Spammers and Burst Posters only

[speedy963]

There is so much to quote so I'll just reply generally. First of, by staying in this forum doesn't mean I refer this as regular job coz I am not paid staying here to be honest, and there's no campaigns yet that are accepting me, maybe due to I didn't have enough merits or so but regardless, currently I didn't have a job due to personal reasons, the same reason why I stayed home and watch over the house, and since I don't have anything to do whole day, much better if I spend it here on this forum right? instead of watching TV series whole day I'd rather make it more productive.

In regards to all of those replies, I've read all of your replies and most of you didn't matter how long the post gap is as long as the reply is relevant to topic. In short, most of you guys are actively contributing in this community and more importantly you guys have different perspective when it comes to post. See? This is the reason why I asked this in the first place, coz way back then each campaign managers have different standards when it come to post activities within a day, but now although not a lot has changed, each member here on this forum have different opinions in regards of what is considered burst posting. Therefore I conclude that it had became an unwritten rule here, correct me if I'm wrong.

I have remembered back then whenever there's a topic that I wanted to post/reply I'll write a draft ready to be posted and just wait for the time to hit 10 mins or so just because I don't want to consecutively post replies. Sometimes I would even open multiple tabs and reply at the same time but will just wait after few minutes before clicking post. Is what I did back then forbidden? To be honest there isn't anyone I knew where I could ask that question, and it's bugging me for years coz maybe I'd get banned or something.

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[Plaguedeath]

each member here on this forum have different opinions in regards of what is considered burst posting. Therefore I conclude that it had became an unwritten rule here, correct me if I'm wrong.

It's not an unwritten rule, but just a subjective matter.
An unwritten rule is like how someone want to send his sMerit, you can give 50 merits in one post by satoshi and no one will care about it. But if you give 50 merits in one post by brand new newbie, someone will create a new thread in Reputation.

I have remembered back then whenever there's a topic that I wanted to post/reply I'll write a draft ready to be posted and just wait for the time to hit 10 mins or so just because I don't want to consecutively post replies. Sometimes I would even open multiple tabs and reply at the same time but will just wait after few minutes before clicking post. Is what I did back then forbidden?

It's fine, there's no rule you're broke here. I will say that's a trick how you really want to give a gap time from one to another, there's no trace you leave if you use this.

While some regular members may think a 20 minute gap between posts is fine, campaign managers are more concerned in the visibility of the signature on different hours throughout the day.

If the user only post in the same thread, it's make sense the posts should have a gap time, but if the poster is create post in different thread/section, I don't see any difference why it's need a gap time.

[Fiatless]

Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?

I am not sure if there are any restrictions on the number of posts because I have never had issues where I am told that I have exceeded the maximum number of posts per day or week. I have done up to seven to each posts in a day when I am on holiday and have some extra time. But currently, I spend close to two to three hours on the forum and my post count a day is between 4-6.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?

I think the forum places more emphasis on quality and not necessarily the time gap. Although fewer time gaps are one of the main features of spammers and low-quality posters it cannot be used as a scale to judge or assess the quality of posts. My time gain depends on how knowledgeable I am about a topic. If I have a vast knowledge about some topics, my reply might take less time compared to the one that I have to make research for more understanding.

[speedy963]

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It's not an unwritten rule, but just a subjective matter.
An unwritten rule is like how someone want to send his sMerit, you can give 50 merits in one post by satoshi and no one will care about it. But if you give 50 merits in one post by brand new newbie, someone will create a new thread in Reputation.

I can already see someone doing that in Reputation section hahahaha.

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It's fine, there's no rule you're broke here. I will say that's a trick how you really want to give a gap time from one to another, there's no trace you leave if you use this.

Replying in the same thread or not I still leave gaps. IDK about other but that's just how I post. I have also seen back then someone being scolded for replying all the posts individually when you can just quote them instead.

While some regular members may think a 20 minute gap between posts is fine, campaign managers are more concerned in the visibility of the signature on different hours throughout the day.

If the user only post in the same thread, it's make sense the posts should have a gap time, but if the poster is create post in different thread/section, I don't see any difference why it's need a gap time.

There're still people like me who leaves gaps in their posting time even if it's on different thread not just to be considered a spam maybe it's  just some sort of hobby or maybe they just wanted their account latest/past posts to be clean just like in my case. 

[joker_josue]

There're still people like me who leaves gaps in their posting time even if it's on different thread not just to be considered a spam maybe it's  just some sort of hobby or maybe they just wanted their account latest/past posts to be clean just like in my case. 

