Enough to consider a casino scam?

[khaled0111]

I don't understand people who play shitty online casinos. Come to WEB3 casinos that no need KYC, instant payouts and everything is on chain with full decentralization

Can you name some of those web3 casinos you are talking about? Can you share with us your own experience with them?
Sorry, am asking this because many casinos claim they are web3 but at some point they will ask you for identity verification and on most of them deposits and withdrawals are not insta't, as you need to deposit to their custodial addresses.

[abel1337]

Gamblers like us help scam casino sites.  Because when we carelessly start depositing without reading the rules of a casino site and lose those funds, we get excited and start calling the casino site a scam. So totally our fault and we are responsible for it.  So before making a deposit at any casino site one should research the site thoroughly.  Of course one should always focus on trusted casinos. and if one fails to recharge any casino site well then he shouldn’t definitely focus on the new site.

some gamblers come to a new site and try out a new casino just to see how the platform works. or to try to get a bonus that a new casino gives. I also do that sometimes, although I have a casino that I trust more. just in case I just used a small amount of money to try and get some experience in a new place.
but I have proven to myself that when you are comfortable playing at a trusted casino, it is difficult to move to another place. Of course, the assessment of each gambler will always be different.

There is nothing wrong with visiting a new casino site and testing the site or enjoying the bonus facilities.  But since it is a new site, you must check if there are any scam reports about that site before depositing there.  And in new condition large amount cannot be deposited there. In that case, even if that site is a scam, there is no major loss to be faced. we must keep this in mind. I think this is good strategy

Casino Scam is common with new sites. That is why whenever a site share the bonus or any other offer, everyone should gain good knowledge about that site before restoration or opposite. Until good information about that site is available, there should not be deposit. Moreover, I agree with you in any such case, one should definitely deposit a small amount of deposit first time, if that site get scammed you will loss all the assets so the maximum caution should be taken in this case.

How do you know if a new site is a scam when a new site is offering you a very good bonus and is actually paying you the bonus. and that's why you shouldn't gamble until a site is at least 6 months to 1 year old.  Because if a site survives in the market for 1 year, it does not seem to be easily scammed. but we panic and gamble when we see attractive high bonuses on new sites so they can scam us more easily.

Actually casino that has a good reputation is the one that least likely to scam you. Casino cares about their good reputation given that they spent a ridiculous amount of money on their promotions and maintain the kind of services they are doing for years. Casino won't sacrifice their casino for a little profit that they can get from you as they scam you. I'm sure that casino know that the trust that their community gives is more important than the money they can get if somehow they scam you. This is why casino industry is so competitive since they are so eager to get as many regular gamblers as they can and lessen the leaving regulars.

[ethereumhunter]

Most scam casinos actually come from new casinos in this industry. Because others like gamblers and well-known influencers also planted in the minds of most gamblers that when a casino is new, the chances of you winning a lot of money are high.

It is these hyped things that they say are the ones that make an impression on the online gambling community, so many are victims of online casinos. The majority of people think that they will get a lot of money for a small amount in gambling, but they will realize in the end that they have lost a lot and even exceeded the small capital that they thought would be a big amount, but it turned out to be a big amount in the end. they will lose.

Gamblers should not have thought that a new casino could give them a chance to win big money. That is an erroneous thought because their chances of losing may be greater than the wins they can get.

But indeed, they also can win, especially if they can get lucky when gambling. They could prevent big losses if they used small bets and kept track of how long they had been gambling. But it depends on how they control the use of money.

Let's not also forget to discuss about the advantage in taking into consideration the new casinos as well, for everything, there's always an advantage and a disadvantage in it, there are many reasons why you could see gamblers inter in newly established casinos just because they aren't satisfied enough from the ones they have been using, that's why there's a need for a consistent upgrades in those casinos in other to help them maintain their security and gamblers as well, also trying out something is another desire which anyone can have taste for.

We may feel like trying a new casino features and make comparisons to what we've been receiving before, this is also a right to any gambler to choose his desiring platform to gamble on, but the risk of falling into scam casinos might have increased while doing this, most importantly, it Should be an occasional occurrence not what we should be doing often moving from one casino to another.

You can try playing in a new casino to try out the features, but remember that we don't know how the service is. After all, many of the new casinos only provide good service at the start of their launch, but after a few months, they can no longer provide good service.

Apart from that, you also have to remember that you don't use a lot of money to try the features so that you won't regret it if something happens. And for those new casinos, if they can provide satisfactory service, there will surely be many people who return to gambling at the casino, which is an advantage for the casino.

