Enough to consider a casino scam?

[Dunamisx]

Just as we have different measures to take or use in assuming a casino to be a scam casino, they also have their gamblers in categories with order of priority base on the class we fall in, because some gamblers were already a suspected gambler believed to have been involved in any shady act which goes contrary to their wish, all these fall under a different category as well, and when we want to talk about scam in gambling, it both occur to the both parties which are the casinos and the gamblers.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Just as we have different measures to take or use in assuming a casino to be a scam casino, they also have their gamblers in categories with order of priority base on the class we fall in, because some gamblers were already a suspected gambler believed to have been involved in any shady act which goes contrary to their wish, all these fall under a different category as well, and when we want to talk about scam in gambling, it both occur to the both parties which are the casinos and the gamblers.

This is normal with every business, not particularly casinos alone, as the owner of a business, it is a mandate to know all your customers and place them in groups or levels, every business knows who their number one, two and three customers are, and for casinos, it is the same, that is one of the reasons why some big and advanced casinos have the ranking system, in the form of different levels of Vips..

And yes, indeed, scam occurs in both ways, there are gambler who find there way to scam the casino, but the thing is, such thing is very rare, casinos scamming gamblers is very much more common/regular.

[Wiwo]

Just as we have different measures to take or use in assuming a casino to be a scam casino, they also have their gamblers in categories with order of priority base on the class we fall in, because some gamblers were already a suspected gambler believed to have been involved in any shady act which goes contrary to their wish, all these falls under a different category as well, and when we want to talk about a scam in gambling, it both occur to both parties which are the casinos and the gamblers.

Exactly I have heard a similar case to what you mentioned, the gambler account was automatically banned due to the evil committed by other IP users, and this is a clear sign that casinos always follow players login details and store some information on their database  such as IP addresses to use to combat abusers who. May want to abuse the casino with multiple accounts, but in oopensituation, he was not informed of what his offences are and why his kyc got through but his withdrawal get stocked up till now.

So the casino has some explaining to do for ops, apart from. The official statement some investigations need to be done on the account to ascertain, what is the problem.

[Vaculin]

Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

My question is isn’t your friend aware about the terms of service before he starts to gamble? Because if not, that’s probably the reason why such gamblers jump to conclusion that they are being scammed by casinos because the casinos are not doing the right thing. KYC is not new anymore, so it’s better to accept that KYC is already compulsory than trying to skip from it. But in your case, if KYC is not approved, there must be something wrong with it. Your friend has mistakenly make an error probably that made the casino disapprove his request.

[freedomgo]

Gamblers become too lazy to read the ToS because of their obsession to eagerly make profits. To avoid getting into trouble, make sure to understand well the terms and conditions in each gambling casino so that if there are instances like this, you will not resort into panicking and spread some lies that this certain casino is cheating and scamming.

Yes, it's true, many gamblers are lazy to read TOS at casinos, even though understanding TOS at casinos is very important and must be done by all gamblers so they don't make mistakes or violate what has become casino rules and policies.
As you said, there are some gamblers who actually blame or claim that the casino has cheated them, but when we do research and explore everything, it's not the casino that's at fault, but the gambler who is actually guilty for violating the rules of the casino.
But what can make the TOS a text that contains quite a lot so it's only natural that there are still many gamblers who ignore it and prefer to prioritize their profits.

I guess no matter how we’ll educate gamblers, it’s always a fact that not all gamblers were able to read and understand the casino ToS simply because it’s time consuming. After all, as long as you are just gambling rightly without any intention to create fraud, then you will never be suspected for any not righteous acts.

[bettercrypto]

You can only say that you have been cheated if you cannot withdraw the amount of 8000$ that you have in your balance at the gambling casino that you are playing.

      So from the very beginning you must read the rules that a casino has because from the very beginning you will know right away if you are going to deposit or not, that's how simple it is to understand.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Just as we have different measures to take or use in assuming a casino to be a scam casino, they also have their gamblers in categories with order of priority base on the class we fall in, because some gamblers were already a suspected gambler believed to have been involved in any shady act which goes contrary to their wish, all these fall under a different category as well, and when we want to talk about scam in gambling, it both occur to the both parties which are the casinos and the gamblers.

This is normal with every business, not particularly casinos alone, as the owner of a business, it is a mandate to know all your customers and place them in groups or levels, every business knows who their number one, two and three customers are, and for casinos, it is the same, that is one of the reasons why some big and advanced casinos have the ranking system, in the form of different levels of Vips..

