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August 20, 2023, 04:00:44 PM
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excessive gambling
  Excessive time would be the main cost to the actual game playing and the rest of the consequences is about the money allocated.   Be sensible in the amounts, go for regular play over one off amounts, never promise yourself you will win as part of a budget to planning the potential money spent and its all likely to work more often then not even if not winning the bet or gamble.  Solve the problem of spending too much and you can draw a line under the gambling as a negative overall
greed and impatience have always been the destroyers of many gamblers without exception, i often hear news about people embezzling money, debts to loan sharks, robbery or fraud just because they want to continue gambling, and damn they will continue to lose because greed is a barrier for them to win, take a break, calm your mind or go on vacation with your family first when you lose, don't be reckless...remember that tomorrow is still there and will definitely be better than today when you lose gambling.
Rightly said, it doesn't take long for a person to become destitute when greed works between addiction and gambling. Dealing with addiction is scary gambling should be strictly a form of entertainment and no one should have to suffer the negative consequences of gambling. You should not gamble while going through emotional problems like depression. Try to maintain a good balance between gambling and other things in life. To help gamble responsibly, if you lose gamble with an amount you can afford to give up control is possible.
It's easy to tell not to fall to addiction but I'm sure it's too late before you realize if you are an addict. It is not just in gambling but every vices that can give your personal life a negative effect or consequence. There are many different factors why gamblers are getting addicted to gambling but yeah it's a problem that can cause additional problem. Psychological problems is one of the factors why gamblers are getting addicted but one thing is for sure, being addicted will contribute additional psychological problems.

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August 20, 2023, 06:22:11 PM
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excessive gambling
  Excessive time would be the main cost to the actual game playing and the rest of the consequences is about the money allocated.   Be sensible in the amounts, go for regular play over one off amounts, never promise yourself you will win as part of a budget to planning the potential money spent and its all likely to work more often then not even if not winning the bet or gamble.  Solve the problem of spending too much and you can draw a line under the gambling as a negative overall
greed and impatience have always been the destroyers of many gamblers without exception, i often hear news about people embezzling money, debts to loan sharks, robbery or fraud just because they want to continue gambling, and damn they will continue to lose because greed is a barrier for them to win, take a break, calm your mind or go on vacation with your family first when you lose, don't be reckless...remember that tomorrow is still there and will definitely be better than today when you lose gambling.
Rightly said, it doesn't take long for a person to become destitute when greed works between addiction and gambling. Dealing with addiction is scary gambling should be strictly a form of entertainment and no one should have to suffer the negative consequences of gambling. You should not gamble while going through emotional problems like depression. Try to maintain a good balance between gambling and other things in life. To help gamble responsibly, if you lose gamble with an amount you can afford to give up control is possible.
It is our responsibility for us to comport ourselves and gamble responsibly without causing unnecessarily drama or putting ourselves in a bet that will make us lose big. There are people that are still gambling uncontrollable that is resulting to addiction and lose of funds due to mismanagement and greeds. We need to always have a strategy as a gamble that want to make money from betting. If we are consistent without greed, we can become a profitable gambler with huge profits only if we have a good money management and better strategy.

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August 21, 2023, 12:55:06 AM
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It's easy to tell not to fall to addiction but I'm sure it's too late before you realize if you are an addict. It is not just in gambling but every vices that can give your personal life a negative effect or consequence. There are many different factors why gamblers are getting addicted to gambling but yeah it's a problem that can cause additional problem. Psychological problems is one of the factors why gamblers are getting addicted but one thing is for sure, being addicted will contribute additional psychological problems.
We need to also consider that some people simply have greater chances of becoming addicts due to their personalities being geared towards a short term kind of thinking, as in that case they will not bother to think about the long term consequences of their behavior and will only care about what they feel at the moment.

