Enough to consider a casino scam?

[slapper]

~snip~

Thus, a clear Example of this was in 2021 when I was the rise of the NFT games, where I thought it would be something that they were Going well, in a good way, I lost money in those games, in the only game that I did not lose Nothing was in Axie, but it is no longer the pamper, so things move that way, the least expected to cheat it, I have been seeing how many Projects that come out of new casinos, where they Enforce all licenses , Kyc and everything, the players end up chewing,so Nothing is sure,the safe for me are the casinos that have enough Reputation in the forum.

Which land is this? It's like a roller coaster, people. Extreme risk, tremendous gain. We may have lost some of our pizazz, but every autumn provides the perfect prelude to a soaring spring.

Even though Axie is no longer the prom queen, she should always remember that she is still a contender for the crown in the future. The catch? Learn the rules of the game thoroughly before you even think about playing

And dealing with casinos is like eating a sandwich made of mystery meat. Know your customer processes and licences are massive, but do they always succeed? Just barely. Consider looking at services that have received positive feedback from their peers, or diversify your assets by purchasing shares in several blockchains. This seems straight out of a playbook for victorious people, doesn't it?

[pawel7777]

There was a casino scam done with lasers vs a roulette wheel.  It measured bias on which numbers best to bet on every turn, somehow they created a system that would put players into profit.  The players won so much the casino came over and recognized lasers were being used.    The players won millions so it actually went into a court case, the Judge decided no specific rule existed to say players may not use lasers on casino premises so he gave a court order for the winnings to be released to players despite their extra scientific help.
  Maybe the judge thought it was good for science or academic endeavors, anyhow the casino lost but will have altered their rules and preconditions for play to include such genius inventions as gamesmanship outside of what they will ever allow as a win.

Interesting story, but I can't understand why would you refer to it as a scam. If all the player did was to use a laser to (I imagine) measure imperfections of the roulette wheel and take advantage of that, without tampering with it in any way - then I see nothing morally wrong with that. Good for him.
Assuming that whenever a player finds a way to shift the edge to his side it must be some sort of scam on his part is a bit unfair.
But it's amazing how creative people can get when there is money to be made.

[gunhell16]

Most scam casinos actually come from new casinos in this industry. Because others like gamblers and well-known influencers also planted in the minds of most gamblers that when a casino is new, the chances of you winning a lot of money are high.

It is these hyped things that they say are the ones that make an impression on the online gambling community, so many are victims of online casinos. The majority of people think that they will get a lot of money for a small amount in gambling, but they will realize in the end that they have lost a lot and even exceeded the small capital that they thought would be a big amount, but it turned out to be a big amount in the end. they will lose.

[khaled0111]

That is why whenever a site share the bonus or any other offer, everyone should gain good knowledge about that site before restoration or opposite. Until good information about that site is available, there should not be deposit. Moreover, I agree with you in any such case, one should definitely deposit a small amount of deposit first time, if that site get scammed you will loss all the assets so the maximum caution should be taken in this case.

You are right. New casinos usually attract new customers by offering high rewards and interesting promotions that are, most of the time, too good to be true. Unfortunately, many gamblers get lured by those fake promises and deposit too much money in hope to get a huge reward. At the end, they don't get any thing and their money get stolen by the scam casino. Gamblers should be more cautious and wait for reviews from more experienced users before sending their money to unknown persons.

[PX-Z]

That is why whenever a site share the bonus or any other offer, everyone should gain good knowledge about that site before restoration or opposite. Until good information about that site is available, there should not be deposit. Moreover, I agree with you in any such case, one should definitely deposit a small amount of deposit first time, if that site get scammed you will loss all the assets so the maximum caution should be taken in this case.

You are right. New casinos usually attract new customers by offering high rewards and interesting promotions that are, most of the time, too good to be true. Unfortunately, many gamblers get lured by those fake promises and deposit too much money in hope to get a huge reward. At the end, they don't get any thing and their money get stolen by the scam casino. Gamblers should be more cautious and wait for reviews from more experienced users before sending their money to unknown persons.

