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April 06, 2023, 06:57:25 AM
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As he ages, the window for him is closing. I never saw him encounter any financial problem because he has been diligient and frugal. This meet-up has completely changed my mind. Even people like him are struggling financially and we'd better prepare a comfortable life for the old version of ourselves. This uncle is still doing okay although with some struggles but I am sure there are millions who are broke and wish they could have made and saved more money when they were young. Always plan for the future. What do you think ?

This is a common mistakes that human beings make, they enjoy their youthful age without planning for their future, you can see them going to all expensive places and traveling around the world wasting all the money they're making meanwhile they have no savings for the future or when they try investing for the future they go for scams because they're now under pressure.

It doesn't matter how much you're making today or how comfortable you're, what matters is will you be able to keep that lifestyle when you're old and can't do manual labours anymore. We should always plan for our future or we'll belike your uncle or millions of others that are now broke and unhappy.
lifestyle becomes our benchmark to see our old age. not a few people are devastated because they cannot lower their lifestyle when they reach retirement age, of course, with less income we also have to be able to adjust. or while we are young we must be able to work hard to earn lots of money and establish passive income, so that our old age can be guaranteed with passive income assets. that way we can enjoy our old age well, without worrying about running out of money

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April 06, 2023, 07:22:42 AM
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By saving money like banknotes, you will eventually be left with nothing; inflation is ruthless. Any money should work and not be a dead weight.
They say that for up to thirty years, a person works for a name, and after thirty, your name should work for you.
Worrying about the future begins with our childhood, education, and qualifications, and investing some of the money earned in real estate, gold, and now also in Bitcoin, which can be good insurance for the future. While you are young, spare no effort or time to build your reputation. Starting your own business and working for yourself, and not someone else's uncle, should be the goal of young people. This is the only way to become independent of employers and look boldly into your elderly future.

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April 06, 2023, 07:25:26 AM
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Always plan for the future. What do you think ?
In my society, most people used to say, who knows the future like who knows when will death come, and why struggle to store piles of cash when you will not be there to get the benefit of that? That's the main reason for not preparing for life when they get old. As you mentioned, my uncle is in his fifties and my father is too, from the last 2 to 3 years I also trying to find work and do whatever job i can do in my part-time as I am a student too. As offspring, we should worry about our parents like even if we are able to meet our education expenses on our own then this will also support our parents. Because I have faced that.

On BTT I make money and meet my educational expenses on my own sometime I gave money to my parent too for home buying. The point is as a child we should depend on our parents and have to make efforts to face our expenses on our own. As your mentioned scenario about a dad sending his daughter to foreign studies always get good results when that daughter will succeed in the fields of life and will support their parents. That's the only hope, which keeps them supported and alive.

   Why should we wait for old age if we can prepare for the future there when we can do it now. It is not bad to prepare for
the future and it is good.

   And it's also good if this bitcointalk helps you and your parents, and I think that this platform has really helped a lot of people in different parts of the world during the 12 years of its emergence in this industry in honestly.

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April 06, 2023, 08:38:53 AM
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It's not everything that's well planned will end up working out exactly how you dreamt it, when we make something happen we always think it's by our capability and will, but we have forgotten that someone up there is the one that holds the key to every door, no one can question HIM if he says that your time is up, we all want the good times of life but heaven has it's the way with us, so OP does not blame anyone that's in a very bad situation, it doesn't mean they played with their time, it doesn't mean that they are lazy, it doesn't mean that they never had a good plan for their future.

No matter how big your plan is, if heaven says no, no one can say yes, this is why we need to be prayerful whenever we have a goal we are pursuing, pray that things go our way, if it things end up going your way, never feel it's your power that makes it happen, be thankful.

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As he ages, the window for him is closing. I never saw him encounter any financial problem because he has been diligient and frugal. This meet-up has completely changed my mind. Even people like him are struggling financially and we'd better prepare a comfortable life for the old version of ourselves. This uncle is still doing okay although with some struggles but I am sure there are millions who are broke and wish they could have made and saved more money when they were young. Always plan for the future. What do you think ?

This is a common mistakes that human beings make, they enjoy their youthful age without planning for their future, you can see them going to all expensive places and traveling around the world wasting all the money they're making meanwhile they have no savings for the future or when they try investing for the future they go for scams because they're now under pressure.

