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April 17, 2023, 09:42:33 PM
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I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.
And base on my experience, I would say yes, it was seasonal to the point that we usually make a good profit when the price goes up. However, I don't think we incur losses if we are just about to hold them and then wait for the recovery. Unfortunately, because most of us traders are impatient and would like to put everything on our hands, we become desperate and then make a wrong decision.
Yes, there is no perfect trader and we all experience losses, that is the truth. But apart from that, we learn somehow that trading is not all about profit as we surely lose sometimes because of our decisions. 

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April 17, 2023, 09:50:43 PM
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There’s always a season to harvest and a season to plant more, and with crypto it can also possible to happen. When you tend to wait for a cheaper market then that could be your season to plant more, meaning its bear market and when the market pumps, that’s the time to harvest. Just like farming, you always have to plant in order for you to get some, cryptomarket is just like that it will not always an up trend, and the season to plant will always come in time.
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April 18, 2023, 02:30:51 AM
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There’s always a season to harvest and a season to plant more, and with crypto it can also possible to happen.
Market has bull and bear times and its capital flow will be switched around from Bitcoin to altcoins and stable coins. You will not have Bitcoin season and altcoin season at the same time. Bitcoin season first and capital will switch to altcoin to trigger altcoin seasons.

Altcoin season index shows recently we are in a Bitcoin season. There is no altcoin season yet!

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When you tend to wait for a cheaper market then that could be your season to plant more, meaning its bear market and when the market pumps, that’s the time to harvest. Just like farming, you always have to plant in order for you to get some, cryptomarket is just like that it will not always an up trend, and the season to plant will always come in time.
Bull or bear market, you can have profit if you have enough patience to wait long enough and get good entries.
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April 18, 2023, 03:27:18 AM
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Bear and Bull market is seasonal Usually after Bull market or when the price reached All time High there is big correction or most people in crypto here called "Crypto Winter". and The bull market is usually only a year.

But if you are professional trader no matter what happen to market you can still "Dance on the Market" meaning you can still made a profit when Bull or Bear market is happening

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April 18, 2023, 04:14:47 AM
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The smart trader is the one who can make gains in the market cycles. No matter how negative the market is, he can make profits. It is true that those profits will be difficult and few, but he can achieve them.
Do not be sad and develop yourself on how to find ways to make profits when the market is bad and everyone believes that there is no way to generate profits and then it will be easy for you to make profits in the normal situation and when the market is high.

So, for a professional trader, the market is not seasonal

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April 18, 2023, 04:23:04 AM
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The smart trader is the one who can make gains in the market cycles. No matter how negative the market is, he can make profits. It is true that those profits will be difficult and few, but he can achieve them.
Do not be sad and develop yourself on how to find ways to make profits when the market is bad and everyone believes that there is no way to generate profits and then it will be easy for you to make profits in the normal situation and when the market is high.

So, for a professional trader, the market is not seasonal
Well, I believe that his losses now will set as a foundation for him in the future of his own trading strategies along with constant learning and gaining more experience will make him a seasoned trader. To be honest, I don't really rely on such market cycles and strategies since individually you can get news on the market as long as you will spend time on the web, and I do always keep in my mind that my gains are somebody else's loss and vice versa. In addition to that, it doesn't mean my strategy is effective, it will always be effective to you or anybody and even me in the future.

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April 18, 2023, 05:44:18 AM
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The smart trader is the one who can make gains in the market cycles. No matter how negative the market is, he can make profits. It is true that those profits will be difficult and few, but he can achieve them.
Pro traders achieve it in any market because they have enough discipline, patience and their calculations are good enough as well. From good calculations, with good patience and discipline, they can wait till right time to enter, open a position and exit it to take profit or if market goes bad, they exit their position to protect capital.

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So, for a professional trader, the market is not seasonal
Market is seasonal and no one can deny it but pro traders don't mind about seasonal trait. They only need to see market waves and find good entries to join the game.

To be honest, I don't really rely on such market cycles and strategies since individually you can get news on the market as long as you will spend time on the web, and I do always keep in my mind that my gains are somebody else's loss and vice versa. In addition to that, it doesn't mean my strategy is effective, it will always be effective to you or anybody and even me in the future.
In a bull market, you can lose big too so market cycles can not help everyone to avoid loss and gain profit. As a zero-sum game, in any market (bull or bear), there are winners and losers to make the sum unchanged.

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April 18, 2023, 07:10:27 PM
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Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain,  and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.
This is why it is not everyone day to trade, hence people sometimes call it bull and bear market. You are not supposed to make consistent profit in trading even though many people have done that but still doing it consistently is just really hard for majority of people. If you are doing DCA as your strategy then you wouldn't bother with that kind up and down because you can buy it anytime you want.