This kind of personality can easily get into the path of an addiction and only realize too late this is the case, while someone that is more used to think long term can see that their behavior is leading them in that direction and take the necessary steps so this does not happen to them.
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August 21, 2023, 05:16:48 AM
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It's easy to tell not to fall to addiction but I'm sure it's too late before you realize if you are an addict. It is not just in gambling but every vices that can give your personal life a negative effect or consequence. There are many different factors why gamblers are getting addicted to gambling but yeah it's a problem that can cause additional problem. Psychological problems is one of the factors why gamblers are getting addicted but one thing is for sure, being addicted will contribute additional psychological problems.
We need to also consider that some people simply have greater chances of becoming addicts due to their personalities being geared towards a short term kind of thinking, as in that case they will not bother to think about the long term consequences of their behavior and will only care about what they feel at the moment.

This kind of personality can easily get into the path of an addiction and only realize too late this is the case, while someone that is more used to think long term can see that their behavior is leading them in that direction and take the necessary steps so this does not happen to them.


Yeah, when you are fully attached into something that you feel the adrenaline it's not impossible that you will be falling into addiction, there's always that lust and desire that will keep you to move deeper or lead you to take all the chances that you have just to please that eagerness inside you to play or to bet with the game you love.

Though just the same, it's more on the person on how he will handle the pressure and how he can manage his emotion and treatment
toward this activity.

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August 21, 2023, 10:59:09 AM
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excessive gambling
  Excessive time would be the main cost to the actual game playing and the rest of the consequences is about the money allocated.   Be sensible in the amounts, go for regular play over one off amounts, never promise yourself you will win as part of a budget to planning the potential money spent and its all likely to work more often then not even if not winning the bet or gamble.  Solve the problem of spending too much and you can draw a line under the gambling as a negative overall
greed and impatience have always been the destroyers of many gamblers without exception, i often hear news about people embezzling money, debts to loan sharks, robbery or fraud just because they want to continue gambling, and damn they will continue to lose because greed is a barrier for them to win, take a break, calm your mind or go on vacation with your family first when you lose, don't be reckless...remember that tomorrow is still there and will definitely be better than today when you lose gambling.
Rightly said, it doesn't take long for a person to become destitute when greed works between addiction and gambling. Dealing with addiction is scary gambling should be strictly a form of entertainment and no one should have to suffer the negative consequences of gambling. You should not gamble while going through emotional problems like depression. Try to maintain a good balance between gambling and other things in life. To help gamble responsibly, if you lose gamble with an amount you can afford to give up control is possible.
It's easy to tell not to fall to addiction but I'm sure it's too late before you realize if you are an addict. It is not just in gambling but every vices that can give your personal life a negative effect or consequence. There are many different factors why gamblers are getting addicted to gambling but yeah it's a problem that can cause additional problem. Psychological problems is one of the factors why gamblers are getting addicted but one thing is for sure, being addicted will contribute additional psychological problems.
Every addiction is psychological, and from what I noticed recently, people could be addicted to anything, only that most of what we are addicted to are not harmful or calls for too much attention, and that's why we don't seem to notice them. As it is in gambling, it's better to prepare our minds before we start gambling at all, which is why I will give it as an exemption to what you mentioned above about people becoming defeated by addiction if you advise them. This is not particularly true for all as the consciousness of gamblers helps in this regard, but that is when they could truly prepare their minds on what could possibly go wrong if they give in to gambling addiction.

This goes beyond merely telling them about the addiction to gambling but better educating them or the gamblers educating themselves on what could cause gambling addiction, the danger of the addiction and why gambling is the last place to look towards when someone is looking for a get-rich-quick scheme or trying to pay back debt. Desperation in gambling often leads to more loss. The earlier a starter knows this, the better for them unless they are foolish or daring themselves, then you let them learn from their mistake or wallow in their folly.

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August 21, 2023, 11:27:23 AM
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I think that telling people who are susceptible to addictions, not to partake in habit forming activities like gambling is not very useful, as people tend to ignore the warnings of others, when there is something that they really want to do. The most effective way that people learn tough lessons is with personal experience. There is no way around it. Life is the greatest teacher.

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August 21, 2023, 02:07:03 PM
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Every addiction is psychological, and from what I noticed recently, people could be addicted to anything, only that most of what we are addicted to are not harmful or calls for too much attention, and that's why we don't seem to notice them. As it is in gambling, it's better to prepare our minds before we start gambling at all, which is why I will give it as an exemption to what you mentioned above about people becoming defeated by addiction if you advise them. This is not particularly true for all as the consciousness of gamblers helps in this regard, but that is when they could truly prepare their minds on what could possibly go wrong if they give in to gambling addiction.