And yes, indeed, scam occurs in both ways, there are gambler who find there way to scam the casino, but the thing is, such thing is very rare, casinos scamming gamblers is very much more common/regular.

    -   Sometimes there are casinos that see a leak by a smart gambler so he takes advantage of that opportunity to also milk the casino that he found a hole in this platform.

And vice versa as well, with casinos also taking advantage of the opportunity to do bad things to their players who can no longer release the money entered into their platform and they will take a step that they know a gambler can't do like of suddenly blocking its account.

Now, if a casino asks for a kyc for one of their players, that just means that it's normal because it's in a regulated business that they also gave requirements that the government needs that they must follow in terms of conditions.

[yayayo]

I think if there is no good reason why they need you to submit KYC then you can think that they are just making excuse not to pay you, but usually they will tell to you that to comply with their terms and condition you need to submit KYC and of course you can read it as well in their ToS. If they don't accept your KYC after you win nor give you bonus in their promotion, I think those are some of the signs that the gambling site could not be trusted in my opiniont.

ya.ya.yo!

[BobK71]

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Online casino can ask for KYC anytime but not pass KYC after winning $8000. It could be the smell of scamming. But the mistake of the gambler who deposits without knowing the conditions. He should have read the conditions well before registration.
If that casino doesn't allow its withdrawal then we can consider it as a scam site. KYC or any other terms should also be closely monitored for any discrepancies. Moreover, it is necessary to have a good knowledge about whether the site is currently working actively on gambling or not.

[serveria.com]

Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

Well, if they require KYC, normally a casino lets you know that before you're trying to withdraw your winnings. Even before you're allowed to bet. If they demand you to pass KYC after your bet won, yes, it's a 100% scam. You should create a thread in the Scam Accusations section.

[dezoel]

Well, I had an experience when I made a deposit and nothing happened, here's the point of online you take all the risks. The most unpleasant thing is that you can still be blocked by everything.

I would call it your fault since you decided to use a platform without proper research and understanding of their background instead of choosing a casino that is already trusted within the gambling community and has a good reputation. Scammers are always waiting for prey like you to choose their platforms and make deposits so that they can live their lives easier.

Where did you find that casino by the way? Were you actually not aware of the famous crypto casinos or you just wanted to try something new? And did you contact their support? I guess they didn't respond, and if they did, what did they have to say about it?

[danadc]

That has been the pattern of some personal platforms they does not ask for kyc verification but after sometime or after you have invested your money they begin to ask for kyc verification so I believe that he has been happening here before now so kyc has been what some casino platforms used to trap some people down

some of the platforms also demanded for kyc verification but some of the participant who patronize the platform does not want to follow the rules and the regulation or the platform sometimes you will not blame a casino platform that ordered all the participants to have their kyc before any other thing is there's one our selfishness that need us into any condition will find ourselves because of not doing a kyc

On the issue of Kyc, I personally prefer casinos that would straight away demand the user to pass kyc verification immediately after registering an account, that is, the user won't be allowed to deposit any money into the Casino unless he or she passes kyc verification, this make one gamble with peace of mind knowing that even if you win big amount of money, you won't be asked to verify your account before you can withdraw.
And have you ever noticed that most times, passing kyc verification at the beginning of account registration is easier, compared to when the casino forces you to do it before you can withdraw your money?

I think the same should be the case with the KYC issue as you are preferring. If a gambler gets approved after submitting KYC first then there will be no doubt. Gambler will deposit and withdraw from the platform without any fear of his account. Most of the time it is seen that many gambler gamble without completing the KYC and he is always in a panic and tries to withdraw if his amount increases a bit. If a casino makes KYC mandatory then it should be forced to do KYC after registration.

Everything is a problem when doing things that are Related to kyc and it is something that will always bring more Problems, on the one hand there are some that do not accept kyc,on the other hand there are others that comply with kyc and do not Approve them but continue asking for more documents,and third parties, there are others that do not approve them quickly and that causes people to think badly and not trust the casino,how problems that have to do with the casino Begin and the user pronounces himself through the networks, through the forum, and this from the kyc,The parties that defend their points of view will never agree.

