.  And their posting style completely violates forum rules.  Basically they are spammers. 

When posting always consider what type of post you are making. Two constructive posts will contribute to the forum rather than twenty irrelevant posts. So instead of posting twenty irrelevant posts, we should post two constructive ones. And if you feel that the posts you are sharing are constructive and useful for the forum and people are getting information from your posts then you can post with some time gap and your posts will never be burst posts.

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April 11, 2023, 02:18:26 AM
 #47

In my opinion, burst posting refers to when someone repeatedly posts messages in the forum with less than a 5 mins gap between each post. This kind of behavior is considered spamming and is not tolerated. As a normal member, I believe that there should be a gap of 5 to 10 minutes between posts. However, this time span may vary depending on how fast a person writes and comes up with ideas to share.
OK, pay attention to this point. If you can post every 5 minutes, you have fast writing skills, you know the topic with possessive knowledge, the quality of your posts is good [above average] - would you agree if someone thought you were spammer and burst poster?

The case is definitely very different from one user to another, but if you are ordinary posters, then waiting time between posts is good for you so you have a chance to think about how you can make quality post. The point is in the quality of your post, you have to remember it correctly.
It is quality over quantity to be exact. Creating posts and replying takes a long time for new users but for those who stayed long enough, they are able to contruct narratives easily while being on point. It is expected that new users will try to rank up by posting so much everyday, but we should also consider that it takes 2 weeks to update your activity. At least they already have posts stock already, but does your posts at least decent enough to be called average? If it's not then you should think twice before posting again. This is why it is recommended for new users to explore first, read and learn before posting or replying into something they can relate the topic to.

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April 11, 2023, 04:50:12 AM
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OK, pay attention to this point. If you can post every 5 minutes, you have fast writing skills, you know the topic with possessive knowledge, the quality of your posts is good [above average] - would you agree if someone thought you were spammer and burst poster?

The case is definitely very different from one user to another, but if you are ordinary posters, then waiting time between posts is good for you so you have a chance to think about how you can make quality post. The point is in the quality of your post, you have to remember it correctly.
I think difficult finding topic and getting source information for make posting on every 5 minutes, possibility some one have prepare it before and make posting every 5 minutes but has already source link for posting. But post on every 5 minutes will category as burst post and warning for participants joined with signature campaign will be disqualify.

Effective make post every one hour and have enough time preparing for second post and get source information how to use for second post, but depending with every one skill and if some one have possibility with smart think maybe they can get short time for preparing to second post.

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April 11, 2023, 05:18:34 AM
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I think difficult finding topic and getting source information for make posting on every 5 minutes, possibility some one have prepare it before and make posting every 5 minutes but has already source link for posting. But post on every 5 minutes will category as burst post and warning for participants joined with signature campaign will be disqualify.

Effective make post every one hour and have enough time preparing for second post and get source information how to use for second post, but depending with every one skill and if some one have possibility with smart think maybe they can get short time for preparing to second post.
I can't remember which one have 5 minutes gap every post, but I know there are many members have 10 minutes gap every post in this forum. If you think user who have 10 minutes gap is a burst poster and he should be kicked from the campaign, you're wrong because they're participating in the highest paid signature campaign and they never get kicked until the campaign end.

A user who post every one hour isn't always a good poster and a user who post every 5 minutes isn't always a bad poster.

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April 11, 2023, 07:43:17 AM
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I think difficult finding topic and getting source information for make posting on every 5 minutes, possibility some one have prepare it before and make posting every 5 minutes but has already source link for posting. But post on every 5 minutes will category as burst post and warning for participants joined with signature campaign will be disqualify.

Effective make post every one hour and have enough time preparing for second post and get source information how to use for second post, but depending with every one skill and if some one have possibility with smart think maybe they can get short time for preparing to second post.
I can't remember which one have 5 minutes gap every post, but I know there are many members have 10 minutes gap every post in this forum. If you think user who have 10 minutes gap is a burst poster and he should be kicked from the campaign, you're wrong because they're participating in the highest paid signature campaign and they never get kicked until the campaign end.

