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May 05, 2023, 08:15:36 PM
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Here are some Negative effects of excessive gambling.

Too much stress
Anxiety and Depression
Debt
Making wrong decisions

You will not think of the negative effects when you're still enjoying the game but when you don't know how to get out and you stated chasing your losses, is not enjoyable anymore, you think of your losses you think that you can beat the house because you've experienced winning because you experienced how is it like to win big amount but you did not quit on time.
Everything depends on quitting at the right time and knowing your limitation, without this, you will fall into addiction so enjoying it becomes a source of anxiety and depression.






But the fact that everyone has their limit line and the ability to control and operates within your limit is what makes you different from any other person and for this fact, what may get you addicted may not be able to get me addicted in the sense that everything influence depends on the amount of time we devote to it and this is something that we need to constantly work with as the functional knowledge before we venture into anything.

So what determine the level of responsibility in anyone gambling is how far their able to manged their gambling habits and being able to keep it under moderation is what makes the big difference.
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May 05, 2023, 08:20:23 PM
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In the end they also need us but on the other hand we also need them so with this we must still respect the rules that apply but on the other hand the business people in this casino will not mess with the site considering this is a matter of reputation.

It is obvious that there is no man is an island.  Every person and service need each other.  This is why the gambling industry had been prospering ever since.  Many people find gambling to help them spend their time in a fun way reason why many find it as a leisure.  It is also given that if a client wanted to use the service of the platform they have to follow the gambling platform rules else, they would find themselves in troubles.

The more gambling becomes big, indirectly there are not a few complaints and problems every day so with this, good service is also very much needed to support this so that we as gamblers do not feel disadvantaged in terms of service. On the other hand, they will also benefit from clear big income.

Complaints can't be avoided especially when the complainant is ignorant of the gambling platform rules.  No matter how strict and perfect the casino implementation is, there will always be a player that do not read the terms and agreement thus will complain when he breached some of the rules of the casino that he failed to read.

Also in the gambling casino platform we can always see in their footer the link for gambling responsibly and the self-exclusion.  This are provided when the players wanted to opt out of gambling and have some rest in a limited time. 
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May 05, 2023, 08:49:45 PM
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The problem with posts like this is that the majority of users in this forum are going to criticize those who lose, telling them it's their own fault and their own problem, but indeed - what you say makes a lot of sense - suicide rate from gambling is on the high and has never been so high....

20-30 years ago in order to gamble you had to drive to a casino or a bookie, today it's all laid down for you at the ease of your fingertips... yes, it is designed against you but people still get addicted to it just like alcohol, cigarettes and more ... the only trouble with this addiction is that it could be silent, invisible, there won't be visible symptoms...

Nonetheless, we still believe some people can gamble and keep it sane, we also believe in taking advantage of gambling offers (hence - our blog), but by all means your thread should not be taken lightly neither.

Thanks for posting this info.

The problem starts with the gambler itself. I would agree ostracizing them and hating them for becoming like that is wrong and is just plain unfair to the ones suffering but at the same time they wouldn't have gone to such a level in their life if they knew how to control their urges. It's not like you need to gamble to stay alive, and it's not like there aren't enough cautionary tales out in the internet and all forms of media that showcase how dangerous getting addicted to anything, especially gambling is. All you really have to do is to employ proper discipline and become a better person through control. It's not that hard. I get it, sometimes stress drives us to do things we wouldn't otherwise do if we're relaxed and are having fun, but that's all the more reasons to find something that wouldn't stress you more like gambling.

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May 06, 2023, 11:24:44 AM
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I want to say that in my opinion, it doesn't matter whether you're quickly getting attached to things or not ... It's really hard to tell. What matters is your monthly income, and that's what you can easily tell by looking at your paycheck. If it's too low, like less than $400 per month(or, it can be $1,000 per month in some places. It depends on where you live.), you shouldn't gamble at all, period. No excuses. If you want to make additional money through gambling, then you need to see a doctor, a good professional who is able to explain to you have much more chances to make additional money elsewhere rather than through gambling.
I think a sensible person would simply not do that since they should definitely have an idea that they can't actually gamble if they have a limited income that doesn't even allow them to have any savings and if they have any savings from the salary, they can't gamble and it's a sensible decision to save the money instead of gambling them away.

