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April 18, 2023, 04:39:28 PM
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You  only live once, so enjoy life. I'm 81 in June, and I've moved into a converted van. I have no money worries, and I can eat steak and salmon when I want to. I talk to people living in houses who sit under blankets because they can't afford heating, and complain because the cost of bread has gone up. Just make sure you are healthy, and can enjoy good food and sunshine in a stress free environment. Don't get into debt. If you can't afford it, don't buy it.
Your lifestyle may not seem appropriate to most of us at our current age, but I am sure that we all wish to reach that stage of serenity where you can dispense with most of the luxuries of life and suffice with a little good health and some friends in the neighborhood. I still believe that living with a family that provides part of its efforts to help the elderly members is the best that anyone can get, but unfortunately this depends on fate, since we do not all live in families. It does not matter whether you are sick or healthy, as much as it is important that there are people near you.
As for debt, I do not think it is a good guarantee of a comfortable old age. On the contrary, it may be the reason for its destruction. It is best to avoid using this method in general.

By the way, it's been a long time since I last read one of your comments Jet Cash. It is good to see that you are still active on the forum and able to provide valuable input as you always do.
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April 18, 2023, 06:12:13 PM
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by reading what you have written, I am reminded of a saying that I have heard since I was in school, "Save from Rich". the proverb is almost similar to what the OP said, saving in youth will be a solution for old age. apart from the savings we have, if there is extra money since now then it's okay for us to put our money in something that can provide more value, or in other words is investing. with investment and savings I think old age will be happier

Investing is the best way to grow your savings, if you have time to participate in any types of investment and you succeed then
you will be able to enjoy financial freedom when you go old.

It's always a good way to think of your future while you are still young, many opportunities are open you just need to pick the right investment.

Be ready while you are still young, if possible, to think ahead and save the best for last.

Not everyone who invests will be successful and happy in their old age. there are also investments that make their old age worse if the investment they choose is not successful or fraud occurs in their investment, even unwanted things will happen. of course the risk is always there, and choose an investment that has full trust and the right investment. there is a bright side if saving is the last solution that makes old age better even though there is no increase in the value of the savings we have, at least we have savings and whenever we can have them.

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April 18, 2023, 06:29:00 PM
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April 18, 2023, 08:29:31 PM
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Preparation in time is a major factor we need to consider as human investing is also important to us so as to meet up our needs tomorrow
Be in touch with the online trade which has been helping many people today as a result of there investment
People no longer think if today but only think of tomorrow because it is a major priority of every human
So long as you alive
Well that's right. And I think that the current generation also seems to be a pretty good generation when it comes to financial management. I see many young people who have prepared themselves to get a comfortable life in the future. they invest and save for the long term. one of which they do in bitcoin. I am also included as a person who has planned preparations for the future. and that's why I always keep my money aside for me to put in long-term investments.

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April 18, 2023, 08:54:28 PM
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Not everyone who invests will be successful and happy in their old age. there are also investments that make their old age worse if the investment they choose is not successful or fraud occurs in their investment, even unwanted things will happen. of course the risk is always there, and choose an investment that has full trust and the right investment. there is a bright side if saving is the last solution that makes old age better even though there is no increase in the value of the savings we have, at least we have savings and whenever we can have them.
From what I usually see around me, old people will definitely choose investments that they think are very valuable and are in great demand by many people because old people usually think that something they invest can be more easily sold and easier to get a profit. when he is sold in a moment of sudden need for money or when he wants to share his inheritance with his children.

So it's not uncommon now that I often see parents who buy gold and land as assets that they think are good and that are also considered good investments for them even though for the younger generation now Bitcoin is also not so bad to choose as a long-term investment.
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April 19, 2023, 05:27:18 PM
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Not everyone who invests will be successful and happy in their old age. there are also investments that make their old age worse if the investment they choose is not successful or fraud occurs in their investment, even unwanted things will happen. of course the risk is always there, and choose an investment that has full trust and the right investment. there is a bright side if saving is the last solution that makes old age better even though there is no increase in the value of the savings we have, at least we have savings and whenever we can have them.
From what I usually see around me, old people will definitely choose investments that they think are very valuable and are in great demand by many people because old people usually think that something they invest can be more easily sold and easier to get a profit. when he is sold in a moment of sudden need for money or when he wants to share his inheritance with his children.

So it's not uncommon now that I often see parents who buy gold and land as assets that they think are good and that are also considered good investments for them even though for the younger generation now Bitcoin is also not so bad to choose as a long-term investment.

