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May 14, 2023, 06:49:17 PM
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The more we gamble less the more we get interesting in the world of gambling but its up to us if we can control ourselves as we all know that once we involve in gambling we can not deny the fact that sometimes we will feel like in gambling we are comfortable. So it's up to us if we can control our selves in to a educated gambler that we gamble for the sake of joy and not for earning. Because gambling is for fun not a job.

In order to save yourself from losing money, I think it's not the quantity that matters. You can gamble less and still lose money. The more important thing is money management and the plan with which you enter in gambling. If you know how much money you will put in each game or bet, you have a pre-defined plan on what will be your course of action on a loss or a win, then in that case you will not lose money regardless of the fact that you gamble more often or rarely gamble.

Yeah, I agree that gambling will not give you any fixed earnings, so gambling to have fun is also very important but at the same time, not losing money should be the ultimate goal too.
You are very correct, and I agree with you, one of the ways to really have a stress free gambling is to only gamble with a fund that is already provisioned for it, making funds available for gambling will ensure that the gambler never end up gambling with funds he or she can't afford to loose.
Though it take special care and discipline, nothing really good, profitable ever comes at a cost that is free, gambling is an activity that should never be depended on as a means of living in terms of finance, gambling should be more or a fun adventure for the gambler, than of a way to make money.

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May 14, 2023, 07:04:52 PM
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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.

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May 14, 2023, 08:05:23 PM
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Gambling addiction is a very strong addiction to stop, it's better to not get addicted initially than thinking you can stop the addiction when it becomes unbearable for you. You mightn't know you're addicted because you'll be enjoying what you're doing even when there are losses.
Crazy people, if the orientation is on fun and continues to make you poor. Maybe when addicted they don't have good thoughts and family is the best solution for the approach to healing. I myself sometimes do gambling but not to the point of addiction, there are limits that I always remember. Even if it is just for fun, but if it continues and continues to lose, it is stupid. I will not take pleasure in my condition of continuing to lose it suicide. So the one that the author expresses is right, they have a different way because we don't succeed in the way that already exists.
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May 14, 2023, 08:19:59 PM
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Gambling addiction is a very strong addiction to stop, it's better to not get addicted initially than thinking you can stop the addiction when it becomes unbearable for you. You mightn't know you're addicted because you'll be enjoying what you're doing even when there are losses.
Crazy people, if the orientation is on fun and continues to make you poor. Maybe when addicted they don't have good thoughts and family is the best solution for the approach to healing. I myself sometimes do gambling but not to the point of addiction, there are limits that I always remember. Even if it is just for fun, but if it continues and continues to lose, it is stupid. I will not take pleasure in my condition of continuing to lose it suicide. So the one that the author expresses is right, they have a different way because we don't succeed in the way that already exists.

If we indulge in excessive enjoyment, develop a gambling addiction, and ultimately cause our families to suffer, that would be unfair. If we enjoy something, we should make sure it isn't having a negative impact on the lives of those around us. Although gambling addiction is intolerable, it is preventable in its early stages.
We should take steps to restrain ourselves if we believe that our urges to gamble are uncontrollable. We shouldn't let our emotions influence the decisions we make. It's crucial to establish our boundaries early on in order to prevent going overboard and using greater sums than we have set aside for gambling. We certainly regret our actions in the long run if we do nothing and limit ourselves from the start.
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May 14, 2023, 08:33:32 PM
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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately, that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.
Exactly,  not many have control over their gambling activities and that is why gambling is said to be a highly addictive activity it is better not to start at all than to want to attempt to gamble less which in most cases is not realistic unless for highly discipline players.

Excessive gambling is always motivated by the greed for making more money or chasing a loss,  but knowing the right time to take a break will help a whole lot and any gambler who is looking to avoid addictions must poses the discipline to know when to take a break and watch back to see what is going on as a result of his overall gambling activities.

