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April 25, 2023, 09:43:43 PM
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Hi there guys,

Since I've seen what happened to Coinplay, my question was: Why we should play with minor gambling platform, and not use only gambling platform like Stake, CloudBet, fortunejack ecc. which ensure us good games, 100%

of safety in terms of withdrawal and provably fair (about games)? This question is also for the owners of gambling platform, maybe they can help to reply it.
If everyone plays on minor casinos, then who will play on the other ones? Any one that favoured you, you have to play there because we not there to place bet for fun but to win. When we come to fun we play it as a fun way but for now it is to win. So favourism is one of the tools to locate a casino to play. There are some things which the minor casinos do can't be found in those Casinos you mentioned above.
For the safety of a casino is one of the priority of the company but some casinos are careless on their security. If a casino want to know the details of a customer they have to ask the KYC at the beginning and not at the end when the person has won a big amount of money. That looks suspicious.

That's true, it's like a robin hood situation where you collect gamblers from mentioned trusted gambling platform to move from minor, it will just result the other platform to lose it's customers. But if its worth the hype and its game plus the security of your funds then it could be consider. There's a lot of minor gambling platform that are underrated but of course as users would stick to the most trusted one. It's important to have fun but losing your money from fraud and scam its much worse than losing it to gambling.

I totally get the concern about minor gambling platforms, especially after the whole Coinplay debacle. So trying out the underdog platforms may be a good option.

Who knows, maybe one of these minor casinos have something unique and fun to offer that we haven't seen before.

As for security, that's obviously a top priority, but some big casinos can be careless too. Asking KYC only after you've won big is sketchy as hell if you ask me.

Having fun is important, but let's also be smart and not fall for any scams. Stay safe and good luck out there!

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April 25, 2023, 11:44:11 PM
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Personally I'm only using platforms that have been around for some time, and of course those that have a very good reputation or are very well known in mainstream.  However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.

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April 26, 2023, 04:35:16 AM
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Those dishonest tactics are probably the number one reason why many gamblers prefer to stick to the casinos they already know, some casinos employ selective scamming tactics and they use their TOS to try to make their actions to seem legitimate, and if the casino owners are smart they can get away with this for a very long time.

So people prefer to not take the risk as they know that if they were to fall victim of such tactic, there will be no chance at all to recover their money.
IMO the same can happen in bigger casinos, I know it's unlikely but i've experienced it once and it's frustrating when your winnings are simply taken away and you can't do anything aside from shrugging it off because you can't win against their rules.

That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
For me, it's the same plus the minimum withdrawal amounts because some casinos would have little to no deposit limits but their minimums withdrawal is so high like it's for high rollers.

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April 26, 2023, 07:36:55 AM
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Personally I'm only using platforms that have been around for some time, and of course those that have a very good reputation or are very well known in mainstream.  However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Almost all old casinos have fast withdrawals on average but not for new casinos because it might complicate withdrawals by asking for KYC or complicated documents or fulfilling wagering requirements if you can't fulfill that you won't be able to withdraw your money even your account will be banned and funds frozen, you are right to play in old casinos because apart from being guaranteed safe they are also much more convenient.

small casinos or new casinos are very unsafe to play big money so if you want to test it, be sure to complete KYC or use small money then play if you are ready to make a withdrawal and if the process is fast then use big money, because to test it you have to use small money to avoid casino scam.

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April 26, 2023, 01:10:41 PM
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Personally I'm only using platforms that have been around for some time, and of course those that have a very good reputation or are very well known in mainstream.  However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.

that is a good way to protect yourself, sticking to the bigger and most reputable casinos like duelbits, roobet, so forth and so on
withdraw times are a good metric to keep an eye on
what would be an amount of time that you think it's too long and unacceptable? more than 2 or 3 days for me would be a deal breaker.

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April 26, 2023, 02:14:38 PM
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Personally I'm only using platforms that have been around for some time, and of course those that have a very good reputation or are very well known in mainstream.  However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Almost all old casinos have fast withdrawals on average but not for new casinos because it might complicate withdrawals by asking for KYC or complicated documents or fulfilling wagering requirements if you can't fulfill that you won't be able to withdraw your money even your account will be banned and funds frozen, you are right to play in old casinos because apart from being guaranteed safe they are also much more convenient.

small casinos or new casinos are very unsafe to play big money so if you want to test it, be sure to complete KYC or use small money then play if you are ready to make a withdrawal and if the process is fast then use big money, because to test it you have to use small money to avoid casino scam.

Reputable casinos really have the hearts of the players because of course, the capability of the casino is already proven for the whole duration of their operation. The functionality and the features of these casinos stand out which is the reason why they have so many patronage and is still continuously operating despite new rising competitions. Most people are after the reviews and feedbacks. If there will be lesser to none who will vouch for a website, they will think twice on depositing and playing in it.

