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May 21, 2023, 11:30:58 PM
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I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Still, I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.

Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?
Since it is own perception, you don't need to make it too serious. If they believe that investing in Bitcoin is like gambling, let them trust their assumptions. You just need to tell them the truth once. If they refuse it, then you don't need to argue about it anymore. It is difficult to argue with people who are not open-minded, you will get nothing.

They won't accept that playing gambling may end up with negative results. They are not aware that they are addicts, which that proves they don't realize the negative results/impacts. Even if you explain with any reason, I doubt you will make them understand the difference.

My suggestion, you just need to stop arguing with them.  Cheesy


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May 22, 2023, 04:14:43 AM
 #282

I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Whatever thing you overdo is bad and could lead you to addiction, let alone when it comes to gambling or trading, we really need to do it with deciplined mind, if we really want to be profitable. One should have rules, state or put down those rules and how to follow it, which should involve the total number of games one should play in a day/week , number of loses which you would have and consider taking a break in order to avoid excessive betting.
When a gambler has enough bankroll and keeps losing in the gambling, the chance of losing that bankroll is so high. It is not possible to say when a gambler becomes addicted. However, excessive losses and high winnings can lead to gambling addiction. A gambler must follow a routine. Though it is very difficult to maintain the rules. Because we often don't prioritize these things when we are gambling. when we lose in gambling we remember these things. But the main point is that we should take precautions before any accident happens.
It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.

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May 22, 2023, 05:20:32 AM
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I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Still, I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.

Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?
Since it is own perception, you don't need to make it too serious. If they believe that investing in Bitcoin is like gambling, let them trust their assumptions. You just need to tell them the truth once. If they refuse it, then you don't need to argue about it anymore. It is difficult to argue with people who are not open-minded, you will get nothing.

They won't accept that playing gambling may end up with negative results. They are not aware that they are addicts, which that proves they don't realize the negative results/impacts. Even if you explain with any reason, I doubt you will make them understand the difference.

My suggestion, you just need to stop arguing with them.  Cheesy


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And then we have our old friend Gambling, a greased pole if there ever was one. Some climb for the sheer thrill, some for a mental vacation, and some, unfortunately, can't let go. But isn't this the same song and dance with any guilty pleasure? Here's a left-field pitch. Picture schools cranking out lessons on financial literacy, risk-taking, and spotting the gold at the end of the rainbow! Can you envision a world where young minds are molded to invest with precision, be it in crypto or elsewhere?

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May 22, 2023, 07:05:04 PM
 #284

I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Whatever thing you overdo is bad and could lead you to addiction, let alone when it comes to gambling or trading, we really need to do it with deciplined mind, if we really want to be profitable. One should have rules, state or put down those rules and how to follow it, which should involve the total number of games one should play in a day/week , number of loses which you would have and consider taking a break in order to avoid excessive betting.
When a gambler has enough bankroll and keeps losing in the gambling, the chance of losing that bankroll is so high. It is not possible to say when a gambler becomes addicted. However, excessive losses and high winnings can lead to gambling addiction. A gambler must follow a routine. Though it is very difficult to maintain the rules. Because we often don't prioritize these things when we are gambling. when we lose in gambling we remember these things. But the main point is that we should take precautions before any accident happens.
It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.


Yes, I definitely agree. When playing gambling activities, we should just take enough with us so that we can stop our activities immediately if our capital runs out and in that way, we can avoid from spending too much especially if we're already in a lose streak and we have that certain feeling where we feel an urge to get those money back when in-fact that is surely an almost impossible thing to do because all gambling activities are designed to make the house in the advantageous side. Thus, overspending will likely get us into an unwanted situation that we surely don't want to be in.

 
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May 22, 2023, 09:20:28 PM
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It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.

I think this case is dependent on the self-control or the discipline of the player it has nothing to do about the amount of money available in the bankroll.  Even with a huge bankroll if a player knows the consequences of indulging too much in gambling and has a strong personal discipline, I bet the guy will stop before his bankroll is depleted and in the contrary, those who have no self-discipine will keep on playing until he runs out of money.

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May 22, 2023, 09:36:27 PM
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It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.