Well, most casino promotions are too good to be true actually so it's not new to anyone. Especially to a new casino who are trying to build their reputation. So you can't just decide a casino is suspicious or scam because of its promotions but for the past reviews it has. If it doesn't have review since its new, check their community in social media especially on this forum, if the representative is active promoting it here then it's safe to try at least a little deposit. Don't just barge and deposit a large amount in a new site. There are many incidents of a reputed casino become shitty because of its unfair terms, that's why become so wary trusting them especially a new one.

[FatFork]

There was a casino scam done with lasers vs a roulette wheel.  It measured bias on which numbers best to bet on every turn, somehow they created a system that would put players into profit.  The players won so much the casino came over and recognized lasers were being used.    The players won millions so it actually went into a court case, the Judge decided no specific rule existed to say players may not use lasers on casino premises so he gave a court order for the winnings to be released to players despite their extra scientific help.
  Maybe the judge thought it was good for science or academic endeavors, anyhow the casino lost but will have altered their rules and preconditions for play to include such genius inventions as gamesmanship outside of what they will ever allow as a win.

Interesting story, but I can't understand why would you refer to it as a scam. If all the player did was to use a laser to (I imagine) measure imperfections of the roulette wheel and take advantage of that, without tampering with it in any way - then I see nothing morally wrong with that. Good for him.
Assuming that whenever a player finds a way to shift the edge to his side it must be some sort of scam on his part is a bit unfair.
But it's amazing how creative people can get when there is money to be made.

Quite the intriguing tale indeed! Referring to it as a scam may indeed be a stretch if the player merely used a laser to analyze imperfections in the roulette wheel, but even if they didn't tamper with the roulette wheel directly, it feels like an unfair advantage. it's a fine line between what's considered fair play and exploiting vulnerabilities. This story certainly sparks an interesting debate.

[ethereumhunter]

Most scam casinos actually come from new casinos in this industry. Because others like gamblers and well-known influencers also planted in the minds of most gamblers that when a casino is new, the chances of you winning a lot of money are high.

It is these hyped things that they say are the ones that make an impression on the online gambling community, so many are victims of online casinos. The majority of people think that they will get a lot of money for a small amount in gambling, but they will realize in the end that they have lost a lot and even exceeded the small capital that they thought would be a big amount, but it turned out to be a big amount in the end. they will lose.

Gamblers should not have thought that a new casino could give them a chance to win big money. That is an erroneous thought because their chances of losing may be greater than the wins they can get.

But indeed, they also can win, especially if they can get lucky when gambling. They could prevent big losses if they used small bets and kept track of how long they had been gambling. But it depends on how they control the use of money.

[danadc]

Most scam casinos actually come from new casinos in this industry. Because others like gamblers and well-known influencers also planted in the minds of most gamblers that when a casino is new, the chances of you winning a lot of money are high.

It is these hyped things that they say are the ones that make an impression on the online gambling community, so many are victims of online casinos. The majority of people think that they will get a lot of money for a small amount in gambling, but they will realize in the end that they have lost a lot and even exceeded the small capital that they thought would be a big amount, but it turned out to be a big amount in the end. they will lose.

Gamblers should not have thought that a new casino could give them a chance to win big money. That is an erroneous thought because their chances of losing may be greater than the wins they can get.

But indeed, they also can win, especially if they can get lucky when gambling. They could prevent big losses if they used small bets and kept track of how long they had been gambling. But it depends on how they control the use of money.

But the idea of a casino is for people to think they can get a lot of money, that's what most attracts people to come in and play, one of the things I've always seen in casinos is that they make things They can be very pretty and with that they are attracted, there are people who eat what they see and only with that they can play and have a good time, yet casinos have many ways of attracting them and that is what differentiates one casino from another, each one Some of the casinos have ways to attract and the way they attract the most is by promising good Bonuses.