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April 18, 2023, 08:30:31 PM
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Philosophically, life is full of seasons – there's time for everything; a time to be born and a time to die. There's also a place for ups and downs in life for everyone. These turn of events must be experienced in one's life, whether we like it not.


The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week.
No trader would say at any point in their trading experience they didn't share this mindset. We all did. At times one would even think there was a kind of conspiracy with a monitoring evil glued to one's device to foretell one's activities. However, as we wised up on the journey we've come to understand that there's nothing of such.

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I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.
That's the beauty of trading. It keeps everyone on their toes. No one can beat their chest and say they've outlived losses.

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If I was not wrong,your trade profit may start from March 15 of last month.Because it’s due to the end of March and beginning of the first quarter.Mostly the price of bitcoin will have good signs during the month of March to May.So if you want to concentrate on the trading,you can earn some good profit during this months.It’s essential to keep track of bitcoin price daily to find the correct price to invest in bitcoin.Once you find the correct price of bitcoin,you can inverse in bitcoin and wait till the market react to the price to the positive effect.Then cash out your money from bitcoin with some profit.
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The market thus moves at its own pace, Sometimes there will be profit and sometimes there will be loss, this is how trading happens. There is no guarantee that profits will always be made here. And one person's loss becomes another person's gain and this is how the market is moving at its own pace. In other words, yes, the market is seasonal and if you can maintain those seasonal times, then you are a gainer.


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April 19, 2023, 07:56:52 AM
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The market thus moves at its own pace, Sometimes there will be profit and sometimes there will be loss, this is how trading happens. There is no guarantee that profits will always be made here. And one person's loss becomes another person's gain and this is how the market is moving at its own pace. In other words, yes, the market is seasonal and if you can maintain those seasonal times, then you are a gainer.
You have rightly said that in the market, one person's gain is another's loss, thus the market moves at its own pace.  If the market was seasonal then everyone would have waited for a particular season. But because the market is not seasonal, investments are made in the market at all times of the year.  Profit and loss it completely depends on the market and it is difficult to understand in which direction the market will take the tran. However, if you do enough research on the market and have enough knowledge about the market, you can predict which direction the market may turn.

I would never say that the market is seasonal. If the market had a specific season then no one would have suffered by investing. Everyone used to invest in a certain season and everyone sold his investment before the end of a certain season.

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April 20, 2023, 05:30:29 PM
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The market thus moves at its own pace, Sometimes there will be profit and sometimes there will be loss, this is how trading happens. There is no guarantee that profits will always be made here. And one person's loss becomes another person's gain and this is how the market is moving at its own pace. In other words, yes, the market is seasonal and if you can maintain those seasonal times, then you are a gainer.
If we are talking about market being seasonal,We need to know the certain times that it is good to trade,we need to know when to invest and when not to invest,the market is about giving and taking,you invest at a particular time,and you also take your profit when when you are supposed to.There are sometimes when the market is very rough,and Sometimes when the market is smooth,and that time is the perfect time to trade your coin.
Most traders have not calm down to critically look at when the market is best to make investment,and that is one of the reasons why they lose money,if you are a trader,you must be a careful trader,someone who analysis,exermines,and studies up and down movement in the price of coins before investing.
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April 30, 2023, 03:19:13 PM
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I would never say that the market is seasonal, I do know that at one point the market can be linear and it is understandable, but not by much, volatility is the ingredient that will always make a difference in this market and that is what the market does. Unlike forex, the stock market, everything is necessary, only in the bitcoin market the volume is not consolidated, which makes the general analysis very Unstable, while in the rest the volume is consolidated, and the analyzes they tend to be more effective and accurate.

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April 30, 2023, 03:26:07 PM
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Last month my trade was great, I make some dooh but this month is cashloss experiment. I don't really understand the mystical magic behind the technological process of this trading as if someone or something is regulating the system. The system dash you small cash this week and collect big cash from you next week. Is not sweet to bear big loss than gain,  and this things happens anytime the market looks like bitcoin wants to boom.

I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

If it is just about losing, as a trader, you shall not stretch it more out. It is a normal part of the game. A loss is necessary for the probability of your winning system to pan out.
It is also not just about the market. The market does its own thing. Your main focus should be on how you are going to act as opposed to how the market is moving.

You can have the direction right but still not profitable. See? That's a big problem. Success in trading is about 3 things. How you perceive the market. What is your strategy in line with how you perceive the market, and How are you behaving with your strategy to profit from the market?

Everything is seasonal. Whether it is price delivery or your personal account PnL and drawdowns. Whatever it is, just know that it is momentary. Focus on the process.

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May 01, 2023, 08:21:32 AM
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I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.

I am agree with you that there is not a single expert which always get maximum returns but while trading they will face defeat and loss at some point because from this loss they get experience and if they did not loss money in past then they will hardly cope with harsh situations in future.

