This guy gave a whole prototype of "how live roulette scam us"

[Wiwo]

Ideally speaking there is high chance that whole table is covered with some amount of money at any given time thus giving higher odds to casino on not losing anything. Why make such huge technology then?

Do you mean technology to cheat?  Obviously, it is to get a huge gain in every game player. Maximizing profit is the name of the game here, I believe.

While this could work for the short term as absurd as it may sound it is not on the best interests of a casino to cheat like this, think about it even if no client ever realized what was going on, this will create a casino in which no one ever wins.

And a casino like that will soon find itself without any clients, as without the success stories which gamblers share with their friends or social media such a casino will fail to gain new clients at the same rate as a legitimate casino, and without new clients a casino like that is destined to fail.

You are absolutely correct mate, and your point is very clear, it is like they say that one does not eat his or her cake and still have it, a casino cheating on its immediate customers are indirectly cheating on themselves too, cus like you said, when gamblers discover that there's never been any significant win from such casino, they will start avoiding the casino for sure, and in the long run, such casino will be left with no customers.

Proves that casinos that always post on their social media accounts, big winnings made from their platform, don't do so for fancy, it's a marketing tool that motivates their immediate customers to keep gambling, and also attract new customer to the casino who would want to try to make similar kind of winning.

It won't take long before any casino that is cheating it customers runs out of business because the fastest way for any business to die down is to take what belongs to its customers there is a saying that goes that if you lose one good customer, you are indirectly losing 10 potential customers.

And same rule applies to casinos or other businesses the only time you can see a casino not paying attention to the feelings of their customer is when there are already set out to scam them, and those kinds of casinos are not hard to noticed and from the mood of operations, you can easily identify them and that is how fast the reputation get dented.

[Fatunad]

Ideally speaking there is high chance that whole table is covered with some amount of money at any given time thus giving higher odds to casino on not losing anything. Why make such huge technology then?

Do you mean technology to cheat?  Obviously, it is to get a huge gain in every game player. Maximizing profit is the name of the game here, I believe.

While this could work for the short term as absurd as it may sound it is not on the best interests of a casino to cheat like this, think about it even if no client ever realized what was going on, this will create a casino in which no one ever wins.

And a casino like that will soon find itself without any clients, as without the success stories which gamblers share with their friends or social media such a casino will fail to gain new clients at the same rate as a legitimate casino, and without new clients a casino like that is destined to fail.

You are absolutely correct mate, and your point is very clear, it is like they say that one does not eat his or her cake and still have it, a casino cheating on its immediate customers are indirectly cheating on themselves too, cus like you said, when gamblers discover that there's never been any significant win from such casino, they will start avoiding the casino for sure, and in the long run, such casino will be left with no customers.

Proves that casinos that always post on their social media accounts, big winnings made from their platform, don't do so for fancy, it's a marketing tool that motivates their immediate customers to keep gambling, and also attract new customer to the casino who would want to try to make similar kind of winning.

It won't take long before any casino that is cheating it customers runs out of business because the fastest way for any business to die down is to take what belongs to its customers there is a saying that goes that if you lose one good customer, you are indirectly losing 10 potential customers.

And same rule applies to casinos or other businesses the only time you can see a casino not paying attention to the feelings of their customer is when there are already set out to scam them, and those kinds of casinos are not hard to noticed and from the mood of operations, you can easily identify them and that is how fast the reputation get dented.

No secrets that could be hidden like forever, if there's a smoke then there's fire on which it might be caught by now but on the right time there would be leaks that a certain company or platform is really cheating out their users and if this issue would blown out then anticipate that it would scatter out like wildfire and there's no way on stopping it and as an owner then you might be able to benefit on making easy money through cheating up users then it would really be an over line for you.

Rigged and unfair casino or platform does exist, it is really just that there's no way for us to verify out if ever we do have those doubts but most of the time these kind of mindset is into those someone who
do just simply likes on looking for someone to blame. This is why even those fair companies would really be able to be included on to that blaming time of those losing gamblers.
Checking on the video then it is quite that obvious though on where the ball do lands and sticks out obviously. We might that able to notice it out but this is the only
time it was elaborated.