If the person posts in a natural way, in response to some subject, sharing information or expressing his personal opinion about something, it is really irrelevant to post too fast in several topics.

Speaking of myself, I can keep up with several subjects at the same time, so it's not difficult for me to comment on two different topics in a short period of time.

It all depends on whether the other users who are participating with you in the topic are active and respond quickly to your post.

[ene1980]

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I have remembered back then whenever there's a topic that I wanted to post/reply I'll write a draft ready to be posted and just wait for the time to hit 10 mins or so just because I don't want to consecutively post replies. Sometimes I would even open multiple tabs and reply at the same time but will just wait after few minutes before clicking post. Is what I did back then forbidden? To be honest there isn't anyone I knew where I could ask that question, and it's bugging me for years coz maybe I'd get banned or something.

Mods wont ban you for posting all the contents within a minute. But if you are wearing a signature, the purpose is to advertise them diligently and the good campaign managers make sure that the posts are spread appropriately so that the purpose of advertisement is fulfilled.

[libert19]

2/3 posts each day, depending on bounty I'm enrolled in plus quotes/mentions I get during day, I try to reply each one unless overwhelmed by responses.

Additional question: For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?

None, as long as response is on topic who cares?

[karmamiu]

There're still people like me who leaves gaps in their posting time even if it's on different thread not just to be considered a spam maybe it's  just some sort of hobby or maybe they just wanted their account latest/past posts to be clean just like in my case.  

If the person posts in a natural way, in response to some subject, sharing information or expressing his personal opinion about something, it is really irrelevant to post too fast in several topics.

Speaking of myself, I can keep up with several subjects at the same time, so it's not difficult for me to comment on two different topics in a short period of time.

It all depends on whether the other users who are participating with you in the topic are active and respond quickly to your post.

That is exactly right. IMO, if you are responding and contributing into the discussion, that is not considered as a spam, not unless you jump from topic-to-topic writing whatever comes into your mind without a care just to compose/construct sentences to reach the minimum words of 150 is most probably considered a burst posting. Just like you do too, I am also someone who can keep up with several subjects at the same time, maybe it is called multi-tasking or so, but regardless of that, it is something that needs constant practice and requires you to voluntarily control your focus so that you won't mixed up all your replies.

[Saisher]

It goes with the habit and the required post you need to do to hit the mark I average 5 posts daily but I make sure that these two are there on all my posts, 30 to 1-hour gap on my first three posts and then I will rest for 6 to 7 hours to wait for another topic that I can participate.
The most important thing is the posts, they should be within topics and not redundant, you will be judged on your posts first if it has substance and not just rewritten coming from other posts.

[joker_josue]

That is exactly right. IMO, if you are responding and contributing into the discussion, that is not considered as a spam, not unless you jump from topic-to-topic writing whatever comes into your mind without a care just to compose/construct sentences to reach the minimum words of 150 is most probably considered a burst posting. Just like you do too, I am also someone who can keep up with several subjects at the same time, maybe it is called multi-tasking or so, but regardless of that, it is something that needs constant practice and requires you to voluntarily control your focus so that you won't mixed up all your replies.

That's right. That's why if a topic is too many replies to the OP or too many replies after my post, we have to spend more time to understand the point of the conversation. That way I'll be able to see if I have something to add or not to the subject.

Of course, sometimes, we can repeat one or another information that has already been said, but if we are original and genuine, we will certainly present that same information from another point of view that can help the debate.

[Mpamaegbu]

I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood.

That's apt. One's mood matters a great deal when it comes to interactions. Posting on this forum is interaction (that's the way I see it). Any post that isn't interactive will obviously paint a picture of spam. Those who post in isolation – posting without addressing the topic of discussion– know what I'm saying here.

what is your average number of posts?

My average will be around six per day. This is putting into consideration that there are days are get fired up and make over 10 posts in a day while on certain days I don't even make up to five posts. Also, sometimes I get distracted from the forum and end up not making a single post.

For you what is the acceptable time gap during/while posting in this forum?

That would depend on how knowledgeable and resourceful the community thinks your posts are. I've see reputable members post in less than 5 minutes time gap and no one called them out on that. I don't know if I've fallen into such short time duration but I do like to space my posts as best as I can.

Summarily, I think what matters most is what is posted as against its time space.

[_BlackStar]

I don't think time gap between one post and another post is not reason not to say someone spammer, to me that's not true. Spam is still spam even if they only make one post in one day, and it all depends on the quality and how constructive the post is. Even if you post every 5 minutes, making 50 posts in one day or more, but as long as you pay attention to quality and be constructive on the topic then you are not spammer. Burst and spam posts are also subjective things, it will differ from one user to another.

