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May 09, 2023, 06:52:16 AM
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Even the strategies and individual behaviors are seasonal along with the market as they need to be changed when the market moves from one place to another. One cannot use the same strategy when the market isn't moving the same way all the time, and there needs to be tweaks in a strategy or a process that one uses towards the market.

Your success depends on how you change your process and adapt new strategies and methods that best suite the changing market conditions from every now and then, if you can keep up, you will be good, if not, you will probably lose momentum.
That is the reason why we have indicators and analysis. If you do TA very well then you will know where the market is moving, or at least where it should be moving. Sometimes it is hyped, sometimes it is gloomy, sometimes it's bear, sometimes it's bull. You can't know what will happen the market beforehand easily and you can't just use the same strategy for each market.

It means that you need to do your TA, and depending on the result you need to use that, you can't just have one strategy for all, you need to have one for each, and that is how you are going to make a difference. I personally believe that there is nothing wrong with the current system of investing according your own analysis, but you need to learn how to do that carefully, otherwise it is not going to end up being anything easy.

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May 09, 2023, 10:07:46 AM
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I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.
because of that we have to be smart in looking for opportunities when to buy and when to make a profit by selling it. don't fight crypto flows, because all of that will go according to the existing trends and seasons. It's better to be really thorough and make consistent income patiently, than to be greedy in trading here.

All markets are seasonal, ups and downs happen in all markets, but what's special about the crypto market is that volatility and power are at the highest levels. Nothing compares with crypto and some incredible spikes that happened (both ways) in so short period of time.

Well, we have to be smart, opportunities are everywhere, and there's something for everyone. Markets are seasonal, and there are many risks, but I think that we have good reasons to believe that the crypto market will continue to grow. So people should get more into crypto, if they think they can make some good analysis and catch some changes it can be profitable for them, and if not even stacking sats is a good investment for the future.

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May 12, 2023, 10:08:37 AM
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All markets are seasonal, ups and downs happen in all markets, but what's special about the crypto market is that volatility and power are at the highest levels. Nothing compares with crypto and some incredible spikes that happened (both ways) in so short period of time.
Market is volatile, ups and downs and you must survive in a bear market to enjoy a bull market. If you can not survive through a bear market, a bull market later does not mean anything for you.

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Well, we have to be smart, opportunities are everywhere, and there's something for everyone. Markets are seasonal, and there are many risks, but I think that we have good reasons to believe that the crypto market will continue to grow.
Market continues to grow and will give us more chances but only if we have capital to invest. Therefore protecting our capital is most important task for our future. If we have capital, we can have chance. If we lose our capital, we will not be able to take any chance in future to get richer.

Your success depends on how you change your process and adapt new strategies and methods that best suite the changing market conditions from every now and then, if you can keep up, you will be good, if not, you will probably lose momentum.
Only if we don't lose all capital with past mistakes. We only can change our strategies if we have capital (don't lose it all). If we lose it all, we will have to work to have new capital, make a loan (that we should not do) but it will take time and require us to save money from other things in life.

Don't think that we will always have jobs to work and receive salary. We invest into something to increase our capital, not to lose it and return to work and get money to pay for food, water, electricity.

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May 12, 2023, 12:05:20 PM
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Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain,  and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.
Yeah market is up and down, pump and dump, rise and fall, it is completely unstable, that is why we can earn and sometimes we will loss it is seasonal that is why the profit is also seasonal, but people still trade because sometimes trading is surprising we can also earn big profit depending on our luck.


