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July 24, 2023, 07:25:29 AM
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As I head of family with a kid, I would consider moving abroad when I wont be able to earn and feed my family, to a country where I would be able to provide my family all necessary. I think this is all a matter of money. I am not a person that is a fan of surviving, I prefer to give myself and family comfort. Maybe also a war is the reason I would move abroad, but in all other ways, I think I wont move.

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July 24, 2023, 12:45:18 PM
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As I head of family with a kid, I would consider moving abroad when I wont be able to earn and feed my family, to a country where I would be able to provide my family all necessary. I think this is all a matter of money. I am not a person that is a fan of surviving, I prefer to give myself and family comfort. Maybe also a war is the reason I would move abroad, but in all other ways, I think I wont move.

I also have a family and I will only settle abroad if my family has the opportunity to come along. Otherwise, I will never leave my wife and children alone to work abroad. I would rather be poor than be away from my family even though it also hurts my children. But leaving them behind and going away for a long time will also be a greater loss for them. It can be said that if anyone is in that situation, it is difficult to make a final decision. Migrating to work abroad for a married person is not easy.

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July 24, 2023, 01:12:23 PM
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As I head of family with a kid, I would consider moving abroad when I wont be able to earn and feed my family, to a country where I would be able to provide my family all necessary. I think this is all a matter of money. I am not a person that is a fan of surviving, I prefer to give myself and family comfort. Maybe also a war is the reason I would move abroad, but in all other ways, I think I wont move.
It would be a sacrifice for sure, as most of us really want to stay in the country where we live. If you can just find a decent job that you can earn decent money from, then you aren't going abroad, but again, there are countries where opportunities are rare and salaries are low, like where I've lived, but if we ever get a good job in our current country, it is better because you can still be with your family rather than going to other countries.
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July 24, 2023, 02:44:22 PM
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As I head of family with a kid, I would consider moving abroad when I wont be able to earn and feed my family, to a country where I would be able to provide my family all necessary. I think this is all a matter of money. I am not a person that is a fan of surviving, I prefer to give myself and family comfort. Maybe also a war is the reason I would move abroad, but in all other ways, I think I wont move.

If you think you have more opportunity abroad than in your own country well that's a good choice since you will have to provide the needs of your family. But seems you are not having a financial crisis since you are really settled in your homeland. Well your decision is actually good as you think many situation first or scenario. In my case, there's less opportunity to my country since even engineers are paid less than a call center. Even you say started first but we all know that engineering requires some degrees and knowledge to become an engineer. But yeah the salary are almost bare minimum. But if we go abroad that salary would 3x. And that's what I'm thinking if I worked abroad and there's war then I would get stuck, plus I'm planning to bring my family to live abroad I'm just scared with this kind of scenario.

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July 24, 2023, 04:14:51 PM
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As I head of family with a kid, I would consider moving abroad when I wont be able to earn and feed my family, to a country where I would be able to provide my family all necessary. I think this is all a matter of money. I am not a person that is a fan of surviving, I prefer to give myself and family comfort. Maybe also a war is the reason I would move abroad, but in all other ways, I think I wont move.
It would be a sacrifice for sure, as most of us really want to stay in the country where we live. If you can just find a decent job that you can earn decent money from, then you aren't going abroad, but again, there are countries where opportunities are rare and salaries are low, like where I've lived, but if we ever get a good job in our current country, it is better because you can still be with your family rather than going to other countries.

Moving abroad for economical reasons, leaving your family behind to just send them money should be done when you absolutely have no other options, or if it's only on a short-term basis (working on a project etc).
Being a provider is one of man's primary responsibilities, but it's easy to get carried away being focussed only on the money. The reality is, your kids need an active father figure way more than they need any extra money or comfort. If you're not there for your children when they need you and your guidance, then the damage is done, you can't buy back the lost time and you can't push back the father-child bonding.

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July 24, 2023, 04:41:14 PM
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As I head of family with a kid, I would consider moving abroad when I wont be able to earn and feed my family, to a country where I would be able to provide my family all necessary. I think this is all a matter of money. I am not a person that is a fan of surviving, I prefer to give myself and family comfort. Maybe also a war is the reason I would move abroad, but in all other ways, I think I wont move.