If someone is a responsible gambler, not addicted to it, and has an income that allows them to have some savings and still have some money to spare, they can use that to gamble and have some fun but they shouldn't aim to earn money with it, of course.

To people with low income, I wouldn't advise gambling anyway, even with their spare money. The thing is, there are so many different things to entertain yourself with apart gambling, when you have low income. You can go to a good restaurant, go to see a movie, buy yourself an expensive bottle of beer, some expensive food etc. Plenty of things. For the people with high income all those things are boring, they do it every day. You won't surprise them with a lump of expensive cheese. So, they need some new treats, and gambling can be one of them.

Again, I think poor people shouldn't be gambling at all.

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May 06, 2023, 01:01:36 PM
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I think this boils down to the priorities of a person gambling. If he/she gambles with the aim of gaining profit, then that person might feel devastated every game as they always aim for a win. If a person gambles purely for entertainment and for that adrenaline rush, then regardless of the result, that person would be satisfied with every game, thereby decreasing the chances of them being addicted.

This is the problem on what majority of the people feel since they view gambling as an activity of earning money. Sure, you can double your money tonight but it also carries the risk of losing everything at once.
Gambling with the mindset of doubling your money can carry great risks and lead to bad behaviors, such as greed and uncontrollable emotions. In order to play responsibly, it is important to lower expectations and have a realistic view of what can be achieved through gambling. It is true that gambling has the potential to generate financial gain, but it is not a reliable source of income. Gambling should be considered as a form of entertainment only, not a way to make money consistently.

In order to gamble responsibly, it is important to set boundaries in the game, be it in terms of time or money spent. In addition, it is important not to take excessive financial risks and always prioritize wise money management.

It should also be remembered that gambling can have a serious impact on one's finances and well-being if not properly regulated. It is important to always play responsibly and know when to stop to avoid any negative effects that may occur.

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May 06, 2023, 01:29:00 PM
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In the end they also need us but on the other hand we also need them so with this we must still respect the rules that apply but on the other hand the business people in this casino will not mess with the site considering this is a matter of reputation.

It is obvious that there is no man is an island.  Every person and service need each other.  This is why the gambling industry had been prospering ever since.  Many people find gambling to help them spend their time in a fun way reason why many find it as a leisure.  It is also given that if a client wanted to use the service of the platform they have to follow the gambling platform rules else, they would find themselves in troubles.

The more gambling becomes big, indirectly there are not a few complaints and problems every day so with this, good service is also very much needed to support this so that we as gamblers do not feel disadvantaged in terms of service. On the other hand, they will also benefit from clear big income.

Complaints can't be avoided especially when the complainant is ignorant of the gambling platform rules.  No matter how strict and perfect the casino implementation is, there will always be a player that do not read the terms and agreement thus will complain when he breached some of the rules of the casino that he failed to read.

Also in the gambling casino platform we can always see in their footer the link for gambling responsibly and the self-exclusion.  This are provided when the players wanted to opt out of gambling and have some rest in a limited time. 
Yes, that's right, no one will be free from complaints and problems, all things will definitely experience it. Here it is the casino's job to provide fast service, that is the added value they will get with fast and easy service. Even though I rarely have a problem and have to contact support, I will pay close attention to the reviews from other players at the same casino. The more good reviews about their service, the more we will trust and feel at home on their site. On the other hand, if they don't do a quick and easy service, I will reconsider staying on their site.

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May 06, 2023, 01:40:56 PM
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In the end they also need us but on the other hand we also need them so with this we must still respect the rules that apply but on the other hand the business people in this casino will not mess with the site considering this is a matter of reputation.

It is obvious that there is no man is an island.  Every person and service need each other.  This is why the gambling industry had been prospering ever since.  Many people find gambling to help them spend their time in a fun way reason why many find it as a leisure.  It is also given that if a client wanted to use the service of the platform they have to follow the gambling platform rules else, they would find themselves in troubles.

The more gambling becomes big, indirectly there are not a few complaints and problems every day so with this, good service is also very much needed to support this so that we as gamblers do not feel disadvantaged in terms of service. On the other hand, they will also benefit from clear big income.

Complaints can't be avoided especially when the complainant is ignorant of the gambling platform rules.  No matter how strict and perfect the casino implementation is, there will always be a player that do not read the terms and agreement thus will complain when he breached some of the rules of the casino that he failed to read.