[qwertyup23]

I find this interesting as there a way in order to manipulate roulettes. With the technology used and the materials placed on the board, I find it very intriguing that certain factors can help manipulate the outcome in order to gain a big advantage for the casino to play.

Is there some verified information about this? I am very interested to read more as it can lead to serious manipulation that may hold the casino accountable, if proven guilty. Though this may be the case, I still find roulettes intimidating in nature due to the luck that is involved in this type of game.

[Wiwo]

No secrets that could be hidden like forever, if there's a smoke then there's fire on which it might be caught by now but on the right time there would be leaks that a certain company or platform is cheating out their users and if this issue would blown out then anticipate that it would scatter out like wildfire and there's no way on stopping it and as an owner then you might be able to benefit on making easy money through cheating up users then it would be an over line for you.

Most especially her in the forum, it's very hard for any scam to rein for long here before it gets busted and I am sure this also will result in the same thing, just as you have rightly said, whenever there is a smoke, there must definitely be a fire so is scam accustions, whenever you hear of them, it then means that casino has some characteristic that is not legit unless on few occasions were there can come out clean.

We have one or two casinos that have been busted in this manner before here in the forum, even if the never get caught outside the forum, but one can not hard bad character for long and I'm the long run everything they're worked for to build the scammy casino will probably be in vain since there may end up in jail in the case against them is proven in court.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Some of you guys here are a fan of conspiracy theories and at the same time weren't attending math lessons at school. Live casino game providers can't cheat because there work thousands of employees, they have cameras everywhere inside and famous casino companies aren't really looking for shady live casino game providers because they simply don't have a need of it. Mathematically, one zero in roulette already gives casinos an advantage, a guarantee that long-term they profit, that's all they need for success and to be in business forever.

So, if you often lose and aren't able to beat the house, that doesn't mean that live roulettes are scam, you have to analyze and understand that you have zero chance to win against it because of ZERO, this ZERO changes the fate of game. And there are roulette games with two zeros, don't expect any win especially from them.

If the chances of winning is zero, then what exactly is the reason why peeps are still playing the game?..

A man said to his mother, when money is involved in a deal, then don't trust anybody, the truth of the matter is that, anybody can cheat, and for some casinos, their desire to make more profit is sometimes higher than their desire to give their customers a fair game to play, this is why I still believe that its very possible for some game providers, casinos to cheat, most especially, on games where the majority of gamblers don't know the game mechanics or how it functions.

To be honest, whenever I have played roulette it has always happened to me that I always seek to play with 0 and 00, I don't know, but they are the numbers that I always play and I like when there are many people in roulette and they can play at the same time, because my chances of winning increase, so it could be said that yes, they may be weaknesses but those weaknesses can become strengths, and that's what I did when I started in physical casinos,of course things change when they play in a casino online, the strategies change for me, it should be played more generally.

[TheGreatPython]

While this could work for the short term as absurd as it may sound it is not on the best interests of a casino to cheat like this, think about it even if no client ever realized what was going on, this will create a casino in which no one ever wins.

And a casino like that will soon find itself without any clients, as without the success stories which gamblers share with their friends or social media such a casino will fail to gain new clients at the same rate as a legitimate casino, and without new clients a casino like that is destined to fail.

You are absolutely correct mate, and your point is very clear, it is like they say that one does not eat his or her cake and still have it, a casino cheating on its immediate customers are indirectly cheating on themselves too, cus like you said, when gamblers discover that there's never been any significant win from such casino, they will start avoiding the casino for sure, and in the long run, such casino will be left with no customers.

Proves that casinos that always post on their social media accounts, big winnings made from their platform, don't do so for fancy, it's a marketing tool that motivates their immediate customers to keep gambling, and also attract new customer to the casino who would want to try to make similar kind of winning.

Well, I don't even think this is true, a casino that gets a lot of customers already earns a lot of money since the house mostly wins and casinos are always in profit, why would they need to cheat their players only to get some money and obviously, if a casino continues doing that, they will probably get caught some day.

