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April 29, 2023, 05:18:36 PM |
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For me, web3.0 casinos are the ones where you can connect the decentralized wallet and play, as well as play with deposits and the centralized system, I don't know if I'm wrong, but web3 casinos are promoting them a lot as if it were the saint Grail, the truth is that I still trust the old casinos like freebitcoin, in duelbits which I consider to be very good, for me all this is happening as a fad, where everyone wants to interact in order to have good results, but I prefer that casinos integrate web3 to see how it goes, but the old ones.
Did you actually refer to freebitco.in as a casino? If yes, then you should know that it is actually not a casino but a faucet from its origin, it started adding more and more features later on when it got a pretty high user base, the only gambling game that they have or have always had is a dice game which they always had in their website. And you are surely right that a web3 casino is supposed to have a wallet connecting option for players to connect their wallets and play directly without having to register on the website which makes betting on-chain available.
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April 29, 2023, 05:42:21 PM |
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Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players. So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?
If you are able to connect your wallet and play then that’s decentralized and probably a web3 site. If you are doubting the site you’re playing with then better to stay away, just look for a real web3 site and you wont regret it. Though I still prefer a centralized site where they have a legitimate license to operate, for me Web3 is still new and still needs a lot of improvements, I don’t want to adopt yet for now.
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April 29, 2023, 07:30:00 PM |
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Any casino that claimed to be decentralized are running the business at its own risk, no casino should claim to be decentralized unless they are operating off the radar or in a country where decentralization is all that matters to them, FED forbid running an unregistered casino and the penalty is very severe.
The web3 name is just an attracting strategy, I have not seen any one casino that's truly decentralized or fully functioning on the web3, many new casinos are looking for a more effective way to attract many gamblers and they have to use what is presently trending in the world today, which is web3, metaverse and gaming and AI.
Any casino owner will proudly do the same today.
A decentralized casino and a centralized casino without a license are basically operating the same way, without paying any taxes and running off the radar and that is the reason why usually see authorities hunting down some casinos that are unregistered and unregulated, so decentralized casinos are probably going to get targeted too. And you are totally right that most of the time, the name of web3 is just used for marketing purposes since it is among the trends that are circulating within the crypto community these days. From personal experience, I've only witnessed 1 decentralized casino in my life, it was announced on this forum though I don't remember the name, it must still be there. When it comes into a business which does involved huge money in terms of incoming and outgoing then it would be understandable that government would really be coming after neither you would really be having a crypto based gambling platform or into those typical casinos that we do know or we do have today. I dont know on how it looks like about having that web3 is totally decentralized on the said way because if we do really see that there's still that authority or someone who does have the control which it is impossible for these platforms or owners on wont to be searched out. Gambling up illegally on the sense that you are going against centralization. In general, decentralization and anonymity does really matters but we know that when it comes to platforms or businesses then people would really be that confident on dealing up with platforms or companies which does have some license because anonymity and decentralization isnt everything. People does really have that likings of feeling of being secured which means that in speaking with casinos online then people would usually be seeking for those who do have license but well having a license isnt a solid indication that you are dealing with a legit casino or platform. You should really be digging deeper if we do speak about making some verification if you are dealing with a legit site or not.
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April 29, 2023, 08:15:10 PM |
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A decentralized casino and a centralized casino without a license are basically operating the same way, without paying any taxes and running off the radar and that is the reason why usually see authorities hunting down some casinos that are unregistered and unregulated, so decentralized casinos are probably going to get targeted too.
You make a valid point. However, there is one key difference between decentralized and centralized casinos that should not be overlooked. Decentralized casinos operate on blockchain technology, which provides an added layer of security. Therefore, the authorities will have a much harder time hunting them or shut them down. The operators of these casinos can easily move their servers to a new location and continue operations as usual. This is not something that traditional casinos can do.