This goes beyond merely telling them about the addiction to gambling but better educating them or the gamblers educating themselves on what could cause gambling addiction, the danger of the addiction and why gambling is the last place to look towards when someone is looking for a get-rich-quick scheme or trying to pay back debt. Desperation in gambling often leads to more loss. The earlier a starter knows this, the better for them unless they are foolish or daring themselves, then you let them learn from their mistake or wallow in their folly.
Doesn't someone claim morality today? Everyone's an addiction specialist these days, right? While you're preaching about gambling addiction's hazards, remember that a million other addictions are ignored because they're "less harmful"

You think gambling is for cowards? Uncontrollable urges? Wrong! A sport for the strong, bold, and determined. Some survive and flourish! As you said, education is vital. Not simply the dread and gloom you sell

The real education is playing the game, knowing the dangers, and being smarter than the ordinary Joe. The strategy, calculation, and exhilaration of winning matter. Who are you to judge someone who gambles to get rich fast or pay off debt? People have changed their fortunes like that

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August 21, 2023, 03:13:36 PM
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Rightly said, it doesn't take long for a person to become destitute when greed works between addiction and gambling. Dealing with addiction is scary gambling should be strictly a form of entertainment and no one should have to suffer the negative consequences of gambling. You should not gamble while going through emotional problems like depression. Try to maintain a good balance between gambling and other things in life. To help gamble responsibly, if you lose gamble with an amount you can afford to give up control is possible.

The gambling playing and the addiction had a very close difference,because the gambler had a control to play and play for the full day he is not the addict.The gambling addict is the addict who don't have a capacity to stop the game on their control.The addict always give the negative impact to the gambling itself.They will spoil the reputation of the gambling among the other gamblers.Because the gambling addict will play the game with emotion and lose the entire money.So the new gambler will consider this as the bad example and stop their more game in gambling.

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August 21, 2023, 03:16:34 PM
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I think that telling people who are susceptible to addictions, not to partake in habit forming activities like gambling is not very useful, as people tend to ignore the warnings of others, when there is something that they really want to do. The most effective way that people learn tough lessons is with personal experience. There is no way around it. Life is the greatest teacher.
I somewhat agree with you but I wouldn't like watch someone I love suffering through bad experiences. Well if I help him/her then he/she would never realize how dangerous it can be. So in other words its dilemma and very complicated issue. Sometimes I feel collective about it so I go warning people. But sometimes I also think individualist about it so letting someone do his mistake may be better. I always prefer to warn young people.
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Responsible gaming ends when you start spending money on bills, family or anything else important that you were supposed to buy, and then decide to spend that money on gambling. This is already a very serious signal that you need to consider - whether I decide how much I play, or whether I'm already addicted and I have no control. Lying to myself that I'm not addicted will only make my addiction problems worse. And if someone already wants to play for money that is not theirs - that is, for loans or, even worse, money given to us by relatives/friends for safekeeping or for anything else - this is the last step to tragedy. Because if you keep borrowing all the time, it will end tragically - the worst thing is when you realize that it's too late and you have no chance to pay back all debts, and family and friends don't want to know you anymore.

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August 21, 2023, 03:41:01 PM
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I think that telling people who are susceptible to addictions, not to partake in habit forming activities like gambling is not very useful, as people tend to ignore the warnings of others, when there is something that they really want to do. The most effective way that people learn tough lessons is with personal experience. There is no way around it. Life is the greatest teacher.
I somewhat agree with you but I wouldn't like watch someone I love suffering through bad experiences. Well if I help him/her then he/she would never realize how dangerous it can be. So in other words its dilemma and very complicated issue. Sometimes I feel collective about it so I go warning people. But sometimes I also think individualist about it so letting someone do his mistake may be better. I always prefer to warn young people.
I also have to partially agree with you. The best way to go about this kind of addiction is to allow the people to learn by experience because most times they dismay advisers and some do not even agree that they are being addicted. However, there are still people that listen to advice so such kind of advice me change them, especially when they are not very much into the gambling addiction.