Yes, that's right, if the investment you are referring to is in the form of land and gold then it is very possible for someone to easily sell it when they need money suddenly or urgently.
but if the investment is in bitcoin then it may not be as easy as investing in gold and land even though investing in crypto can get a lot of profit if market conditions are favorable

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April 19, 2023, 05:47:55 PM
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Preparation in time is a major factor we need to consider as human investing is also important to us so as to meet up our needs tomorrow
Be in touch with the online trade which has been helping many people today as a result of there investment
People no longer think if today but only think of tomorrow because it is a major priority of every human
So long as you alive
Well that's right. And I think that the current generation also seems to be a pretty good generation when it comes to financial management. I see many young people who have prepared themselves to get a comfortable life in the future. they invest and save for the long term. one of which they do in bitcoin. I am also included as a person who has planned preparations for the future. and that's why I always keep my money aside for me to put in long-term investments.

There are many open opportunities and one of them is investing into Bitcoin, if you have a good insight to what will be the future of this asset then better to invest as early as now, you need to prepare for your future as you don't know what will happen and what are you missing, when you realize things, it's already too late.

Better to make a good investment and start saving your money to prepare yourself when you get old. You are financially stable.

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It is not a bad idea, the purchase of properties, but times change and holding a property plus taxes is a liability that entails expenses, and depending on the country, it is not the best long-term vision.

 Times change, investing in other types of assets is more profitable, in fact things like writing a book, creating content allow many to live peacefully in their old age.

 Before, these things belonged to a few, but nowadays you can live peacefully with some views, for example.  Smiley

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April 19, 2023, 08:10:13 PM
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Preparation in time is a major factor we need to consider as human investing is also important to us so as to meet up our needs tomorrow
Be in touch with the online trade which has been helping many people today as a result of there investment
People no longer think if today but only think of tomorrow because it is a major priority of every human
So long as you alive
Well that's right. And I think that the current generation also seems to be a pretty good generation when it comes to financial management. I see many young people who have prepared themselves to get a comfortable life in the future. they invest and save for the long term. one of which they do in bitcoin. I am also included as a person who has planned preparations for the future. and that's why I always keep my money aside for me to put in long-term investments.
With today's technological advances and coupled with the conditions where young people are today, of course, this is very good because they can take advantage of the times and not reject various aspects of knowledge. Even though not all of them are prepared, at least there are a lot of young people who are quite successful and can be used as a reference for things like this.

They realize that self-preparation is quite important so they don't delay things like this.

Now there are a lot of supporting factors that can be utilized to make a good life and now it depends on our willingness whether it will only be stuck in place or move and want to live better.

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Preparation in time is a major factor we need to consider as human investing is also important to us so as to meet up our needs tomorrow
Be in touch with the online trade which has been helping many people today as a result of there investment
People no longer think if today but only think of tomorrow because it is a major priority of every human
So long as you alive
Well that's right. And I think that the current generation also seems to be a pretty good generation when it comes to financial management. I see many young people who have prepared themselves to get a comfortable life in the future. they invest and save for the long term. one of which they do in bitcoin. I am also included as a person who has planned preparations for the future. and that's why I always keep my money aside for me to put in long-term investments.
With today's technological advances and coupled with the conditions where young people are today, of course, this is very good because they can take advantage of the times and not reject various aspects of knowledge. Even though not all of them are prepared, at least there are a lot of young people who are quite successful and can be used as a reference for things like this.

They realize that self-preparation is quite important so they don't delay things like this.

Now there are a lot of supporting factors that can be utilized to make a good life and now it depends on our willingness whether it will only be stuck in place or move and want to live better.
In the end, everything will depend on our own will. If we as the younger generation have high motivation to move forward, then at this time opportunities in all fields are very open for us to enter as long as we are willing to learn. Because now it's easy to access information to add insight and various skills for ourselves, it's also quite easy to get. Even with just a smartphone and an internet connection, we can learn a lot from the internet.

In the past, people had difficulty getting insight because there was no internet world. In the past, if we wanted to gain insight, we had to go to school or to a library to read more books. but now we can access various kinds of books that contain insights from around the world via the internet. so that the current obstacle for the younger generation is only in growing motivation. because sometimes the result of the convenience of technology can actually make the younger generation lazy to learn. their motivation is low in learning because they think that there is no need to learn because if they need information and insight then they only need to look for it on internet search engines to find information.

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Last week, I met one of my uncles-in-law who has been a sailor for many years. In the past decade, he has been out of town and travelling all over the world to make a living. He has two children to raise and being a father who is always absent from their growing-up, he somehow does not know how to get along with his kids once he is back home once a year. In this transition period, usually like one month or two, he will find him some odd jobs  to make money to support his family. Unfortunately in this economic downturn, it is very difficult to find a job so he is quite upset now. Staying at home means no income and this makes my aunt very anxious. This uncle is in mid fifties and he is one of the most diligient people I've ever known. Ever since he was young, he would always keep busy doing all kinds of jobs to make money. I have to say that he made some savings for some years but it was most used up by sending his daughter to study overseas. Under today's economic condition, he has to wait more time to be assigned onboard and it is said his salary will be slashed big next time he has an offer. Well, to make a living, he has to accept that. He used to be a happy-go-lucky guy and always have a smile every day, last week I saw him, he was more like silent and upset.