[lienfaye]

Most scam casinos actually come from new casinos in this industry. Because others like gamblers and well-known influencers also planted in the minds of most gamblers that when a casino is new, the chances of you winning a lot of money are high.

It is these hyped things that they say are the ones that make an impression on the online gambling community, so many are victims of online casinos. The majority of people think that they will get a lot of money for a small amount in gambling, but they will realize in the end that they have lost a lot and even exceeded the small capital that they thought would be a big amount, but it turned out to be a big amount in the end. they will lose.

Gamblers should not have thought that a new casino could give them a chance to win big money. That is an erroneous thought because their chances of losing may be greater than the wins they can get.

But indeed, they also can win, especially if they can get lucky when gambling. They could prevent big losses if they used small bets and kept track of how long they had been gambling. But it depends on how they control the use of money.

Let's not also forget to discuss about the advantage in taking into consideration the new casinos as well, for everything, there's always an advantage and a disadvantage in it, there are many reasons why you could see gamblers inter in newly established casinos just because they aren't satisfied enough from the ones they have been using, that's why there's a need for a consistent upgrades in those casinos in other to help them maintain their security and gamblers as well, also trying out something is another desire which anyone can have taste for.

We may feel like trying a new casino features and make comparisons to what we've been receiving before, this is also a right to any gambler to choose his desiring platform to gamble on, but the risk of falling into scam casinos might have increased while doing this, most importantly, it Should be an occasional occurrence not what we should be doing often moving from one casino to another.

You can try playing in a new casino to try out the features, but remember that we don't know how the service is. After all, many of the new casinos only provide good service at the start of their launch, but after a few months, they can no longer provide good service.

Apart from that, you also have to remember that you don't use a lot of money to try the features so that you won't regret it if something happens. And for those new casinos, if they can provide satisfactory service, there will surely be many people who return to gambling at the casino, which is an advantage for the casino.

I agree. When you try a new casino don't use a huge capital to play. Just start with small amount and see if you'll be satisfied of their offered games and their services. But before that, take time to read their ToS to know their rules and be aware of the do's and don'ts because ignorance is not an excuse incase you violate a certain rule for not being aware.

There's nothing wrong if you want to explore but always be careful since not all casinos existing nowadays are legit. Thus, DYOR before playing to a specific casino to make sure you won't experience any problem related to scamming their players.

[Peanutswar]

but we panic and gamble when we see attractive high bonuses on new sites so they can scam us more easily.

actually, it's not just the sign-up bonus that makes many people rush to create an account when there seems to be a new casino on the market, people rush to create an account at new casinos because as the casino is new, they can take their link from referrals and start to advertise in every corner of the internet and with that the person will earn money with the registration bonus and with the referral commissions, it becomes a good business when the person manages to get many referrals and in a new casino that is not a scam, Of course, no one has a crystal ball to predict the future and determine that the X or Z casino that appeared yesterday or today will become a scam tomorrow or in the next few days or weeks.

and because in the world of gambling it's all about betting and counting on luck what people do is exactly counting on luck when they create an account at some new casino and start to spread their referral link in various places on the internet, they they know the risk they will be taking that the casino can become a scam and all their efforts will be thrown in the trash, but as it is all about luck they decide to do this and then wait for time to show whether they will be lucky or not, now they will put a lot money in a new casino is something that is no longer counting on luck, that is stupidity in the extreme

Part of their marketing strategy on it because people keep wanting to play immediately once they saw a really good amount of bonuses and rewards once they make their very first deposit and after they made on it they didn't read the terms and conditions of the event this serves as their mistakes often because some of the casino requiring the number of amount of wages needed and the number of games they need to get acquire to have a withdrawal with their winnings. The reason why some of them tell the casino is a scam is due to having lack of knowledge of the casino itself.

[piebeyb]

I don't understand people who play shitty online casinos. Come to WEB3 casinos that no need KYC, instant payouts and everything is on chain with full decentralization

Can you name some of those web3 casinos you are talking about? Can you share with us your own experience with them?
Sorry, am asking this because many casinos claim they are web3 but at some point they will ask you for identity verification and on most of them deposits and withdrawals are not insta't, as you need to deposit to their custodial addresses.

Yes just like you will ask this because almost everyone almost says about web3 enabled casinos then the funny thing is they are not fully decentralized anyway no one lasts long casinos like that and in the end they will control our account by asking KYC or documents, it's actually fine to remain anonymous without having to give our identity to the casino, but I think for my safety and convenience there is no problem playing in a big casino and giving my KYC documents.