A casino management would probably think of the long term growth of their casino instead of getting some money by risking the whole reputation of their casino. That doesn't sound like a good deal to me.

[carlfebz2]

Some of you guys here are a fan of conspiracy theories and at the same time weren't attending math lessons at school. Live casino game providers can't cheat because there work thousands of employees, they have cameras everywhere inside and famous casino companies aren't really looking for shady live casino game providers because they simply don't have a need of it. Mathematically, one zero in roulette already gives casinos an advantage, a guarantee that long-term they profit, that's all they need for success and to be in business forever.

So, if you often lose and aren't able to beat the house, that doesn't mean that live roulettes are scam, you have to analyze and understand that you have zero chance to win against it because of ZERO, this ZERO changes the fate of game. And there are roulette games with two zeros, don't expect any win especially from them.

If the chances of winning is zero, then what exactly is the reason why peeps are still playing the game?..

A man said to his mother, when money is involved in a deal, then don't trust anybody, the truth of the matter is that, anybody can cheat, and for some casinos, their desire to make more profit is sometimes higher than their desire to give their customers a fair game to play, this is why I still believe that its very possible for some game providers, casinos to cheat, most especially, on games where the majority of gamblers don't know the game mechanics or how it functions.

To be honest, whenever I have played roulette it has always happened to me that I always seek to play with 0 and 00, I don't know, but they are the numbers that I always play and I like when there are many people in roulette and they can play at the same time, because my chances of winning increase, so it could be said that yes, they may be weaknesses but those weaknesses can become strengths, and that's what I did when I started in physical casinos,of course things change when they play in a casino online, the strategies change for me, it should be played more generally.

When we do play then it would really be just that normal that we do really have that kind of strategy on which we would really be tending to stick out because we do really believe that we could really be having that luck and advantage but well all of those things are just hunches or really that having the intuition but on the time that everything doesnt really work then this is the time we would really make out some adjustments which it would really be that normal. As long we do really enjoy on what we are doing then what that matter the most.

In the talks about possible rigging up the game or whats shown on op then it could be possible but its really that impossible that it wont really be busted up by those people who do able to see some oddness
of those  ball jumps or on how it do moves.I dont know on how it would be applied into those online roulette which we know that it cant be applied unless if those programs or codes are really that
intended on giving out disadvantage into its players but for physical then i didnt really expect that this one could really be possible basing up on the video where there are
triggers on which making the ball sticks into a particular color or number. 

[paxmao]

It's important to be cautious when it comes to claims of casinos manipulating roulette or any other casino game. The truth is that casinos have measures in place to prevent cheating, and any attempts to manipulate may have legal consequences, or, at minimum, may make you loose your earning and have issues withdrawing money. Bear in mind the vast majority of roulette games are fair and operate based on random chance.

[tusandii]

It's important to be cautious when it comes to claims of casinos manipulating roulette or any other casino game. The truth is that casinos have measures in place to prevent cheating, and any attempts to manipulate may have legal consequences, or, at minimum, may make you loose your earning and have issues withdrawing money. Bear in mind the vast majority of roulette games are fair and operate based on random chance.

Indeed, not all Roulette games or other games in the casino involve acts of manipulation, but there are some casinos that do carry out these actions and the average is a small casino that has the aim of cheating from the start.
If in a big casino I'm sure they can be relied on because they really maintain the trust of customers and also maintain a good reputation but if in a small casino I'm not sure I can rely on it and trust it too much.
It is true that most Roulette operates based on random chance, but if the numbers that come out can be the same sequentially then the gamblers who play there must have the thought that the game has been manipulated.
I know claiming that casinos carry out acts of manipulation is not a good thing and we have to be careful, but a sense of suspicion about things that don't make sense is normal, in my opinion, friend.