But of course, discovering another great casino won't happen if people are going to choose the same casino all over again. It takes risk to try new things and explore something unfamiliar to you.

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In gambling, we cannot predict the exact outcome of aby gambling platform since the way everyone of them manage thier own is different from others, this makes it more accurate for a gambler to always look in for those behind every gambling platform they may wanted to tryout, this is to avoid falling into the habds of those you can not trace or trust their system and what they offers, that's why most of the gambling sites always create a referral system whereby their gamblers can bring in new members to participate because they are reliable enough.

But in doing a business, anything can still come up in situations whereby a gambling platform couldn't meet up to expectations to help it maintain the running of the platform a d this kind of challenge lead to their going bankrupt or when got attacked when they were unable to maintain a good security measures on their platform, that's why everything must be concluded under taking risk in gambling.


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April 26, 2023, 03:56:36 PM
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Personally I'm only using platforms that have been around for some time, and of course those that have a very good reputation or are very well known in mainstream.  However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Everyone must look for a more reliable and safe platform in gambling betting, usually a platform that has been operating for a long time and has a reputation, far more trustworthy than the new small gambling platform. I am not close to the coinplay mentioned by the OP because I have never used it, but from CoinPlay's experience we can take lessons about the accuracy of more trusted gambling use.

But for me to trust the new platform and a small casino is far more risky because the reputation is not so tested in terms of the speed of withdrawal of money, but returning to everyone and if they are comfortable using it may not be a problem, when the small and new platforms can be trusted in Faster withdrawal of money.

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small casinos or new casinos are very unsafe to play big money so if you want to test it, be sure to complete KYC or use small money then play if you are ready to make a withdrawal and if the process is fast then use big money, because to test it you have to use small money to avoid casino scam.

I have no idea how KYC will help you in testing a new casino especially if we are playing with small amount of money.
Dont you think it is risky to give your identity for a new casino?
I would prefer to test new casino with small amount and without KYC than completing KYC just for testing purpose.
One more thing, be careful to increase your stake/bankroll although you managed to withdraw small amount on your testing purpose.
Scam casino will let you to withdraw small amount in order to attract you so you start a new session with bigger money then the scam casino will start their bad actions.

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However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Yes, I agree with you on this very statement of yours as one of the reasons why people use smaller advertised casinos here on the forum. But some other reasons include as fellows;
1. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because they believe that in as much as a casino is running a signature campaign here on the forum by a reputable manager that such casino is legit and safe and as such they could use and not be afraid of having their funds scammed.
2. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because of signature campaign (i.e since they are getting paid from a casino's signature campaign, they end up patronizing and gambling on that casino for the main time of partaking in it's signature campaign).

 
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April 26, 2023, 04:58:29 PM
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However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Yes, I agree with you on this very statement of yours as one of the reasons why people use smaller advertised casinos here on the forum. But some other reasons include as fellows;
1. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because they believe that in as much as a casino is running a signature campaign here on the forum by a reputable manager that such casino is legit and safe and as such they could use and not be afraid of having their funds scammed.
2. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because of signature campaign (i.e since they are getting paid from a casino's signature campaign, they end up patronizing and gambling on that casino for the main time of partaking in it's signature campaign).
I don't know for sure, but these points of yours shouldn't be any reason for someone here in the forum to reply or use these casinos because as you being employed by these campaign managers, it is clearly that stated the manager only provide the advertising services for these companies and any other personal business with these companies that can lead to lost of funds is clearly not the doing of the campaign manager as they too cant say for sure how these casino are trust Worthy enough for any forum members to use. So I think you trying out any of these new casino is at your own risk so you should be aware of what you are getting yourself into.
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However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Yes, I agree with you on this very statement of yours as one of the reasons why people use smaller advertised casinos here on the forum. But some other reasons include as fellows;
1. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because they believe that in as much as a casino is running a signature campaign here on the forum by a reputable manager that such casino is legit and safe and as such they could use and not be afraid of having their funds scammed.
2. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because of signature campaign (i.e since they are getting paid from a casino's signature campaign, they end up patronizing and gambling on that casino for the main time of partaking in it's signature campaign).
I don't know for sure, but these points of yours shouldn't be any reason for someone here in the forum to reply or use these casinos because as you being employed by these campaign managers, it is clearly that stated the manager only provide the advertising services for these companies and any other personal business with these companies that can lead to lost of funds is clearly not the doing of the campaign manager as they too cant say for sure how these casino are trust Worthy enough for any forum members to use. So I think you trying out any of these new casino is at your own risk so you should be aware of what you are getting yourself into.
Arent these things supposed not to be mandatory? If you are a signature participant then it would really not that right if they would be mandating you to play with your weekly pays on sigcamps.It isnt really just
that something a right thing for them to asked out because  it is really just not right at all.I havent seen any companies though to have that kind of terms in regarding into their members. Yes, you could really
be able to recieve up your pay given into your gambling site account but doesnt mean that you would be needing to spend it, it is really that totally on your choice whether you would really be
playing with those balance or not.