[DoublerHunter]

Most scam casinos actually come from new casinos in this industry. Because others like gamblers and well-known influencers also planted in the minds of most gamblers that when a casino is new, the chances of you winning a lot of money are high.

It is these hyped things that they say are the ones that make an impression on the online gambling community, so many are victims of online casinos. The majority of people think that they will get a lot of money for a small amount in gambling, but they will realize in the end that they have lost a lot and even exceeded the small capital that they thought would be a big amount, but it turned out to be a big amount in the end. they will lose.

Gamblers should not have thought that a new casino could give them a chance to win big money. That is an erroneous thought because their chances of losing may be greater than the wins they can get.

But indeed, they also can win, especially if they can get lucky when gambling. They could prevent big losses if they used small bets and kept track of how long they had been gambling. But it depends on how they control the use of money.

^The fact that it is important for gamblers to have realistic expectations when it comes to winning big money at a new casino. Assuming that a new casino will automatically increase their chances of winning is a mistaken belief, as the odds of losing may actually be higher than the potential wins. However, probably there is still a possibility of winning, particularly if luck is on their side. They can lessen the risk of significant losses by employing strategies such as using small bets and keeping track of their gambling duration because success in gambling depends on individual money management and self-control. In the end, we should be responsible gamblers as always.

[ethereumhunter]

But the idea of a casino is for people to think they can get a lot of money, that's what most attracts people to come in and play, one of the things I've always seen in casinos is that they make things They can be very pretty and with that they are attracted, there are people who eat what they see and only with that they can play and have a good time, yet casinos have many ways of attracting them and that is what differentiates one casino from another, each one Some of the casinos have ways to attract and the way they attract the most is by promising good Bonuses.

And these people should still be able to restrain themselves from being tempted by offers from casinos in the form of attractive bonuses. That's so they know that these attractive bonuses don't always come true because they will depend on each casino. And if the promotion comes from a scam casino, they obviously won't be able to get anything other than just depositing the money and just disappearing at the gambling table. This is why we must be careful in participating in the many offers provided by casinos so that we don't get scammed by the casino.

^The fact that it is important for gamblers to have realistic expectations when it comes to winning big money at a new casino. Assuming that a new casino will automatically increase their chances of winning is a mistaken belief, as the odds of losing may actually be higher than the potential wins. However, probably there is still a possibility of winning, particularly if luck is on their side. They can lessen the risk of significant losses by employing strategies such as using small bets and keeping track of their gambling duration because success in gambling depends on individual money management and self-control. In the end, we should be responsible gamblers as always.

Of course, there are still gamblers who can be lucky to win money from a new casino. But the problem is whether the new casino will allow gamblers to withdraw their money or will hold it for various reasons. But if the new casino is really serious about caring for its members and wants to grow the casino to be big, the casino will surely process its transactions according to what they say. And it is true that this will return to gamblers. That's why we must be able to become responsible gamblers who will not be tempted by offers that may not match reality.

[Doan9269]

Most scam casinos actually come from new casinos in this industry. Because others like gamblers and well-known influencers also planted in the minds of most gamblers that when a casino is new, the chances of you winning a lot of money are high.

It is these hyped things that they say are the ones that make an impression on the online gambling community, so many are victims of online casinos. The majority of people think that they will get a lot of money for a small amount in gambling, but they will realize in the end that they have lost a lot and even exceeded the small capital that they thought would be a big amount, but it turned out to be a big amount in the end. they will lose.

Gamblers should not have thought that a new casino could give them a chance to win big money. That is an erroneous thought because their chances of losing may be greater than the wins they can get.

But indeed, they also can win, especially if they can get lucky when gambling. They could prevent big losses if they used small bets and kept track of how long they had been gambling. But it depends on how they control the use of money.