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May 14, 2023, 08:53:53 PM
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nowadays with the evolution of technologies, I wonder if someone goes to stay in a distant village they won't have access to a telephone and internet and gambling, it's hard to escape technology to avoid gambling, but it doesn't hurt to try , and it is true that staying away from all this for a long time the person manages to overcome the addiction, but we have to see if it will be a temporary or permanent cure
This will not work, as an example those which are addicted to a specific drug if for some reason they are unable to find it will simply begin to intoxicate themselves with another drug in order to satisfy their addiction, and gambling addiction is the same, even if a person moved into an isolated village with no internet and in which gambling was forbidden, they will still find a way to gamble in that scenario and keep their addiction going, so as you can see an addiction is not something from which you can run, and instead it is something you need to face head on and overcome it with your will.
Well, I do agree with you that you cannot escape your addiction if you are roaming free no matter where you are, you will still find a way to fulfill the urge that keeps tickling you from the inside, but, a will doesn't help in a case where addiction has reached a very high level, and to overcome that, one needs to be isolated but not in a village or with total freedom.

One will need help from their close ones to keep them away from the addiction and take good care of them with other things so that they can get over the addiction and this needs to be done for some time until the urge starts to go away slowly and steadily.

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May 16, 2023, 04:12:23 PM
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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.
People don't realize that they are getting addicted, it's true. I've seen it myself when some people start gambling initially, they say they are in total control and are not spending much, and when they start using a lot of money on gambling and if you tell them that you think they are getting addicted to it and they refuse and tell you there is nothing like that.

But sooner or later when they spend almost everything they have and have nothing left to spend but the urge doesn't end, that is when they realize that they have already become addicted and now are unable to get out of it.

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May 18, 2023, 04:18:41 AM
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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.
People don't realize that they are getting addicted, it's true. I've seen it myself when some people start gambling initially, they say they are in total control and are not spending much, and when they start using a lot of money on gambling and if you tell them that you think they are getting addicted to it and they refuse and tell you there is nothing like that.

But sooner or later when they spend almost everything they have and have nothing left to spend but the urge doesn't end, that is when they realize that they have already become addicted and now are unable to get out of it.
Which is why we must always approach any activity in which an addiction is a remote possibility with caution, the majority of the gamblers out there never get addicted and they can gamble responsibly, but there is a small number of gamblers out there which develop some issues, and as such if from the very beginning we are guarded against this possibility, then it will become even more unlikely or it could even become impossible for us to become addicted, something that is key as once you become addicted to anything overcoming that addiction becomes incredibly challenging.
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May 18, 2023, 07:42:54 AM
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Which is why we must always approach any activity in which an addiction is a remote possibility with caution, the majority of the gamblers out there never get addicted and they can gamble responsibly, but there is a small number of gamblers out there which develop some issues, and as such if from the very beginning we are guarded against this possibility, then it will become even more unlikely or it could even become impossible for us to become addicted, something that is key as once you become addicted to anything overcoming that addiction becomes incredibly challenging.

It also initially depends on the ability of a person to handle money, the ability to plan a budget is a very important property at the same time, because if you allocate a certain (small) amount for gambling, then it will never become a problem for you if you lose it. And if you manage to increase it and thus it will be your game deposit for a long time, then there will simply be no problems with addiction and reasons for big losses.

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May 18, 2023, 08:09:18 AM
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I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.
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Stupid people often think they are smarter than other people because they feel that they have more knowledge than others, even though they only have a little knowledge about it, and that's your friend. Investing and gambling are different, gambling is when you put money into something and hope that it will bring you the jackpot - you just hope that luck will be on your side. But investing is when you buy an asset with research and see the use cases of the asset and its potential in the future, you don't rely on luck here, what you rely on is your logic and the research you used before investing in this asset. So it's different between gambling and investing. But sometimes people who invest in crypto often gamble on their assets, and that has been proven in the past trend of NFTs and Defi, where many people bought shittokens and made high profits from it.

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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.

We can still gambles and stay safe, ask me how and i will tell, gambling needs a disciplined kind of lifestyle that must be made with caution, not everything the eyes see it must get attracted to, there's a way we can limit our addiction to gambling if we truly intends to do so, there's always a way we can gamble responsibly without having a negative impact in our life, this is a game of freedom, it's a choice we make while gambling, if to have fun or make money.
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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.