It doesn't matter how much you're making today or how comfortable you're, what matters is will you be able to keep that lifestyle when you're old and can't do manual labours anymore. We should always plan for our future or we'll belike your uncle or millions of others that are now broke and unhappy.

I disagree with the "It doesn't matter how much you're making today or how comfortable you're." Of course it matters. Enjoying and being comfortable in the present and preparing for the future are not mutually exclusive. Enjoying today does not necessarily mean that you'll disregard your future. What I learned in order to balance life is to set realistic goals that align with my long-term goals. I learned what to prioritize so I wont spend my effort to unnecessary things and I make sure to allocate funds for things that bring me joy such as my hobbies or travel. It is important to enjoy the process of working towards your goals and celebrate small milestones and accomplishments along the way.

But not all youth can do  this, so they learned to compromise. That's when your thought of "what matters is will you be able to keep that lifestyle when you're old and can't do manual labours anymore" enters. They are forced to live a life not enjoying their present because they have to prepare for a good future and make sure that their next generation wont suffer the same, that they'll be able to enjoy.

Don't blame the youth for enjoying life, they learn.

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April 06, 2023, 09:40:51 AM
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I'm not really sure who's the wrong in this situation and who should I blame, but few things in order to make you survive and doesn't suffer financial problem are:

1. Make sure you don't save your money, but invest on few commodities e.g. Bitcoin, gold, stock, real estate etc.
2. Have a small business in your home, it's better if you have an autopilot business where you don't need to work anymore.
3. Teach your children how to use money in a correctly way, don't overspend and use it for luxury lifestyle.

When you're still 25-40 years old, it might be the peak of your career, don't think you can work until you're death because an old people can't compete with fresh graduate young people.

I think we had a discussion similar to what you just said in a thread yesterday, I can't remember the thread.
You have to try and invest instead of just saving. Money saved would be used for something else and it would be gone. While you're still working have an investment. It may not look like much because you earn small and therefore you'll invest small but it will give you confidence to be able to make bigger investment as you grow.
I know people who are retired today and are doing okay, despite how depressing the economy is, they're doing okay while their colleague are now poor.
Start investing from a young age so that by the time you begin to get old and you begin to make money it won't be a very difficult thing for you to do.

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Last week, I met one of my uncles-in-law who has been a sailor for many years. In the past decade, he has been out of town and travelling all over the world to make a living. He has two children to raise and being a father who is always absent from their growing-up, he somehow does not know how to get along with his kids once he is back home once a year. In this transition period, usually like one month or two, he will find him some odd jobs  to make money to support his family. Unfortunately in this economic downturn, it is very difficult to find a job so he is quite upset now. Staying at home means no income and this makes my aunt very anxious. This uncle is in mid fifties and he is one of the most diligient people I've ever known. Ever since he was young, he would always keep busy doing all kinds of jobs to make money. I have to say that he made some savings for some years but it was most used up by sending his daughter to study overseas. Under today's economic condition, he has to wait more time to be assigned onboard and it is said his salary will be slashed big next time he has an offer. Well, to make a living, he has to accept that. He used to be a happy-go-lucky guy and always have a smile every day, last week I saw him, he was more like silent and upset.

As he ages, the window for him is closing. I never saw him encounter any financial problem because he has been diligient and frugal. This meet-up has completely changed my mind. Even people like him are struggling financially and we'd better prepare a comfortable life for the old version of ourselves. This uncle is still doing okay although with some struggles but I am sure there are millions who are broke and wish they could have made and saved more money when they were young. Always plan for the future. What do you think ?

A fairly well known issue. Very often, when we set ourselves the goal of providing a high-quality financial environment, we go headlong into work. To the detriment of my life, family life, communication with parents, family, children, as well as health ... I also had such a period, but I realized in time that something needed to be changed, because. this process can become irreversible Smiley
Giving advice in this situation is probably not very effective, because. everyone's situations are different. But... You can't devote your whole life only to earning money, otherwise you simply won't be able to enjoy the results of your work. As the saying goes, "I looked back at the end - and there was nothing behind - no family, no children, no friends, no health ... Just a lot of money that can no longer be used." In a word, everything needs a balance, and the search for more effective solutions for making money than working 24x7 but not living a full life!