Yeah, that is the way to go about it. I think we should always be looking after our families and their priorities rather than just the money. Monetary gains could not be the reason alone. If we really want to move to another country for the sake of earning then the whole family should be thought about it. What I mean is the whole family shall be taken with us as head of the family. Otherwise, if someone is going to offer me a million-dollar job but I cant take my family with me then that is going to be a big no from my side. There needs family around to enjoy life. To take care of each other in the bad and in the good too. I think money can't buy it alone. We need money, but more than that we need our family's support too.

Moreover, if we are professionals then every country has the minimum wages that can sustain a good lifestyle. I think we don't really need to move, get settled somewhere, plus the Visa is always an issue. The security of job and religious conflicts etc. you name it. You better love your hometown and be happy about it. (Unless someone is from a country that is too backward, under a war, refugee etc).
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July 24, 2023, 05:02:57 PM
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moving abroad actually requires a lot of consideration, starting from new adaptations, language barriers, capital to live abroad and so on.
actually i have a desire to go and settle temporarily in several countries but i don't want to move but i want to have a business that has branches in various countries.
if you are still not married, of course it might be easier to travel and try new things and try our luck abroad. but when you are married and have children it will not be easy.

I think there is some truth to the point you made, because after marriage, one's freedom to travel abroad will be very limited by their own family. Especially if a person already has children so he must also care for his own child even though he has a better goal by going abroad. But it certainly won't be easy for him unless someone is still not married and has big aspirations to have a business abroad and develop branches into his own country when his business is running more advanced.

Actually everyone's wish when they want to move abroad is to get more jobs and money than at home, but most people are always hampered by costs and also the language they need to make it easier for them to communicate with outsiders. I think that is what is the main obstacle for most people who have the desire to move from their country to another at this time, so there are many people who ultimately have to discourage it from moving to another place.
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July 24, 2023, 06:37:03 PM
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As I head of family with a kid, I would consider moving abroad when I wont be able to earn and feed my family, to a country where I would be able to provide my family all necessary. I think this is all a matter of money. I am not a person that is a fan of surviving, I prefer to give myself and family comfort. Maybe also a war is the reason I would move abroad, but in all other ways, I think I wont move.

That is completely understandable mate and I share your thoughts as being the head of the family, it's never been easy specially if there are some times that we fell short to our ends meet and so the question will struck us again if it's already time to move towards a much better country so that we can provide more for our family and give them a much comfortable life because it's our duty give these things to them. And just like you, I think we can still manage even without moving to a different country.

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July 24, 2023, 06:41:31 PM
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I am starting to read and watch videos that are related to migration. But it seems that those countries that I like to move have a lot of stories which is normal to think of. I've seen people telling their stories, the good and the bad ones.

The bad ones are discouraging me and there are people that have migrated and moved in abroad for good telling that, if you're already living a good life in your native country then much better to say.

And that's why until now, I'm torn on thinking about it and currently I am having a decent life and can live accordingly to my lifestyle but of course only below my means.



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July 24, 2023, 06:57:07 PM
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As I head of family with a kid, I would consider moving abroad when I wont be able to earn and feed my family, to a country where I would be able to provide my family all necessary. I think this is all a matter of money. I am not a person that is a fan of surviving, I prefer to give myself and family comfort. Maybe also a war is the reason I would move abroad, but in all other ways, I think I wont move.

That is completely understandable mate and I share your thoughts as being the head of the family, it's never been easy specially if there are some times that we fell short to our ends meet and so the question will struck us again if it's already time to move towards a much better country so that we can provide more for our family and give them a much comfortable life because it's our duty give these things to them. And just like you, I think we can still manage even without moving to a different country.

that will also be a good reason to work abroad. leaving your family behind is just not worth though. some kids of our time are not so close to their parents and are often influenced by the wrong crowd. young kids in my country where parents are working abroad are often the ones living a good life but are also the troubled kids.

parents often regret their decision to go abroad because they don't have a close relationship with their kids.









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that will also be a good reason to work abroad. leaving your family behind is just not worth though. some kids of our time are not so close to their parents and are often influenced by the wrong crowd. young kids in my country where parents are working abroad are often the ones living a good life but are also the troubled kids.

parents often regret their decision to go abroad because they don't have a close relationship with their kids.

If I will be asked if I want to move abroad right now, my answer will be yes. Earning here in our country cannot be sustainable since inflation really hit us very hard and it makes things worst. I need to sustain my family needs so even though many people will say that living abroad is not yet a good advice because of cost of living still I will be earning more in there rather than in here.
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that will also be a good reason to work abroad. leaving your family behind is just not worth though. some kids of our time are not so close to their parents and are often influenced by the wrong crowd. young kids in my country where parents are working abroad are often the ones living a good life but are also the troubled kids.

parents often regret their decision to go abroad because they don't have a close relationship with their kids.