We can still gambles and stay safe, ask me how and i will tell, gambling needs a disciplined kind of lifestyle that must be made with caution, not everything the eyes see it must get attracted to, there's a way we can limit our addiction to gambling if we truly intends to do so, there's always a way we can gamble responsibly without having a negative impact in our life, this is a game of freedom, it's a choice we make while gambling, if to have fun or make money.

I agree with this. Setting up limitations is one of the key factors to avoid being addicted in gambling. If you are disciplined enough to say no to your urges to gamble especially the moment you don't have enough fund to do so, it can save you from a lot of trouble such as from the trouble of borrowing money and eventually be burdened by piled up debts because of bad gambling habits. If you really want to enjoy gambling's benefit without experiencing the cons of it, then put up self-restraint and behave like a responsible player will do. Do not be controlled and tricked by your emotions and cravings to play and bet, otherwise, you'll just get lost.

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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.
Small bets can only be temporary because after experiencing the fun of playing gambling, people can be tempted to increase the stakes so that their wins can also be bigger. But if they lose, the loss will also be huge, and most are not ready to accept that big defeat.

They can avoid that big loss by continuing to gamble with small bets. But that is if they can still follow the limits because many lose them after a few rounds. They think it is their lucky day to try to raise the stakes. But that's not a good idea.

 
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It also initially depends on the ability of a person to handle money, the ability to plan a budget is a very important property at the same time, because if you allocate a certain (small) amount for gambling, then it will never become a problem for you if you lose it. And if you manage to increase it and thus it will be your game deposit for a long time, then there will simply be no problems with addiction and reasons for big losses.

This discipline is not easy to achieve for some people, even myself sometimes get out of control. For some people, they play with minimal money, the key of the players mostly they are decided to stops right away and withdraws his money. There are also those who continue to play, but they have already withdrawn 2-3x the amount of the deposit made. So when he loses out of the remaining winnings, he still earns money. In case they lose, the real challenge will be come, some of them trying to get another win, and forget about to handle his money.

The best suggestion when we are lose after deposit is take a rest from gambling, at least for one week. I got this inside from Indonesian member of this forum.

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The more we gamble less the more we get interesting in the world of gambling but its up to us if we can control ourselves as we all know that once we involve in gambling we can not deny the fact that sometimes we will feel like in gambling we are comfortable. So it's up to us if we can control our selves in to a educated gambler that we gamble for the sake of joy and not for earning. Because gambling is for fun not a job.

In order to save yourself from losing money, I think it's not the quantity that matters. You can gamble less and still lose money. The more important thing is money management and the plan with which you enter in gambling. If you know how much money you will put in each game or bet, you have a pre-defined plan on what will be your course of action on a loss or a win, then in that case you will not lose money regardless of the fact that you gamble more often or rarely gamble.

Yeah, I agree that gambling will not give you any fixed earnings, so gambling to have fun is also very important but at the same time, not losing money should be the ultimate goal too.
You are very correct, and I agree with you, one of the ways to really have a stress free gambling is to only gamble with a fund that is already provisioned for it, making funds available for gambling will ensure that the gambler never end up gambling with funds he or she can't afford to loose.
Though it take special care and discipline, nothing really good, profitable ever comes at a cost that is free, gambling is an activity that should never be depended on as a means of living in terms of finance, gambling should be more or a fun adventure for the gambler, than of a way to make money.

Yes and as a gambler we will make sure that we can control ourselves and focus for fun but in reality there are many gamblers who are in addiction and they cant control themselves to gamble anytime. Which is still okay if they don't have their own family and they are rich enough. But if you are in a middle stage of life then it's better to gamble for fun and use our extra money in order to prevent addiction and lost more money.
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I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.
Your friends don't want to hear the truth about bitcoin because, in my opinion, they are gambling addicts who believe that bitcoin cannot provide them with the money they regularly win from gambling. For this reason, I believe that no matter what you explain to them about bitcoin, they won't agree with you, especially if you say that it requires a lot of time investment and that you must wait a very long time before making money from it. They won't even bother to look at it.
However, as long as you haven't invested in other shitcoins that will even cause you to lose more than a gambler, investing in bitcoin is plainly distinct from gambling.