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April 06, 2023, 09:44:14 AM
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Preparing for old age from the start is important and decisive, it's time for us to think about living well in old age, many people become difficult and poor when they are old, this is because when they are young they don't want to invest, they are just busy making money and then it runs out In fact, starting an investment is very easy because you can start with a small value, but most people are easily tempted so they don't invest.
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April 06, 2023, 09:54:27 AM
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This is the problem to most people who are in their peak of success, they forgot that one day it will all be gone for good since there is no permanent in this world. You can't expect to be working your whole life on the same company because somehow you will be replaced with a young ones or fresh graduates.

If you are one of them or at their peak of success at the moment, proceed to make a backup plans in case you won't be working with one of the company you are in. Invest your money or build a business that can sustain you for long or at least if it gets successful then most of the money you are earning from your work today will be put in your savings or on investment.

Agreed. Whatever we are going through, it'll all pass. Most people don't realize this and they are just using up all their luck and energy when they still have it. Ever since a little boy, I was taught to be planning on many things, which is so beneficial to me nowadays. As I am still active and yet to enter old stage of life, I am trying all my best to manage finances in all aspects. Yesterday I was taking a day off to drive my wife and kid to the local museum. We had a wonderful time. It cost me some money but was never a burden to my income. Apart from the daily expenses, I channel all the remainings into savings which will lead to a more fruitful and secure life when I am old.
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April 06, 2023, 10:38:49 AM
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Giving advice in this situation is probably not very effective, because. everyone's situations are different. But... You can't devote your whole life only to earning money, otherwise you simply won't be able to enjoy the results of your work. As the saying goes, "I looked back at the end - and there was nothing behind - no family, no children, no friends, no health ... Just a lot of money that can no longer be used." In a word, everything needs a balance, and the search for more effective solutions for making money than working 24x7 but not living a full life!
I also went through something similar, and when I analyze this period of life now, I understand that perhaps it was necessary in order to achieve a good standard of living at the moment, but you are right that you need to be able to stop at some point and devote enough time to yourself and family, without this we cannot be happy.

Ultimately, with proper budgeting, our fortune will always increase, so it is very important to learn how to live in pleasure now and gradually move towards achieving our goals.
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April 06, 2023, 10:47:57 AM
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Health and body are the only things that must be prepared until getting old. Everything other is secondary. Money can always be earned. Saving can eventually turn into zero. I see a lot of people suggest to save. But what if it turns that you wont be able to use savings at all. Sudden death can cross out all retirement plans and turn saving, investing and economizing into waste of time. Nowadays, it is hard to predict what will happen in the world in few months. Today you are investor, have bank account, property, and tomorrow you are a refugee with nothing in pocket standing in line for free food.

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April 06, 2023, 02:18:57 PM
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we really have to prepare everything since we were young. I am also quite diligent in saving. but now I also become more diligent to invest. as in bitcoin accumulation. I believe if I hold it for more than 10 years then it can help my economy when I'm old. I also invest in other things for the long term. because I also learned from the experience of my own parents who have a little regret due to not preparing much financially for their old age. so at this time they had little regret. but fortunately my parents' children almost all became quite successful people. so that everyone works together to please our parents. and we try to make our parents can live comfortably and happily in their retirement. So that our parents are always grateful to have good children who are devoted to them. and we realize that our parents have actually invested in educating us to be successful people. but I want to have a more mature preparation for my own old age. and I want to have financial freedom before I'm 40 years old. I work hard and I keep putting money away to invest for the long term.

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April 06, 2023, 02:29:03 PM
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I think it is important to remember that not having any money is not a shameful thing, and it happens to so many people in the world. Of course we should try to be richer, but at the same time we should look for peace in our life as well. Can I get richer? Can I be so much richer in 10 years that I would be going to New York and Paris and Milan for summer shopping?

I can, I really can, or at least I can try to, I can have a goal to do that. How? Simply just gather all my friends, and apply to all types of banks all together, and sell all the assets we have, buy a plot of land in a good place, build an apartment with 20-40 houses, sell them each, and be rich, and do this some more times and you are rich. Why not do it?

Because, a million things would go wrong and make us upset and have a worse life, richer but more angry and less happy. Sometimes money and lack of it, is not the end of the world.
Not having money might not be a shameful thing but considering the economic crisis that we usually get into and the high rate of inflation, it almost gets impossible to survive without having enough money, and if we are talking about the preparations for the future or after retirement, it obviously isn't a good thing if you have nothing by that time.

