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April 17, 2023, 05:27:08 PM
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I think you have misunderstood the concept of government and jobs out there. Government needs to be in place because thats how the society moves in an order. Without government, who will manage the infrastructure, schemes, security, and various services that runs the entire nation smoothly.  

The world wouldn’t be connected so smoothly as we see today. Obviously there are wars, calamities but we do manage them and Government plays big role with their mesh of regulations.

Unstructured democracy would never work this fine at all.

Coming to the job, well definitely all of the above need people working for them. While on the other hand, private industrialists would create more and more as and when they need. But without any government support everything will be disoriented and won’t work. So we need them and the jobs from them for sure.
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April 17, 2023, 06:42:14 PM
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In any advanced society research has shown that government alone can't handle employment issues alone without the involvement of the private sector in tackling it. And move over, government is believed not to be a good businessman that's why in most Western countries the government  privatized most of the supposed public sectors infrastructures and establishments as a pivot to well manage unemployment surge.

Everyone has a role to play as a citizen, we shouldn't all rely on white-collar jobs when we can learn certain entrepreneur skills to assist our self and be self-employed thereafter becoming an employer of labor therefore reducing the unemployment weight on the shoulder of the government.

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April 17, 2023, 07:18:37 PM
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Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

the ideas you have can make you and other people survive, by working on products that you manage other people are able to provide life for their families without having to wait from the government. I think having ideas and ideas is more important than expecting jobs from the government. The logic is like this, if the government opens up job opportunities in general, will every applicant be accepted? So that's why in my opinion, it's better for us to create jobs ourselves to help anyone who needs a job without having to wait for it from the government.

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April 17, 2023, 11:25:59 PM
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Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

the ideas you have can make you and other people survive, by working on products that you manage other people are able to provide life for their families without having to wait from the government. I think having ideas and ideas is more important than expecting jobs from the government. The logic is like this, if the government opens up job opportunities in general, will every applicant be accepted? So that's why in my opinion, it's better for us to create jobs ourselves to help anyone who needs a job without having to wait for it from the government.
As an individual then its better not to make yourself that heavily reliant on what the government is trying out to give out because not all the time it would be followed and would be implemented.Its better to make
yourself that heavily that trying your best to stand on your own.We do have other options and different path for us to take without needing to wait on what they are trying out to provide because not all the times
which government could be able to follow on what they had promised out earlier or into those times on election period. Survival of the fittest would be the main concern on here, if you are that
someone who dont strive for better living and just contented on being poor then its your choice to make.

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April 18, 2023, 12:06:39 AM
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Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.
I agree with you, we don't have to wait for the government to give us jobs before we can be independent. There are many ways to earn an income and achieve success in life, including starting your own business or developing the skills to offer a valued service to others as you are doing now with your popcorn business.

It is important to remember that being an entrepreneur or self-employed requires specific skills and the ability to take risks. However, with consistent study and practice, anyone can develop these skills and achieve success. You just need to be patient and consistent, I'm sure your business will continue to grow and become big.

I think not everyone who works under the government will achieve success in life. However, one must know that government jobs can also be a good choice for many people, especially those who seek stability and security in their careers. Everyone has different choices in life, and the most important thing is to choose the best path for yourself and take action to achieve their goals.
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April 18, 2023, 06:25:47 AM
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Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

the ideas you have can make you and other people survive, by working on products that you manage other people are able to provide life for their families without having to wait from the government. I think having ideas and ideas is more important than expecting jobs from the government. The logic is like this, if the government opens up job opportunities in general, will every applicant be accepted? So that's why in my opinion, it's better for us to create jobs ourselves to help anyone who needs a job without having to wait for it from the government.
While it may not be particularly simple, most regions don't even appear to have guardians like the government existing, instead, all the elected officials seem to be concerned about is their own interests and their own pockets. I can still clearly recall how during the covid 19 in my region, all that people could do was support one another. However, a very long time ago, people lost faith in the government, and there has been a serious problem with the rate of unemployment rising with a large number of recent graduates. The best we can do is to empower ourselves and start a small-scale business to be able to feed ourselves.

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April 18, 2023, 06:43:24 AM
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It's a waste of time to wait for the government to provide you with employment as a citizen or graduate; in my country, thousands of graduates have been unable to find employment since they graduated. Everyone in the country should, in my opinion, consider starting a business before looking for employment; regardless of how great or awful your country is, you must find something that will provide for your needs because no one can foresee the future.
You can work for the government and run a business at the same time. In fact, I've known many people who do both to ensure that their needs are met. This is because government work is not something you will do all the way to the end of your life; eventually, you will need to retire and won't be receiving a salary like you do when you're working, which is why we shouldn't rely on it for our daily needs.