Also in the gambling casino platform we can always see in their footer the link for gambling responsibly and the self-exclusion.  This are provided when the players wanted to opt out of gambling and have some rest in a limited time. 
Yes, that's right, no one will be free from complaints and problems, all things will definitely experience it. Here it is the casino's job to provide fast service, that is the added value they will get with fast and easy service. Even though I rarely have a problem and have to contact support, I will pay close attention to the reviews from other players at the same casino. The more good reviews about their service, the more we will trust and feel at home on their site. On the other hand, if they don't do a quick and easy service, I will reconsider staying on their site.
Yes you are mate sometimes we encounter some issues from our favorite casino so we must accept the fact that we are not free or special. And also I agree what you said above that base from the reviews from other players in the casino we can judge them, the more the positive reviews the more we realize that casino is worthy in our trust and feel safe to play with them and from the low reviews then we have doubt if we play with them.

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May 06, 2023, 05:12:50 PM
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I think this boils down to the priorities of a person gambling. If he/she gambles with the aim of gaining profit, then that person might feel devastated every game as they always aim for a win. If a person gambles purely for entertainment and for that adrenaline rush, then regardless of the result, that person would be satisfied with every game, thereby decreasing the chances of them being addicted.

This is the problem on what majority of the people feel since they view gambling as an activity of earning money. Sure, you can double your money tonight but it also carries the risk of losing everything at once.
Gambling with the mindset of doubling your money can carry great risks and lead to bad behaviors, such as greed and uncontrollable emotions. In order to play responsibly, it is important to lower expectations and have a realistic view of what can be achieved through gambling. It is true that gambling has the potential to generate financial gain, but it is not a reliable source of income. Gambling should be considered as a form of entertainment only, not a way to make money consistently.

In order to gamble responsibly, it is important to set boundaries in the game, be it in terms of time or money spent. In addition, it is important not to take excessive financial risks and always prioritize wise money management.

It should also be remembered that gambling can have a serious impact on one's finances and well-being if not properly regulated. It is important to always play responsibly and know when to stop to avoid any negative effects that may occur.

It is always, and a must play alongside with full responsibilities, gambling can be fun if you know how to handle all the possible emotions and you know how to limit yourself in terms of finances that you will going to use, with this kind of capabilities there's a big chance that you will just use this venue to attain entertainment and not going to have any addiction problems.

But, if you are unable to handle the pressure, expect to have a lot of possible problem especially suffering from huge addictions.

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May 06, 2023, 06:09:18 PM
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Therefore it is best to set the entertainment goal over the profit goal. It also helps to avoid frustrations. Just enjoy spending within your means and only gamble with the amount of money that you can afford to lose.

You are correct, but the truth is that people reason differently; there are people who take it to be more of an entertainment to them, whereas the winning that comes after they just see as an additional excitement for them. But either way, I see that gambling is just a two-sided thing, one for fun and another for gamblers to try out their luck and earn some money. There are people who really depend on the aspect of making money from gambling; some people also see it as just a side hustle, and others fully enjoy it as fun. So what matters now is what any gambler would see gambling as. While I love gambling for fun with my friends, I also enjoy the wins that come off it, which make me feel happier.

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May 07, 2023, 04:00:33 AM
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Therefore it is best to set the entertainment goal over the profit goal. It also helps to avoid frustrations. Just enjoy spending within your means and only gamble with the amount of money that you can afford to lose.

You are correct, but the truth is that people reason differently; there are people who take it to be more of an entertainment to them, whereas the winning that comes after they just see as an additional excitement for them. But either way, I see that gambling is just a two-sided thing, one for fun and another for gamblers to try out their luck and earn some money. There are people who really depend on the aspect of making money from gambling; some people also see it as just a side hustle, and others fully enjoy it as fun. So what matters now is what any gambler would see gambling as. While I love gambling for fun with my friends, I also enjoy the wins that come off it, which make me feel happier.
As long as we can treat gambling as entertainment, we can still enjoy it and if we can get a win, that is a bonus for us and never try to get more because it can lead us to more losses. If people see it as a second job, they should think about the defeat they can get when they play gambling without limits for too long. It's better to use gambling for fun because that's what it is for us. It can prevent us from losing control of ourselves and money so that we will not be able to enjoy gambling as a pleasure.