Let's not also forget to discuss about the advantage in taking into consideration the new casinos as well, for everything, there's always an advantage and a disadvantage in it, there are many reasons why you could see gamblers inter in newly established casinos just because they aren't satisfied enough from the ones they have been using, that's why there's a need for a consistent upgrades in those casinos in other to help them maintain their security and gamblers as well, also trying out something is another desire which anyone can have taste for.

We may feel like trying a new casino features and make comparisons to what we've been receiving before, this is also a right to any gambler to choose his desiring platform to gamble on, but the risk of falling into scam casinos might have increased while doing this, most importantly, it Should be an occasional occurrence not what we should be doing often moving from one casino to another.

[coinerer]

Gamblers like us help scam casino sites.  Because when we carelessly start depositing without reading the rules of a casino site and lose those funds, we get excited and start calling the casino site a scam. So totally our fault and we are responsible for it.  So before making a deposit at any casino site one should research the site thoroughly.  Of course one should always focus on trusted casinos. and if one fails to recharge any casino site well then he shouldn’t definitely focus on the new site.

some gamblers come to a new site and try out a new casino just to see how the platform works. or to try to get a bonus that a new casino gives. I also do that sometimes, although I have a casino that I trust more. just in case I just used a small amount of money to try and get some experience in a new place.
but I have proven to myself that when you are comfortable playing at a trusted casino, it is difficult to move to another place. Of course, the assessment of each gambler will always be different.

There is nothing wrong with visiting a new casino site and testing the site or enjoying the bonus facilities.  But since it is a new site, you must check if there are any scam reports about that site before depositing there.  And in new condition large amount cannot be deposited there. In that case, even if that site is a scam, there is no major loss to be faced. we must keep this in mind. I think this is good strategy

Casino Scam is common with new sites. That is why whenever a site share the bonus or any other offer, everyone should gain good knowledge about that site before restoration or opposite. Until good information about that site is available, there should not be deposit. Moreover, I agree with you in any such case, one should definitely deposit a small amount of deposit first time, if that site get scammed you will loss all the assets so the maximum caution should be taken in this case.

How do you know if a new site is a scam when a new site is offering you a very good bonus and is actually paying you the bonus. and that's why you shouldn't gamble until a site is at least 6 months to 1 year old.  Because if a site survives in the market for 1 year, it does not seem to be easily scammed. but we panic and gamble when we see attractive high bonuses on new sites so they can scam us more easily.

[EarnOnVictor]

Gamblers like us help scam casino sites.  Because when we carelessly start depositing without reading the rules of a casino site and lose those funds, we get excited and start calling the casino site a scam. So totally our fault and we are responsible for it.  So before making a deposit at any casino site one should research the site thoroughly.  Of course one should always focus on trusted casinos. and if one fails to recharge any casino site well then he shouldn’t definitely focus on the new site.

some gamblers come to a new site and try out a new casino just to see how the platform works. or to try to get a bonus that a new casino gives. I also do that sometimes, although I have a casino that I trust more. just in case I just used a small amount of money to try and get some experience in a new place.
but I have proven to myself that when you are comfortable playing at a trusted casino, it is difficult to move to another place. Of course, the assessment of each gambler will always be different.

There is nothing wrong with visiting a new casino site and testing the site or enjoying the bonus facilities.  But since it is a new site, you must check if there are any scam reports about that site before depositing there.  And in new condition large amount cannot be deposited there. In that case, even if that site is a scam, there is no major loss to be faced. we must keep this in mind. I think this is good strategy

Casino Scam is common with new sites. That is why whenever a site share the bonus or any other offer, everyone should gain good knowledge about that site before restoration or opposite. Until good information about that site is available, there should not be deposit. Moreover, I agree with you in any such case, one should definitely deposit a small amount of deposit first time, if that site get scammed you will loss all the assets so the maximum caution should be taken in this case.