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August 21, 2023, 03:48:01 PM
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I think that telling people who are susceptible to addictions, not to partake in habit forming activities like gambling is not very useful, as people tend to ignore the warnings of others, when there is something that they really want to do. The most effective way that people learn tough lessons is with personal experience. There is no way around it. Life is the greatest teacher.
I somewhat agree with you but I wouldn't like watch someone I love suffering through bad experiences. Well if I help him/her then he/she would never realize how dangerous it can be. So in other words its dilemma and very complicated issue. Sometimes I feel collective about it so I go warning people. But sometimes I also think individualist about it so letting someone do his mistake may be better. I always prefer to warn young people.

Seeing someone who near to you with something that you know that harming them mentally and financially, it's a call that you need to address, helping in the way you know that they will understand will be appreciated, I mean, doing something that will let them realize what's going on and give them the guidance and help that they needed to overcome or to try harder to work on it and escape from such kind of things for the betterment of their life.

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August 21, 2023, 11:20:59 PM
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I think that telling people who are susceptible to addictions, not to partake in habit forming activities like gambling is not very useful, as people tend to ignore the warnings of others, when there is something that they really want to do. The most effective way that people learn tough lessons is with personal experience. There is no way around it. Life is the greatest teacher.
I somewhat agree with you but I wouldn't like watch someone I love suffering through bad experiences. Well if I help him/her then he/she would never realize how dangerous it can be. So in other words its dilemma and very complicated issue. Sometimes I feel collective about it so I go warning people. But sometimes I also think individualist about it so letting someone do his mistake may be better. I always prefer to warn young people.

Seeing someone who near to you with something that you know that harming them mentally and financially, it's a call that you need to address, helping in the way you know that they will understand will be appreciated, I mean, doing something that will let them realize what's going on and give them the guidance and help that they needed to overcome or to try harder to work on it and escape from such kind of things for the betterment of their life.
Have you ever seen someone who was cured addiction by wasting time, money and resources and in the end they go back to same act they were cured from? That is the height of it and the painful part of it.
It is therefore better that someone who is addicted should realise that they are addicted and it will be obvious that he needs help or have seen the need for help. Such a person will not go back to addiction if eventually cured.

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I agree with you and all forms of addiction, be it gambling or anything else, can never have a positive impact so there will only be bad or negative impacts that can be caused by each individual.
Winning at gambling is the beginning of ruin, especially for those who are not yet a gambling addict, so they can gradually wait until it is time for them to become addicted.
Of the many gambling addicts, I have never seen the positive side, even in terms of finance and psychology, they are different from normal people because financially they will definitely experience bankruptcy and regarding the psychology of an addict usually causes emotional feelings and difficult to give the right advice or instructions.
So great is the impact of gambling addiction, but there are still many people who are not aware of and don't care about things like that because they already have thoughts that are not normal anymore.
After all, how much money the gambling addict earns from winning will eventually run out with nothing left as the money returns to an impossible-to-beat house edge.

It will be more difficult to cure a gambling addict than to cure a drug addict because for drug addicts it is clear that there is rehabilitation and a separate method that has proven to be effective in healing them.

I think if someone is not an addicted gambler, winning a big amount will not necessarily lead to addiction. Yes, theoretically, it can happen to anyone, but in practice the vast majority of gamblers, 90%-95% of them, are not addicted to gambling. Those 5-10% is still a lot of people and that's a tragedy, and we must find a way to convince them to gamlbe responsibly, but it's not true that every gambler becomes addicted eventually.

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I agree with you and all forms of addiction, be it gambling or anything else, can never have a positive impact so there will only be bad or negative impacts that can be caused by each individual.
Winning at gambling is the beginning of ruin, especially for those who are not yet a gambling addict, so they can gradually wait until it is time for them to become addicted.
Of the many gambling addicts, I have never seen the positive side, even in terms of finance and psychology, they are different from normal people because financially they will definitely experience bankruptcy and regarding the psychology of an addict usually causes emotional feelings and difficult to give the right advice or instructions.
So great is the impact of gambling addiction, but there are still many people who are not aware of and don't care about things like that because they already have thoughts that are not normal anymore.
After all, how much money the gambling addict earns from winning will eventually run out with nothing left as the money returns to an impossible-to-beat house edge.

