BCGame Affiliate Program Issues

[piebeyb]

I get that sites need to make changes here and there, but they should never mess with affiliates IMO. They want users to join their affiliate programs and bring them players, but then once they build a base they take away the revenue promised.

I'd say affiliates are a decent reason sites get traffic, why potentially take customers away from your site? Look for other ways to cut costs.

Agree with you that the affiliate program is very good for helping to bring in visitor traffic. I don't know why many casinos cut bonuses in that program even though they could have cut other programs, for example deposit bonus programs or other bonuses so they don't cut affiliate bonuses because that will create traffic too decreased, unless indeed they get casino traffic from other campaigns but I also think this affiliate program is very helpful.

After all, why do you have to maintain a welcome deposit bonus or other deposits that won't be useful if there is no visitor traffic while this affiliate program can be used for people who want to promote the casino so that lots of active gamblers play, in fact I have also seen bcgames actively holding campaigns everywhere including social media as well as ethereum and other crypto explorer sites. let's just hope the casinos don't slash the bonuses of this program because it's definitely hurting them a lot actually

[aioc]

Update: Just spoke with an admin, nothing he can do about it. I guess it's time I say goodbye to this site. Taking my 43 referrals and millions wagered every week along with me.

Can you really do that is it really possible to do that it seems you have contacts on all your referrals if you can convince them to transfer to another casino of your choosing but what if some of your referrals already have an account on the casino that you've picked to transfer?
Some players have their own lucky casino to play with so some might stay, it's still a good option to lower your referral cashback I'm sure they will understand it, and you will still earn from their wager, I recommend that you take a look at Betcoin.ag and check their referral rewards.

[Beparanf]

I get that sites need to make changes here and there, but they should never mess with affiliates IMO. They want users to join their affiliate programs and bring them players, but then once they build a base they take away the revenue promised.

I'd say affiliates are a decent reason sites get traffic, why potentially take customers away from your site? Look for other ways to cut costs.

Sadly, Casino think that Affiliates just milking money to them without doing anything that’s why it’s easy for them to cut loose since they already get what they want. Affiliate can’t pull out their invites so it’s take it or leave it already for them after the initial high affiliate commission.

Not only Affiliate commissions is what casinos now cutting expenses but also their bonuses for loyalty reward. Most of the perks is now decrease after getting their target customer volume from initial introduction benefits. This is why many gamblers is exploring new casino even if it’s dangerous.

[Stakefast]

I am advertising for bcgames for a while aswell. I collected over 5000 referrals, with more then 50k commission generated.

Lately I saw a deep decline in my commissions, usually I get a few hundret bucks per week, now its more like 10-25$.

I will contact coco and let him know that I also won't accept this dramatic change since I managed to get a custom percentage of 35%.

I will let you know how it worked out.

[Casdinyard]

Contact OP here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5088875.0
That is the official thread they have in bitcointalk but in that thread, you can find their channels where you might wanna try as well to connect with them. Here is the telegram https://t.me/joinchat/L5YyYla7--Arsls3DgAgdw

If it doesn't work still. You may have to tell your referrals about that 10% already and then move on to another casino affiliate. You've made thousands though, seem worth the time you did. Let me ask, is you giving 10% legal according to their policy?

Agreed. While losing a significant portion of your earnings is definitely a pesky loss, especially in today's day and age, I think this kind of discussion is best made with an official from BCgame themselves. Ranting and facilitating an echo chamber is just fine but it's not gonna get you anywhere OP. So, use bittraffic's link here and perhaps talk about this in private. It's that simple.

I think the cut down to 10% @bittraffic, this is something that is always done by a lot of casinos, it's a normal thing and is probably included in the clauses of the contract OP signed when he got into this affiliate program. The problem is with the deliverance of this change. OP claims to not have seen nor heard any update that tells them there was a cut down, so he's left blindsided and all his downlines not aware of the drop. He's gonna have to break this news to them in the worst way possible if ever, but I doubt it. OP claimed to have earned 40-ish grand from this venture, that's a good enough indicator that these people were probably paid well too.

[masulum]

Agree with you that the affiliate program is very good for helping to bring in visitor traffic. I don't know why many casinos cut bonuses in that program even though they could have cut other programs, for example deposit bonus programs or other bonuses so they don't cut affiliate bonuses because that will create traffic too decreased, unless indeed they get casino traffic from other campaigns but I also think this affiliate program is very helpful.

The deposit bonus may not be removed from BC.game, because this promo is the most used and new members will trying the service with this bonus. When this promo is stopped, i don't think people who become affiliates will be able to get new members, even they get, maybe not for long time to use. Therefore, bc.game sacrifices their affiliates program, this is also not a good move, an affiliate is an unofficial marketing team for most businesses. And affiliates may be more effective in bringing gamblers to join than traditional advertising.

