cashout money

[goldkingcoiner]

hello is it possible to cashout money  without being the owner  without having documents to proof you are the owner  and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used  was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

I think that is a very strange question to ask, especially after taking a look at your negative red reputation left by trustworthy members of the Bitcointalk community. One even accuses you of "selling personal ID documents of other people". Why exactly do you want to cash out money without being the owner of the documents you gave the (I assume) gambling casino? Is it because you faked your KYC and now are trying to withdraw without getting caught and your money confiscated?

This thread is a red flag.

[Beparanf]

hello is it possible to cashout money  without being the owner  without having documents to proof you are the owner  and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used  was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

 Why exactly do you want to cash out money without being the owner of the documents you gave the (I assume) gambling casino? Is it because you faked your KYC and now are trying to withdraw without getting caught and your money confiscated?

This thread is a red flag.

Probably he purchased someone account that already frozen and he wants to have a shot on recovering the funds by any means that community will suggest here. It's really odd to see a question like this because it only means that he is not the real owner of the account and he only has access on it through hck or purchased which are both red flag for acquiring account since it violates casino terms.

[uneng]

Due to KYC policy, someone should only sign up at a casino if they are able to provide personal documents to prove their identity. At least, you sign up at a casino aware that the possibility of being asked to provide such informations do exist and are likely to happen at some point. To rely on "luck" to cashout funds without provinding personal data or to use documents from other people (consequently commiting a crime of ideological falsehood) is never an alternative. OP, if you have involved in such activities, stop it now, it's never too late to change your behavior for the better...

[Fivestar4everMVP]

hello is it possible to cashout money  without being the owner  without having documents to proof you are the owner  and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used  was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

Well, I don't exactly know what type of account you are cashing the money from, but if it's an account on a casino site, there is possibly no way to withdraw money from a frozen account, except you contact customer care to have the account unfrozen..

And again, yes, it is actually possible to  withdraw from an account that is not yours as long as you have full access to the account, by full access, I mean access to the account and access to the email account associated with the account, this is because some casino do send one time password to email address associated with the account to verify that the person requesting withdrawal is actually the owner.
And again, this is if Google authentication is not enabled on the same account, and also depends On the amount you are withdrawing, if the amount is much, be rest assured you won't be able to withdraw without submitting kyc document.

[bitbollo]

what is the site @ps34? and exactly what is the "issue"?
pay attention because a frozen account... is frozen and there is a reason for this. and probably for restoring ... some info are required (and if you are not the original owner, it could be something trouble to unlock...)
plus, if a casino notice a new IP /location etc etc could requires some details about original owner...

[Casdinyard]

Some sites do not require KYC so you should be good to go provided that you played in a casino that doesn't require users to verify their identities, but the way you asked the wuestion is a little perplexing to me. You sound like a noob who just got a hold of sokeone else's account and now you're asking the internet on how to bypass KYC which sadly you can't if the casino is enforcing it. Not pointing any fingers but if my inference is correct I would really suggest yoi return the account to its previous owner lmao

[famososMuertos]

i did give them my documents but they saw  a mismatch in the name of the owner and me

so that didn't work    i'm not the owner of this account

It was not necessary for him to say it, it is understood in his first post, what I do not understand is how several users did not realize his farce, one of two; Either you sold your account and want to get it back or it was sold to you.

on the other hand in view of your trust (profile), I think it is enough evidence to let this topic die, until you resolve your "moral" situation in the forum.

Trust:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2751022

If you close this thread it would be a great help to prevent spam from spreading further in this innocuous thread.

[decodx]

decodx  so you love when people lose 527 $ is that what your saying here sir because if this is the case please confirm

Oh yes, absolutely. It's one of my favorite pastimes. I even have a special cheering section set up for when people like you lose money.

if this is the case then i'm sorry to say your a moron  and you  say yes to scammers    and thiefs because this is what happened

That's called poetic justice!  

blocked access to my funds and cashed it out for himself

i never done that so for you to accuse me of being this  is  incredible sir and shamefull to say the least  

Allow me to provide some examples.

• It seems you were caught red-handed selling other people's private documents:
  

  need to make accounts gambling or other sites ?
  have documents selfies  proof address  id back/front   collection good price   15 IDS
  contact me

• Here you asked someone from Poland to help you with a restricted / locked account:
  

  hello don't know if this is right place but i have a restricted account / locked   and someone needs  to connect to it  from poland    can someone help me   someone trusted  
  can pay a fee also  
  

• Here you asked for a no-collateral loan, and in exchange, you were offering personal documents, that may have been obtained illegally, to create fake accounts on online gambling platforms.
  

  can give docs so you can make gambling accounts and sell them further
  in return i would like to get this loan from you 500

So, yes. I stand by my words. You are a scumbag and a scammer. If you really lost $500 at this casino, you got exactly what you deserved.