As he ages, the window for him is closing. I never saw him encounter any financial problem because he has been diligient and frugal. This meet-up has completely changed my mind. Even people like him are struggling financially and we'd better prepare a comfortable life for the old version of ourselves. This uncle is still doing okay although with some struggles but I am sure there are millions who are broke and wish they could have made and saved more money when they were young. Always plan for the future. What do you think ?

I completely agree with your point of view. It is important to plan for the future and save money while we are young, so that we can have a comfortable life when we are older. Your uncle-in-law's story is a reminder that even the most diligent and hardworking people can face financial struggles, especially in today's economic conditions. It is important to be prepared for unexpected situations and have a financial plan in place.

 We should not take our financial stability for granted and always strive to save and invest for the future. Your uncle-in-law's story is a lesson for all of us to be mindful of our finances and plan for the future.

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We should not take our financial stability for granted and always strive to save and invest for the future. Your uncle-in-law's story is a lesson for all of us to be mindful of our finances and plan for the future.
I remember the sentence "When you are rich then think if destiny changes you will be poor", I have changed the pattern of economic management in the last few years to save for old age because we will not get the same income every month and we can even lose our jobs at any time and there is no income, for example during the last pandemic many people lost their jobs due to economic difficulties companies, people without savings would find it difficult to buy food needs and some hoped for assistance from the government. In conclusion, we must set aside money for savings from each income/salary, savings are also useful for mandatory emergency needs in personal or family financial management.

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People no longer think if today but only think of tomorrow because it is a major priority of every human
So long as you alive
It's the opposite that I know of from the community that I'm living in. They think that we only live once and that's why they enjoy the things that they can enjoy today through pleasures and never think of what's about to happen by tomorrow. They never think about their future and that's why the most important thing to them is present which is actually true but their approach and way of demonstrating it is in the wrong ways.
Yeah, we only live once and that's why we need to prepare and be better with the future that's heading to once because we'll never know if the same ways of living will still be in the future or we can still enjoy by that time or we'll face a lot of troubles and problems because of our ignorance today in saving, investing and preparation.

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April 19, 2023, 09:54:40 PM
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The word you are trying to say is save the money before get into old ages.It’s essential topic to most of lazy people,they have to analysis their income and expenditure.Because they save money at the younger ages,So they live the old ages in happy one.It’s like an happy retirement by their savings,it doesn’t mean they need to retire from their regular jobs.Crypto currency will be the best option to save their money for longer period.The money their are going to save for old ages was not dependent by them.So they inverse in bitcoin for longer period of time.Then when bitcoin price pump to ATH,you can cash out to fiat.

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People no longer think if today but only think of tomorrow because it is a major priority of every human
So long as you alive
It's the opposite that I know of from the community that I'm living in. They think that we only live once and that's why they enjoy the things that they can enjoy today through pleasures and never think of what's about to happen by tomorrow. They never think about their future and that's why the most important thing to them is present which is actually true but their approach and way of demonstrating it is in the wrong ways.
Yeah, we only live once and that's why we need to prepare and be better with the future that's heading to once because we'll never know if the same ways of living will still be in the future or we can still enjoy by that time or we'll face a lot of troubles and problems because of our ignorance today in saving, investing and preparation.

Agreed and sad to see so many people misinterpret or try to distort the real meaning of it. I have no idea if there is any correlation between being rich and planning for the future but most rich people in my big family are very frugal and they always plan for the future. They don't complain about "live in the present", "enjoy the moment"  because they all have clear goal of what kind of life they are envisioning and how to get it. On the contrary, the less fortunate people who barely make ends meet tend to spend most spare money on leisure and keep saying "we only live once". I used to explain the meaning to them but not any more. It's just impossible. We only live the way we choose.
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April 20, 2023, 07:46:15 AM
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We should not take our financial stability for granted and always strive to save and invest for the future. Your uncle-in-law's story is a lesson for all of us to be mindful of our finances and plan for the future.
I remember the sentence "When you are rich then think if destiny changes you will be poor", I have changed the pattern of economic management in the last few years to save for old age because we will not get the same income every month and we can even lose our jobs at any time and there is no income, for example during the last pandemic many people lost their jobs due to economic difficulties companies, people without savings would find it difficult to buy food needs and some hoped for assistance from the government. In conclusion, we must set aside money for savings from each income/salary, savings are also useful for mandatory emergency needs in personal or family financial management.
The steps you are taking are very precise. Because we have to prepare everything for our future from now on. we mustn't procrastinate. because we don't know what will happen in the future. Having savings for old age, emergency savings and investing for a better future are 3 things we must do immediately and regularly/disciplined/consistently.