It will be more difficult to cure a gambling addict than to cure a drug addict because for drug addicts it is clear that there is rehabilitation and a separate method that has proven to be effective in healing them.

I think if someone is not an addicted gambler, winning a big amount will not necessarily lead to addiction. Yes, theoretically, it can happen to anyone, but in practice the vast majority of gamblers, 90%-95% of them, are not addicted to gambling. Those 5-10% is still a lot of people and that's a tragedy, and we must find a way to convince them to gamlbe responsibly, but it's not true that every gambler becomes addicted eventually.
Of course, not everyone, even a very gambler, becomes addicted to these games. 
I think that this can only happen to people who have a certain psychotype of personality.  First of all, such people should have a strong emotional perception of failure, which literally leads a person to restore, as he sees it, the lost justice.  In gambling, this is naturally a series of losses.  This feeling constantly pushes such a person to commit emotional and ill-considered, and often just stupid things. 
And the second aspect for a human gambler to become addicted to gambling is the fact that he himself is a weak-willed person and is not able to really overcome his emotions.  Indeed, probably among all gamblers there can be about 5% of such people. 
And it is from them that really mentally ill people can appear over time, those who really need to be treated for such addiction.

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August 22, 2023, 12:09:13 PM
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Have you ever seen someone who was cured addiction by wasting time, money and resources and in the end they go back to same act they were cured from? That is the height of it and the painful part of it.
It is therefore better that someone who is addicted should realise that they are addicted and it will be obvious that he needs help or have seen the need for help. Such a person will not go back to addiction if eventually cured.
There may be gambling addicts who return to gambling and eventually become gambling addicts again because they still can't learn to control themselves properly. Everything they do is in vain because they keep returning to gambling and don't realize that what they are doing means a lot to them.

Someone who is addicted to gambling really needs other people to be able to help him cure his gambling addiction. But they also have to have a strong intention to cure their gambling addiction so that what they do can really cure it. If they can see that gambling addiction has ruined their life, they will think about being able to maintain what they started to cure their gambling addiction so that they can truly recover and not depend on gambling anymore. And if he can recover, he has a second chance to organize his life for the better and teach other people with gambling addictions to recover too like him.

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August 22, 2023, 04:48:27 PM
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Have you ever seen someone who was cured addiction by wasting time, money and resources and in the end they go back to same act they were cured from? That is the height of it and the painful part of it.
It is therefore better that someone who is addicted should realise that they are addicted and it will be obvious that he needs help or have seen the need for help. Such a person will not go back to addiction if eventually cured.
There may be gambling addicts who return to gambling and eventually become gambling addicts again because they still can't learn to control themselves properly. Everything they do is in vain because they keep returning to gambling and don't realize that what they are doing means a lot to them.

Someone who is addicted to gambling really needs other people to be able to help him cure his gambling addiction. But they also have to have a strong intention to cure their gambling addiction so that what they do can really cure it. If they can see that gambling addiction has ruined their life, they will think about being able to maintain what they started to cure their gambling addiction so that they can truly recover and not depend on gambling anymore. And if he can recover, he has a second chance to organize his life for the better and teach other people with gambling addictions to recover too like him.
It is difficult when a gamer Becomes addicted to the game, because everything turns into doing something quickly or what they should do or do it just to play, people who do not do their things well or go to work, only for the game, this type of things are those that do not allow the person to arise, because the addiction causes that type of anxiety and the person just wants to be in the Casino playing and wanting to do that activity , in fact with little money the person cannot do much , the Personally, money goes very quickly and that is what is Dangerous because they are always in constant Danger and cannot do any more activities , their energy and everything is focused there , that is only bad , but that is why they must seek help to be Able to move your Life Forward.

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August 22, 2023, 07:24:39 PM
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There may be gambling addicts who return to gambling and eventually become gambling addicts again because they still can't learn to control themselves properly. Everything they do is in vain because they keep returning to gambling and don't realize that what they are doing means a lot to them.