How do you know if a new site is a scam when a new site is offering you a very good bonus and is actually paying you the bonus. and that's why you shouldn't gamble until a site is at least 6 months to 1 year old.  Because if a site survives in the market for 1 year, it does not seem to be easily scammed. but we panic and gamble when we see attractive high bonuses on new sites so they can scam us more easily.

You can't use the age of a casino to judge in some cases, especially if they are not popular, they could scam you or not. The age is good, at least it would help one to review them online, but I can tell you that there are many casinos sites that are over 3 years but are still not popular, so if they would scam you or not you won't know because there is little or no information out there to know their reliability.

This is why it could be good to test them with little money first, that's if the bonus offered is so important to the person. If not, I would advise anyone to go for the old and reliable ones that one could review well online and have rest of mind with.

Another thing is the KYC, I simply can't deal with the casino which is no KYC, it automatically means they are not regulated.

[Eureka_07]

This is why it could be good to test them with little money first, that's if the bonus offered is so important to the person. If not, I would advise anyone to go for the old and reliable ones that one could review well online and have rest of mind with.

Another thing is the KYC, I simply can't deal with the casino which is no KYC, it automatically means they are not regulated.

I played with casinos that doesn't ask (from what I am aware of) for KYC before they were doing lots of promotions here and are managed by reputable managers, if they aren't,  I won't play there. These casinos though, are now asking for KYCs for some of their users. They were also launched their casinos around that time. Personally , I would only trust new casinos if I think that they have good professionalism and engagement with the community, which is rare to see nowadays since lots of potentially scam casinos are being launched from time to time.

[needmoney]

Hi friends, I have some questions for you guys about online casinos

What will you do if you don't know that a online casino will ask you for KYC after winning over 8,000$ on the platform? And you now manage to process with the verification and they failed to pass you? Can you consider such a casino a scam?

Also, imagine you get attracted to an online casino because of the bonuses they offer and you open an account and make your first deposit then you didn't receive the promised bonus, is this an act of scam or not?

I am trying to solve such an issue for someone very close to me and that the complaint he gave, I have no answer than maybe the bonus was canceled already before he made the deposit or there was a minimum deposit requirement.

Any other reasons?

I don't understand people who play shitty online casinos. Come to WEB3 casinos that no need KYC, instant payouts and everything is on chain with full decentralization

[LUCKMCFLY]

As op had stated submitted his KYC document and still the casino had not confirm it. He will need to wait for for more time for it to be confirmed than thinking that the casino is a scam. That is it the we can tell whether a casino is a scam or not. At least waiting for some time will be okay than thinking that they have taken all your money.

Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.

The KYC verification process usually doesn't take a long time and on average it only takes 24 hours to 48 hours so more than that time we will have a question mark so that the thought that the casino is a scam will appear by itself.
Waiting and being patient is boring, so it's normal for every gambler to feel annoyed when they have to wait for confirmation for several days.
I myself have never had a problem with any casino regarding KYC because a good casino with a good reputation and qualified service will immediately solve any problems that occur quickly.

Yes, there are kyc processes that are quite fast, but it also has a lot to do with how constant the player is, if he is a player who is always playing and has a good record, they can give him a lot of privileges, such as reviewing the kyc fast, I don't know, but I think that this can influence, in the same way a new player can have a little more delay so they have to study their way of playing, how they won and if their stay in the casino is legal, then I think that For these reasons is that the dekyc verification processes become so tedious and take a long time, which nobody likes, because they withhold money for not passing a verification, that's annoying.

[Hamphser]

As op had stated submitted his KYC document and still the casino had not confirm it. He will need to wait for for more time for it to be confirmed than thinking that the casino is a scam. That is it the we can tell whether a casino is a scam or not. At least waiting for some time will be okay than thinking that they have taken all your money.

Well yes, that is very easy to say, but it is another thing to be inside with the problem, if OP needs to get the money quickly, he needs his case to be Attended to as Urgently as possible, otherwise something has to be done Urgent to be able to attend to you, I have been in those situations and the worst thing they can tell you is to wait and be patient, that kind of makes the person get Annoyed and get angry at the casino, and sometimes the Support agents are the ones who They are to blame for that,that's why the support in a casino the more humans than AI there are to serve, the better.