Yes, it is true that an example of an unexpected event is the arrival of the Covid-19 pandemic. Everyone who didn't have preparation and savings before the pandemic started, surely when the pandemic took place many experienced financial difficulties. because even many who have lost their jobs or who have businesses also have to be forced to close their businesses due to quarantine.
but for those who already have an emergency fund and future savings then I don't think they have too much trouble. In fact, I see many people buying property at low prices during the pandemic. because the initial property owner sold his property cheap due to economic pressure. And in the end, those who have the preparation are the lucky ones.

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People no longer think if today but only think of tomorrow because it is a major priority of every human
So long as you alive
It's the opposite that I know of from the community that I'm living in. They think that we only live once and that's why they enjoy the things that they can enjoy today through pleasures and never think of what's about to happen by tomorrow. They never think about their future and that's why the most important thing to them is present which is actually true but their approach and way of demonstrating it is in the wrong ways.
Yeah, we only live once and that's why we need to prepare and be better with the future that's heading to once because we'll never know if the same ways of living will still be in the future or we can still enjoy by that time or we'll face a lot of troubles and problems because of our ignorance today in saving, investing and preparation.

Agreed and sad to see so many people misinterpret or try to distort the real meaning of it. I have no idea if there is any correlation between being rich and planning for the future but most rich people in my big family are very frugal and they always plan for the future. They don't complain about "live in the present", "enjoy the moment"  because they all have clear goal of what kind of life they are envisioning and how to get it. On the contrary, the less fortunate people who barely make ends meet tend to spend most spare money on leisure and keep saying "we only live once". I used to explain the meaning to them but not any more. It's just impossible. We only live the way we choose.
Poor mindset will never think about their future because what they are just being rich today and enjoying life while still alive while minding out what will happen when they are not capable enough to work. It is contrary to the rich mindset, they are preferred to sacrifice their happiness today but later part when they become financially stable, that was the time they travel around the world enjoying life worrying nothing as they have money to come into their pocket even if they don't work.

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April 20, 2023, 12:21:50 PM
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Preparation in time is a major factor we need to consider as human investing is also important to us so as to meet up our needs tomorrow
Be in touch with the online trade which has been helping many people today as a result of there investment
People no longer think if today but only think of tomorrow because it is a major priority of every human
So long as you alive
Investing now should not guarantee us of living a better life when we grow older. We need to take a look on our environment and people we mingle with to confirm if our investment would be meaningful when we hope on them. There are a lot o investments that had yielded to be in vain probably not get what you have suffered for or invested in due to crash or bankruptcy. We should always make our investment to be solid and put in different sources os in case the other do not give us what we expected, the rest would make us smile.

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April 20, 2023, 12:35:48 PM
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Preparation in time is a major factor we need to consider as human investing is also important to us so as to meet up our needs tomorrow
Be in touch with the online trade which has been helping many people today as a result of there investment
People no longer think if today but only think of tomorrow because it is a major priority of every human
So long as you alive
Investing now should not guarantee us of living a better life when we grow older. We need to take a look on our environment and people we mingle with to confirm if our investment would be meaningful when we hope on them. There are a lot o investments that had yielded to be in vain probably not get what you have suffered for or invested in due to crash or bankruptcy. We should always make our investment to be solid and put in different sources os in case the other do not give us what we expected, the rest would make us smile.

Exactly mate and in other words, we shouldn't put all our eggs in on basket and this has been one of my greatest agenda while preaching the gospel of saving.
Most times put all their hopes and efforts in just one channel and at the end of the day get so disappointed even to the point of commiting suicide and I've seen a case when a lady was seriously preaching against savings, not just because saving is bad but we should also know that everything in life has both good and it's bad  area and after some questioning, it was discovered that her husband died commiting suicide after he lost everything had after investing in cryptocurrency, Bitcoin precisely, hence people should know how to diversify their savings and also do a proper research before doing any research.

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April 20, 2023, 12:57:45 PM
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This thread reminds me a situation which has become very common here in my country, unfortunately.
Nowadays, most elderly here basically depend on their family to continue to live, since the situation with our economy and the national currency destroyed their income and their social security which they accumulated during their whole life.

Their adult children are those in charge or provide them food, medicine and pay for their medical expenses, otherwise, they would starve to death or die from some completely treatable illness, like high blood sugar or high blood pressure.

Unfortunately, there are elderly who were not so lucky to have a family that cared about them enough to pay for them to continue to live in a proper manner. Those choose to commit suicide or just wait for their deaths quietly. It is a cruel destiny for several people here.

Here there is an article about the situation, if anyone feel curious: https://www.thenewhumanitarian.org/news-feature/2020/02/25/Venezuela-elderly-hunger-crisis

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