If there was a site that lasted a decent decentralized casino and had a good reputation I would love to play there, but it's rare that I come across that, even if such casinos do exist they usually only last a few months after which they suddenly disappear.

[Yamifoud]

I don't understand people who play shitty online casinos. Come to WEB3 casinos that no need KYC, instant payouts and everything is on chain with full decentralization

Can you name some of those web3 casinos you are talking about? Can you share with us your own experience with them?
Sorry, am asking this because many casinos claim they are web3 but at some point they will ask you for identity verification and on most of them deposits and withdrawals are not insta't, as you need to deposit to their custodial addresses.

Yes just like you will ask this because almost everyone almost says about web3 enabled casinos then the funny thing is they are not fully decentralized anyway no one lasts long casinos like that and in the end they will control our account by asking KYC or documents, it's actually fine to remain anonymous without having to give our identity to the casino, but I think for my safety and convenience there is no problem playing in a big casino and giving my KYC documents.

If there was a site that lasted a decent decentralized casino and had a good reputation I would love to play there, but it's rare that I come across that, even if such casinos do exist they usually only last a few months after which they suddenly disappear.

Most of the casinos now are asking for KYC and so we need to take extra caution about whom we are dealing with. As their number is growing, many of them are totally fake and scam sites. I'm willing to submit my personal information if it was required but should be on reputable sites, not those sites that just pop up (new sites). The reputation of the sites really matters and we are dumb if we comply with KYC on questionable sites. 

[Negotiation]

This is why it could be good to test them with little money first, that's if the bonus offered is so important to the person. If not, I would advise anyone to go for the old and reliable ones that one could review well online and have rest of mind with.

Another thing is the KYC, I simply can't deal with the casino which is no KYC, it automatically means they are not regulated.

I played with casinos that doesn't ask (from what I am aware of) for KYC before they were doing lots of promotions here and are managed by reputable managers, if they aren't,  I won't play there. These casinos though, are now asking for KYCs for some of their users. They were also launched their casinos around that time. Personally , I would only trust new casinos if I think that they have good professionalism and engagement with the community, which is rare to see nowadays since lots of potentially scam casinos are being launched from time to time.

Better stay away from kyc sites. New online casinos are always looking for ways to improve the gaming experience and with the benefit of modern technology, they can enhance player entertainment and implement the latest trends. Recent trends may include gamification features and sites are using new platforms and using the latest technology so sites need to be reviewed to protect against scams.

[coinerer]

but we panic and gamble when we see attractive high bonuses on new sites so they can scam us more easily.

actually, it's not just the sign-up bonus that makes many people rush to create an account when there seems to be a new casino on the market, people rush to create an account at new casinos because as the casino is new, they can take their link from referrals and start to advertise in every corner of the internet and with that the person will earn money with the registration bonus and with the referral commissions, it becomes a good business when the person manages to get many referrals and in a new casino that is not a scam, Of course, no one has a crystal ball to predict the future and determine that the X or Z casino that appeared yesterday or today will become a scam tomorrow or in the next few days or weeks.

and because in the world of gambling it's all about betting and counting on luck what people do is exactly counting on luck when they create an account at some new casino and start to spread their referral link in various places on the internet, they they know the risk they will be taking that the casino can become a scam and all their efforts will be thrown in the trash, but as it is all about luck they decide to do this and then wait for time to show whether they will be lucky or not, now they will put a lot money in a new casino is something that is no longer counting on luck, that is stupidity in the extreme

Part of their marketing strategy on it because people keep wanting to play immediately once they saw a really good amount of bonuses and rewards once they make their very first deposit and after they made on it they didn't read the terms and conditions of the event this serves as their mistakes often because some of the casino requiring the number of amount of wages needed and the number of games they need to get acquire to have a withdrawal with their winnings. The reason why some of them tell the casino is a scam is due to having lack of knowledge of the casino itself.

There are many panic gamblers who will make a single deposit on a site and that site will earn huge amounts of funds.  So attractive bonuses will help a scam casino to scam huge amounts form this forum and also from outside. Bonuses are added through a program so any site can add bonuses to any user's account.  So one should not get too excited by the high deposit bonus and go gambling there.  First it should be ensured that the site successfully allows the user to withdraw funds

[needmoney]

I don't understand people who play shitty online casinos. Come to WEB3 casinos that no need KYC, instant payouts and everything is on chain with full decentralization

Can you name some of those web3 casinos you are talking about? Can you share with us your own experience with them?
Sorry, am asking this because many casinos claim they are web3 but at some point they will ask you for identity verification and on most of them deposits and withdrawals are not insta't, as you need to deposit to their custodial addresses.