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April 29, 2023, 08:39:55 PM |
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A decentralized casino and a centralized casino without a license are basically operating the same way, without paying any taxes and running off the radar and that is the reason why usually see authorities hunting down some casinos that are unregistered and unregulated, so decentralized casinos are probably going to get targeted too.
You make a valid point. However, there is one key difference between decentralized and centralized casinos that should not be overlooked. Decentralized casinos operate on blockchain technology, which provides an added layer of security. Therefore, the authorities will have a much harder time hunting them or shut them down. The operators of these casinos can easily move their servers to a new location and continue operations as usual. This is not something that traditional casinos can do. You are absolutely correct, shutting down a decentralized casino can only be possible if the entire blockchain which the casino is built upon is shut down, and shutting down a blockchain, like we know so far is close to impossible, if it was, I believe the government, due to their hate for bitcoin, would have moved to shutting down the bitcoin blockchain. Regulators can only succeed in shutting down a casino built on the blockchain, only if the casino is not a completely decentralized casino, like we've seen with some casinos, claiming to be web 3 based, where as in real sense, they are just web 3 like, not web 3 based.
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April 29, 2023, 09:01:17 PM |
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A decentralized casino and a centralized casino without a license are basically operating the same way, without paying any taxes and running off the radar and that is the reason why usually see authorities hunting down some casinos that are unregistered and unregulated, so decentralized casinos are probably going to get targeted too.
You make a valid point. However, there is one key difference between decentralized and centralized casinos that should not be overlooked. Decentralized casinos operate on blockchain technology, which provides an added layer of security. Therefore, the authorities will have a much harder time hunting them or shut them down. The operators of these casinos can easily move their servers to a new location and continue operations as usual. This is not something that traditional casinos can do. You are absolutely correct, shutting down a decentralized casino can only be possible if the entire blockchain which the casino is built upon is shut down, and shutting down a blockchain, like we know so far is close to impossible, if it was, I believe the government, due to their hate for bitcoin, would have moved to shutting down the bitcoin blockchain. Regulators can only succeed in shutting down a casino built on the blockchain, only if the casino is not a completely decentralized casino, like we've seen with some casinos, claiming to be web 3 based, where as in real sense, they are just web 3 like, not web 3 based. ^That is definitely right, it may be hard for them to hunt down because they are decentralized and operate on the blockchain which means that the casinos operate on a decentralized network, and the games and transactions are executed on a distributed network of nodes and servers, rather than on a centralized server. But they still operate within the legal process of the jurisdiction in which they are based. As with any other type of gambling operation. Web3 casinos are still subject to legal and regulatory processes, which can limit their ability to move their operations to a new location. Many jurisdictions have laws that prohibit or regulate online gambling, and operators must comply with these laws if they want to avoid legal penalties or regulatory action.
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April 29, 2023, 09:15:35 PM |
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Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players. So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?
Decentralized casinos are still having a hard time to attract more players, though there’s a lot of projects already that is being owned by the community though its hard to choose for a good project as most of them have the same concept. If the site is not being honest about their real technology, then that’s a red flag for me better to look for alternatives, decentralized platform are still a big concern when it comes to casinos especially with their fairness.
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April 29, 2023, 09:38:07 PM |
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Web3 Casinos, are the casinos that run on blockchains. Most probably decentralized and needs the non-custodial wallet to be connected in order to play the games. Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players. So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?
Decentralized casinos are still having a hard time to attract more players, though there’s a lot of projects already that is being owned by the community though its hard to choose for a good project as most of them have the same concept. If the site is not being honest about their real technology, then that’s a red flag for me better to look for alternatives, decentralized platform are still a big concern when it comes to casinos especially with their fairness. The reason for this is that it is expensive to play since every activity needs to be written and confirmed on the blockchain. We all know every transaction on Blockchain specially the transfer of funds needs a transaction fee. Imagine rolling 3k times and having to pay to the blockchain that many times. It is kinda troublesome and expensive. A player may not lose on the game but obviously, most of the player's profit will go to the transaction fee.