I think this case is dependent on the self-control or the discipline of the player it has nothing to do about the amount of money available in the bankroll.  Even with a huge bankroll if a player knows the consequences of indulging too much in gambling and has a strong personal discipline, I bet the guy will stop before his bankroll is depleted and in the contrary, those who have no self-discipine will keep on playing until he runs out of money.

self-discipline indeed plays a big role on how a gambler will form his habits towards this activity. i can agree that no matter how big your bankroll is, if you have no control of yourself, you will always end up broke. but if you have small bankroll but you know your limits, then you can even go home with some winnings.
if you think you are starting to go deep and out of control, give yourself a lil break and contemplate on your life. what you wanted to do and if it is what you wanted to do. sometimes you only need self-reflection to wake up from the reality and change course for the better.

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May 22, 2023, 09:58:51 PM
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It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.

I think this case is dependent on the self-control or the discipline of the player it has nothing to do about the amount of money available in the bankroll.  Even with a huge bankroll if a player knows the consequences of indulging too much in gambling and has a strong personal discipline, I bet the guy will stop before his bankroll is depleted and in the contrary, those who have no self-discipine will keep on playing until he runs out of money.

self-discipline indeed plays a big role on how a gambler will form his habits towards this activity. i can agree that no matter how big your bankroll is, if you have no control of yourself, you will always end up broke. but if you have small bankroll but you know your limits, then you can even go home with some winnings.
if you think you are starting to go deep and out of control, give yourself a lil break and contemplate on your life. what you wanted to do and if it is what you wanted to do. sometimes you only need self-reflection to wake up from the reality and change course for the better.
Not only on gambling but also in other things as well on which self control and really be aware on what are the things that they've been dealing with. We know on how risky gambling is and so as with other things which does impose risks too but not that much in similar with gambling.If you do want on being safe then dont gamble at all and if you do want to some enjoyment or leisure then it would really be depending
on you whether you would engage into gambling or not.

There are really just that people who cant really just bare out on the risks on what gambling could give, but does want to earn or get some win?  Cheesy
You would be needing to take risks for you to win something but on an entertaining manner and this is where people would make out some choice
whether they would be dealing with gambling or not.

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May 23, 2023, 08:05:44 PM
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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.
Some people actually live behind the misconception of actually taking gambling as a means of making income and those set of people are just entwined to gamble out their money everyday regardless of the losses that they might enquire, they are blinded by the fact  they can make continuous profit even if they lose and this type of thought in gambling can never be reduced even if they think to gamble less.
Ironically, their misconception doesn't break even after losing money every day instead of getting any gains which is basically not how earning an income works.  Smiley They still keep gambling with the same misconception that they can make money from gambling when they are clearly losing money to it and they are so lost that they don't realize it.

Seeing the reality and believing it becomes hard for some people sometimes, the same is with such kinds of gamblers. They know no stopping at any cost and will also not leave being stubborn about their thoughts, which are not right Smiley.

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May 24, 2023, 03:40:06 AM
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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.
Some people actually live behind the misconception of actually taking gambling as a means of making income and those set of people are just entwined to gamble out their money everyday regardless of the losses that they might enquire, they are blinded by the fact  they can make continuous profit even if they lose and this type of thought in gambling can never be reduced even if they think to gamble less.

In reality, gambling less does not work for someone who has problems. An occasional, moderate gambler may decide to gamble less and succed in it. But someone who has reached the point of getting out of control, of losing more than he could afford, several times, even going into debt to afford to continue gambling, his only way out is to quit gambling cold turkey. And by seeking help, usually psychological help.

In order to avoid such extremes, it is usually helpful to understand how odds work in the casino, some statistics and variance. This leads to a rational understanding of the subject that prevents going into an emotional trance seeking to win more when one has taken a big win or, conversely, to keep betting desperately trying to chase their losses.

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May 24, 2023, 05:54:32 AM
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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.
Some people actually live behind the misconception of actually taking gambling as a means of making income and those set of people are just entwined to gamble out their money everyday regardless of the losses that they might enquire, they are blinded by the fact  they can make continuous profit even if they lose and this type of thought in gambling can never be reduced even if they think to gamble less.
Ironically, their misconception doesn't break even after losing money every day instead of getting any gains which is basically not how earning an income works.  Smiley They still keep gambling with the same misconception that they can make money from gambling when they are clearly losing money to it and they are so lost that they don't realize it.

Seeing the reality and believing it becomes hard for some people sometimes, the same is with such kinds of gamblers. They know no stopping at any cost and will also not leave being stubborn about their thoughts, which are not right Smiley.
Those people could never learn from that misconception, instead would still gamble and try to make money. They really don't realize what they are doing is wrong and need to fix it before becoming a full-blown gambling addiction.

And for those who don't agree with us, we can never make them see the difference because they will stick with it without wanting to change it or accept it. And we can only let them be like that and see the reality that will happen later.