If I will be asked if I want to move abroad right now, my answer will be yes. Earning here in our country cannot be sustainable since inflation really hit us very hard and it makes things worst. I need to sustain my family needs so even though many people will say that living abroad is not yet a good advice because of cost of living still I will be earning more in there rather than in here.
Trying to look at on which countries does have lowest inflation %, then here's the list.

    Rwanda — -2.0%
    Chad — -0.5%
    Maldives — -0.2%
    Gabon — 0.6% (tie)
    Japan — 0.6% (tie)
    Bahrain — 0.7%
    Fiji — 0.8%
    Vanuatu — 0.9% (tie)
    Bolivia — 0.9% (tie)
    Saudi Arabia — 1.1%

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/inflation-rate-by-country


Even myself if i do have the chance or the possibility on going abroad and would be able to make my income more even bigger and sufficient on giving my family a good living
then i would definitely do it, rather than on staying up into my country on which having that worst inflation on playing around almost 7% which it isnt bad
but still not that good on looking with that number.

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I understand where you're coming from my friend, after all I was raised in a family where my dad worked abroad too. While I would understand your reservations in the field of language, I would say that's going to be the least of your worries soon as you decide to work abroad. With countries like the USA and UK being outright discriminatory against people who are not of their own race, your biggest dilemma will be how to dodge racism and discrimination, especially during the ever-increasing Asian Hate within the US territory which as the term implies, specifically caters towards discriminating and in some cases even injuring and violating Asian people, that's just one of the stuff you'd have a bigger worry than the language barrier.

Still, I'd say with the economic situations we're in it's better to eat your pride and actually do something to make your life better, which in this case is working abroad.

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July 25, 2023, 05:59:45 PM
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Trying to look at on which countries does have lowest inflation %, then here's the list.

    Rwanda — -2.0%
    Chad — -0.5%
    Maldives — -0.2%
    Gabon — 0.6% (tie)
    Japan — 0.6% (tie)
    Bahrain — 0.7%
    Fiji — 0.8%
    Vanuatu — 0.9% (tie)
    Bolivia — 0.9% (tie)
    Saudi Arabia — 1.1%

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/inflation-rate-by-country


Even myself if i do have the chance or the possibility on going abroad and would be able to make my income more even bigger and sufficient on giving my family a good living
then i would definitely do it, rather than on staying up into my country on which having that worst inflation on playing around almost 7% which it isnt bad
but still not that good on looking with that number.

Low inflation is not a good indicator (or any at all) of the potential income or the standard of living. As evidenced even by the ranking you posted, most of this countries are not attractive targets for immigration.
The usual "healthy" inflation target is considered to be in range of 2% or 2.5%. The negative rate (deflation) indicates that something might have went wrong and could be a sign of recession.

I wouldn't even be looking at this metric when making a decision of moving abroad. As long as the inflation is not out of control and is in somewhat acceptable range, I wouldn't be concerned about it. There are way more important factors to consider.


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The job market has become extremely competitive in the past few years, while the increasing cost of living and low wages are forcing people to move abroad for a chance at a better future. Personally, I believe the economic conditions in Greece have been deteriorating; groceries, rent, and fuel have skyrocketed while the available income keeps shrinking. People with degrees are struggling to find jobs in their field that pay above the minimum wage and offer benefits such as paid vacation and humane working conditions.

Moving abroad isn't an easy decision; there are several factors to take into account, with the most important one being the language barrier. I only speak English; moving anywhere apart from the USA and UK would be a huge challenge because I'd have to learn a new language from scratch. Moreover, you'd have to take into account the increasing living costs of Germany compared to Greece, which means that you must have saved enough money until you manage to get settled in one place..


Moving abroad to a strange land is not something that easy and not everyone that made it abroad end up having the kind of life he imagined in mind to what could be referred to as a greener pasture. For some it even gets worsen when they finally travelled abroad as they may not have a good paid job or have to work themselves 4x more just to make a good pay for the week and end up having bills taking up 50% of it. If I could afford the necessary amount of money that can take me to go live abroad I'll prefer using that money to think of a good business investment to direct that money into cause in my country currency such amount to use in traveling will be running into millions. In this present day economic crisis no country has it better and cool anyway.