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April 30, 2023, 02:32:44 AM |
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Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players. So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?
I never tried it yet, because as I know that type of site is not supported Bitcoin for deposit. But, if I compare it to like the altcoin decentralization exchange maybe the difference is not far away. we can check the hash if the site is really Decentralized, if not, there is not time to linger there. The biggest thing to tell the difference between them (Decentralized and centralized) gambling sites is a deposit and withdrawal, there is no difference when we play on the game, let's not get into a trap with this, skill and your lucks is an important thing in gambling, even use Decentralized and centralized gambling.
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April 30, 2023, 07:49:07 AM |
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Decentralized casinos are still having a hard time to attract more players, though there’s a lot of projects already that is being owned by the community though its hard to choose for a good project as most of them have the same concept. If the site is not being honest about their real technology, then that’s a red flag for me better to look for alternatives, decentralized platform are still a big concern when it comes to casinos especially with their fairness.
I think most gamblers are don't care with Web 3.0 or decentralization/privacy, that's why they don't mind to submit their KYC on the casino. There are many cons of decentralized casinos: 1. They worried if they have connected their wallet to the casino, their coins will be gone because we had seen so many people lose their coins due to connecting their wallet. 2. Promotions, rakeback, VIP ranks are limited or not implemented by the casino. 3. They feel more comfortable to gamble through login their account than connecting their wallet. 4. They have thought the casino will not last long since the casino will need to follow the regulations and it will ruin the decentralization.
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April 30, 2023, 08:39:50 AM |
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There is actually a topic which I believe was discuss here some time ago where the op was asking if casinos that claim to be web 3.0 projects, are really Web 3.0 or just using the title as a form of advertisement.
Majority of those who commented said that, as of now, web 3.0 casino are very few in number, and are not popular yet, so clearly, most of the casino claiming to be web 3.0 based are nothing but using that to promote their casinos and Win more new customers over.
Web 3.0 equals complete decentralization, even games in a web 3.0 casino should be hosted on-chain, and not on a server controlled by people, if the games listed on the casino are not hosted on-chain through smart contracts, then it simply means that such a casino is not a true web 3.0 casino.
I remember some of its title so I finally found that thread you are talking about in the page 3 of this board. Here it is > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5427484.0 . Web 3's are not new but it's surprising that their numbers are still low and they are not yet popular. Maybe because gamblers don't like them and they still prefer the common casinos that we see nowadays but a real web 3 casino must be decentralized because other web 3 platforms are like that too. If there is a casino that promise to be a web 3 but then ask for a KYC or have a sign up process, those are only fake. I wouldn't trust casinos like that even if they are not a scam because who knows, maybe it is only easy for them to do it later on, as it's easy for them to lie.
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April 30, 2023, 08:48:43 AM |
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Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players. So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?
web3 casino will be like any other casino. There is no need to register an account and deposit any crypto to the casino site separately. this is one of the advantages of Web3 Casino. Here any gambler has to connect his personal wallet and play gambling. But one disadvantage here is that if someone connects the wallet to a scam site then his wallet will be at a high risk of being hacked, so if you give one, as Web3 Casino will make our gambling easier, it will put us at high risk, so I personally am not very interested in Web3 Casino.
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April 30, 2023, 09:35:30 AM |
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Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players. So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?
web3 casino will be like any other casino. There is no need to register an account and deposit any crypto to the casino site separately. this is one of the advantages of Web3 Casino. Here any gambler has to connect his personal wallet and play gambling. But one disadvantage here is that if someone connects the wallet to a scam site then his wallet will be at a high risk of being hacked, so if you give one, as Web3 Casino will make our gambling easier, it will put us at high risk, so I personally am not very interested in Web3 Casino. Web3 Casino ecosystem is a fusion of Businesses between Casino, sports betting, NFT and Decentralized crypto wallets or Dapps. Is an idea for a new iteration of the gambling which incorporates concepts such as decentralization, blockchain technologies, and token-based economics. Google helped as always, this is like some definition. I think that this fusion of businesses is a nice description of Web3 casinos, and in some crypto casinos, we really have a lot of unique features like provably fair games, token-based economics, NFTs, and we ca register and play with crypto wallets or DApps, many deposit options using different chains. Some definitions that can be found online describe "decentralized casinos" as places where people can gamble with crypto, not with "real money". But I don't think that the most popular casinos around are "decentralized", and my searching for "decentralized casinos" gives me the list of popular casinos we all know. So I doubt there is a real decentralized casino around.
