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Question: How much post you can do per day?
15 minutes - 0 (0%)
30 minutes - 1 (7.1%)
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5 posts per day - 5 (35.7%)
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April 28, 2023, 07:17:11 AM
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As far as I understand, burst post basically means posting quickly. A lot of forums are spammed especially by excessive posting. Since you post 15 - 30 minutes between 8 hours and 12 hours every day, you definitely post burst. You should keep a post gap of at least one hour per day and 12 to 13 posts in 12 hours per day will be enough for you. and if you post with this in mind, your posts will not be spam or brust posts.
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If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable. As this way we can try to indicate whom to check. But when we start talking about which time gaps to make between own posts it is no more discussion about post quality, it is a discussion about how to imitate post quality. Nonsense! If I have something to say I will never look at clock to count if enough time past, I will say it when I have something to say. And if there is nothing to be said at all it is better not to say anything and not just to imitate quality with gaps and quantity and... what else should be there?

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April 28, 2023, 07:29:33 AM
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If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable.
Mostly if a poster makes some posts within a short time, it can be spam posts which are more likely low quality. However and fortunately, it is not always true.

Another poster can open multiple topic, click on Reply, open multiple reply box and compose his replies. When he finish one post, he can spend sometime to rethink about the idea, while composing other posts. Later he can come back and finalize his replies, click on post to release some posts within few seconds. I don't think with this poster, it should be considered as spam or burst posting.

Quality is most important to consider, not how long or short time between your posts. You can wait 2 hours between your 2 posts but they are spam because they are low quality.

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April 28, 2023, 08:06:46 AM
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If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable.
Mostly if a poster makes some posts within a short time, it can be spam posts which are more likely low quality. However and fortunately, it is not always true.
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Right, and that's why my second sentence was about whom to check and not whom to blame. If someone posts usually too quickly it can be a reason to check his posts. If posts are okay it is not a problem by itself. It is just a possible marker of a probability of a problem. But it should definitely not be a recomendation how to comminicate on the forum; while in the boundaries of the rules the one can post the way he wishes.

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April 28, 2023, 09:09:08 AM
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If we talk about that if someone posts too quickly than he might be spamming the forum with low quality posts, it looks reasonable.
Mostly if a poster makes some posts within a short time, it can be spam posts which are more likely low quality. However and fortunately, it is not always true.

Another poster can open multiple topic, click on Reply, open multiple reply box and compose his replies. When he finish one post, he can spend sometime to rethink about the idea, while composing other posts. Later he can come back and finalize his replies, click on post to release some posts within few seconds. I don't think with this poster, it should be considered as spam or burst posting.

Quality is most important to consider, not how long or short time between your posts. You can wait 2 hours between your 2 posts but they are spam because they are low quality.

You're all right about this, no matter how fast a person can type on a key board, at least it is expected of such person to first read through a post and understand it before giving a reply or comment on that thread, which on an average takes nothing less than 3 minutes to do so but when you discover a user making about two to three posts within this three minutes then it calls for a suspicious activity ongoing, you need time to also go through threads before seeing your desired topic to post under, we can also use the content of the post one made in deciding a spammer or not.

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but when you discover a user making about two to three posts within this three minutes then it calls for a suspicious activity ongoing, you need time to also go through threads before seeing your desired topic to post under, we can also use the content of the post one made in deciding a spammer or not.
What do you think if users take advantage of draft to save 5-10 posts with high quality before they post every minute. Is this a suspicious activity? There are methods to do it if you want but I think the average user will definitely think that you've used a bot or something to do it which they think is against the rules.

I agree that this kind of thing is not wanted by the managers who hire you because they expect you to spread the word well, but forum don't prohibit you from posting every minute if you really have high quality posts. So I think in certain cases, not all posts made within 2 minutes per post are spam or burst posts in my opinion.

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but when you discover a user making about two to three posts within this three minutes then it calls for a suspicious activity ongoing, you need time to also go through threads before seeing your desired topic to post under, we can also use the content of the post one made in deciding a spammer or not.
What do you think if users take advantage of draft to save 5-10 posts with high quality before they post every minute. Is this a suspicious activity? There are methods to do it if you want but I think the average user will definitely think that you've used a bot or something to do it which they think is against the rules.

I agree that this kind of thing is not wanted by the managers who hire you because they expect you to spread the word well, but forum don't prohibit you from posting every minute if you really have high quality posts. So I think in certain cases, not all posts made within 2 minutes per post are spam or burst posts in my opinion.
If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can also be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.

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If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can also be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.

If any manager said I have to escape posting in any section or not posting as many posts as I have something to say I'd be very angry. But no, no one does so. When they mention some sections that means they will not count posts in those sections for payment, and that's all. I can post in there as much as I want. When they say no more than 4 or 5 posts a day it means the same: if I do more posts they just count not more than the mentioned number a day. It is usually made not to get all posts in a single day from some campaign participant.

