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May 13, 2023, 10:05:10 AM
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There are already many gamblers who want the same thing as you and unfortunately only a few can afford to be able to stay safe while reducing gambling because gambling is an activity that is difficult to stop because of curiosity and domains that are difficult to stop.
What's more, for those who have truly become an addict, it will be more difficult to reduce it, even forgetting about gambling for a moment will never be possible if someone is already an addict.
That is why it is important for a gambler to limit and reduce the gambling sessions that are carried out in order to avoid excessive gambling addiction.

Yes, it's true. The only thing that can help these gambling addicts is to seek help from the professionals because even if they want to change for the better, it will be so hard for them to take those words into action as they don't have that much strength left to battle their desires towards gambling. That is why it's really much better for us and especially for those who are planning to start their fate towards gambling to view gambling as a form of entertainment and a past time, not a way to earn another money because if that's your way, there's a huge chance that the opposite will be given to you and that is losses.
The help of professionals will have no effect in being able to help gambling addicts quit their addiction.
The main factor for a gambling addict to be able to stop and get better is the family, where if the family always provides support and accompanies him to move towards more positive things and also provides some positive activities such as work or other activities then a addict can feel pleasure and gradually forget gambling.
It's just that it's difficult for gambling addicts to have a family that wants to always help them because this requires a lot of time and extra patience because they have to supervise and direct every action they take.
At first they also thought of gambling as a place of fun and entertainment, but over time, because some money was lost because they lost, they became curious and chased after victory, which made them fall into the gambling pit.
Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.
and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted. And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.

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May 13, 2023, 10:29:44 AM
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Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.
and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted. And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction, and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.
Professional help doesn't work on addiction like the way people perceived it to be, some people go as far as going meet a doctor to get some therapy and also rehabilitation but still, it will end with no positive result and that is what has been the reality, so just as you said, it is better not to get involved in any addictive activities or substance, because withdrawal process is not that easy to achieve on the long run.
But then a change of the environment can help you reduce the hold of addiction on the addicted and this can even go as far as erasing the memory from the victim but the majority of the efforts must come from the individual involved.

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May 13, 2023, 10:55:06 AM
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Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.
and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted. And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction, and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.
Professional help doesn't work on addiction like the way people perceived it to be, some people go as far as going meet a doctor to get some therapy and also rehabilitation but still, it will end with no positive result and that is what has been the reality, so just as you said, it is better not to get involved in any addictive activities or substance, because withdrawal process is not that easy to achieve on the long run.
But then a change of the environment can help you reduce the hold of addiction on the addicted and this can even go as far as erasing the memory from the victim but the majority of the efforts must come from the individual involved.

Any help to be received best is rhe ones that comes through our sincere determination in gambling, we can hire a professional psychologist or metal physiotherapist to engage us on this gambling responsible, but when our mind isbnot turned away from it completely, we will just hear but not act what they have instructed, it is very easy to control and emotion for addiction from the early stages before it escalated to he advanced stages which are likely uncontrollable, change in environment can also help and any other thing that could facilitate gambling irresponsible to be well tackled with, including having access to money to be use for gambling at all times.
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Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.
Professionals can help if the person who is already addicted is willing to admit that he is suffering from addictions,
close relatives and friends are those who can assist him to realize that problem and when the person is ready to
accept it will be easy to cure this as self-will is the best solution to quit away from addictions.
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and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted.
Very difficult as you always have the reason when you are not willing to admit that there's already a problem
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And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.
You can divert your attentions with the help of your love ones' you'll be able to keep yourself busy away from
thinking about any gambling related activities.
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May 13, 2023, 11:07:07 AM
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In as much as a Bitcoin investor spends enough time to study their charts and base their investment on their interpretation of the chart the studied they are far from gambling. But a Bitcoin investor who simply invests because everyone is investing and doesn't even know how to do research on their investment is a gambler.