A user who post every one hour isn't always a good poster and a user who post every 5 minutes isn't always a bad poster.
I have few acquaintances before that does this exactly like making a post and save it as a draft and then just copy paste it for the exact thread they wanted to reply. I learned about this because this is one of the tricks, they taught me before. Did I follow their steps? No, this type of strategy doesn't sit well with me, it's okay to do it like this if you are replying to the OP (general topic) but if you are making replies with other members like what I am doing right now, it is hard to do that, since each member has their own point of view they wanted to share and if you didn't get exactly what they wanted to convey, your replies will be off topic.

Indeed, it's true that time gaps for posting isn't that really mattered as long as you are on topic, and you are engaging with your fellow members here. I remembered when I was 5th grade my teacher said that to be able to have communication there must be MESSAGE to RECEIVER to REPLY, and that's how I differentiate this forum since this was made to provoke discussions with wide range of topics to choose from, so it's no wonder each member is focusing on different topics and replying differently on every thread.

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April 14, 2023, 07:19:30 AM
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There is nothing like post bursting.
If there is, it is not a problem to the forum.
If it was to be a problem, theymos would have edited the forum code such that you cannot post if you do not have upto 5mins delay after a previous post.
Since there's nothing like this implemented, it therefore means that post bursting isn't a problem.

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April 14, 2023, 09:42:53 AM
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In my opinion, burst posting refers to when someone repeatedly posts messages in the forum with less than a 5 mins gap between each post. This kind of behavior is considered spamming and is not tolerated. As a normal member, I believe that there should be a gap of 5 to 10 minutes between posts. However, this time span may vary depending on how fast a person writes and comes up with ideas to share.
OK, pay attention to this point. If you can post every 5 minutes, you have fast writing skills, you know the topic with possessive knowledge, the quality of your posts is good [above average] - would you agree if someone thought you were spammer and burst poster?

The case is definitely very different from one user to another, but if you are ordinary posters, then waiting time between posts is good for you so you have a chance to think about how you can make quality post. The point is in the quality of your post, you have to remember it correctly.
Very accurate the level and speed of comprehension varies among users. But on average posters should wait 5-10 minutes before  engaging in a different discussion because that way it will give them more time to think and as well help them come up with more constructive, argumentative and concrete posts.

Some posters can be constructive no matter how short the timing between their posts are but if they give more time to thinking and understanding a post they will eventually do more better than they would have done while the rushed into discussion. Spamming sometimes doesn't occur intentionally it could happen as a result of rushing into discussing a post that has not been well understood by the poster.
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There is nothing like post bursting.
If there is, it is not a problem to the forum.
If it was to be a problem, theymos would have edited the forum code such that you cannot post if you do not have upto 5mins delay after a previous post.
Since there's nothing like this implemented, it therefore means that post bursting isn't a problem.

Burst posting is a problem in itself as it will never help you make a constructive post.

For example, can you make let's suppose 4 good posts in a matter of 30 mins in different threads? You need to read the few posts above, understand the conversation and then post your point of view. If you are not doing this, then you're only posting to complete the quota of the campaign in order to get the payment.

By the way, you cannot survive long in a campaign with the habit of burst posting as good campaign managers will soon identify your behavior and replace you with those who pay attention to the details.

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In addition to what has already been mentioned, as a newbie I have seen some individuals strive to meet the requisite number of posts in a campaign in a short amount of time, which results in them having bad postings and some of them getting abounded.
This is due to their lack of concentration and the fact that they are only here to make money rather than have an influence

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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
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If I'm interested in the topic and have something to say, if the discussion is active, then I see no reason to count number of posts. I guess it was over 50 a day when I was passionate. But usually it is not what will happen every day. If one day I post tens of posts usually I feel myself tired of posting and make much less next. So there is no average posts amount, it depends on topics I read in exact day.

If there is a signature I can be a little more motivated, but I feel myself much more comfortable with campaigns without minimum quota as I don't like to feel that posting should be done.