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May 12, 2023, 01:52:07 PM
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Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain,  and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.
Yeah market is up and down, pump and dump, rise and fall, it is completely unstable, that is why we can earn and sometimes we will loss it is seasonal that is why the profit is also seasonal, but people still trade because sometimes trading is surprising we can also earn big profit depending on our luck.
and the hard thing to deal with is accepting defeat during a market season that is not in accordance with our dreams, because being able to accept defeat will minimize the risk of greater losses, because most people trade short term, but in the end they trade long term because of floating minus . What needs to be remembered is that there are still many opportunities to make transactions in the future, so don't sacrifice capital for just one transaction that doesn't fit

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May 12, 2023, 03:41:01 PM
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Yeah market is up and down, pump and dump, rise and fall, it is completely unstable, that is why we can earn and sometimes we will loss it is seasonal that is why the profit is also seasonal, but people still trade because sometimes trading is surprising we can also earn big profit depending on our luck.
Trading cryptocurrency with a solid technique with the objective to accumulate additional profits in the market is a risk, consideringeverything to be traded with caution. The market is volatile, and no one knows what will happen next. Profiting in the market is made simple by the strategy we adopted. We have the pump and dump season, which is different for altcoins and memecoins. The best period to enter the market is during the bear season, when most projects are down and bagged more than enough, since when the market is pumping, massive gains will be generated.

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May 12, 2023, 07:02:09 PM
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Maybe the only traders that have consistent earnings are those that spend time conducting paid seminars, tutorials, and other services they can do to earn money instead of spending time studying, and trading in order to milk the market. Cheesy That is why I quit many times already. But I will be trading again probably next year and the year 2025 because they are possibly bullish years if we are to base it on bitcoin and crypto cycles. But I am far from being called a trading expert.

Trading strategies won't work all the time too mate. Long-time traders always adjust their strategies to what will work for them.  

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May 26, 2023, 04:19:26 AM
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It's hard to even call it a season. The market is rather periodic. Moreover, periods can change so quickly that it is rather difficult to keep track of this.

I would slightly disagree with your opinion that you can compare it to the season because if you know the bear market has started since the end of 2021 and the market is still bear till May 2023.We can say that this is the bear season and this is the season of buying, and it has taken a long time for bull season to turn into bear season. Similarly, when the bull season comes and the bear season ends, it also takes a long time.

So I think you can easily keep track of changing periods. Market seasons give you the opportunity to know where you should enter and where you should exit.

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It's normal for a trader to experience losses because no one can predict the market and even profitable traders agree that. But there are many traders who win a lot in a bullish market rather bearish. Here in crypto, if the market is bullish you can possibly earn multiple of your capital and can be up to 50x or 100x, it happened in year 2021. A lot of traders even newbie traders are getting rich because most of their strat are working since the market direction was always going up. But when bearish came up they disappear.
Aside from that, I only base on my analysis in the chart, I won't say Bitcoin is seasonal.

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It's normal for a trader to experience losses because no one can predict the market and even profitable traders agree that. But there are many traders who win a lot in a bullish market rather bearish. Here in crypto, if the market is bullish you can possibly earn multiple of your capital and can be up to 50x or 100x, it happened in year 2021. A lot of traders even newbie traders are getting rich because most of their strat are working since the market direction was always going up. But when bearish came up they disappear.
Aside from that, I only base on my analysis in the chart, I won't say Bitcoin is seasonal.


The crypto market has historically shown some seasonal patterns, although it is important to note that these patterns are not guaranteed to repeat in the future. Several factors can influence the behavior of the crypto market, including investor sentiment, market trends, and regulatory changes. Additionally, some peoples argue that there are seasonal patterns based on investor behavior and market sentiment.  The behavior of the cryptocurrencies market is influenced by a variety of factors beyond seasonal trends, including demand and supply disparities and the market's interest in the product.