[ps34]

this is the situation of today

this account that was sold by nemlig here on forum was from  2013    the real owner  (name i have in my record)  and also deposit/cashout  history in excel file so anyone that wants a look i can proof on paper what i'm saying (not that it matters)
i don't know what happened with the real owner    that created this account since 2013  but i know he verified his account then

so i bought access for this account through nemlig
i had 5 days access from 22 december until the 27 th of december 2021 however  when i already deposited 1000 € with my skrill  (personal)  on that account   nemlig blocked my access to my funds wich was 527 $  and a day later cashed it out  
DEBITADJUST #                               
12/28/2021 7:55:40 AM   Red   2784365858   USD   -526,92   USD   -526,92   -526,92   ADMIN      

(pokerstars account)

so now my money is gone  and  would like to know if there is a way to still get the money that has been cashed out   since the deposit happened with my personal skrill account

however why do i still bother to answer as everyone already has his  idea about me clear  about me being a scammer  

seems i can't do anything correct for some people here

on the matter of the account being frozen i don't know why this happened   as i only had 5 days of access to this account  (but when i contacted live chat they told me  crime financial department was investigating this account) so there is something really wrong with account that i bought access to

but if i see there are a bunch of skrill accounts on that account  (5) mine included  then it seems reasonable to think this account was used by multiple people and not only  myself and this real owner

also if someone thinks that he can still recover my lost money  they can always contact me by pm  i have more proof to send   like that excel file with all deposits/whitdrawals made on this account  

[FatFork]

so now my money is gone  and  would like to know if there is a way to still get the money that has been cashed out   since the deposit happened with my personal skrill account

Considering that you obtained access to the account unlawfully and violated the PokerStar General Terms, it is unlikely that you would be able to retrieve any cashed-out money, even if the deposit was made through your personal Skrill account. You can think of that money as compensation for your wrongful actions.

6. Account Requirements
6.1 To create and use an Account you must:
6.1.5 register the Account in your own name, on the basis of your own freely made choice, and solely for your own personal use, entertainment and benefit, not on behalf of or at the direction of anyone else; and

6.3 You must not sell or transfer your Account to any other person or acquire an Account from any other person. To do so would be a serious breach of the General Terms and therefore a Prohibited Event.

https://www.pokerstars.com/tos/

however why do i still bother to answer as everyone already has his  idea about me clear  about me being a scammer  

seems i can't do anything correct for some people here

You obviously don't have the brains to be a scammer. Have you ever considered earning money the honest way for a change?

[Fortify]

hello is it possible to cashout money  without being the owner  without having documents to proof you are the owner  and when the account is frozen?

only thing i have is that payment method that was used  was mine and the cashout would go towards that account

You seem to live in an alternative reality but back in the real world that money is effectively seized. You need to explain more background around why it has been restricted by a gambling site, because they can do this for a multitude of reasons, like if they think it is stolen, related to some previous illicit transaction, is such a large sum that they have to give a good explanation to their regulatory body, etc. It sounds like they just expect you to go through a Know Your Customer type transaction, which is becoming the standard these days and will soon be found at the vast majority of major cryptocurrency casinos and sportbooks. Why can you not provide such documentation, or you simply don't want to?

[crzy]

this is pokerstars and i don't have owners documents  to proof i'm the owner  and account is frozen

so i'm fucked  ?

You figure this out, your funds will still with them so you can have time to work with the documents needed. You can ask the site for more time to provide what is needed, wondering why you use an account that is not yours. KYC are more strict to those suspicious account and for sure your account tagged as suspicious.

[DoublerHunter]

this is pokerstars and i don't have owners documents  to proof i'm the owner  and account is frozen

so i'm fucked  ?

You figure this out, your funds will still with them so you can have time to work with the documents needed. You can ask the site for more time to provide what is needed, wondering why you use an account that is not yours. KYC are more strict to those suspicious account and for sure your account tagged as suspicious.

^That is a lesson to learn? yes of course.
Well, I hope that the OP will get his fund even though knowing him that it was a mistake.
It does seem suspicious that there were multiple Skrill accounts linked to it, including yours. It is possible that the account was being used for fraudulent activities by someone other than the original owner. In a case like this, buying an account with someone may face a problem like this in the future and OP did not think that possible outcome.