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May 24, 2023, 06:29:20 AM
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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.
Some people actually live behind the misconception of actually taking gambling as a means of making income and those set of people are just entwined to gamble out their money everyday regardless of the losses that they might enquire, they are blinded by the fact  they can make continuous profit even if they lose and this type of thought in gambling can never be reduced even if they think to gamble less.
Ironically, their misconception doesn't break even after losing money every day instead of getting any gains which is basically not how earning an income works.  Smiley They still keep gambling with the same misconception that they can make money from gambling when they are clearly losing money to it and they are so lost that they don't realize it.

Seeing the reality and believing it becomes hard for some people sometimes, the same is with such kinds of gamblers. They know no stopping at any cost and will also not leave being stubborn about their thoughts, which are not right Smiley.
Those people could never learn from that misconception, instead would still gamble and try to make money. They really don't realize what they are doing is wrong and need to fix it before becoming a full-blown gambling addiction.

And for those who don't agree with us, we can never make them see the difference because they will stick with it without wanting to change it or accept it. And we can only let them be like that and see the reality that will happen later.

There is one good reason why there is this misconception and that is that while we lose we get the rage and we say we will stop gambling and will not play anymore,will stick to a preliminary budget and no matter what I will stick to it but as soon as some little time passes there is that "microbe" that is deep inside our roots that says let's try one more time and this time we will hit it big.This is what keeps gamblers coming back and as such is very difficult to control this type of emotion and it can be learned only with passing of time,for me it took 3 years to put this emotion in control so it is very easy to say but very difficult to do.

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May 24, 2023, 08:17:46 AM
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It is very difficult to make a player who has a lot of money understand that he should stop, because honestly if he has a Backup for his other needs it is very Difficult, what is Really Difficult is to play with money that should not be lost, because if If you lose, other things can get out of balance, and the responsibility you have becomes pressure, for that reason it is always Healthier to play in a casino with little money, but that little money is willing to lose and that criteria will be respected later not to put more money and risk the one that has already been committed before,because that is where the addiction begins.

I think this case is dependent on the self-control or the discipline of the player it has nothing to do about the amount of money available in the bankroll.  Even with a huge bankroll if a player knows the consequences of indulging too much in gambling and has a strong personal discipline, I bet the guy will stop before his bankroll is depleted and in the contrary, those who have no self-discipine will keep on playing until he runs out of money.

self-discipline indeed plays a big role on how a gambler will form his habits towards this activity. i can agree that no matter how big your bankroll is, if you have no control of yourself, you will always end up broke. but if you have small bankroll but you know your limits, then you can even go home with some winnings.
if you think you are starting to go deep and out of control, give yourself a lil break and contemplate on your life. what you wanted to do and if it is what you wanted to do. sometimes you only need self-reflection to wake up from the reality and change course for the better.
Discipline is a very good thing in every facet of life, but in addition, you should have a good plan when you are disciplined in gambling. It entails a foolproof approach that would sustain you for so long. But at times, it's easier said than done as emotion is a spirit and it lives in everyone, if care is not taken, emotion will overcome the discipline and the results would be catastrophic. This is why I would like to include the right budget in this discussion, it might be a daily, weekly or yearly budget.

This is a way to calculatively plan, which could also help our weakness by not letting emotion overcome us. After all, you might have known the maximum daily amount to bet, so it will not affect you when you lose and immediately abstain from betting till the next day.

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May 24, 2023, 02:03:10 PM
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Discipline is a very good thing in every facet of life, but in addition, you should have a good plan when you are disciplined in gambling. It entails a foolproof approach that would sustain you for so long. But at times, it's easier said than done as emotion is a spirit and it lives in everyone, if care is not taken, emotion will overcome the discipline and the results would be catastrophic. This is why I would like to include the right budget in this discussion, it might be a daily, weekly or yearly budget.

This is a way to calculatively plan, which could also help our weakness by not letting emotion overcome us. After all, you might have known the maximum daily amount to bet, so it will not affect you when you lose and immediately abstain from betting till the next day.

This is right. Discipline is really needed and it will get you somewhere nice and far if you have and mastered this trait early on and in a consistent manner. Having discipline means you are responsible on your actions and you calculate the risks that come along with every plan. Additionally, you set limits, boundaries, and takes over the control using your intellect rather than your emotions. If you can do this, definitely you will not get lost and not be in disadvantaged if you ever plan to gamble.