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May 26, 2023, 09:32:21 AM
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It's normal for a trader to experience losses because no one can predict the market and even profitable traders agree that. But there are many traders who win a lot in a bullish market rather bearish. Here in crypto, if the market is bullish you can possibly earn multiple of your capital and can be up to 50x or 100x, it happened in year 2021. A lot of traders even newbie traders are getting rich because most of their strat are working since the market direction was always going up. But when bearish came up they disappear.
Aside from that, I only base on my analysis in the chart, I won't say Bitcoin is seasonal.
Well, it is easy to look like a genius when the market is doing nothing but to go up, during those moments everyone seems to be obtaining profits, however as we know such a state cannot be maintained for long and at some point a crash follows, it is at those moments when you can see who is really good and who was just being carried away by the bull market, and when all is said and done you can see the majority of the traders on the market were never as good as they thought they were.
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May 26, 2023, 11:21:33 AM
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It's normal for a trader to experience losses because no one can predict the market and even profitable traders agree that. But there are many traders who win a lot in a bullish market rather bearish. Here in crypto, if the market is bullish you can possibly earn multiple of your capital and can be up to 50x or 100x, it happened in year 2021. A lot of traders even newbie traders are getting rich because most of their strat are working since the market direction was always going up. But when bearish came up they disappear.
Aside from that, I only base on my analysis in the chart, I won't say Bitcoin is seasonal.
Well, it is easy to look like a genius when the market is doing nothing but to go up, during those moments everyone seems to be obtaining profits, however as we know such a state cannot be maintained for long and at some point a crash follows, it is at those moments when you can see who is really good and who was just being carried away by the bull market, and when all is said and done you can see the majority of the traders on the market were never as good as they thought they were.
Such is the reality that when the market is rising there will be no chaos between the traders,
and when the market is crashing, we can see which traders really have a lot of experience and which ones don't.

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May 26, 2023, 11:39:25 AM
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It's normal for a trader to experience losses because no one can predict the market and even profitable traders agree that. But there are many traders who win a lot in a bullish market rather bearish. Here in crypto, if the market is bullish you can possibly earn multiple of your capital and can be up to 50x or 100x, it happened in year 2021. A lot of traders even newbie traders are getting rich because most of their strat are working since the market direction was always going up. But when bearish came up they disappear.
Aside from that, I only base on my analysis in the chart, I won't say Bitcoin is seasonal.
No matter how good a trader is, even in a bull market, making x50 or x100 in one season is a very big profit. Perhaps some people manage to do this, and it is also not so easy to do when it comes to a large trading deposit.

If you start with a small amount, then it is quite possible that you will allow yourself more risky operations with it and this will bring more profit, but if you start with significant capital, then you will be much more careful with it, and this of course can bring profit, but not like you wrote. For a large capital, even x5-x10 will be considered a very good profit.
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The crypto market has historically shown some seasonal patterns, although it is important to note that these patterns are not guaranteed to repeat in the future. Several factors can influence the behavior of the crypto market, including investor sentiment, market trends, and regulatory changes. Additionally, some peoples argue that there are seasonal patterns based on investor behavior and market sentiment.  The behavior of the cryptocurrencies market is influenced by a variety of factors beyond seasonal trends, including demand and supply disparities and the market's interest in the product.

I don't think the patterns will stop and if it wants to stop, it won't be happening now because we'll always have the bear and bull market which happens in between every four years cycle. Each cycle would have a different percentage return and that's where I think there'll be some difference. For example, the last bull market we had didn't have much gained generally compared to the bull market of 2017.

We didn't see the altcoins season we expected like the 2017 bull market that the altcoins season came and difference tokens in the market went pumping by gaining big from the flow of cash into the market. We had some altcoins pump in this bull market but it wasn't like 2017.

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I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.
because of that we have to be smart in looking for opportunities when to buy and when to make a profit by selling it. don't fight crypto flows, because all of that will go according to the existing trends and seasons. It's better to be really thorough and make consistent income patiently, than to be greedy in trading here.
When it comes to expert traders, I think there are, because basically people will get more skilled if they continue to explore their skills in their field, including trading, people who have a lot of experience from market waves will definitely become experts in their trading.
Experts don't mean it's impossible to lose and Experts don't mean you always win, it's just that experts usually lose less compared to the wins they get, because they can take advantage of the season and its opportunities in the market.
attention must be paid to thoroughness and sustainable income everyone also wants it but even if an expert benefits from trading in the world of crypto or stocks and or something else I think it's impossible.