Gambling (also known as betting or gaming) is the wagering of something of value ("the stakes") on a random event with the intent of winning something else of  value, where instances of strategy are discounted

So where strategy is not adopted or the strategy is not fully certain be it in gambling or Bitcoin investment the fellow is simply a gambler.
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May 13, 2023, 11:13:27 AM
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It is natural that your friends are comparing investing in Bitcoin with gambling, if they have no idea about investing in Bitcoin they will compare Bitcoin and gambling at the same time. A few days ago, Warren Buffett compared Bitcoin to a gambling coin. If a world famous person like Warren Buffett can compare bitcoin to gambling coin then your friends will invest in bitcoin and gambling as same..I don't see anything wrong with the comparison that the game will be the same and of equal value. But apparently Bitcoin and gambling are not the same thing. If you place a bet in gambling you have two possibilities, either you won't win or you lose. But if you invest in bitcoins and save those invested bitcoins for future price rise, you are sure to get profit. Such profits in gamblingIt is not possible to give chances with guaranteed availability.

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May 13, 2023, 11:44:12 AM
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Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.
and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted. And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction, and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.
Professional help doesn't work on addiction like the way people perceived it to be, some people go as far as going meet a doctor to get some therapy and also rehabilitation but still, it will end with no positive result and that is what has been the reality, so just as you said, it is better not to get involved in any addictive activities or substance, because withdrawal process is not that easy to achieve on the long run.
But then a change of the environment can help you reduce the hold of addiction on the addicted and this can even go as far as erasing the memory from the victim but the majority of the efforts must come from the individual involved.
Agreed, doesn't matter how much effort we try to give but it is very difficult to get rid of it at the end unless a gambler can improve his situation in time. However, if people want, it is possible to bring about their own change. Gambling is especially effective if one can change the environment. A gambler's change of environment and location is not very effective in changing his addiction. If a gambler's company changes there can be something significant. But in my opinion, if a gambler can practice responsible gambling without going into such wars, it will be effective for him. If a gambler can control his greediness, he is less likely to become addicted.

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May 13, 2023, 11:58:48 AM
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Professional help only helps a little because there is a time limit in helping, and indeed the most helpful and influential are the people closest to him. Like family, partners, friends and others, because they will always be with us and can help prevent it if they care.
and indeed when we are addicted to something it is very difficult for us to overcome, it is better not to get used to it and in the end it can become addicted. And to limit it we can create new activities that can be done on the sidelines of our busy life, so that we forget about addiction, and all of that there must still be intention and determination for addicts.
Professional help doesn't work on addiction like the way people perceived it to be, some people go as far as going meet a doctor to get some therapy and also rehabilitation but still, it will end with no positive result and that is what has been the reality, so just as you said, it is better not to get involved in any addictive activities or substance, because withdrawal process is not that easy to achieve on the long run.
But then a change of the environment can help you reduce the hold of addiction on the addicted and this can even go as far as erasing the memory from the victim but the majority of the efforts must come from the individual involved.
Agreed, doesn't matter how much effort we try to give but it is very difficult to get rid of it at the end unless a gambler can improve his situation in time. However, if people want, it is possible to bring about their own change. Gambling is especially effective if one can change the environment. A gambler's change of environment and location is not very effective in changing his addiction. If a gambler's company changes there can be something significant. But in my opinion, if a gambler can practice responsible gambling without going into such wars, it will be effective for him. If a gambler can control his greediness, he is less likely to become addicted.
I know that nobody wanted to get caught in addiction but because of some influence from friends and other gamblers, that gonna happen.
The problem now is how to get out of the cage of addiction since we know that it doesn't work easily especially if a gambler doesn't help themselves. Maybe, if we are serious to stick on our limitations and make it a habit from the start, definitely, we don't get into this tough situation.