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April 30, 2023, 10:23:48 AM |
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Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players. So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?
web3 casino will be like any other casino. There is no need to register an account and deposit any crypto to the casino site separately. this is one of the advantages of Web3 Casino. Here any gambler has to connect his personal wallet and play gambling. But one disadvantage here is that if someone connects the wallet to a scam site then his wallet will be at a high risk of being hacked, so if you give one, as Web3 Casino will make our gambling easier, it will put us at high risk, so I personally am not very interested in Web3 Casino. What's important is if they focus on decentralization, they don't have to ask users for KYC because it will look like a centralized casino so it will be the same as any other casino. Maybe that's what casino owners should pay attention to who say that their casino is web3.0 based so they should avoid that. To avoid hacking, users must have another wallet used only for gambling and no valuable coin assets. We also have to be careful of fraudulent casinos that look like popular ones, so we have to check them before connecting our wallets to play gambling.
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April 30, 2023, 10:25:59 AM |
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Lately we have seen a lot of online casinos that are considering themselves as Web3.0 but in reality it’s just a name, they don’t over a real Decentralized experience for players. So i want to know from you what’s are all the features an online casino should have to be considered as web3.0 casino?
Decentralized casinos are still having a hard time to attract more players, though there’s a lot of projects already that is being owned by the community though its hard to choose for a good project as most of them have the same concept. If the site is not being honest about their real technology, then that’s a red flag for me better to look for alternatives, decentralized platform are still a big concern when it comes to casinos especially with their fairness. I'm not a fan of these Web3 I've been into an investment site where I have to connect my wallet, just lucky that I got alerted that there is a bug on the platform, these Web.3 casinos are not well audited if you're not good at looking at code and the project is new there is high risk of losing your deposit and funds on your wallet. For average players, they prefer centralized casinos because the concept is easy compared to Web3 where there is a risk of bugs and backdoors.
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April 30, 2023, 10:30:32 AM |
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According to my knowledge, web 3.0 is more often known as decentralized or not centralized by anything. So it's quite simple that if a casino uses the web 3.0 casino label it should implement the no KYC feature which can hold on the basis of web 3.0 decentralization and other features that make customers anonymous. But unfortunately some casinos that have web 3.0 casino label do not really adhere to web 3.0 basis and still ask KYC data from customers who want to withdraw large amount of funds. Or maybe a casino that only has a web 3.0 label but doesn't really apply the basics that must be set, the casino uses web 3.0 only to attract the attention of potential customers or just because of the web 3.0 hype which is currently a trend. There is actually a topic which I believe was discuss here some time ago where the op was asking if casinos that claim to be web 3.0 projects, are really Web 3.0 or just using the title as a form of advertisement. Majority of those who commented said that, as of now, web 3.0 casino are very few in number, and are not popular yet, so clearly, most of the casino claiming to be web 3.0 based are nothing but using that to promote their casinos and Win more new customers over. Web 3.0 equals complete decentralization, even games in a web 3.0 casino should be hosted on-chain, and not on a server controlled by people, if the games listed on the casino are not hosted on-chain through smart contracts, then it simply means that such a casino is not a true web 3.0 casino. That's what I mean that most of the casinos that use the web 3.0 model are just promotions and don't really use the original web 3.0 system. Yes it is true that web 3.0 casinos should really use a chain hosting system which makes everything more decentralized without being centralized with anything and only relying on hosting on a predetermined chain. If a casino uses web 3.0 promotion but not a genuine web 3.0 system I think they are failing at that decentralization and are just like normal casinos. Until now I have never come across a truly genuine web 3.0 casino using a web 3.0 basis
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April 30, 2023, 03:04:01 PM |
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I think most gamblers are don't care with Web 3.0 or decentralization/privacy, that's why they don't mind to submit their KYC on the casino.