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May 28, 2023, 12:59:39 PM
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It's normal for a trader to experience losses because no one can predict the market and even profitable traders agree that. But there are many traders who win a lot in a bullish market rather bearish. Here in crypto, if the market is bullish you can possibly earn multiple of your capital and can be up to 50x or 100x, it happened in year 2021. A lot of traders even newbie traders are getting rich because most of their strat are working since the market direction was always going up. But when bearish came up they disappear.
Aside from that, I only base on my analysis in the chart, I won't say Bitcoin is seasonal.
In the sense that it has bearish and bullish trends that occur at different times in different years, we can call Bitcoin seasonal. Maybe it doesn't have a fixed season when it goes up or goes down, but since it is volatile and it is always likely to go down when it's up and go up when it's down, we can clearly say that the price of Bitcoin is seasonal.

It obviously is normal to incur losses when you are trading or doing any kind of business, nothing can provide you with constant profits and you will surely have to face some hard times during the course of whatever you are doing.

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"Seasonal" is probably a decent term to describe it, but it's simply the fact that certain/individual strategies won't work consistently forever/all the time. It's the same both with technical analysis and fundamental analysis. Adaptation and reflexivity is the key.

Yes market isn’t always the same or predictable. If you keep on following the same strategies and place trades then definitely no one can save you from getting losses. Moreover according to me no strategy works the second time. So yes if you love your hard earned money then you need to come up with new and innovative ideas. The most important factor in trading is that, trade with the market. Become adaptive to the market and trade in limit. That’s how you can save money and probably earn some profits.

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It's normal for a trader to experience losses because no one can predict the market and even profitable traders agree that. But there are many traders who win a lot in a bullish market rather bearish. Here in crypto, if the market is bullish you can possibly earn multiple of your capital and can be up to 50x or 100x, it happened in year 2021. A lot of traders even newbie traders are getting rich because most of their strat are working since the market direction was always going up. But when bearish came up they disappear.
Aside from that, I only base on my analysis in the chart, I won't say Bitcoin is seasonal.
In the sense that it has bearish and bullish trends that occur at different times in different years, we can call Bitcoin seasonal. Maybe it doesn't have a fixed season when it goes up or goes down, but since it is volatile and it is always likely to go down when it's up and go up when it's down, we can clearly say that the price of Bitcoin is seasonal.

It obviously is normal to incur losses when you are trading or doing any kind of business, nothing can provide you with constant profits and you will surely have to face some hard times during the course of whatever you are doing.
what happens to Bitcoin is unpredictable. Even if it's called bear season or bull season, we can only make trading predictions and investment plans based on what's happening in the market.
simply those who invest in the market will buy when the market is in bear season. and sell it during the bull season. but that is not a guarantee someone will benefit. because seasonal periods as you said can never be predicted.



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I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.
That's how trading works, even how expert you are or how experienced you are in trading, you can't always be profitable or always a 100% guaranteed winner.
That's why there are a lot of personalities or influencers on the different social media that are only showing their winners to get the attention of some people.

Overall, you must always think long term and how you preserve your capital.

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When it comes to expert traders, I think there are, because basically people will get more skilled if they continue to explore their skills in their field, including trading, people who have a lot of experience from market waves will definitely become experts in their trading.
Experts don't mean it's impossible to lose and Experts don't mean you always win, it's just that experts usually lose less compared to the wins they get, because they can take advantage of the season and its opportunities in the market.
attention must be paid to thoroughness and sustainable income everyone also wants it but even if an expert benefits from trading in the world of crypto or stocks and or something else I think it's impossible.
I think experts become experts by studying and experience. If you study how to be a great trader and if you keep on trading, then you are going to end up with something good eventually, there is no other way around it, that's how people become rich.

However, if you want to find a quick way to get rich, no matter how much time you spend, you will not become rich because that's not how it works. It should be remembered that bitcoin is volatile and there are so many ways to make money if you are a trader, but if you want to do it well then you need to spend some time on it if you want to make some money. I understand that there are a lot of people who will, but I am worried about all the people who won't be understanding this concept and just think bitcoin is a way to get rich quick.

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