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May 13, 2023, 01:27:37 PM
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I know that nobody wanted to get caught in addiction but because of some influence from friends and other gamblers, that gonna happen.
The problem now is how to get out of the cage of addiction since we know that it doesn't work easily especially if a gambler doesn't help themselves. Maybe, if we are serious to stick on our limitations and make it a habit from the start, definitely, we don't get into this tough situation.
If we choose to live in an environment of gamblers then don't expect to be able to stop addiction, my friend once exiled himself living in a village without the internet and he really succeeded in getting rid of his gambling addiction, it's really difficult to get rid of gambling addiction but if there is intention then everything will be lost,

But still, as gamblers, always take care of portion and refrain from gambling because when we are used to looking for pleasure in gambling because basically it starts from being happy, it will also end in curiosity, namely curiosity which is the beginning of addiction.  Wink

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May 13, 2023, 01:57:30 PM
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I would say there is no comparison between gambling and investing in Bitcoin. It's not even close to being comparable since gambling is mostly based on luck, while investing in Bitcoin is entirely different. The value of Bitcoin depends on the market demand and supply, and it gains value when more people invest in it which is not the same as gambling.
Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?
That's correct, I can confirm that investing in Bitcoin is much safer than gambling with your money since in most cases, gambling results in losing your money, while Bitcoin investments can be profitable and more secure in the long run.

I asked them to show me prove that they make more from gambling than they lose, none of them showed me, but I prove to them that I hardly have losses investing in Bitcoin lol .
Famz, drop your opinion on this, would you categorize these two as gambling? Because the only winning factor from Bitcoin investment is to just buy low and wait for a high price, it's not the same with casinos. Am I not making sense? I will like to hear from you.
It is unlikely that gamblers would be able to prove they win more than they lose since, deep down they know that they tend to lose more frequently than they win. In some cases, they may have lost a considerable amount of money but are reluctant to discuss it. IMO gambling is not a for a consistency. If you do choose to gamble and happen to win a huge amount of money, it's best to cash out and quit as the biggest threat is greed. Once you give in to it, it can be difficult to stop and may result in significant losses.
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May 13, 2023, 04:04:23 PM
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The more we gamble less the more we get interesting in the world of gambling but its up to us if we can control ourselves as we all know that once we involve in gambling we can not deny the fact that sometimes we will feel like in gambling we are comfortable. So it's up to us if we can control our selves in to a educated gambler that we gamble for the sake of joy and not for earning. Because gambling is for fun not a job.

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May 13, 2023, 04:10:19 PM
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I know that nobody wanted to get caught in addiction but because of some influence from friends and other gamblers, that gonna happen.
The problem now is how to get out of the cage of addiction since we know that it doesn't work easily especially if a gambler doesn't help themselves. Maybe, if we are serious to stick on our limitations and make it a habit from the start, definitely, we don't get into this tough situation.
If we choose to live in an environment of gamblers then don't expect to be able to stop addiction, my friend once exiled himself living in a village without the internet and he really succeeded in getting rid of his gambling addiction, it's really difficult to get rid of gambling addiction but if there is intention then everything will be lost,

But still, as gamblers, always take care of portion and refrain from gambling because when we are used to looking for pleasure in gambling because basically it starts from being happy, it will also end in curiosity, namely curiosity which is the beginning of addiction.  Wink
Exactly, what they have initially thought as mere curiosity end up as their fun play time and then end up with addiction. Most people tend to forget to play it safe and not focus mainly on their game just to expect them to win in the beginning and ended up being frustrasted due to streak losses. The pleasure of earning instantly is difficult to handle specially for those who are easily swayed, and it will take a lot of courage for someone to be able to escape and accept the reality of being addicted.