[leonair]

Update: Just spoke with an admin, nothing he can do about it. I guess it's time I say goodbye to this site. Taking my 43 referrals and millions wagered every week along with me.

Can you really do that is it really possible to do that it seems you have contacts on all your referrals if you can convince them to transfer to another casino of your choosing but what if some of your referrals already have an account on the casino that you've picked to transfer?
Some players have their own lucky casino to play with so some might stay, it's still a good option to lower your referral cashback I'm sure they will understand it, and you will still earn from their wager, I recommend that you take a look at Betcoin.ag and check their referral rewards.

The op can try it but don't think everyone will listen to his advice. because one person likes one site op has once registered some gamblers on BC.GAME for his commission and they are gambling there. now there's no guarantee they'll do it again if you invite them to another site. because this site has already become very popular and has gained a lot of popularity so those who gamble here will not leave this site very soon.

[iv4n]

I am advertising for bcgames for a while aswell. I collected over 5000 referrals, with more then 50k commission generated.

Lately I saw a deep decline in my commissions, usually I get a few hundret bucks per week, now its more like 10-25$.

I will contact coco and let him know that I also won't accept this dramatic change since I managed to get a custom percentage of 35%.

I will let you know how it worked out.

Affiliate and referral programs are two different things... I am just pointing this out...

[Mahdirakib]

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Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing a lot of users for them.

[decodx]

I am advertising for bcgames for a while aswell. I collected over 5000 referrals, with more then 50k commission generated.
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That's pretty impressive! Congrats on that! I'm curious, how did you manage to attract such a large number of referrals? Do you have any strategies or tips that have worked well for you?

I will let you know how it worked out.

Looking forward to hearing your insights!

[Wiwo]

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Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing in a lot of users for them.

No matter what the level of their dissatisfaction it remains within the right of the casino to lower their rewards system at whatever time and this case is no different from that too, but what is not reasonable is for the casino to lower the affiliate rewards significantly such as in this case.

In any case, nothing last forever and we expect things to change at regular intervals,  but the casino operator failed to give its promoters prior notice about the percentage drop.

[Yatsan]

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Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing a lot of users for them.

That's just how things go, if they have already many players, then what's the use of paying on the same rate for referrals. They need to atleast lessen the rate to sustain their platform and avoid overpaying the referrals. It could also be abused which would be a loss to the platform as well. But this would reflect to all players not only for the most number of referrals.

I am advertising for bcgames for a while aswell. I collected over 5000 referrals, with more then 50k commission generated.
<...>

That's pretty impressive! Congrats on that! I'm curious, how did you manage to attract such a large number of referrals? Do you have any strategies or tips that have worked well for you?

I will let you know how it worked out.

Looking forward to hearing your insights!

I have a friend who is having quite of a number for referrals. His strategy is to give atleast 10% of what he would get from referral bonus to that player he would be able to refer. It is nothing much but atleast they'd have something from it. Might as well not as effictive as with other strategies but you may consider it.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

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Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing in a lot of users for them.

No matter what the level of their dissatisfaction it remains within the right of the casino to lower their rewards system at whatever time and this case is no different from that too, but what is not reasonable is for the casino to lower the affiliate rewards significantly such as in this case.

In any case, nothing last forever and we expect things to change at regular intervals,  but the casino operator failed to give its promoters prior notice about the percentage drop.

Well, from what I think, it is not imminent for the casino to give their promoters any prior notice before making such a decision, most especially, the promoters who are not officially affiliated or hired by the casino as affiliate marketers, where it would have been very wrong is if the casino had hired op as an officially recognized affiliate marketer of the casino, and such a decision is taken and even implemented with his knowledge, then he(op) could have had all the right to sue the casino to court for breach of contract, this is if the contract does not have a line saying "we have every right to make changes to the affiliate reward system without prior notice bla bla bla" though.

[gunhell16]

I have been on bc.game since a couple of years.
I have a successful affiliate campaign on there with over 40k+ commission made. But recently they decreased my affiliate percentage from 35% to 9.8% without any prior discussion or intimation.

I offer 10% to my referrals on their wager as a bonus to encourage them to use my link. Now that my affiliate % has been cut down to under 10% I virtually made 0 money on the last 4 million wagered under me as I still paid my referrals their 10%.
 It's insane how BCGame threw me under the bus like this without any discussion with me.

I think this is part of their cost cutting campaign which began with them removing rakeback completely from the site followed by now slashing affiliate percentages. I tried reaching out to BCGame staff in so many ways but to zero success.

I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

With every dollar being wagered on my referral now, I'm losing money.