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If I'm interested in the topic and have something to say, if the discussion is active, then I see no reason to count number of posts. I guess it was over 50 a day when I was passionate. But usually it is not what will happen every day. If one day I post tens of posts usually I feel myself tired of posting and make much less next. So there is no average posts amount, it depends on topics I read in exact day.
As long as users are making quality posts then I don't think quantity is much of a concern even if they are creating them every 5 minutes per post. I never expected that users would be so guilty when they can make 50 posts per day with good discussion quality. Even if the campaign manager limits the 4-5 posts per day they pay or count, there is no reason why they should stop you from posting more than the amount they pay per day or per week.


If there is a signature I can be a little more motivated, but I feel myself much more comfortable with campaigns without minimum quota as I don't like to feel that posting should be done.
Of course, many people would feel the same way about that.

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April 24, 2023, 08:00:07 PM
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It's always good to make intervals between posts, the first one is to always allow others to make reply on the same thread you posted to before making another post on same thread, this is one of the ways to avoid bursting posts, the second way to avoid it is to always put time intervals between posts, which means you can't just make about 4 to 5 Posts within 4 minutes or less, it could means that your post content is a low quality post or rather such user may be using an artificial bot system in making his post, because before you can make any post, you are expected to have read through and understand the topic content before making your own post under the thread, any off topic post of such related from th above discussed way of postings may be regarded as post bursting ir spamming.

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In addition to what has already been mentioned, as a newbie I have seen some individuals strive to meet the requisite number of posts in a campaign in a short amount of time, which results in them having bad postings and some of them getting abounded.
This is due to their lack of concentration and the fact that they are only here to make money rather than have an influence

As a newbie, I never expected such deep thoughts haha like seriously! At some level, your observations are right about the people who do that or I would like to say the account that posts in such a way is highly possible that they are the alt-accounts to make more money. Not every campaign poster is doing such things some of them really post-natural and quality content. Observations vary from person to person but I would like to recommend spending more time asking questions and answering them it will increase your learning skills. It's not hard to really post 5 to 9 posts a day in a natural way. Now from the last 2 to 3 weeks in the regular section where I post regularly topics getting more likely repeated and reviews are making shit topics, Maximum of the topics posted by the new ones are always nonsense.

It's always good to make intervals between posts

I do agree with it but it's not always necessary as some days you start posting in flow which I think should not be considered as burst posting. This a fact that the in best posted posts you can easily identify the  count making approach of the posters because he will try to put extra useless words to make it leanghty or starts try to trick somehow to avoid the palgrism and spaming.

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I think this question is appropriate in this section. I just wanted to know how many posts you can do everyday and no other intentions.

Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. Though for sure there will be people here saying depending on a topic or "you don't care about the topic as long as you can post" thingy.
As far as I understand, burst post basically means posting quickly. A lot of forums are spammed especially by excessive posting. Since you post 15 - 30 minutes between 8 hours and 12 hours every day, you definitely post burst. You should keep a post gap of at least one hour per day and 12 to 13 posts in 12 hours per day will be enough for you. and if you post with this in mind, your posts will not be spam or brust posts.

Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?
I keep the post gaffe to a minimum of one hour on the statistics I post daily. and I post my daily post 8-10 so I think my burst post and spamming will not happen. I believe postings following these rules will not be considered spamming or burst posts.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?
It is very important to follow one rule for each thing. It's best to maintain a routine of posting to the forum every day on that regret.  Especially if you keep post gap while posting daily then it won't count as spamming for you. So I think it would be best to post a minimum of 1 hour per post every day.



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April 27, 2023, 09:18:08 PM
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Post bursting differs in some situation, if you are following a discussion on a thread, your posting interval may not be up to 30 minutes. What is considered is how quality the post looks. Post bursting seem like low quality posts published within few time intervals from the previous posts, in other word its spamming the forum for personal gains, not necessarily signature campaign. Members can post as many as they could in a day, and I've observed some quality posters who post multiple amount of posts in a day that's no crime in my view.

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As far as I understand, burst post basically means posting quickly. A lot of forums are spammed especially by excessive posting. Since you post 15 - 30 minutes between 8 hours and 12 hours every day, you definitely post burst. You should keep a post gap of at least one hour per day and 12 to 13 posts in 12 hours per day will be enough for you. and if you post with this in mind, your posts will not be spam or brust posts.
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If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable. As this way we can try to indicate whom to check. But when we start talking about which time gaps to make between own posts it is no more discussion about post quality, it is a discussion about how to imitate post quality. Nonsense! If I have something to say I will never look at clock to count if enough time past, I will say it when I have something to say. And if there is nothing to be said at all it is better not to say anything and not just to imitate quality with gaps and quantity and... what else should be there?