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May 13, 2023, 05:44:41 PM
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and it will take a lot of courage for someone to be able to escape and accept the reality of being addicted.

this does not only happen with gambling, even people who are consuming alcoholic beverages every day, when someone tells them that they are addicted to alcoholic beverages they deny it and always say that they are fine, that they have control and can stop drinking alcohol in the day and time you want, but when you challenge them and say something like: "so try to stay a week without consuming alcohol" the person will say yes (but they won't say it immediately, only after a lot of insistence will they accept it), but unfortunately it won't take 2 or 3 days for him not to be able to fulfill what he said, he will start consuming alcohol again and will continue to deny that he is addicted to alcohol. this is the same with people addicted to gambling

Because gambling is for fun not a job.

without a doubt this is the part that many people refuse to accept, what happens is that people even say something like: you shouldn't see gambling as a source of income. but they are talking just to please other people, in practice the person who said that is playing in search of profits, and every time he loses he thinks that when he puts more money he will win money, always with illusions

If we choose to live in an environment of gamblers then don't expect to be able to stop addiction, my friend once exiled himself living in a village without the internet and he really succeeded in getting rid of his gambling addiction, it's really difficult to get rid of gambling addiction but if there is intention then everything will be lost,

But still, as gamblers, always take care of portion and refrain from gambling because when we are used to looking for pleasure in gambling because basically it starts from being happy, it will also end in curiosity, namely curiosity which is the beginning of addiction.  Wink

nowadays with the evolution of technologies, I wonder if someone goes to stay in a distant village they won't have access to a telephone and internet and gambling, it's hard to escape technology to avoid gambling, but it doesn't hurt to try , and it is true that staying away from all this for a long time the person manages to overcome the addiction, but we have to see if it will be a temporary or permanent cure

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nowadays with the evolution of technologies, I wonder if someone goes to stay in a distant village they won't have access to a telephone and internet and gambling, it's hard to escape technology to avoid gambling, but it doesn't hurt to try , and it is true that staying away from all this for a long time the person manages to overcome the addiction, but we have to see if it will be a temporary or permanent cure

An addiction is a problem in the brain. You can travel anywhere but you will bring your addicted brain with you.

You will try to do anything to get your fix.

What might help instead is to have some purpose, something to look forward to. Once you have that you realize your addiction is holding you back from achieving that goal, and you naturally try to cut back or stop completely.

You need to swap addictions, get addicted to something positive instead.

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May 14, 2023, 01:59:28 AM
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nowadays with the evolution of technologies, I wonder if someone goes to stay in a distant village they won't have access to a telephone and internet and gambling, it's hard to escape technology to avoid gambling, but it doesn't hurt to try , and it is true that staying away from all this for a long time the person manages to overcome the addiction, but we have to see if it will be a temporary or permanent cure
This will not work, as an example those which are addicted to a specific drug if for some reason they are unable to find it will simply begin to intoxicate themselves with another drug in order to satisfy their addiction, and gambling addiction is the same, even if a person moved into an isolated village with no internet and in which gambling was forbidden, they will still find a way to gamble in that scenario and keep their addiction going, so as you can see an addiction is not something from which you can run, and instead it is something you need to face head on and overcome it with your will.
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The help of professionals will have no effect in being able to help gambling addicts quit their addiction.
The main factor for a gambling addict to be able to stop and get better is the family, where if the family always provides support and accompanies him to move towards more positive things and also provides some positive activities such as work or other activities then a addict can feel pleasure and gradually forget gambling.

Families have very important roles to play in helping a gambling addicts get passed his addiction as families are the best comfort of a man since they won't want to disappoint their families but make them see that they're improving.

Professionals are also very important as they're the pro that can use their experience to help the addict in the path that'll he'll help him recover. A professional help has a very strong role to play but the family is the most important of them all.

Gambling addiction is a very strong addiction to stop, it's better to not get addicted initially than thinking you can stop the addiction when it becomes unbearable for you. You mightn't know you're addicted because you'll be enjoying what you're doing even when there are losses.

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May 14, 2023, 06:15:08 AM
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nowadays with the evolution of technologies, I wonder if someone goes to stay in a distant village they won't have access to a telephone and internet and gambling, it's hard to escape technology to avoid gambling, but it doesn't hurt to try , and it is true that staying away from all this for a long time the person manages to overcome the addiction, but we have to see if it will be a temporary or permanent cure
I experienced this few years ago, going to a place away from internet and live peacefully in a village far from city to stop my gambling addiction. I live there for a month to change what I used to because i'm spending too much money in gambling that led to debts. It does work for me maybe because I have the willingness to stop for the sake of my family and forget that chapter of my life.