I don't remember I ever met any manager that had any restrictions on campaign participants posting. They just don't count some posts and it's okay.

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May 01, 2023, 05:02:45 PM
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If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.
There are no restrictions to the number of posts any member can submit in a day whether the member is in a campaign or not. The campaign manager will not restrict you from posting on any board but the campaign guidelines stipulate the boards that they want participants to post in and the number that will be accepted or counted per day. But you are free to post on any board but you must ensure that you complete your post in the stipulated boards to get your reward.

Campaign managers make these rules because the product or service participants are expected to promote have targeted clients and most of them can be found in large numbers on some specific boards. Also, some sections of the forum don't display signatures, so posting there is needless. Limiting the number of posts per day is to ensure that campaign participants are active on most days of the week. If don't make such rules some participants might decide to complete their weekly quota in one or two days.

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If the user is not in a campaigns, he or she has the unlimited numbers of posts in the forum. Because at that time, he can posts whatever and whenever the user want. But whereby the user is in a campaign, then the user has to follow the manager's instruction. There are so.e specific boards that the manager would not like to participate so he would tell his participants not to post on those boards and those boards would be specify on the main thread of the campaign. And also the number of post per day can also be regulated by the manager. Some managers stated 4 a day, some 5 while some unlimited but not burst posting.
Of course you need to follow the instructions of every manager who recruits you as a participant in the campaign they manage, but they can't prevent you from posting more than the number of posts that are paid for. There's nothing restricting you from posting if you are a high quality poster, so posting bursts will probably be handled on case by case basis by the manager, I mean if you are a high quality poster.

Managers definitely expect you to share quality posts, you also need to pay attention to good visibility, especially between one post and the next, however, you are free to post from any distance as long as it is of high quality.

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May 01, 2023, 06:26:00 PM
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I do not believe in such a hard coded rules of how many minutes you have to wait between successive posts. Let's assume the rule is that you must wait for 10 mins and after making a post, within 4mins, you have seen another post you have to react to, then you will need to wait for 6 more minutes before you make the post. I do not subscribe to this and I also think this is not the way of theymos.

You can make as much post you want to make within any space of time in as much as you are not spamming. If there be anything like post bursting, it should be included i
the forum codes, such as if you want to beat the wait time, a messge will appear, showing you that you cannot post until x mins

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May 01, 2023, 06:38:49 PM
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I do not believe in such a hard coded rules of how many minutes you have to wait between successive posts. Let's assume the rule is that you must wait for 10 mins and after making a post, within 4mins, you have seen another post you have to react to, then you will need to wait for 6 more minutes before you make the post. I do not subscribe to this and I also think this is not the way of theymos.

You can make as much post you want to make within any space of time in as much as you are not spamming. If there be anything like post bursting, it should be included i
the forum codes, such as if you want to beat the wait time, a messge will appear, showing you that you cannot post until x mins
I think the OP should be able to jump to conclusions after creating this thread and lock it instead of leaving it open all the time.

Burst posts isn't something against the forum rules, it's just not expected when you're in any kind of campaign. Campaign managers don't like that, and of course they expect participants to have some downtime to create meaningful posts instead of completing their weekly quota in a day or two. Spam tends to have to be reported, it's not expected because it's against the rules, while quality posts have to be maintained even if the duration between one post and another doesn't have more than 5 minutes gap.

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May 02, 2023, 06:12:41 AM
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Considering you have followed all the rules and you are on topic, what is your average number of posts?

Perhaps my example is not the best. Roll Eyes

But giving the example of last week.
Last week I made 102 posts, which is an average of 14~15 posts per day. But there are days when I make less than 10 posts and I have days when I make more than 20 posts.

Honestly, I don't care much if I post a lot in a day or a little, although I like to keep track of the numbers, I just focus on posting on topics that I think I have something to say.

It's true that most of my posts are in the local tab, but my tab mates don't complain and like my participation (at least that's what they say Tongue ), so I think I make posts with some level of quality, within what it is acceptable.

I think there is no problem if you can accumulate a lot of posts in one day, as long as it doesn't become spammy in the topic you enter and you follow the policies of the forum, it's probably okay.

     As long as the important thing is that the posts you make make sense, it's fine in my opinion. As long as the interval between your posts is only 5 mins, I hope no one does that, maybe at least 10-15mins interval before you post again will be fine anyway.

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     As long as the important thing is that the posts you make make sense, it's fine in my opinion. As long as the interval between your posts is only 5 mins, I hope no one does that, maybe at least 10-15mins interval before you post again will be fine anyway.

I can easily post 2 or 3 times in just 5 minutes. It all depends on what topics I'm participating in.
The relevant thing here is the posts we make and not the response time between one or two posts.

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