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May 07, 2023, 08:54:19 AM
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Gambling irresponsibly gets you addicted and when you get addicted then it becomes an issue to win bets as you'll always lose. To gamble responsibly, then you have to know your limit and set a standard that you'll following to prevent irresponsible decisions like over betting.
Yes I agree with you you are right. Gambling responsibly is essential to avoid gambling addiction and serious financial loss. Because gambling addiction is a serious problem that can cause a lot of harm both financially and emotionally for the individual and his family.

There are several reasons why someone might become addicted to gambling, including psychological, biological, and social factors. One of the main reasons why someone can become addicted to gambling is because of the extreme winnings they experience. A big win can give a strong feeling of euphoria and satisfaction, which can make a person feel like continuing to gamble to achieve a similar or even bigger win. However, losing can also trigger gambling-addictive behavior as a person can feel frustrated, angry, or sad about losing their money and attempt to recover their losses by continuing to gamble.

In order to avoid gambling addiction, it is very important for a person to set limits and limit the amount of money and time they spend in gambling. In addition, individuals who are prone to gambling addiction should avoid situations that trigger the urge to gamble, such as avoiding casinos or environments that promote gambling.

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May 07, 2023, 09:33:15 AM
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That's the psychological effect when you are playing in a long time, thinking that after suffering with a long losing streak, it's about time to
take advantage of the winning streak that he's enjoying.

End of the day, instead of recovering or having some profits, it will lead him to lose back everything as he doesn't have any limitations to stop his gambling.

It's more on how you control and how you manage to set both win and losing amount.
It's definitely the human psychology that makes them lose in gambling, a gambler, after every time they lose, start thinking that now I will win, and they deposit again only with the hope that maybe they will start winning now after losing so much, but the results stay the same and that is because it's all about your luck and the platform isn't counting your losses to give you winnings after a while.

Some people think that your wins or losses also depend on how old or new you are on a platform, they think that if you have created an account just now and are gambling for the first time, they give you more wins so that you gamble more, which is nothing more than a myth.

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May 07, 2023, 11:33:43 AM
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I think this boils down to the priorities of a person gambling. If he/she gambles with the aim of gaining profit, then that person might feel devastated every game as they always aim for a win. If a person gambles purely for entertainment and for that adrenaline rush, then regardless of the result, that person would be satisfied with every game, thereby decreasing the chances of them being addicted.

This is the problem on what majority of the people feel since they view gambling as an activity of earning money. Sure, you can double your money tonight but it also carries the risk of losing everything at once.
Gambling with the mindset of doubling your money can carry great risks and lead to bad behaviors, such as greed and uncontrollable emotions. In order to play responsibly, it is important to lower expectations and have a realistic view of what can be achieved through gambling. It is true that gambling has the potential to generate financial gain, but it is not a reliable source of income. Gambling should be considered as a form of entertainment only, not a way to make money consistently.

In order to gamble responsibly, it is important to set boundaries in the game, be it in terms of time or money spent. In addition, it is important not to take excessive financial risks and always prioritize wise money management.

It should also be remembered that gambling can have a serious impact on one's finances and well-being if not properly regulated. It is important to always play responsibly and know when to stop to avoid any negative effects that may occur.
A gambler may be able to survive in gambling temporarily if he does not play controlled gambling, in the long term he may face many obstacles in his gambling life. One of those obstacles will be financial hardship. There may be more factors involved. Such as family problems, various problems including physical complications. Forum users always advised to practice responsible gambling. But if a gambler can dissuade him from these words, then there will be benefit. While gambling is considered a source of pleasure but many gamblers considered as a source of income. Gamblers who value the excitement of gambling more than the money, as well as control excessive greed, will be able to conduct responsible gambling.

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May 07, 2023, 02:34:17 PM
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As long as we can treat gambling as entertainment, we can still enjoy it and if we can get a win, that is a bonus for us and never try to get more because it can lead us to more losses. If people see it as a second job, they should think about the defeat they can get when they play gambling without limits for too long. It's better to use gambling for fun because that's what it is for us. It can prevent us from losing control of ourselves and money so that we will not be able to enjoy gambling as a pleasure.