The KYC verification process usually doesn't take a long time and on average it only takes 24 hours to 48 hours so more than that time we will have a question mark so that the thought that the casino is a scam will appear by itself.
Waiting and being patient is boring, so it's normal for every gambler to feel annoyed when they have to wait for confirmation for several days.
I myself have never had a problem with any casino regarding KYC because a good casino with a good reputation and qualified service will immediately solve any problems that occur quickly.

Yes, there are kyc processes that are quite fast, but it also has a lot to do with how constant the player is, if he is a player who is always playing and has a good record, they can give him a lot of privileges, such as reviewing the kyc fast, I don't know, but I think that this can influence, in the same way a new player can have a little more delay so they have to study their way of playing, how they won and if their stay in the casino is legal, then I think that For these reasons is that the dekyc verification processes become so tedious and take a long time, which nobody likes, because they withhold money for not passing a verification, that's annoying.

KYC process isnt really that mandatory specially if you are dealing with a crypto based casino unless if you are dealing with Fiat then it would be understandable. In speaking about verification process or time then

it would  really be entirely depending but most of them might really be just the same in speaking of time or what.Its true that taking too long on process in speaking about verification is something that we dont really like to experience such condition and this is why we would really want nor like to see other places or platforms which would really be giving out the opposite situation or experience.
We dont want KYc but if things turns out to be this way then there's no way that we could be able to avoid out but rather we do deal with it.

Casino scams are common because there are indeed platforms which is having this kind of intent on the first place on the time that they would really be launching then you would be able to notice and
observe that there's odd is happening.This is why its always been that important that you should really be mindful on what you are dealing with and making out some research.

[Odusko]

One thing you should settle within your mind is that casinos have 100% right to do whatever they like as long as, at every point of their policy and terms of service, casinos always mentioned that they have the right to either pay or not and since this is mentioned in their terms of service, there can take any action against any individual for whatever reasons.

So the issue of KYC should be aside and even the casino still has the right to either confirm a certification or not.

[serjent05]

Casino Scam is common with new sites. That is why whenever a site share the bonus or any other offer, everyone should gain good knowledge about that site before restoration or opposite. Until good information about that site is available, there should not be deposit. Moreover, I agree with you in any such case, one should definitely deposit a small amount of deposit first time, if that site get scammed you will loss all the assets so the maximum caution should be taken in this case.

Indeed newly created casinos have more tendency to scam their player since the casino has yet to establish any reputation and the site might be created as scamming of phishing their player of its important information.  So we should be vigilant and reserved when playing in a newly created casino.  There are lots of cases where the player is unable to withdraw their winnings in a newly created casino and ends up being scammed since they never get to withdraw their winnings until the casino shutdown.

[Slow death]

but we panic and gamble when we see attractive high bonuses on new sites so they can scam us more easily.

actually, it's not just the sign-up bonus that makes many people rush to create an account when there seems to be a new casino on the market, people rush to create an account at new casinos because as the casino is new, they can take their link from referrals and start to advertise in every corner of the internet and with that the person will earn money with the registration bonus and with the referral commissions, it becomes a good business when the person manages to get many referrals and in a new casino that is not a scam, Of course, no one has a crystal ball to predict the future and determine that the X or Z casino that appeared yesterday or today will become a scam tomorrow or in the next few days or weeks.

and because in the world of gambling it's all about betting and counting on luck what people do is exactly counting on luck when they create an account at some new casino and start to spread their referral link in various places on the internet, they they know the risk they will be taking that the casino can become a scam and all their efforts will be thrown in the trash, but as it is all about luck they decide to do this and then wait for time to show whether they will be lucky or not, now they will put a lot money in a new casino is something that is no longer counting on luck, that is stupidity in the extreme