As long you arent that been forced on then there's nothing wrong with this. Playing on small sites or new ones are really just depending on a certain user. People do usually ending up on playing
on these places is on because out of some recommendations, curiosity and interest specially that new sites or platforms doesnt always mean that theyre scam completely.
When we do see some interesting stuff then this is where we do usually stick on.

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April 27, 2023, 09:19:51 PM
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I have no idea how KYC will help you in testing a new casino especially if we are playing with small amount of money.
Dont you think it is risky to give your identity for a new casino?
I would prefer to test new casino with small amount and without KYC than completing KYC just for testing purpose.
One more thing, be careful to increase your stake/bankroll although you managed to withdraw small amount on your testing purpose.
Scam casino will let you to withdraw small amount in order to attract you so you start a new session with bigger money then the scam casino will start their bad actions.
Casinos like that can be pretty dangerous they pay the smaller amounts and refuse to pay when the withdrawal is high, how the hell would a person know if the casino will turn out to be a scam if they have already been paid once even if the money was not that big? That is the reason why it's better to just stick to old and trusted casinos.

Also as you said, it is not really a good thing to provide KYC and personal information to a brand-new casino with no trust and reputation among the gambling community since it can be a threat to one's privacy.
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I have no idea how KYC will help you in testing a new casino especially if we are playing with small amount of money.
Dont you think it is risky to give your identity for a new casino?
I would prefer to test new casino with small amount and without KYC than completing KYC just for testing purpose.
One more thing, be careful to increase your stake/bankroll although you managed to withdraw small amount on your testing purpose.
Scam casino will let you to withdraw small amount in order to attract you so you start a new session with bigger money then the scam casino will start their bad actions.
Casinos like that can be pretty dangerous they pay the smaller amounts and refuse to pay when the withdrawal is high, how the hell would a person know if the casino will turn out to be a scam if they have already been paid once even if the money was not that big? That is the reason why it's better to just stick to old and trusted casinos.

Also as you said, it is not really a good thing to provide KYC and personal information to a brand-new casino with no trust and reputation among the gambling community since it can be a threat to one's privacy.
This is why some people do really ask out for some bankroll sign message if the site does have that ample balance for them to pay out those huge winnings or not but mostly
they would really be setting out some max bet amount for them to avoid on getting bankcrupt on the time that someone do hit up some big wins which is understandable. If they have just forgotten
this one then for sure they would really be wrekt up by someone who would be hitting up some huge win and make withdrawal and this is where withdrawal problem would begin. This is why
i do really make out some feedback read up first before making any deposit into new sites. Just like the rest been saying that being new isnt automatically means it is a scam,
it is really just that it is hard to get some users specially you dont still have the reputation and trust that had been mold up which it would really be normal that hesitance and doubts is always there.

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April 28, 2023, 08:35:36 AM
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However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Yes, I agree with you on this very statement of yours as one of the reasons why people use smaller advertised casinos here on the forum. But some other reasons include as fellows;
1. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because they believe that in as much as a casino is running a signature campaign here on the forum by a reputable manager that such casino is legit and safe and as such they could use and not be afraid of having their funds scammed.
2. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because of signature campaign (i.e since they are getting paid from a casino's signature campaign, they end up patronizing and gambling on that casino for the main time of partaking in it's signature campaign).


True, but another big and perhaps the biggest reason that makes people run immediately to create accounts in new casinos is because in new casinos they give sign-up bonuses and also because the casino is very new and it is easier for the person to create an account and take his referral link and start publicizing his referral link to get many referrals early, with these two things I said "registration bonus and the possibility of getting many referrals" new casinos become the strong dish of many people, but the problem always comes after people have created accounts and have deposited and played, when it comes to withdrawals and that the big noise starts, because not every casino is here to stay for the long term, some are total scams and others are partial scams that make selective payments and use TOS to hold people's funds and thus stay with their scam site for a long time

what would be an amount of time that you think it's too long and unacceptable? more than 2 or 3 days for me would be a deal breaker.

on this question, the logic in my opinion should be simple: if people's deposit arrives fast in people's account then why would people's withdrawal arrive late in people's wallet? people, but then I ask: when a person makes a bet and the bet wins and the amount that he bet is reflected in the balance of that person's account, then it means that everything is fine, the casino agreed that that amount that is in the balance of the account of the person is fine, so why at the time of withdrawal comes with arguments from many accounts and KYC? why do they let people make deposits and then ask for KYC? this is a very shady behavior, in my opinion the withdrawal should be instant

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April 28, 2023, 08:51:35 AM
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Casinos like that can be pretty dangerous they pay the smaller amounts and refuse to pay when the withdrawal is high, how the hell would a person know if the casino will turn out to be a scam if they have already been paid once even if the money was not that big? That is the reason why it's better to just stick to old and trusted casinos.