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April 18, 2023, 06:51:27 AM
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Let us be realistic to ourselves, is good to extreme to wait for government to make provision of every in a country, sometimes when we graduate from higher colleges we expected government to create employment opportunities but in some points government keep adamant of making employment be visible and available to the mass,  on my instinct I said without government employment man can survive, I started a popcorn 🍿 business which I managed alone but right now have workers under me which I'm paying and now planning to establish another business.

Congratulations buddy for running your own successful business, probably most of us here dream of being our own business. Back in university I tried to come up with some ideas among my friends to start our own business. Unfortunately we didn't find the right idea we could agree on and nothing happened. By now I kind of accepted that I will never be my own boss and have to stick in employment the rest of my life. Which is also not a bad thing because it gives more security and less stress to worry about. So far I have always worked in the private sector and never really thought about working in the government sector. In my country the wages are much higher when working for a corporation than the government. It's better to find a job for ourselves than relying on the government to provide a job for us. 
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April 18, 2023, 10:44:26 AM
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The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

That's what I said earlier in this thread, but then realized the OP meant literally government job, like being in law enforcement, educational, medical or other governmental institutions. There are people who see working in those institutions like the only way to survive, and OP here is not one of them. All of us, we need governmental institutions and we should be thankful to people working there. But we should know that in a free world there are other opportunities, and we are free to choose them if we want.

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April 18, 2023, 06:05:04 PM
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The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

Government facilities and jobs are needed to keep society going; even those government workers who are working under the civil and military services still have other businesses. Those government jobs are just there to make things easier for some privileged and lucky individuals who find their way into those offices. 
We need the government; they are primarily important to our survival as a nation. 

But job provision in this modern generation looks like a secondary objective to them; they don't take that too seriously again. 

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April 18, 2023, 10:42:14 PM
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The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

That's what I said earlier in this thread, but then realized the OP meant literally government job, like being in law enforcement, educational, medical or other governmental institutions. There are people who see working in those institutions like the only way to survive, and OP here is not one of them. All of us, we need governmental institutions and we should be thankful to people working there. But we should know that in a free world there are other opportunities, and we are free to choose them if we want.

So we can really say that it is important to have a government because they give strength or development to the country as you said. I can say that I am also one of those who were given a job by the government in the lower class but somehow managed to survive. Even though I have a low education, I try to raise myself as part of the government. You are right that we have the right to choose what we want to happen.


Government facilities and jobs are needed to keep society going; even those government workers who are working under the civil and military services still have other businesses. Those government jobs are just there to make things easier for some privileged and lucky individuals who find their way into those offices.
We need the government; they are primarily important to our survival as a nation.

But job provision in this modern generation looks like a secondary objective to them; they don't take that too seriously again.

That's why we should really take being part of the government seriously because it is the one that provides everything for us to survive. Even if there are people in the government who do not provide good services for their constituents, let's not rely on them and let's find a way for us to survive.

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April 18, 2023, 11:09:21 PM
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The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

Government facilities and jobs are needed to keep society going; even those government workers who are working under the civil and military services still have other businesses. Those government jobs are just there to make things easier for some privileged and lucky individuals who find their way into those offices. 
We need the government; they are primarily important to our survival as a nation. 

But job provision in this modern generation looks like a secondary objective to them; they don't take that too seriously again. 
It is one of the key functions of government on which providing on things which would really be needing by the society but we know that there's no such thing about unlimited positions or vacant jobs that could be offered into those jobless citizens on their vicinity + having the tough competition in between to those positions then it wont really be a guarantee that anyone could really be able to get their job.This is why
as an individual then you should really know on how to handle up yourself and be able to find or sustain yourself on these conditions.You cant always rely on whats been provided since not
all would really be entitled on getting one.This is why move on your own and find other ways as long you could make yourself benefit.

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April 19, 2023, 07:03:38 PM
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It is true that relying solely on government jobs for employment opportunities can be limiting, as governments may not always be able to provide jobs for everyone. One thing to know, however, is that not everyone has the resources, skills, or education to start their own business. In addition, government jobs provide stability and benefits that may not be available in the private sector.

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April 19, 2023, 07:21:25 PM
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It is true that relying solely on government jobs for employment opportunities can be limiting, as governments may not always be able to provide jobs for everyone. One thing to know, however, is that not everyone has the resources, skills, or education to start their own business. In addition, government jobs provide stability and benefits that may not be available in the private sector.