[Solosanz]

It's important to be cautious when it comes to claims of casinos manipulating roulette or any other casino game. The truth is that casinos have measures in place to prevent cheating, and any attempts to manipulate may have legal consequences, or, at minimum, may make you loose your earning and have issues withdrawing money. Bear in mind the vast majority of roulette games are fair and operate based on random chance.

This is why the most important thing is only gamble on an old and reputable third party providers, the risk of the games are manipulated or rigged are very low since they've been audited. There have been few third party providers get excluded by top casinos because they found the providers have a rigged game. More importantly people need to gamble for entertain, not for making money or source of income.

[Dunamisx]

No secrets that could be hidden like forever, if there's a smoke then there's fire on which it might be caught by now but on the right time there would be leaks that a certain company or platform is cheating out their users and if this issue would blown out then anticipate that it would scatter out like wildfire and there's no way on stopping it and as an owner then you might be able to benefit on making easy money through cheating up users then it would be an over line for you.

Most especially her in the forum, it's very hard for any scam to rein for long here before it gets busted and I am sure this also will result in the same thing, just as you have rightly said, whenever there is a smoke, there must definitely be a fire so is scam accustions, whenever you hear of them, it then means that casino has some characteristic that is not legit unless on few occasions were there can come out clean.

We have one or two casinos that have been busted in this manner before here in the forum, even if the never get caught outside the forum, but one can not hard bad character for long and I'm the long run everything they're worked for to build the scammy casino will probably be in vain since there may end up in jail in the case against them is proven in court.

In everything that we do, truth must always be involved in other for us to enjoy them lasting, those that were built under deceit may last only but for a while, we've seen many casinos that started well but ended the wrong and bad way because their real standard was not maintained when they started initially, all these among other challenges make some gamblers finds it difficult to trust some casino especially the newly established ones because they were afraid of confiding trust in them, we should learn to present things exactly the way they are.

[TheGreatPython]

I find this interesting as there a way in order to manipulate roulettes. With the technology used and the materials placed on the board, I find it very intriguing that certain factors can help manipulate the outcome in order to gain a big advantage for the casino to play.

Is there some verified information about this? I am very interested to read more as it can lead to serious manipulation that may hold the casino accountable, if proven guilty. Though this may be the case, I still find roulettes intimidating in nature due to the luck that is involved in this type of game.

I'm personally not a fan of roulette and I think there are much better games that one can play and try their luck which might provide better results than roulette since there are a lot of outcomes and it is very difficult to get it right, maybe it is not the same for everyone but I really find it difficult and annoying sometimes.

About the manipulation, I don't think there is any verifiable proof of these claims, and if there was, I doubt if this wouldn't be a case being handled by lawyers already since if a casino is cheating their players this way, they need to be closed down.

[khaled0111]

Well, I don't even think this is true, a casino that gets a lot of customers already earns a lot of money since the house mostly wins and casinos are always in profit, why would they need to cheat their players only to get some money and obviously, if a casino continues doing that, they will probably get caught some day.

You are right if we were talking about real casinos, they won't want risk their reputation for pennies. But the truth is that those scammers don't actually run casinos (company) with a real team but mostly a scammer or two who bought a cheap ready-made script and integrated few fake slot games into it. The whole operation won't cost more than few hundreds dollars. Their plan is to scam as many customers as possible and vanish immediately after they get exposed, then rinse and repeat with a new name and new design.

[seoincorporation]

I watched the video, and roulette has been rigged by magnets since a long time ago, but I am still not sure if it is rigged in the live games in casinos. I mean, we have seen some high rollers winning big amounts in the past, and when I say big amounts we are talking about bets bigger than $1 million. But on the other hand as the video show, the ball in the game sometimes has a really weird move.

In the end if the game is rigged that means the high rollers should lose, and since we can't see what numbers are they betting then It is still kind of fair for us. We shouldn't worry about our lows bets.

[wxa7115]

I find this interesting as there a way in order to manipulate roulettes. With the technology used and the materials placed on the board, I find it very intriguing that certain factors can help manipulate the outcome in order to gain a big advantage for the casino to play.