LOL, I guess you are talking to core gamblers directly or addicts. A friend in this forum once said, and I quote,

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And about them addicts – well, that's the name of the game.

Addiction is what the game really is; he might be right, but I don't see myself being so addicted to gambling. I can go a week or two without giving a thought to gambling without missing it. I have what I am giving full attention to that is fetching me monthly earnings, and I also have a few other things to attend to that put money in the pocket, so if I have time to gamble and make a win, I am happy, and I still enjoy the fun moment. But there are people who I think are professionals gamblers—not as if they make winnings every time, but they really use to make some potential wins, and they use the money to do great things too. Well, that's what they want for themselves, and as long as they are enjoying what they do and also earning from it, despite the loss, there is nothing bad in it.

But wait... Is it true that most gambling addicts also get addicted to drugs or alcohol? Because the few gamblers I know here almost used to win every day, I don't see any useful things they do with the money if not drinking, smoking, and taking some hard drugs. It seems that's just where all their money is going. (Anyone can answer this, please.)

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May 07, 2023, 07:06:33 PM
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As long as we can treat gambling as entertainment, we can still enjoy it and if we can get a win, that is a bonus for us and never try to get more because it can lead us to more losses. If people see it as a second job, they should think about the defeat they can get when they play gambling without limits for too long. It's better to use gambling for fun because that's what it is for us. It can prevent us from losing control of ourselves and money so that we will not be able to enjoy gambling as a pleasure.
If you want to make gambling as entertainment, sometimes it doesn't make us feel pressured to play, so we feel freer with the game, be it winning or losing, let's just say that it's part of gambling that we can't avoid, if we lose, let's say we are entertaining ourselves with the game, but if we win, we just withdraw the money then go to have fun entertain yourself too.

Gambling really has to be responsible and must be wise so that something we don't want happens, for example, making ourselves addicts when we lose makes us curious and sells all our assets to get money for gambling and in the end we lose everything, that's not wise but greedy and avoid greed from within us before playing gambling.

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May 07, 2023, 07:18:39 PM
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And it's best if, after we get that pleasure, we can stop immediately so that the rate of our loss doesn't become too big. Many gamblers forget to stop gambling because they are too engrossed in gambling to forget the time. And that, of course, makes them lose more and more money. We want to prevent that from happening to us, so we really have to pay attention to our boundaries and not break them in the name of fun.

And don't be tempted by the bonuses the casino gives because that can also make us forget to stop. Playing in moderation and getting out of gambling when we are satisfied playing to prevent losing more money is a suggestion from a friend I always remember.
Well, one can't help it, if you are gambling regularly and have been doing that for a long time, you have probably become addicted by now, and that addiction makes you think that you will soon win a lot of money even after losing every day, and that urge to play more and you might win this time makes you spend a lot of money on it.

Sooner or later, you will realize that you've already spent all your money on gambling only in the hope of getting something back very soon but that never really happened, even if you manage to get some wins sometimes, you start thinking that you will double or win more with it and then you lose that as well. That's how gambling is.
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May 07, 2023, 07:26:06 PM
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Therefore it is best to set the entertainment goal over the profit goal. It also helps to avoid frustrations. Just enjoy spending within your means and only gamble with the amount of money that you can afford to lose.

You are correct, but the truth is that people reason differently; there are people who take it to be more of an entertainment to them, whereas the winning that comes after they just see as an additional excitement for them. But either way, I see that gambling is just a two-sided thing, one for fun and another for gamblers to try out their luck and earn some money. There are people who really depend on the aspect of making money from gambling; some people also see it as just a side hustle, and others fully enjoy it as fun. So what matters now is what any gambler would see gambling as. While I love gambling for fun with my friends, I also enjoy the wins that come off it, which make me feel happier.
Hmmm interesting, "people actually depend on gambling to make money " this is a statement I don't like seeing but notwithstanding some Hippocrates feel they can actually make steady money from gambling where as the case is different meaning gambling actually makes money from you on a daily basis. I hate to see people taking gambling as a way to escape from your financial problems because has made many folks become debtors but that I believe happens to only folks that see it as a must do affair #addiction

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May 07, 2023, 08:57:20 PM
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Therefore it is best to set the entertainment goal over the profit goal. It also helps to avoid frustrations. Just enjoy spending within your means and only gamble with the amount of money that you can afford to lose.