It's also a lesson for me to not repeat the same mistakes again. It took me 2 years to gamble again, but this time as a discipline gambler and aware of my limitation.

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May 14, 2023, 08:02:37 AM
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nowadays with the evolution of technologies, I wonder if someone goes to stay in a distant village they won't have access to a telephone and internet and gambling, it's hard to escape technology to avoid gambling, but it doesn't hurt to try , and it is true that staying away from all this for a long time the person manages to overcome the addiction, but we have to see if it will be a temporary or permanent cure
This will not work, as an example those which are addicted to a specific drug if for some reason they are unable to find it will simply begin to intoxicate themselves with another drug in order to satisfy their addiction, and gambling addiction is the same, even if a person moved into an isolated village with no internet and in which gambling was forbidden, they will still find a way to gamble in that scenario and keep their addiction going, so as you can see an addiction is not something from which you can run, and instead it is something you need to face head on and overcome it with your will.
I have often said that addiction situations are very difficult to recover from when a person does not have complete determination for what they want. I mean when a gambling addict who does not have a strong desire to recover from his addiction, it will be very difficult even if he goes to any country or remote city there will always be a way to gamble on the grounds that there is no intention to recover.

but for gambling addicts who have thought about the best way to choose to heal themselves without gambling, it is enough in a simple way, often consult with a psychologist and ask for family help to always guide them to recover from their addiction.
so, from this problem, as the OP said, we as gamblers who are not yet gambling addicts must seriously understand the side effects of addiction so that we can control every time we want to gamble. always use a positive mindset towards gambling, for example gambling is just a game of luck.

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May 14, 2023, 02:19:26 PM
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nowadays with the evolution of technologies, I wonder if someone goes to stay in a distant village they won't have access to a telephone and internet and gambling, it's hard to escape technology to avoid gambling, but it doesn't hurt to try , and it is true that staying away from all this for a long time the person manages to overcome the addiction, but we have to see if it will be a temporary or permanent cure
I experienced this few years ago, going to a place away from internet and live peacefully in a village far from city to stop my gambling addiction. I live there for a month to change what I used to because i'm spending too much money in gambling that led to debts. It does work for me maybe because I have the willingness to stop for the sake of my family and forget that chapter of my life.

It's also a lesson for me to not repeat the same mistakes again. It took me 2 years to gamble again, but this time as a disciplined gambler and aware of my limitation.
Be thankful, not everyone can stop gambling addiction, for many its impossible but I guess you are able to do this because you really want to put an end to the addiction, you want a solution and that changes everything.

Those who are addicted to gambling promised themselves to never gamble again but few days later they will go back and gamble again, you have to be in full control of yourself and your life to be able to beat gambling addiction and set things right for yourself.

Many people are just living, they don't know how to be in total control of themselves, those people are the type that use their tongue to achieve their goals, they aren't bold enough to bring a change, you are special @Lienfaye.

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May 14, 2023, 06:17:12 PM
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The more we gamble less the more we get interesting in the world of gambling but its up to us if we can control ourselves as we all know that once we involve in gambling we can not deny the fact that sometimes we will feel like in gambling we are comfortable. So it's up to us if we can control our selves in to a educated gambler that we gamble for the sake of joy and not for earning. Because gambling is for fun not a job.

In order to save yourself from losing money, I think it's not the quantity that matters. You can gamble less and still lose money. The more important thing is money management and the plan with which you enter in gambling. If you know how much money you will put in each game or bet, you have a pre-defined plan on what will be your course of action on a loss or a win, then in that case you will not lose money regardless of the fact that you gamble more often or rarely gamble.

Yeah, I agree that gambling will not give you any fixed earnings, so gambling to have fun is also very important but at the same time, not losing money should be the ultimate goal too.

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