[Lanatsa]

this is pokerstars and i don't have owners documents  to proof i'm the owner  and account is frozen

so i'm fucked  ?

You figure this out, your funds will still with them so you can have time to work with the documents needed. You can ask the site for more time to provide what is needed, wondering why you use an account that is not yours. KYC are more strict to those suspicious account and for sure your account tagged as suspicious.

If the account isnt yours the for sure it is most likely you do buy that certain account or you have stolen and hacked it out for yourself or we dont know on whats actually behind those reasons because once you do

make an account then it cant be simply be passed up on anyone considering that you had passed out some documents which means that the account would be tagged up into yourself.If you do win big
and its not your account and if the company or platform do asked out for some verification or documentation then youre fucked up.

This is the cons on owning an account which isnt yours in the first place considering that creating one is really just that too easy.

[ps34]

this is pokerstars and i don't have owners documents  to proof i'm the owner  and account is frozen

so i'm fucked  ?

You figure this out, your funds will still with them so you can have time to work with the documents needed. You can ask the site for more time to provide what is needed, wondering why you use an account that is not yours. KYC are more strict to those suspicious account and for sure your account tagged as suspicious.

^That is a lesson to learn? yes of course.
Well, I hope that the OP will get his fund even though knowing him that it was a mistake.
It does seem suspicious that there were multiple Skrill accounts linked to it, including yours. It is possible that the account was being used for fraudulent activities by someone other than the original owner. In a case like this, buying an account with someone may face a problem like this in the future and OP did not think that possible outcome.

thanks this is an answer i can do something with !    

i think also that this is a very wrong account i have bought access to  shame that i have trusted nemlig  and offcourse myself for doing such a thing

i thought i was safe depositing my own money in this  and play  because it was a verified account so nothing could go wrong i was mistaken    
also didn't know that if you change emailaddress from  owner  wich i did   and change password that he could recover this account by changing email and password again   that seems easy  (or he has a telephone linked to it )  dunno how he recovered the account  
only reason  i want to still get my cashout is because for me this is no small change so that's why i want to try everything to maybe hopefully get my money back even though i know this chance is small at best

[Saisher]

i thought i was safe depositing my own money in this  and play  because it was a verified account so nothing could go wrong i was mistaken    
also didn't know that if you change emailaddress from  owner  wich i did   and change password that he could recover this account by changing email and password again   that seems easy  (or he has a telephone linked to it )  dunno how he recovered the account  
only reason  i want to still get my cashout is because for me this is no small change so that's why i want to try everything to maybe hopefully get my money back even though i know this chance is small at best

Buying an account is a mistake because its a violation of the terms of the casino you will be caught along the way because the casino is good at tracing changes of account, they may even ask you to login into one of the devices you've used in this specific time, changing the password and an email address is one sign that there is a change of ownership and the system will mark it for future reference.
This is a bad idea that is why I always recommend ignoring those casino account sellers because there are risk attach to it, anyway, this is a reference on why you should not buy a casino account, however good it may seem.

[ps34]

well you can't claim a pokerstars account as a casino account/site    it is mostly poker   

but i concur that buying an account is not smart move/stupid   i should have known better     
but i just wanted to play anonymous and so means playing under another name then my own   but it has indeed risks

[AmoreJaz]

well you can't claim a pokerstars account as a casino account/site    it is mostly poker  

but i concur that buying an account is not smart move/stupid   i should have known better    
but i just wanted to play anonymous and so means playing under another name then my own   but it has indeed risks

buying another account is not really a very smart thing to do. because when it comes to kyc, you will more then likely be banned or funds frozen by the site. that will be your expensive lesson if you have big money on them.
just look for other poker sites that you think you can play anonymously. but buying an account is not your future options anymore. you will likely end up losing your resources.

[noormcs5]

this is pokerstars and i don't have owners documents  to proof i'm the owner  and account is frozen

so i'm fucked  ?

How can you cash out from an account which is frozen ? This means that you cannot login into the account and initiate a withdrawal request.

i did give them my documents but they saw  a mismatch in the name of the owner and me

so that didn't work    i'm not the owner of this account

Things seems to be more complicated here and i can sense that there is a KYC problem too with your account.
Since you are not the owner, why would the site allow you have the withdrawal ?

i will clarify the  situation  i bought access to this pokerstars account by a user here on forum

Can you tell which user on this forum sold you that account ? Although it may not help you recover your account but at least that person may be exposed and other forum users may be saved if he tries to scam again to other people too.

[ps34]

nemlig sold me this ps account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2845813