Someone who is addicted to gambling really needs other people to be able to help him cure his gambling addiction. But they also have to have a strong intention to cure their gambling addiction so that what they do can really cure it. If they can see that gambling addiction has ruined their life, they will think about being able to maintain what they started to cure their gambling addiction so that they can truly recover and not depend on gambling anymore. And if he can recover, he has a second chance to organize his life for the better and teach other people with gambling addictions to recover too like him.
Yes, I totally agree with you on what you just said written above, because one step to recovery is knowing the fact that you are sick and need some assistance, which until a gambler knows that and is ready & willing to adjust his ways, such individual can never fully recover. Because what causes a gambling addiction is when someone sees gambling as his last hope for survival and hence tries to win at all cost, which in the end he ends up paying with his losses.

 
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August 22, 2023, 07:44:47 PM
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There are many disadvantages of excessive gambling that we need to talk about, and I do hope that newbies who plan to start gambling will learn something from this thread.

Gambling is not for everyone, some people tend to always get attached to whatever they do in their lives, too caring, too foodie, too protective, all these comes with disadvantages too, because I believe that too much of everything is bad.

If you are someone like this, stay away from gambling.

In the Gambling case, it's a different story entirely, if humans can get used to drugs, alcohol, and other harmful things in this category how much more trying to make money off gambling?

It is easier to start dteaming about quitting your job one day and retire in your 30s, you know what I am talking about, those weird dreams that one never dreamt about when working in a company from 8am to 5pm everyday.

Here are some Negative effects of excessive gambling.

Too much stress
Anxiety and Depression
Debt
Making wrong decisions

And if all these is active in one's life low self-esteem is sure to follow, many people messed up their lives by gambling and they don't know when they start borrowing money, or selling off properties because of gambling until they have nothing left.

You do give a fair bit of good advice, particularly about not dreaming that gambling will make you rich. That is the main trick that casinos bank on, people thinking that they can take a shortcut to huge wealth and trade in tiny amounts for a huge return - the odds are simply not stacked in your favor. Understanding that each bet is also independent from the last and any future bets is important too. There is not some hidden scale out there, saying you've lost 10 times in a row so you deserve to win on number 11 - no, you are just as likely to lose the next time as well. Those suffering from financial problems are those who will suffer the biggest and should never think it will get them out of a hole, it's going to make it worse.

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August 22, 2023, 08:30:42 PM
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There may be gambling addicts who return to gambling and eventually become gambling addicts again because they still can't learn to control themselves properly. Everything they do is in vain because they keep returning to gambling and don't realize that what they are doing means a lot to them.

Someone who is addicted to gambling really needs other people to be able to help him cure his gambling addiction. But they also have to have a strong intention to cure their gambling addiction so that what they do can really cure it. If they can see that gambling addiction has ruined their life, they will think about being able to maintain what they started to cure their gambling addiction so that they can truly recover and not depend on gambling anymore. And if he can recover, he has a second chance to organize his life for the better and teach other people with gambling addictions to recover too like him.
Yes, I totally agree with you on what you just said written above, because one step to recovery is knowing the fact that you are sick and need some assistance, which until a gambler knows that and is ready & willing to adjust his ways, such individual can never fully recover. Because what causes a gambling addiction is when someone sees gambling as his last hope for survival and hence tries to win at all cost, which in the end he ends up paying with his losses.

And each person are really that different when it comes to level of tolerance whether they would really be able to make control of themselves or would really be that totally decide up on playing gambling and dont

mind about its potential risks specially when it comes to addiction.Yes, there are people who are really that easily get that addicted but could easily be recovered or easily be able to stop just because they do have that kind of self control and having that discipline which unlike with other people on who dont have that kind of quality on which they are really making themselves able to fail on what are the things that should really be need to be done. If you wont really be making yourself  that responsible about your actions then most likely you would really be hooked up by addiction.

This is something the main thing which a certain gambler should really be avoiding because once you do get shackled with it, then there's no easy way for you to be able to
get out and almost people do really fail on this one.

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