Yeah I already tried JustBet and Zkasino as they are all fully decentralized. No KYC, no deposit, you are playing through your web3 wallet and it s really fast. I guess web3 casinos will be the next adoption. I remember only a few people were using Uniswap and dexes but now dexes have billions of volumes. I was sharing my GMX ref link at the beginning and now spreading my JustBet ref link. If you like you can play through my signature:) but it s up to you.

[needmoney]

I don't understand people who play shitty online casinos. Come to WEB3 casinos that no need KYC, instant payouts and everything is on chain with full decentralization

Can you name some of those web3 casinos you are talking about? Can you share with us your own experience with them?
Sorry, am asking this because many casinos claim they are web3 but at some point they will ask you for identity verification and on most of them deposits and withdrawals are not insta't, as you need to deposit to their custodial addresses.

Yes just like you will ask this because almost everyone almost says about web3 enabled casinos then the funny thing is they are not fully decentralized anyway no one lasts long casinos like that and in the end they will control our account by asking KYC or documents, it's actually fine to remain anonymous without having to give our identity to the casino, but I think for my safety and convenience there is no problem playing in a big casino and giving my KYC documents.

If there was a site that lasted a decent decentralized casino and had a good reputation I would love to play there, but it's rare that I come across that, even if such casinos do exist they usually only last a few months after which they suddenly disappear.

You should really check their documents and give it a try bro. https://docs.just.bet/justbet/ and https://docs.winr.games/

[EarnOnVictor]

This is why it could be good to test them with little money first, that's if the bonus offered is so important to the person. If not, I would advise anyone to go for the old and reliable ones that one could review well online and have rest of mind with.

Another thing is the KYC, I simply can't deal with the casino which is no KYC, it automatically means they are not regulated.

I played with casinos that doesn't ask (from what I am aware of) for KYC before they were doing lots of promotions here and are managed by reputable managers, if they aren't,  I won't play there. These casinos though, are now asking for KYCs for some of their users. They were also launched their casinos around that time. Personally , I would only trust new casinos if I think that they have good professionalism and engagement with the community, which is rare to see nowadays since lots of potentially scam casinos are being launched from time to time.

Better stay away from kyc sites. New online casinos are always looking for ways to improve the gaming experience and with the benefit of modern technology, they can enhance player entertainment and implement the latest trends.

So they tied the hands of the KYC casinos to this as well? I love it when people that don't have something meaningful to contribute keep mute rather than just writing for writing's sake and making a fool out of themselves. Any casino could advance in anything they want, it's their business, and mind you, KYC casinos are more popular and richer than no-KYC casinos. So, tell me who has more money to improve the security, user experience and technology of their business?

[TheGreatPython]

Casino Scam is common with new sites. That is why whenever a site share the bonus or any other offer, everyone should gain good knowledge about that site before restoration or opposite. Until good information about that site is available, there should not be deposit. Moreover, I agree with you in any such case, one should definitely deposit a small amount of deposit first time, if that site get scammed you will loss all the assets so the maximum caution should be taken in this case.

Indeed newly created casinos have more tendency to scam their player since the casino has yet to establish any reputation and the site might be created as scamming of phishing their player of its important information.  So we should be vigilant and reserved when playing in a newly created casino.  There are lots of cases where the player is unable to withdraw their winnings in a newly created casino and ends up being scammed since they never get to withdraw their winnings until the casino shutdown.

That's a very unlikely situation you described at the end, scam platforms barely shut down but they keep looking for more targets once they scam those who have been trapped by them, and the circle continues until the whole community knows about them and then people stop using the platform, and even after that, the developers come back with a different theme, a different website and start doing the same thing again.

This also used to happen back in the days of Bitcoin Doubler scams where once a website is abandoned by users since it wasn't paying, the developers used to create another website with another name and a theme and start their business again.

[klidex]

I don't understand people who play shitty online casinos. Come to WEB3 casinos that no need KYC, instant payouts and everything is on chain with full decentralization

Can you name some of those web3 casinos you are talking about? Can you share with us your own experience with them?
Sorry, am asking this because many casinos claim they are web3 but at some point they will ask you for identity verification and on most of them deposits and withdrawals are not insta't, as you need to deposit to their custodial addresses.