It won't be your prime time and you cannot just do whatever you want at that age, so you need to do whatever is required to have a better future in present, and the goal should be to accumulate enough wealth to spend a peaceful life later on while you are still in good shape and health.

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April 06, 2023, 02:33:16 PM
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By saving money like banknotes, you will eventually be left with nothing; inflation is ruthless. Any money should work and not be a dead weight.
They say that for up to thirty years, a person works for a name, and after thirty, your name should work for you.
Worrying about the future begins with our childhood, education, and qualifications, and investing some of the money earned in real estate, gold, and now also in Bitcoin, which can be good insurance for the future. While you are young, spare no effort or time to build your reputation. Starting your own business and working for yourself, and not someone else's uncle, should be the goal of young people. This is the only way to become independent of employers and look boldly into your elderly future.
I like this, Saving paper money will only waste time in collecting it because in the future it will be worthless because it is eaten by the cruelty of inflation, money must work to help us if it is only piled up then it will become a pile of newspapers that you sell at low prices oan someday.
The concept of pursuing the future that you provide is indeed very good advice, but maybe aren't some people who have that understanding, especially in the old days when accessing information was very difficult and life only aimed to fill the stomach from day to day, maybe you didn't even understand how to do it. and what investments are like, I think they just run life like running water. unlike the days that we can get via cellphone and it only takes a few minutes to do it.

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April 06, 2023, 03:03:29 PM
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From the OP's story, it must be concluded that it is important for us to prepare for the future and plan finances well from a young age. Sometimes, people can hide their plight and not reveal it until the end of their career. Therefore, it is important to have a good financial plan and invest in youth so that we can face the future better.

It's not always easy to live within our means, but it's important to save money and consider our financial situation for the long term. By setting a budget, avoiding unnecessary debt, and investing wisely, we can better prepare for the future and avoid unwanted financial problems.

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April 06, 2023, 03:09:07 PM
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If we are given age then we will get old age, and that's when the provision becomes very important, do not just rely on income when old, immediately take real action and preparation from now so that when we are old then we no longer work and enjoy the current work results .
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April 06, 2023, 03:09:52 PM
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Always plan for the future. What do you think ?

You have made a very good scene of the situation and that reflects the reality of life that it is not all rosy especially as the times whine down. However, sometimes young people have beautiful plans for themselves but government doesn't really provide environment for proper economic growth. To plan financial stability for the old age, it doesn't exclude having capital and government can go far in supporting the youth by providing access to interest free loan, at least that will help. As a fresh graduate from college, there should be some financial support to start with and it appears that those kind of support existed in the past because back in the past there were availability of social funds, scholarships, instant employment after school etc but those benefit don't exist these days giving rise to high level of unemployment. I think the young people then were better off than young people now because they can financially plan there old age because of access to support that was available then but not now. The young people at this time face tough challenges but they keep striving for good life. The government need to rejuvenate the support system for the people.
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This uncle is still doing okay although with some struggles but I am sure there are millions who are broke and wish they could have made and saved more money when they were young.

People are broke due to improper planning and investment, there are people today who made lots of money but have not think of investment because they thought life would remain the same without thinking otherwise, whenever you invest money in a lucrative business that would guarantee you for at least 20 year time to come then there's nothing to worry about because your investment allover will still make rich.
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April 06, 2023, 04:09:43 PM
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If we are given age then we will get old age, and that's when the provision becomes very important, do not just rely on income when old, immediately take real action and preparation from now so that when we are old then we no longer work and enjoy the current work results .

It is easy to say that we will work hard now so that we can save for our retirement and use it when we are already old, but the truth is that we are barely living, our salary is just enough for us, and we don't have spare money to save. My point of view before was that if you just work hard, for sure you'll earn enough money even if you have less time, but right now we are crying about it since no matter how hard we work, how little sleep we get, and how much we sacrifice, at the end of the day it isn't enough. We are not all given the same opportunity; others can earn a lot doing simple things, but with us it is very difficult.
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To ensure a bright future, especially for our old ages, we must plan effectively.There are a lot of people who live conformable lives between the ages of 18years to 50years while they are still able to work and earn money, but they later begin living uncomfortable lives because they are unable to maintain their standard of living at their older age. like, they find it difficult to maintain their health standards and can't afford money to be taking proper hygiene which makes it difficult to maintain their standard of living. All of these problems are, in most cases, the result of their failure to plan for the future.Whoever doesn't plan, plans to fail, as the adage states rather clearly.

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