There are many cons of decentralized casinos: 1. They worried if they have connected their wallet to the casino, their coins will be gone because we had seen so many people lose their coins due to connecting their wallet. 2. Promotions, rakeback, VIP ranks are limited or not implemented by the casino. 3. They feel more comfortable to gamble through login their account than connecting their wallet. 4. They have thought the casino will not last long since the casino will need to follow the regulations and it will ruin the decentralization.
There are pros and cons for every casino whether it's decentralized or centralized, but what you described aren't really cons to be honest. Let me explain, even decentralized casinos can have promotions, rake backs, etc. But they will need to program them well so that they are allocated based on smart contracts. About wallet connecting scams, I think that depends on one's self if how much they've researched about a platform that they are about to use, if they use it without any research, and lose their money, it's definitely their own fault. Lastly, even if a casino is closed by the authorities, a gambler should have no problems since they don't have an account and they have their funds in their wallet.
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April 30, 2023, 04:06:16 PM |
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For me, web3.0 casinos are the ones where you can connect the decentralized wallet and play, as well as play with deposits and the centralized system, I don't know if I'm wrong, but web3 casinos are promoting them a lot as if it were the saint Grail, the truth is that I still trust the old casinos like freebitcoin, in duelbits which I consider to be very good, for me all this is happening as a fad, where everyone wants to interact in order to have good results, but I prefer that casinos integrate web3 to see how it goes, but the old ones.
The current web3 casino is not the real web3 definition because they are not using blockchain for all their games. They are just using the blockchain on the payment system and the rest is just the typical centralized casino you have a separated wallet inside that you don’t have access to private key. Real web3 casino doesn’t require you to deposit and you can bet directly on your wallet using a smart contract on bet of your choice.
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April 30, 2023, 08:38:19 PM |
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For me, web3.0 casinos are the ones where you can connect the decentralized wallet and play, as well as play with deposits and the centralized system, I don't know if I'm wrong, but web3 casinos are promoting them a lot as if it were the saint Grail, the truth is that I still trust the old casinos like freebitcoin, in duelbits which I consider to be very good, for me all this is happening as a fad, where everyone wants to interact in order to have good results, but I prefer that casinos integrate web3 to see how it goes, but the old ones.
The current web3 casino is not the real web3 definition because they are not using blockchain for all their games. They are just using the blockchain on the payment system and the rest is just the typical centralized casino you have a separated wallet inside that you don’t have access to private key. Real web3 casino doesn’t require you to deposit and you can bet directly on your wallet using a smart contract on bet of your choice. this is why players should be careful on what these casinos are advertising about their platform. take time to read their terms and see what they are really offering. check their features and see if they are complying to be a real web3 gambling site. if in any way, you have no full control with your wallet, then that's not web3. you should use your own wallet and it is your own prerogative where or when do you want to play and use your own wallet. maybe, to have a quick overview of the difference of web 2.0 vs web 3.0 based on this - what is web 3.0?
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April 30, 2023, 09:26:32 PM |
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Web3 casinos operate on web3 technology in a way that punters connect their noncustodial wallet to a gambling site in a way that payments are settled on blockchain, unlike the deposit and withdraw on centralized casinos.
Everything in web3 gives advantages to the owner/user itself but since it’s still in a process, we can’t actually give its precise meaning. However, for me, web3 offers a lot of advancements like we don’t have to face problems like KYC since everything that the casino will ask has been input already in our own non-custodial wallet.
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