You are right that everyone gets success and also they faces failure but it is not always that one time you will successful and other time failure but regular success can also achieve. A person can get rid of regular loss through investment for lengthy period of time because in longer time you will have no worries about the lower price because you will keep holding your coin until it gives you maximum return.

  Yes we can say that market is seasonal because seasons changes and in the same way the price changes regularly, as a single season does not remain always so same is the market where it doesn't remains in one position.
There are professionals or experts in trading but it does not mean that they are immune to losses. The only reason why they are termed like that is because they have gained lots of experience and they are now familiar on different things here in the trading.

This makes their winning rate higher than the average users and they can now mentor the newbies in the scene. Investment has its own risk. You only think it's easy but it was actually hard. One may not stick on his plan and that is the time they will experience a loss. Season does change but what is its connection to the market? However crypto market has their own seasons too. That is the bull and the bear.
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May 01, 2023, 09:24:28 AM
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There are professionals or experts in trading but it does not mean that they are immune to losses. The only reason why they are termed like that is because they have gained lots of experience and they are now familiar on different things here in the trading.

This makes their winning rate higher than the average users and they can now mentor the newbies in the scene. Investment has its own risk. You only think it's easy but it was actually hard. One may not stick on his plan and that is the time they will experience a loss.
Many people trade daily but they over trade and they are always in the market. They usually don't exit the market and take a rest to have time to refresh their minds and have enough time as well as neutral mind to think of the market by analyzinita withouta personal emotion because of their existing positions which can be in profit or loss.

Most of traders are failed traders in the market and having a good win rate does not mean you will have net profit. If you are bad in capital management, one loss can turn your positive net profit to a negative one. Like you start with $100, win 10 trades and make your trading capital to $300. But if you use all $300 for your 11th trade and lose it big, yoiuu might end it with even less than $100 that is your initial trading capital.

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Season does change but what is its connection to the market? However crypto market has their own seasons too. That is the bull and the bear.
Professional traders do their works when market is dynamic with waves, they don't mind that it is a bull or bear market. If they see waves, they will trade but if they don't see wave, they stay inactively.

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May 02, 2023, 06:21:30 AM
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Many people trade daily but they over trade and they are always in the market. They usually don't exit the market and take a rest to have time to refresh their minds and have enough time as well as neutral mind to think of the market by analyzinita withouta personal emotion because of their existing positions which can be in profit or loss.

Most of traders are failed traders in the market and having a good win rate does not mean you will have net profit. If you are bad in capital management, one loss can turn your positive net profit to a negative one. Like you start with $100, win 10 trades and make your trading capital to $300. But if you use all $300 for your 11th trade and lose it big, yoiuu might end it with even less than $100 that is your initial trading capital.
There are too many trades that loses and only a few that does win, because only a few did what they should and most did not studied it at all. Bear does matter a bit, surely the leverage and futures made it possible that even bear is profitable, but it does matter, when it is bull it is easier to make a profit whereas when it is bear it is a bit harder because market is not moving with that kind of hype. If nothing else, we could talk about the volume and that matters a lot for sure.

This is why I believe that we should not be focusing on bear and hope for a bull soon. Even professional traders who make millions of dollars in profits would rather have a great bull run, like see the price go above ATH, they will benefit from that too.

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May 03, 2023, 03:02:54 PM
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If it is just about losing, as a trader, you shall not stretch it more out. It is a normal part of the game. A loss is necessary for the probability of your winning system to pan out.
It is also not just about the market. The market does its own thing. Your main focus should be on how you are going to act as opposed to how the market is moving.

You can have the direction right but still not profitable. See? That's a big problem. Success in trading is about 3 things. How you perceive the market. What is your strategy in line with how you perceive the market, and How are you behaving with your strategy to profit from the market?

Everything is seasonal. Whether it is price delivery or your personal account PnL and drawdowns. Whatever it is, just know that it is momentary. Focus on the process.
Even the strategies and individual behaviors are seasonal along with the market as they need to be changed when the market moves from one place to another. One cannot use the same strategy when the market isn't moving the same way all the time, and there needs to be tweaks in a strategy or a process that one uses towards the market.

Your success depends on how you change your process and adapt new strategies and methods that best suite the changing market conditions from every now and then, if you can keep up, you will be good, if not, you will probably lose momentum.

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May 03, 2023, 03:42:41 PM
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I see that there is no complete expert trader, at a point everyone experience loss both robots. That's means the market is kind of seasonal, it can favor you today and hit you tomorrow.
because of that we have to be smart in looking for opportunities when to buy and when to make a profit by selling it. don't fight crypto flows, because all of that will go according to the existing trends and seasons. It's better to be really thorough and make consistent income patiently, than to be greedy in trading here.

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