Having fund allocation, not too much time dedication for gambling just shows that you are disciplined and you do respect your boundaries in gambling. I met people who are like this and they really have a balanced lifestyle - getting to enjoy what they want and at the same time, doing their duties on other roles such as being a good provider while having a betting or playing hobby on the side.

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May 25, 2023, 02:45:52 AM
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We often intend to play little and gamble small, but unfortunately that is often an illusion. If you like to gamble too much, you may end up betting larger amounts over time. The problem is also often that you no longer have the realization that you are gambling. You have a blur in your eyes and then you are only concerned with money. But gambling is not the way to stay safe, it would be better to stay away from it altogether.
Some people actually live behind the misconception of actually taking gambling as a means of making income and those set of people are just entwined to gamble out their money everyday regardless of the losses that they might enquire, they are blinded by the fact  they can make continuous profit even if they lose and this type of thought in gambling can never be reduced even if they think to gamble less.
Ironically, their misconception doesn't break even after losing money every day instead of getting any gains which is basically not how earning an income works.  Smiley They still keep gambling with the same misconception that they can make money from gambling when they are clearly losing money to it and they are so lost that they don't realize it.

Seeing the reality and believing it becomes hard for some people sometimes, the same is with such kinds of gamblers. They know no stopping at any cost and will also not leave being stubborn about their thoughts, which are not right Smiley.
Those people could never learn from that misconception, instead would still gamble and try to make money. They really don't realize what they are doing is wrong and need to fix it before becoming a full-blown gambling addiction.

And for those who don't agree with us, we can never make them see the difference because they will stick with it without wanting to change it or accept it. And we can only let them be like that and see the reality that will happen later.

There is one good reason why there is this misconception and that is that while we lose we get the rage and we say we will stop gambling and will not play anymore,will stick to a preliminary budget and no matter what I will stick to it but as soon as some little time passes there is that "microbe" that is deep inside our roots that says let's try one more time and this time we will hit it big.This is what keeps gamblers coming back and as such is very difficult to control this type of emotion and it can be learned only with passing of time,for me it took 3 years to put this emotion in control so it is very easy to say but very difficult to do.
And it will get bigger when we can get a few more wins after losing because that usually happens to most gamblers. And that is also what makes them go back to gambling because they see the hope of making money from gambling so they want to try it again. But no matter how hard they try, it is not difficult for them to make money from gambling and they better be aware of this and not even try.

You are lucky to finally get control of those emotions because some gamblers are still trying to learn to control their emotions. Even patient people can lose control when they gamble and change their character completely. So controlling emotions really has to be studied in earnest because it is very useful for us, especially when playing gambling.

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May 25, 2023, 04:10:47 AM
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Discipline is a very good thing in every facet of life, but in addition, you should have a good plan when you are disciplined in gambling. It entails a foolproof approach that would sustain you for so long. But at times, it's easier said than done as emotion is a spirit and it lives in everyone, if care is not taken, emotion will overcome the discipline and the results would be catastrophic. This is why I would like to include the right budget in this discussion, it might be a daily, weekly or yearly budget.

This is a way to calculatively plan, which could also help our weakness by not letting emotion overcome us. After all, you might have known the maximum daily amount to bet, so it will not affect you when you lose and immediately abstain from betting till the next day.
Setting a budget is a good idea not only when it comes to gambling but on any other aspects of our life, however it is important to remember that a budget can be created not only with money in mind, it is also important to know beforehand how much time we are going to spend gambling each week, this way by respecting such a time allocation we can reduce our chances to zero to face any addiction or to gamble more time than what we wanted during the week or during a particular session.
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May 25, 2023, 06:08:03 PM
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Those people could never learn from that misconception, instead would still gamble and try to make money. They really don't realize what they are doing is wrong and need to fix it before becoming a full-blown gambling addiction.

And for those who don't agree with us, we can never make them see the difference because they will stick with it without wanting to change it or accept it. And we can only let them be like that and see the reality that will happen later.
Realization is a very rare thing and only a few people got it in them, and gamblers, they mostly lack this ability to realize what they are getting themselves into until they are totally sunk into the addiction and have almost spent everything they may have had back in the day, realizing things that late doesn't really work or has no essence at all.

There is basically nothing you can do to make someone realize their mistakes unless they have it in their heart as well, otherwise, no matter how hard you try, you will only be wasting your time and theirs as well.