Yeah I already tried JustBet and Zkasino as they are all fully decentralized. No KYC, no deposit, you are playing through your web3 wallet and it s really fast. I guess web3 casinos will be the next adoption. I remember only a few people were using Uniswap and dexes but now dexes have billions of volumes. I was sharing my GMX ref link at the beginning and now spreading my JustBet ref link. If you like you can play through my signature:) but it s up to you.

Been asleep for a long time and now starting to wake up but bringing news about web3 casino, bit doubtful but sorry I didn't mean anything.
Most of the people here do not fully trust web3 casino for whatever reason because in the end they are not fully using the system that should be used in web3 casino.
On the other hand the casino you mentioned seems very foreign to me but I'm not really interested in new casinos.

[RILWAN]

Its a question of whether it is writen in the casino terms and condition that their may request for kyc at some point, and what most licensed casinos does is to write in the t&c that they may demand KYC, but if a casino is just out of to steal from players by bringing up things that are not necessary when a gambler wins a big amount, that one is a big scam.

[khaled0111]

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Thank you for the offer but I will pass. I took a look at just.bet and they don't have too many games and am mostly interested on slot games which aren't available there. I understand that they can't add more due to the decentralized nature of the casino and how it works, though.
I appreciate the no kyc policy but am curious to know how such casinos deal with cheaters and abusers!

[STT]

The most common social media post would be to entice people into an idea of doubling their money;  a new operation very much resembles something unknown and highly dangerous to the average user.  If anything its much more common in crypto for people to try this false operation type of thing.    Just digitally in games outside of crypto I've seen entire fake websites setup, live chat, fake users all sorts just to convince someone I can easily gain you profits here as I have 'a system' for easy profits.
  People must gain confidence somehow and there are many pit falls, the easiest most true advice is for people to stick to the very long term established casino setups.

Interesting story, but I can't understand why would you refer to it as a scam.

Well the court said it was science in the end so their opinion matters more.  I would label it as a scam initially because it was unknown and hidden technology used when no other player knew or had use of this, its clearly to an advantage and most would say unfair in competitive terms.  I applaud their ingenuity and invention of course but not in game terms really.

[needmoney]

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Thank you for the offer but I will pass. I took a look at just.bet and they don't have too many games and am mostly interested on slot games which aren't available there. I understand that they can't add more due to the decentralized nature of the casino and how it works, though.
I appreciate the no kyc policy but am curious to know how such casinos deal with cheaters and abusers!

We will see mate but at least they are trying. I believe they will add other games to compete with web2 casinos. And you cant cheat blockchain and the math.

Been asleep for a long time and now starting to wake up but bringing news about web3 casino, bit doubtful but sorry I didn't mean anything.
Most of the people here do not fully trust web3 casino for whatever reason because in the end they are not fully using the system that should be used in web3 casino.
On the other hand the casino you mentioned seems very foreign to me but I'm not really interested in new casinos.

I understand what you mean. Although most of them claim to be decentralized, it is not so. to understand this, it is necessary to look at the audit reports and contracts. JustBet and Zkasino are completely decentralized. Maybe there are a few more, but I take them as an example. According to their contract, all games and bankroll are on the chain and they have audit reports. If you win a large amount of money in a standard casino, your account will be banned or they will ask for KYC. somehow you can't get that money. But in web3 casinos, everything is on the chain and instantly reflected in your wallet.

[Desmong]

I don't understand people who play shitty online casinos. Come to WEB3 casinos that no need KYC, instant payouts and everything is on chain with full decentralization

Can you name some of those web3 casinos you are talking about? Can you share with us your own experience with them?
Sorry, am asking this because many casinos claim they are web3 but at some point they will ask you for identity verification and on most of them deposits and withdrawals are not insta't, as you need to deposit to their custodial addresses.

Many of these casinos just want to meet up with the trend so that they can help attracting gamers and gamblers to the platforms especially fans of the latest in trending. This is a normal thing we keep seeing in the gambling platform and we may not know when this will stop or end just to attract gamblers to there casino.

[pawel7777]

Interesting story, but I can't understand why would you refer to it as a scam.

Well the court said it was science in the end so their opinion matters more.  I would label it as a scam initially because it was unknown and hidden technology used when no other player knew or had use of this, its clearly to an advantage and most would say unfair in competitive terms.  I applaud their ingenuity and invention of course but not in game terms really.

I get your point, but when playing roulette, you're playing against the house, not other players. So if the player had used laser in a way that did not alter the behaviour of the wheel but (I assume) only measured the imperfections of the wheel to determine on which fields is the ball more likely to land - then I see nothing wrong with that. It's ultimately the casino's responsibility that their equipment works as it should.