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I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.
Your friends don't want to hear the truth about bitcoin because, in my opinion, they are gambling addicts who believe that bitcoin cannot provide them with the money they regularly win from gambling. For this reason, I believe that no matter what you explain to them about bitcoin, they won't agree with you, especially if you say that it requires a lot of time investment and that you must wait a very long time before making money from it. They won't even bother to look at it.
However, as long as you haven't invested in other shitcoins that will even cause you to lose more than a gambler, investing in bitcoin is plainly distinct from gambling.
People need to learn when to fight their battles, while there are some people out there which take the time  to promote bitcoin to anyone that listens to them, I think that in most cases this is a waste of time, people will adopt bitcoin on their own when they are ready, so a bunch of people that think that investing or trading bitcoin is the same as gambling simply are not ready and we must not waste our time with them, as even if you took the effort to explain to them why bitcoin is different and they seemed to agree with you, as soon as you leave they will go back to their previous beliefs anyway.
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May 21, 2023, 07:11:20 PM
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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.
Some people actually live behind the misconception of actually taking gambling as a means of making income and those set of people are just entwined to gamble out their money everyday regardless of the losses that they might enquire, they are blinded by the fact  they can make continuous profit even if they lose and this type of thought in gambling can never be reduced even if they think to gamble less.
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I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Still, I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.

Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?

I asked them to show me prove that they make more from gambling than they lose, none of them showed me, but I prove to them that I hardly have losses investing in Bitcoin lol .

Famz, drop your opinion on this, would you categorize these two as gambling? Because the only winning factor from Bitcoin investment is to just buy low and wait for a high price, it's not the same with casinos. Am I not making sense? I will like to hear from you.

Realistically some people have low self control and the best way for them to approach gambling is to avoid it altogether. Trying to control or limit it will not work for most people, because when you're in the moment it's too easy to forgot all the restrictions that you planned around it. People also often misjudge or misrepresent their winning streak as you describe, they only remember their last big wins but forget all of the little losses that outweigh them. People are much more comfortable playing along with the illusion and allowing their own brains to trick them, it can often be a coping mechanism that is not even intentional - nobody likes losing money because it hurts or might mean you are foolish, so it is mental damage control.


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May 21, 2023, 10:58:35 PM
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I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Still, I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.

Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?

I asked them to show me prove that they make more from gambling than they lose, none of them showed me, but I prove to them that I hardly have losses investing in Bitcoin lol .

Famz, drop your opinion on this, would you categorize these two as gambling? Because the only winning factor from Bitcoin investment is to just buy low and wait for a high price, it's not the same with casinos. Am I not making sense? I will like to hear from you.

Realistically some people have low self control and the best way for them to approach gambling is to avoid it altogether. Trying to control or limit it will not work for most people, because when you're in the moment it's too easy to forgot all the restrictions that you planned around it. People also often misjudge or misrepresent their winning streak as you describe, they only remember their last big wins but forget all of the little losses that outweigh them. People are much more comfortable playing along with the illusion and allowing their own brains to trick them, it can often be a coping mechanism that is not even intentional - nobody likes losing money because it hurts or might mean you are foolish, so it is mental damage control.
Those little losses would really be ignored and would really be just simply be skipped or forgotten on the time that the next roll would be a win, no matter whether it would really be just a small or big win on which
those feeling of anxiety and stress would be wiped away on the time that you would really be seeing greens and this is the most common concept or scenario on which we could able to see.
Getting safe but engaging with gambling cant really be that possible. If you do want to stay safe then you shouldnt really be gambling at all. It is really just that a matter of your choice
and preference on a certain individual because not all would really be having that the same level of risks appetite when it comes to this matter.
Gambling is for fun and there's no other purpose of it but people do really goes into a certain extent which these things  turns out to be their money making machine
which it do ends up on a disaster.

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