I think I know why you made this question but if I may suggest to you, then don't make post explode in one day just if it's because you want to get paid in the last day or two. This is very likely to be classified as burts post or even spam as I'm sure you will have hard time making it as constructive as possible.

what is your average number of posts?

So far I haven't thought much about how many average posts I've made per day, but you can look at this as good data on the average posts in ninjastic:

https://ninjastic.space/user/_BlackStar - mine
https://ninjastic.space/user/write your username

[Findingnemo]

It is possible to make a post under 5 minutes which may not violate any forum rules so its subjective to the intention of the post not the numbers, usually campaigns consider there should be atleast 30 mins gap between their post or else it will be considered as burst posting then people wrote x number of posts in a notepad or somewhere then keep posting it in between the right intervals that is why most of the signature campaigns have max cap post towards post quota for weekly payments but you can make as much as you want.

[ShowOff]

It is possible to make a post under 5 minutes which may not violate any forum rules so its subjective to the intention of the post not the numbers, usually campaigns consider there should be atleast 30 mins gap between their post or else it will be considered as burst posting then people wrote x number of posts in a notepad or somewhere then keep posting it in between the right intervals that is why most of the signature campaigns have max cap post towards post quota for weekly payments but you can make as much as you want.

Here is limits on posting. Anyone who has an if (activity >= 100) then they can post every 4 seconds.

Limits on posting

Code:

waittime = 360;
if(activity >= 15)
        waittime = (int)(90 - activity);
if(activity >= 60)
        waittime=(int)(34.7586 - (0.0793103 * activity));
if(activity >= 100)
        waittime = max((int)(14-(activity/50)), 4);

About spam, low quality posts, burst posts, or off-topic it is something else. This means nothing is going to stop you from posting every 4 seconds assuming you have >=100 activity points unless you are spammer. But the time span between one post and another also needs to be considered because it can provide space for you to write something constructive and of high quality. If you are an AI, you may be able to have short timeframe due to the quality of your posts.

[virasog]

Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. Though for sure there will be people here saying depending on a topic or "you don't care about the topic as long as you can post" thingy.

Why do you consider everyone a spammer who posts a certain large number of posts each day ? There can be people who may post 10 or 12 (maybe more) posts per day and yet all of those posts are constructive ones. There can be a person who post only 3 or 4 posts a day with 1 hour gap and yet his posts may be useless and spam.

In order to identify the spammers, Look for the Quality of posts first over the quantity of posts. Yeah, I agree that burst posting will affect the quality of posting as you won't be spending much time writing / reviewing your posts.

(Edit. If someone happens to give merits to this thread, I'll be using it to help our local section Pilipinas to generate merit cycle. As it happens that our local section is active but the merit cycle isn't, besides that, we also don't have merit source due to various complications. Thanks in advance)

I don't think it is the right way and it indirectly suggests that you are asking for merits but telling where you may spend them. If people like your post, they will merit it and you can spend them wherever you like.

[karmamiu]

That is exactly right. IMO, if you are responding and contributing into the discussion, that is not considered as a spam, not unless you jump from topic-to-topic writing whatever comes into your mind without a care just to compose/construct sentences to reach the minimum words of 150 is most probably considered a burst posting. Just like you do too, I am also someone who can keep up with several subjects at the same time, maybe it is called multi-tasking or so, but regardless of that, it is something that needs constant practice and requires you to voluntarily control your focus so that you won't mixed up all your replies.

That's right. That's why if a topic is too many replies to the OP or too many replies after my post, we have to spend more time to understand the point of the conversation. That way I'll be able to see if I have something to add or not to the subject.

Of course, sometimes, we can repeat one or another information that has already been said, but if we are original and genuine, we will certainly present that same information from another point of view that can help the debate.

To be honest, it is really hard to construct short and precise message or words without repeating some information presented while adding the fact that there are minimum numbers of character and words that is required for you to become a valid poster that isn't only good at adding flowery words. As I've said that it requires constant practice to voluntarily control your focus since those things cannot be achieved by being a nonchalant poster alone. We should also keep in mind that what we replied is something not only straight to the point but also relevant to the topic and also for others to engage with it or even a new knowledge you can add to it. Although this is irrelevant, this is mostly why in my free time I usually read books even fictional novels to expand my vocabulary and to increase knowledge about constructing sentences, coz whether I like it or not and even if English is our international language, I am not born from a native English-speaking country, so if I wanted to converse with anyone using general language which is English, I still needed to become more comprehensive. Replying isn't all about speaking English alone but also understanding the context of what you really are replying to, so far that's what I've learned here from staying on this platform.