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May 25, 2023, 08:17:52 PM
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Discipline is a very good thing in every facet of life, but in addition, you should have a good plan when you are disciplined in gambling. It entails a foolproof approach that would sustain you for so long. But at times, it's easier said than done as emotion is a spirit and it lives in everyone, if care is not taken, emotion will overcome the discipline and the results would be catastrophic. This is why I would like to include the right budget in this discussion, it might be a daily, weekly or yearly budget.

This is a way to calculatively plan, which could also help our weakness by not letting emotion overcome us. After all, you might have known the maximum daily amount to bet, so it will not affect you when you lose and immediately abstain from betting till the next day.
Setting a budget is a good idea not only when it comes to gambling but on any other aspects of our life, however it is important to remember that a budget can be created not only with money in mind, it is also important to know beforehand how much time we are going to spend gambling each week, this way by respecting such a time allocation we can reduce our chances to zero to face any addiction or to gamble more time than what we wanted during the week or during a particular session.

Like you, I believe that limitation is one of the most important rules, not only in gambling, but also in other areas of our lives. A lot of enjoyable activities without restrictions can lead to problems that are very difficult to overcome later on. So limit yourself when you feel you can go too far and then you'll be fine. At least I practice this in my experience and have no problems with both gambling and other entertainment.

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May 26, 2023, 05:21:05 AM
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Those people could never learn from that misconception, instead would still gamble and try to make money. They really don't realize what they are doing is wrong and need to fix it before becoming a full-blown gambling addiction.

And for those who don't agree with us, we can never make them see the difference because they will stick with it without wanting to change it or accept it. And we can only let them be like that and see the reality that will happen later.
Realization is a very rare thing and only a few people got it in them, and gamblers, they mostly lack this ability to realize what they are getting themselves into until they are totally sunk into the addiction and have almost spent everything they may have had back in the day, realizing things that late doesn't really work or has no essence at all.

There is basically nothing you can do to make someone realize their mistakes unless they have it in their heart as well, otherwise, no matter how hard you try, you will only be wasting your time and theirs as well.
They can realize if there is a will from within them that what they are doing is wrong and try to reduce their activity in gambling gradually. They can do it, but most don't want to try to make the first step to reduce gambling. Instead of cutting back, they sink deeper and deeper into the addiction without being able to get out of it and they also think that it is pointless to quit gambling.

But if any of his family finds out about his gambling addiction, they should still try to talk him out of gambling. While it may be tough, it never hurts to bring the person along. Maybe it won't be able to stop right away but reduce slowly and I think it's worth trying because by reducing activity in gambling and diverting it to other things, they can start to change their thinking that they can change in a better direction.

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May 26, 2023, 09:45:27 PM
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Those people could never learn from that misconception, instead would still gamble and try to make money. They really don't realize what they are doing is wrong and need to fix it before becoming a full-blown gambling addiction.

And for those who don't agree with us, we can never make them see the difference because they will stick with it without wanting to change it or accept it. And we can only let them be like that and see the reality that will happen later.
Realization is a very rare thing and only a few people got it in them, and gamblers, they mostly lack this ability to realize what they are getting themselves into until they are totally sunk into the addiction and have almost spent everything they may have had back in the day, realizing things that late doesn't really work or has no essence at all.

There is basically nothing you can do to make someone realize their mistakes unless they have it in their heart as well, otherwise, no matter how hard you try, you will only be wasting your time and theirs as well.
Realization isn't necessarily rare. It comes to everyone, especially people that have succumbed to gambling addiction. The problem is that it only ever comes to these kinds of people when everything's too late and they have already lost everything. Their money, their family, their friends, etc. And even then when they have already known that it's gambling that has brought them to this point in their lives, they wouldn't have the courage to stop, either because they are punishing themselves over the fact that they ruined their lives, or because of gambler's fallacy and sunk-cost fallacy which makes them go back to the gig "to take their losses back eventually" which is just not going to happen, some even go so far as to commit suicide when they find out that they've ruined everything and they start to think that there's no way they are getting out of this pickle.

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May 26, 2023, 11:18:20 PM
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Famz, drop your opinion on this, would you categorize these two as gambling? Because the only winning factor from Bitcoin investment is to just buy low and wait for a high price, it's not the same with casinos. Am I not making sense? I will like to hear from you.
Gambling and investing are two completely different things. But for these two things you must go with the principle of losing money. Still we know that gambling is a totally luck based platform if you are lucky you can win from gambling platform. But in most cases, chances of losing in gambling will be high. Investment, on the other hand, is a trustworthy and less risky business than gambling. If you have losses after investing, you can hope for recovery. There you can never be disappointed that your money is disappearing all at once. So from here we can consider the difference.
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