You are correct, but the truth is that people reason differently; there are people who take it to be more of an entertainment to them, whereas the winning that comes after they just see as an additional excitement for them. But either way, I see that gambling is just a two-sided thing, one for fun and another for gamblers to try out their luck and earn some money. There are people who really depend on the aspect of making money from gambling; some people also see it as just a side hustle, and others fully enjoy it as fun. So what matters now is what any gambler would see gambling as. While I love gambling for fun with my friends, I also enjoy the wins that come off it, which make me feel happier.
Hmmm interesting, "people actually depend on gambling to make money " this is a statement I don't like seeing but notwithstanding some Hippocrates feel they can actually make steady money from gambling where as the case is different meaning gambling actually makes money from you on a daily basis. I hate to see people taking gambling as a way to escape from your financial problems because has made many folks become debtors but that I believe happens to only folks that see it as a must do affair #addiction
We are the ones who do control or making our fate and if you are a certain person who do loves to gamble just because you are aiming just for the sake on making money then you would definitely be messing up later on.When dealing up with gambling then you should really be that responsible because if not then you would really be experiencing some financial hardship or situation which it is something that we dont really like.Gamble responsibly and you wont really be able to experience problems or headaches since you've been that responsible and wary about your spending habits but if not then different outcome would be experienced out.

Always set limits when it comes to your spending and the money you would be using on your gambling session.You shouldnt really be that careless and spending like a madman and hoping that you you would
be making yourself that rich which we know that cant be possible because you would really be needing that extreme luck before you could be able to reach out that state.

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May 07, 2023, 09:14:25 PM
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Therefore it is best to set the entertainment goal over the profit goal. It also helps to avoid frustrations. Just enjoy spending within your means and only gamble with the amount of money that you can afford to lose.

You are correct, but the truth is that people reason differently; there are people who take it to be more of an entertainment to them, whereas the winning that comes after they just see as an additional excitement for them. But either way, I see that gambling is just a two-sided thing, one for fun and another for gamblers to try out their luck and earn some money. There are people who really depend on the aspect of making money from gambling; some people also see it as just a side hustle, and others fully enjoy it as fun. So what matters now is what any gambler would see gambling as. While I love gambling for fun with my friends, I also enjoy the wins that come off it, which make me feel happier.
Hmmm interesting, "people actually depend on gambling to make money " this is a statement I don't like seeing but notwithstanding some Hippocrates feel they can actually make steady money from gambling where as the case is different meaning gambling actually makes money from you on a daily basis. I hate to see people taking gambling as a way to escape from your financial problems because has made many folks become debtors but that I believe happens to only folks that see it as a must do affair #addiction
I completely agree with your mate, most gamblers, and when I say most, I mean majority of gamblers take gambling as a means of becoming financially free, I have several of such persons in my area where I live, like an experience I shared some time ago here, one who quit his job after some series of winning in sports betting, he felt that was how the winnings will keep coming, but eventually, the winning stopped and now, he's out here in the street looking for another job, cus right now, he doesn't even have the money to feed well, let alone gamble.
Gambling addiction have destroyed many destinies, lives, and when i say, "destroy", it doesn't mean the person have to die, many today are living dead, that is they are alive, but have no purpose for being alive.

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May 07, 2023, 09:21:44 PM
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Hmmm interesting, "people actually depend on gambling to make money " this is a statement I don't like seeing but notwithstanding some Hippocrates feel they can actually make steady money from gambling where as the case is different meaning gambling actually makes money from you on a daily basis. I hate to see people taking gambling as a way to escape from your financial problems because has made many folks become debtors but that I believe happens to only folks that see it as a must do affair #addiction

Just as much as you dislike it, I don't think anyone is fully in agreement that a gambler should see gambling as a means of escaping their financial problems. Gambling can instead contribute to their financial problems, like being in debt, just as you have mentioned. Although some have taken the risk and got favored with a heavy win, some people have also taken a big risk in gambling, which has landed them in big trouble. Last week I read a thread (I think it was on the Nigerian local board) where a mother and her son were sentenced to prison for gambling off a huge amount of money that was not theirs. Also, there have been a lot of stories on the gambling discussion board about people who have landed themselves in more trouble because they gambled with money that was not their own.

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