There is no stability in the level of income from private jobs, but private jobs can sometimes provide a better income than jobs in government agencies where the amount of salary is very measurable. I agree with some of the points you said that not everyone has the ability to start their own business, but that doesn't mean they can't do it using a number of methods that might be slightly different from what they're used to.

Those who do not have the resources, skills, or education to start their own business can use other means such as working with several people who have experience in a particular business field. Or they try to apply for a job at a private company to gain experience while gathering capital through the salary they receive every month, meaning they still have a way to start even though they have to go through a struggle that may be very tiring.

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April 22, 2023, 04:59:41 AM
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The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

Government facilities and jobs are needed to keep society going; even those government workers who are working under the civil and military services still have other businesses. Those government jobs are just there to make things easier for some privileged and lucky individuals who find their way into those offices. 
We need the government; they are primarily important to our survival as a nation. 

But job provision in this modern generation looks like a secondary objective to them; they don't take that too seriously again. 
It is one of the key functions of government on which providing on things which would really be needing by the society but we know that there's no such thing about unlimited positions or vacant jobs that could be offered into those jobless citizens on their vicinity + having the tough competition in between to those positions then it wont really be a guarantee that anyone could really be able to get their job.This is why
as an individual then you should really know on how to handle up yourself and be able to find or sustain yourself on these conditions.You cant always rely on whats been provided since not
all would really be entitled on getting one.This is why move on your own and find other ways as long you could make yourself benefit.
Employment powers the government sector, and the government provides and receives employment from investors. It is true that we need our own efforts so we must act and not give up on any of our plans to be a part of the development of our constituency.

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April 22, 2023, 05:30:57 AM
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The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

This is absolutely true, no country can exist without a government. Many people always pretend that they can live without the government, which is foolish thinking when their own safety is being guaranteed by the government. They cannot do business and have a peaceful life without theft, murder, and robbery without government protection.
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Sole proprietorship to me is far better than government jobs. The only advantage government jobs has is the pension that comes after all the active years in service which can also be made available through private pension schemes. Most people wait for government jobs because they lack the creativity to engage in personal investments.

All governments work with budget and estimates and no matter how hard they try to create new jobs they will never be enough for the masses and also some persons will as well choose to secure them for their descendants. It is rather safer to independent even if working for the government after graduation might isn't a bad idea yet a back up plan is always advised
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April 22, 2023, 08:48:34 PM
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The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

This is absolutely true, no country can exist without a government. Many people always pretend that they can live without the government, which is foolish thinking when their own safety is being guaranteed by the government. They cannot do business and have a peaceful life without theft, murder, and robbery without government protection.
That's why, everything has no destiny as long as there is no government. You are right that when there is no government there will be more exploitative businessmen and criminals who will make the country more difficult.The government and the workers (jobs, businesses) are in a cycle because they both benefit from each other.

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April 24, 2023, 08:58:09 AM
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It is true that relying solely on government jobs for employment opportunities can be limiting, as governments may not always be able to provide jobs for everyone. One thing to know, however, is that not everyone has the resources, skills, or education to start their own business. In addition, government jobs provide stability and benefits that may not be available in the private sector.

I think it's not about starting your own business, for which, indeed, you need a lot of money and knowledge to be successful. You are right that government jobs provide stability and benefits that may not be available in the private sector, but normally wages are much lower there than in some private firms, so, especially when you are young, it's worth trying to work in a firm that pays a lot right now, although there's no guarantee that it will be like that for a long time.

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April 24, 2023, 09:56:18 AM
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The government is very important to everyone because it can provide jobs to every person under its jurisdiction. They also implement laws that will give importance to every worker. Without government the country will not have jobs and their development will be weakened without it.

This is absolutely true, no country can exist without a government. Many people always pretend that they can live without the government, which is foolish thinking when their own safety is being guaranteed by the government. They cannot do business and have a peaceful life without theft, murder, and robbery without government protection.
That's why, everything has no destiny as long as there is no government. You are right that when there is no government there will be more exploitative businessmen and criminals who will make the country more difficult.The government and the workers (jobs, businesses) are in a cycle because they both benefit from each other.


Just imagine if there are no government, who will fund and build roads? Who will support us when there are typoons or other catastrophic events and many more. Even though we are sometimes criticising our government they also big roles in our world or in our place but again nobody is perfect that is why we criticize them but for sure it is in our own good only if the decision was made from not corrupt people
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