[Poker Player]

For me, burst posting does not exist as an absolute concept but in relation to quality. If someone writes posts at intervals of 5 to 10 minutes on average and they are of quality, he is not a burst poster.

Besides no one usually writes posts with such short time intervals continuously. The normal thing is to enter the forum, write 2 or 3 posts, and then come back in after a while and write more. So between some posts there are gaps of between 10 and 20 minutes, but maybe between the first and the second session there is a gap of a couple of hours.

For forum purposes I would say not to look so much at the interval between posts as at the quality of the posts, and for signature campaigns purposes I would introduce something else. For example someone who is 10 posts short of the weekly quota and writes them on the last day with short intervals is probably burst posting, and some campaigns have explicit rules against it. On the other hand, someone writes with 10 minute intervals but writes 7 days a week normally in different time slots and with quality? He won't be a burst poster.

[LoyceV]

Anyone who has an if (activity >= 100) then they can post every 4 seconds.

That's incorrect. With Activity = 100, you have to wait 12 seconds between posts. The minimum of 4 seconds is only reached when Activity = 500. The 12 seconds is totally fine for normal posting, but the 4 seconds is often annoying when reporting spam.

[speedy963]

Lately I have noticed lots of complaints regarding burst posting and spammers, IDK what do you guys think about a burst poster or a spammer, but I have an average of 8-12 hours a day staying in the forum and with a 15-30 minutes post gap I should say I can make at least 15-20 posts a day depending on my mood. Though for sure there will be people here saying depending on a topic or "you don't care about the topic as long as you can post" thingy.

Why do you consider everyone a spammer who posts a certain large number of posts each day ? There can be people who may post 10 or 12 (maybe more) posts per day and yet all of those posts are constructive ones. There can be a person who post only 3 or 4 posts a day with 1 hour gap and yet his posts may be useless and spam.

In order to identify the spammers, Look for the Quality of posts first over the quantity of posts. Yeah, I agree that burst posting will affect the quality of posting as you won't be spending much time writing / reviewing your posts.

That makes sense since if I were to choose between posters I'd rather choose good quality posts which are relevant to the topic, and there is also a chance that a specific member is just actively participating on the discussion and he is also contributing on that topic. It isn't fair if that person would be labeled as a burst poster right? He/She should also know what he is doing in the forum and of course would also know the rules.

(Edit. If someone happens to give merits to this thread, I'll be using it to help our local section Pilipinas to generate merit cycle. As it happens that our local section is active but the merit cycle isn't, besides that, we also don't have merit source due to various complications. Thanks in advance)

I don't think it is the right way and it indirectly suggests that you are asking for merits but telling where you may spend them. If people like your post, they will merit it and you can spend them wherever you like.

I don't mind if somebody reading this would misinterpret it and it is also not right to say that I am not indirectly asking for merits, coz that's what already there is on the first post and I am also aware that begging for merits is subjective to red tags. This is just an "if ever", coz it is still their choice whether they'll give me or not, or whether I deserve that kind of merit. It's not like I just made this topic on purpose of asking merits without participating on the discussion. I am just honestly and genuinely curious to your perspective here on this forum as to what you guys consider as a burst poster. I am also very aware that the replies here on the discussion could even have merits than the thread. I only did it as some kind of exclamation. Both of us too are aware that asking for donations is the same as begging. I hope this doesn't offend anyone  .

[Coyster]

I don't mind if somebody reading this would misinterpret it and it is also not right to say that I am not indirectly asking for merits, coz that's what already there is on the first post and I am also aware that begging for merits is subjective to red tags. This is just an "if ever", coz it is still their choice whether they'll give me or not, or whether I deserve that kind of merit. It's not like I just made this topic on purpose of asking merits without participating on the discussion.

The unofficial rules states 'no begging', but if the trust system is used correctly, it doesn't mean negative feedbacks ought to be given when someone begs for merits (or other things), the user and their post should be reported to the moderator and they'll handle it, but then if the person begs excessively, then a neutral tag is what should be given.

Having said that, it is somewhat unnecessary to talk about what you'd do with the Smerits generated from the possible merits received on your post, many users here consider it begging, and even if they wanted to merit the post initially, they could then change their mind. If merits is lacking in your local section, then you should make a thread and apply to be a merit source in your local board, or you request reputable users in your local section to apply to be a merit source.