[klidex]

Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

My question is isn’t your friend aware about the terms of service before he starts to gamble? Because if not, that’s probably the reason why such gamblers jump to conclusion that they are being scammed by casinos because the casinos are not doing the right thing. KYC is not new anymore, so it’s better to accept that KYC is already compulsory than trying to skip from it. But in your case, if KYC is not approved, there must be something wrong with it. Your friend has mistakenly make an error probably that made the casino disapprove his request.

If a casino refuses a gambler's KYC, it usually has good reasons for rejecting it.
One example of a gambler winning big but breaking the rules.
At this stage can't conclude the casino is a scam but the gambler himself made a mistake without reading the casino rules.
But in other cases, if gamblers want to withdraw big wins but KYC is refused without giving reasonable reasons, it means that the casino is a scam.

[Quidat]

Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

Well, if they require KYC, normally a casino lets you know that before you're trying to withdraw your winnings. Even before you're allowed to bet. If they demand you to pass KYC after your bet won, yes, it's a 100% scam. You should create a thread in the Scam Accusations section.

Most of the time it would really be put up into their terms and conditions about possible KYC if ever they would really be seeing some suspicious acts made out by a certain player but if they havent been able to mentioned or write it up on their TOS and then they do make out such action then its shady as hell or something that it is scammy.This is why whenever i do play on a site which is something new to me, then i do always make a screenshot their their TOS just incase i do make up some big wins and been had asked out for such matter then i could always be having that
contradiction which you could really be able to fight on.

[Bushdark]

It is good for us to be very careful how to make use of new casinos without reputation. Gambling is not something that we are just going to decide on the betting platform to use without doing some quick research to know if the site we are about to us is good and is going to pay us our funds when we eventually make some winnings.

Sometimes when we make search on the internet for the particular casino we are about to use, aw might not get a relaxing reply or not have a good conviction with doubt for whether we should continue or not. In this case it is good for us to try as much to make small deposit on the casino.
Play some bets, make winnings and try to withdraw whether it will be processed or not. This is one of the way to findout about the reputation of a new casino we intend using.

[Peanutswar]

First is to check their platform if they are registered or not this serves you an idea if they really want into a business of crypto gambling and not just a newly created website and just registered into a hostname, next is to read their faqs and terms and condition to have an idea if the platform is really good to be true for their players you can analyze on that because base on your statement you have an experience into a different gambling casino.

Next is observing if they care about their users, like having a good marketing strategy, fast response with concerns and take an action immediately because they do not seem sceptical already. Those are the common factors still better to observe before making a deposit.

[btc78]

Well, I had an experience when I made a deposit and nothing happened, here's the point of online you take all the risks. The most unpleasant thing is that you can still be blocked by everything.

you did not even clear what you are saying here , you made a deposit then? what do you mean nothing happened? have you tried withdrawing and got nothing ? are you being blocked?
maybe you have something done wrong and that is the reason why?
because only scam site that will act as you mentioned , those legit will not bother taking your money as long as you are not abusing their site.

[tazmantasik]

All casino have term of service actually about huge fund withdrawing, when first time creating casino account you can check about their term will required with KYC procedure when withdrawing big fund? if there are not any KYC required and you won big amount seems if casino need re KYC don't sure about that casino as trusted. Many added rule later when withdrawing big fund and problem facing if KYC failure what happen with our fund? will freeze and possibility to said about this casino as scam because make us difficult for withdrawing fund and required KYC later when withdrawing huge amount.

[xSkylarx]

Well, I had an experience when I made a deposit and nothing happened, here's the point of online you take all the risks. The most unpleasant thing is that you can still be blocked by everything.

you did not even clear what you are saying here , you made a deposit then? what do you mean nothing happened? have you tried withdrawing and got nothing ? are you being blocked?
maybe you have something done wrong and that is the reason why?
because only scam site that will act as you mentioned , those legit will not bother taking your money as long as you are not abusing their site.

I think he meant is that he deposited but he havent received it on the casino or it didn't reflect. But he should make sure check the transaction if it was already sent because there are instances that it reverted back to your own account but if ever the transaction went through then for sure it is best to contact the support but again if they deny it then that is really a scam casino you should stay away on it

[Nrcewker]

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

Greed is the main culprit here. These new shady casinos provide such attractive offers and bonuses, and hence people like your friends, easily gets attracted towards these sites. Now they trick you to deposit big and if you win here, then gonna state some points from their T&Cs and hence block your winnings. To be honest nothing can be done until and unless they have a good license provider. It will be better if you share us the link of the casino or create a scam accusations against them, as this will prevent further scams and will save people from their dirty hands.