Don't overthinking yourself for you already have a good financial tool at hand "bitcoin", which is the new digital gold now. Plan on how to accumulatively invest in it periodically before your retirement time by then you must have made good ROI profit that you can use to establish yourself in some other lucrative business. Traveling abroad doesn't guarantee a save haven for all that does. @op think about it.
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The hope is that people certainly want to live in a developed country with a large income and a country that cares about its citizens, and even though I live in a developing country with a small income I don't plan to move abroad, this is because I already feel the environment or the place Nowadays, many family and friends are important in life.

family and friends are important in life but because of limited jobs in country one will consider moving abroad. Family is important and because of this reason people prefer to move abroad to earn money and to make the life of him and his family become satisfied.

No one will be in desire to leave his family here and go to another country where there is no relative or friends but if there is no other way of satisfy one's life then going for job in other country will be better.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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The hope is that people certainly want to live in a developed country with a large income and a country that cares about its citizens, and even though I live in a developing country with a small income I don't plan to move abroad, this is because I already feel the environment or the place Nowadays, many family and friends are important in life.

family and friends are important in life but because of limited jobs in country one will consider moving abroad. Family is important and because of this reason people prefer to move abroad to earn money and to make the life of him and his family become satisfied.

No one will be in desire to leave his family here and go to another country where there is no relative or friends but if there is no other way of satisfy one's life then going for job in other country will be better.

I agree. I mean take a lot of overseas worker as a great example. I'm sure most, if not all, of them would rather stay and spend their everyday lives with their family but due to the demands of their living and lifestyle, as well as the lack of good paying jobs in their country, they are left with no choice but to move abroad. Sometimes we have to make sacrifices in order to have a better result in life.

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July 26, 2023, 12:02:56 PM
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As I head of family with a kid, I would consider moving abroad when I wont be able to earn and feed my family, to a country where I would be able to provide my family all necessary. I think this is all a matter of money. I am not a person that is a fan of surviving, I prefer to give myself and family comfort. Maybe also a war is the reason I would move abroad, but in all other ways, I think I wont move.
Well, basically the reason for someone to move abroad is indeed about money or it could also be related to security. Like when the country you live in is going on a war. Then of course the residents will try to move as fast as they can. They might even decide to move even though they don't have much preparation yet. Because the safety of yourself and your family is what must be prioritized. For those who already have a family, of course, they have to think about a job or source of income that can provide a better level of life. And when in the country of origin it is not easy to get a job, then when there is an opportunity in another country, it might be one of the opportunities that can be taken. But I personally prefer to fight in my own country. And I basically don't like new, unfamiliar environments. Maybe it's good for a vacation to a foreign place. but to move I personally have to think twice.

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July 26, 2023, 02:16:42 PM
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Moving abroad to a strange land is not something that easy and not everyone that made it abroad end up having the kind of life he imagined in mind to what could be referred to as a greener pasture. For some it even gets worsen when they finally travelled abroad as they may not have a good paid job or have to work themselves 4x more just to make a good pay for the week and end up having bills taking up 50% of it. If I could afford the necessary amount of money that can take me to go live abroad I'll prefer using that money to think of a good business investment to direct that money into cause in my country currency such amount to use in traveling will be running into millions. In this present day economic crisis no country has it better and cool anyway.

Don't overthinking yourself for you already have a good financial tool at hand "bitcoin", which is the new digital gold now. Plan on how to accumulatively invest in it periodically before your retirement time by then you must have made good ROI profit that you can use to establish yourself in some other lucrative business. Traveling abroad doesn't guarantee a save haven for all that does. @op think about it.
It's crucial to understand that you are going to a new environment, one that will take some getting used to. For this reason, it's best to always think carefully and make sure you have something concrete to do there before considering moving.

Because there are problems everywhere, it is best to discover a solution on your own rather than leaving the county in search of another, greener pasture. However, some people do get lucky and make it through that process, while others regret the decision if not adequately planned for.

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July 26, 2023, 02:44:00 PM
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Since I got enlighten with the things in the real world I stated to my self that it's more ideal to work abroad even though you can suffer with the sadness with your family and friends are not with you but at the end we came for the money to make us survive and get enough funds to our safety at the same time.
My country is not as good country that has a good payment way for work we just work for 8 hours above with just barely 10$ and imagine in other country they are paying with the hourly rate so far from reality that you can save a good amount of money.

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