Also as you said, it is not really a good thing to provide KYC and personal information to a brand-new casino with no trust and reputation among the gambling community since it can be a threat to one's privacy.
New casinos that are still small have the possibility not to provide withdrawals or wins in larger amounts because their bankroll is insufficient so this will happen and in the end have the opportunity to become a scam casino.
It is true that it is better to play at an old casino that is popular and has a good reputation so that what we should get or what we are entitled to does not just disappear.
If you really want to use or try a small casino, it's better to use small amounts of money and think of it as just adding to the experience so that we don't need to be afraid of losing large amounts of money there.

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April 28, 2023, 08:58:19 AM
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small casinos or new casinos are very unsafe to play big money so if you want to test it, be sure to complete KYC or use small money then play if you are ready to make a withdrawal and if the process is fast then use big money, because to test it you have to use small money to avoid casino scam.

I have no idea how KYC will help you in testing a new casino especially if we are playing with small amount of money.
Dont you think it is risky to give your identity for a new casino?
I would prefer to test new casino with small amount and without KYC than completing KYC just for testing purpose.
One more thing, be careful to increase your stake/bankroll although you managed to withdraw small amount on your testing purpose.
Scam casino will let you to withdraw small amount in order to attract you so you start a new session with bigger money then the scam casino will start their bad actions.

Aren't many people who want to test new casinos always don't want to use KYC, especially with small capital, in my opinion, KYC is not needed because it is also risky unless it is needed with large withdrawals.
So look for a new casino without KYC with small capital, lots of people do it.

If you want to use a big money session then use a more popular and reputable casino on the forum it will be much better than with a new casino then they increase the stakes because of a successful withdrawal, of course usually a new casino there is always a reason to hold your balance.

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April 28, 2023, 11:19:04 AM
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Those dishonest tactics are probably the number one reason why many gamblers prefer to stick to the casinos they already know, some casinos employ selective scamming tactics and they use their TOS to try to make their actions to seem legitimate, and if the casino owners are smart they can get away with this for a very long time.

So people prefer to not take the risk as they know that if they were to fall victim of such tactic, there will be no chance at all to recover their money.
IMO the same can happen in bigger casinos, I know it's unlikely but i've experienced it once and it's frustrating when your winnings are simply taken away and you can't do anything aside from shrugging it off because you can't win against their rules.
What is the name of that big casino so that we can avoid it now before the same worse experience happens to us. If it's only about the rules then maybe you violate it? And they are not really a scam. There are casinos out there that are strict like they don't allow a VPN. Once you accidentally connect a VPN and access them, automatically they will see your account as suspected and any money on it can be confiscated.

This is why it's important to always check the casino rules and their updates because they can sometimes change it. When it comes to speed of withdrawals. I don't mind waiting for a couple of hours but if the waiting is about a day or two, I will never play on them anymore. As a small gambler, I prefer sites with no minimum deposit and small minimum withdrawal amounts, also small withdrawal fees.
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April 28, 2023, 11:47:11 AM
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The upside of using a minor platform is that they are building a reputation and probably care more about their players for the time being (I say for the time being as this might quickly change as they are generating enough revenue and have so many players that they can start neglecting their dedicated care for player satisfaction). The downside is that you don't know how good their practices are and that they haven't passed the time test.

These days, long-time casinos are employing increasingly shady practices. Wager requirements to withdraw, demanding KYC for players who have a significant bankroll, banning players who win big, and limiting/suspending accounts with high requirements to unlock (if it is even possible to unlock). This also does not factor in the legitimacy of results while you're playing too.

With all of this in mind, and that trusting new casinos is a risk in itself, it's almost not worth using a crypto-based casino at all. Using one is a gamble to your entire balance without any chance of reward. So, what's the point?

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April 28, 2023, 11:55:39 AM
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Aren't many people who want to test new casinos always don't want to use KYC, especially with small capital, in my opinion, KYC is not needed because it is also risky unless it is needed with large withdrawals.
So look for a new casino without KYC with small capital, lots of people do it.

If you want to use a big money session then use a more popular and reputable casino on the forum it will be much better than with a new casino then they increase the stakes because of a successful withdrawal, of course usually a new casino there is always a reason to hold your balance.

I saw too many people looking for a new casino that we can use to play with small capital but sadly whenever the user got Big Win and want to withdraw their wins then the Casino always asks the user to do the KYC.
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