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If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable.
Mostly if a poster makes some posts within a short time, it can be spam posts which are more likely low quality. However and fortunately, it is not always true.

Another poster can open multiple topic, click on Reply, open multiple reply box and compose his replies. When he finish one post, he can spend sometime to rethink about the idea, while composing other posts. Later he can come back and finalize his replies, click on post to release some posts within few seconds. I don't think with this poster, it should be considered as spam or burst posting.

Quality is most important to consider, not how long or short time between your posts. You can wait 2 hours between your 2 posts but they are spam because they are low quality.

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If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable.
Mostly if a poster makes some posts within a short time, it can be spam posts which are more likely low quality. However and fortunately, it is not always true.
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Right, and that's why my second sentence was about whom to check and not whom to blame. If someone posts usually too quickly it can be a reason to check his posts. If posts are okay it is not a problem by itself. It is just a possible marker of a probability of a problem. But it should definitely not be a recomendation how to comminicate on the forum; while in the boundaries of the rules the one can post the way he wishes.

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If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable.
Mostly if a poster makes some posts within a short time, it can be spam posts which are more likely low quality. However and fortunately, it is not always true.

Another poster can open multiple topic, click on Reply, open multiple reply box and compose his replies. When he finish one post, he can spend sometime to rethink about the idea, while composing other posts. Later he can come back and finalize his replies, click on post to release some posts within few seconds. I don't think with this poster, it should be considered as spam or burst posting.

Quality is most important to consider, not how long or short time between your posts. You can wait 2 hours between your 2 posts but they are spam because they are low quality.

You're all right about this, no matter how fast a person can type on a key board, at least it is expected of such person to first read through a post and understand it before giving a reply or comment on that thread, which on an average takes nothing less than 3 minutes to do so but when you discover a user making about two to three posts within this three minutes then it calls for a suspicious activity ongoing, you need time to also go through threads before seeing your desired topic to post under, we can also use the content of the post one made in deciding a spammer or not.

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but when you discover a user making about two to three posts within this three minutes then it calls for a suspicious activity ongoing, you need time to also go through threads before seeing your desired topic to post under, we can also use the content of the post one made in deciding a spammer or not.
What do you think if users take advantage of draft to save 5-10 posts with high quality before they post every minute. Is this a suspicious activity? There are methods to do it if you want but I think the average user will definitely think that you've used a bot or something to do it which they think is against the rules.

I agree that this kind of thing is not wanted by the managers who hire you because they expect you to spread the word well, but forum don't prohibit you from posting every minute if you really have high quality posts. So I think in certain cases, not all posts made within 2 minutes per post are spam or burst posts in my opinion.

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but when you discover a user making about two to three posts within this three minutes then it calls for a suspicious activity ongoing, you need time to also go through threads before seeing your desired topic to post under, we can also use the content of the post one made in deciding a spammer or not.
What do you think if users take advantage of draft to save 5-10 posts with high quality before they post every minute. Is this a suspicious activity? There are methods to do it if you want but I think the average user will definitely think that you've used a bot or something to do it which they think is against the rules.

I agree that this kind of thing is not wanted by the managers who hire you because they expect you to spread the word well, but forum don't prohibit you from posting every minute if you really have high quality posts. So I think in certain cases, not all posts made within 2 minutes per post are spam or burst posts in my opinion.
If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can also be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.
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If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can also be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.

If any manager said I have to escape posting in any section or not posting as many posts as I have something to say I'd be very angry. But no, no one does so. When they mention some sections that means they will not count posts in those sections for payment, and that's all. I can post in there as much as I want. When they say no more than 4 or 5 posts a day it means the same: if I do more posts they just count not more than the mentioned number a day. It is usually made not to get all posts in a single day from some campaign participant.

I don't remember I ever met any manager that had any restrictions on campaign participants posting. They just don't count some posts and it's okay.