Is there some verified information about this? I am very interested to read more as it can lead to serious manipulation that may hold the casino accountable, if proven guilty. Though this may be the case, I still find roulettes intimidating in nature due to the luck that is involved in this type of game.

I'm personally not a fan of roulette and I think there are much better games that one can play and try their luck which might provide better results than roulette since there are a lot of outcomes and it is very difficult to get it right, maybe it is not the same for everyone but I really find it difficult and annoying sometimes.

About the manipulation, I don't think there is any verifiable proof of these claims, and if there was, I doubt if this wouldn't be a case being handled by lawyers already since if a casino is cheating their players this way, they need to be closed down.

It depends on which kind of casinos you are playing the roulette, if you are doing so online I will admit the roulette can be a very boring game, however if you are gambling at a physical casino the roulette can be one of the most exciting games you can play, as the atmosphere is something that cannot be matched on other gambling games.

Still the accusations of casinos cheating at the roulette have always existed, but very little evidence exists about it despite how easy it could be to prove it, if you take a large enough sample of the numbers that come up at the roulette you could find if there is some sort of irregularity with the rate at which the numbers appear, but if you do not find anything then the only explanation left is that you were unlucky when gambling at the roulette and the casino did not cheated.

[Reatim]

I also have some question in mind sometimes because As a player of roulette(specially lightning roulette) that the behavior of the ball changes and acting abnormal .
there are chances that it is already in a number but suddenly changing to another before it stopped.
made me think that there are some cheating happening , though i am not a high roller yet this is for me some kind of wrong not mentioning that sometimes it comes to my advantage.
maybe this is really in the online casino nowadays as high technology is taking place anywhere and everywhere .

[mindrust]

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do you think, this is possible or they are already doing it? popular game providers like evolution, pragmatic, etc.

I don't think they need these tricks to win against the players. The math behind these games already gives a major advantage to the casinos. Maybe some casinos are doing it and I would believe that. It is because there are many greedy cheating players among us and it wouldn't be surprising if some casinos are also greedy cheating fucks. Who knows what the online casinos are doing. Most of them are provably honest but what about those aren't? I guess we should go to a casino only if are sure of their honesty.

[btc78]

Earlier I was curious about Roulette so that made me enter site to play it.
But it seems that Roulette is a slightly crazy game for now.
The numbers are indeed random, but there are statistics on the percentage of the number column which has a more profitable chance, but the statistics do not really guarantee the number the ball will occupy when it stops.
I played for a while and only saw small wins and no big wins at all for gamblers who also bet there.

That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.

[tusandii]

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That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.

But this type of roulette game used to give me a sizable win where the number I bet was placed in the multiplier and that number succeeded in becoming the number occupied by the ball that stopped spinning, but now it's more difficult than I imagined.
Even though it's hard to win, I can't really assume that some of these games have been rigged because we ourselves don't know how it really happened.
Instead of thinking about things that are not clear, I prefer to move on to other games that can provide fun and can be relied on.

[danadc]

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That is what called Lightning game mate , those highlighted numbers are the given for big bonuses.
but also like what said in the OP , every game in online gambling now ahs a chance of rigging and I hate seeing those.
specially in lightning games that promise really huge amount of wins comparing to normal roulette games.

But this type of roulette game used to give me a sizable win where the number I bet was placed in the multiplier and that number succeeded in becoming the number occupied by the ball that stopped spinning, but now it's more difficult than I imagined.
Even though it's hard to win, I can't really assume that some of these games have been rigged because we ourselves don't know how it really happened.
Instead of thinking about things that are not clear, I prefer to move on to other games that can provide fun and can be relied on.

I have played roulette and I really like it, I think you have a better chance of winning than a slot machine, I like to bet only on colors and 0, it seems to me that they are the safest bets and I reduce the chances of losing, I think I have more option to win when I bet on a color and on 0, because somehow a color has to fall or else the zero falls, so that is something that I learned by myself, I don't know if it is in the best options to play, but in I have tried roulette when I only bet on certain numbers my probability of losing is much higher, and I want to always win, I think we all want to win and if those options can be increased it is better.