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If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.
There are no restrictions to the number of posts any member can submit in a day whether the member is in a campaign or not. The campaign manager will not restrict you from posting on any board but the campaign guidelines stipulate the boards that they want participants to post in and the number that will be accepted or counted per day. But you are free to post on any board but you must ensure that you complete your post in the stipulated boards to get your reward.

Campaign managers make these rules because the product or service participants are expected to promote have targeted clients and most of them can be found in large numbers on some specific boards. Also, some sections of the forum don't display signatures, so posting there is needless. Limiting the number of posts per day is to ensure that campaign participants are active on most days of the week. If don't make such rules some participants might decide to complete their weekly quota in one or two days.

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If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can also be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.
Of course you need to follow the instructions of every manager who recruits you as a participant in the campaign they manage, but they can't prevent you from posting more than the number of posts that are paid for. There's nothing restricting you from posting if you are a high quality poster, so posting bursts will probably be handled on case by case basis by the manager, I mean if you are a high quality poster.

Managers definitely expect you to share quality posts, you also need to pay attention to good visibility, especially between one post and the next, however, you are free to post from any distance as long as it is of high quality.

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May 01, 2023, 06:26:00 PM
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I do not believe in such a hard coded rules of how many minutes you have to wait between successive posts. Let's assume the rule is that you must wait for 10 mins and after making a post, within 4mins, you have seen another post you have to react to, then you will need to wait for 6 more minutes before you make the post. I do not subscribe to this and I also think this is not the way of theymos.

You can make as much post you want to make within any space of time in as much as you are not spamming. If there be anything like post bursting, it should be included i
the forum codes, such as if you want to beat the wait time, a messge will appear, showing you that you cannot post until x mins

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May 01, 2023, 06:38:49 PM
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I do not believe in such a hard coded rules of how many minutes you have to wait between successive posts. Let's assume the rule is that you must wait for 10 mins and after making a post, within 4mins, you have seen another post you have to react to, then you will need to wait for 6 more minutes before you make the post. I do not subscribe to this and I also think this is not the way of theymos.

You can make as much post you want to make within any space of time in as much as you are not spamming. If there be anything like post bursting, it should be included i
the forum codes, such as if you want to beat the wait time, a messge will appear, showing you that you cannot post until x mins
I think the OP should be able to jump to conclusions after creating this thread and lock it instead of leaving it open all the time.

Burst posts isn't something against the forum rules, it's just not expected when you're in any kind of campaign. Campaign managers don't like that, and of course they expect participants to have some downtime to create meaningful posts instead of completing their weekly quota in a day or two. Spam tends to have to be reported, it's not expected because it's against the rules, while quality posts have to be maintained even if the duration between one post and another doesn't have more than 5 minutes gap.

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May 02, 2023, 06:12:41 AM
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?

Perhaps my example is not the best. Roll Eyes

But giving the example of last week.
Last week I made 102 posts, which is an average of 14~15 posts per day. But there are days when I make less than 10 posts and I have days when I make more than 20 posts.

Honestly, I don't care much if I post a lot in a day or a little, although I like to keep track of the numbers, I just focus on posting on topics that I think I have something to say.

It's true that most of my posts are in the local tab, but my tab mates don't complain and like my participation (at least that's what they say Tongue ), so I think I make posts with some level of quality, within what it is acceptable.

I think there is no problem if you can accumulate a lot of posts in one day, as long as it doesn't become spammy in the topic you enter and you follow the policies of the forum, it's probably okay.

     As long as the important thing is that the posts you make make sense, it's fine in my opinion. As long as the interval between your posts is only 5 mins, I hope no one does that, maybe at least 10-15mins interval before you post again will be fine anyway.



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May 02, 2023, 08:56:24 AM
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     As long as the important thing is that the posts you make make sense, it's fine in my opinion. As long as the interval between your posts is only 5 mins, I hope no one does that, maybe at least 10-15mins interval before you post again will be fine anyway.

I can easily post 2 or 3 times in just 5 minutes. It all depends on what topics I'm participating in.
The relevant thing here is the posts we make and not the response time between one or two posts.

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