As far as I can see in that regard, there is nothing you can do if bc games change their established rules because they are the ones who administer or control games and we are just players who decide whether we follow it or not.

But it cannot be denied the size of the percentage of their referral bonus. But if you think you have a fight or claim against what you are fighting in games, it is your right as long as you are in the right and you have strong evidence against them.

[www.Gambler.Casino]

It's probably not their problem anymore if you don't make money out of it since they are not involved with your decision to pay bonuses to your invites. You should also adjust with the new rates.

It still says 35% on the affiliate page, but it has been decreased to 9.8%  The affiliate program is not lucrative enough for me anymore, I'm probably gonna migrate to a different site along with my referrals if BCGame still choose to ignore me.

Also BCGame have been costcutting so much lately, the removal of rakeback, slashing affiliate %s and so on. I would advice people to stay away from the site as it seems like this is the start to something worse happening.

When the rules change for the worse for partners or players, this is a really bad signal.

[delfastTions]

It's probably not their problem anymore if you don't make money out of it since they are not involved with your decision to pay bonuses to your invites. You should also adjust with the new rates.

It still says 35% on the affiliate page, but it has been decreased to 9.8%  The affiliate program is not lucrative enough for me anymore, I'm probably gonna migrate to a different site along with my referrals if BCGame still choose to ignore me.

Also BCGame have been costcutting so much lately, the removal of rakeback, slashing affiliate %s and so on. I would advice people to stay away from the site as it seems like this is the start to something worse happening.

When the rules change for the worse for partners or players, this is a really bad signal.

In my opinion, those changes in the general history of this casino, when almost all bonus programs interesting for players change so significantly and quite unexpectedly and rather quickly, this is a clear sign that something serious is happening in general with the business of this casino.  I think these innovations will really puzzle, or rather even scare a large number of players who used this casino.  I do not really understand such devs decisions, when for one change the same referral program is immediately reduced by more than 3 times. 

Of course, this is a serious signal for players and it is expected that their number in this casino may decrease.  However, we don’t know for sure, maybe the devs have calculated everything and they are satisfied with such a reduction in players. 
And we are unlikely to find out anytime soon.

[slapper]

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Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing in a lot of users for them.

No matter what the level of their dissatisfaction it remains within the right of the casino to lower their rewards system at whatever time and this case is no different from that too, but what is not reasonable is for the casino to lower the affiliate rewards significantly such as in this case.

In any case, nothing last forever and we expect things to change at regular intervals,  but the casino operator failed to give its promoters prior notice about the percentage drop.

Well, from what I think, it is not imminent for the casino to give their promoters any prior notice before making such a decision, most especially, the promoters who are not officially affiliated or hired by the casino as affiliate marketers, where it would have been very wrong is if the casino had hired op as an officially recognized affiliate marketer of the casino, and such a decision is taken and even implemented with his knowledge, then he(op) could have had all the right to sue the casino to court for breach of contract, this is if the contract does not have a line saying "we have every right to make changes to the affiliate reward system without prior notice bla bla bla" though.

I get your point that the casino, on paper, can switch up the reward system for its promoters. But, let's look at the larger impact here. We're living in a world where the grapevine and online reputation are pretty important, and a move like this could seriously smear the casino's image. It's particularly risky if the reward slash is big and without any warning. You're gonna have annoyed promoters which could turn into bad mouthing, which eventually hits the casino's public image and, by extension, their revenue. Even if the promoters aren't officially tied, they can still sway the casino's rep, especially in online circles. So, while the casino is in the clear legally to tweak the reward system, they might wanna ponder on the larger fallout and go for a more open and considerate method

[delfastTions]

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Most of the users aren't satisfied for the sudden change of the affiliate commission rate. BC.Game team haven't informed about it to any crypto casino review making website owners. Do you know about BTCGOSU? BC.game team hasn't decreased the affiliate commission rate for BTCGOSU. It isn't easy to gain 5k referrals in a casino. OP has a small number of referrals on BC.game. But you have a lot of referrals there, they may consider to adjust your affiliate commission rate as you are bringing in a lot of users for them.

No matter what the level of their dissatisfaction it remains within the right of the casino to lower their rewards system at whatever time and this case is no different from that too, but what is not reasonable is for the casino to lower the affiliate rewards significantly such as in this case.

In any case, nothing last forever and we expect things to change at regular intervals,  but the casino operator failed to give its promoters prior notice about the percentage drop.

Well, from what I think, it is not imminent for the casino to give their promoters any prior notice before making such a decision, most especially, the promoters who are not officially affiliated or hired by the casino as affiliate marketers, where it would have been very wrong is if the casino had hired op as an officially recognized affiliate marketer of the casino, and such a decision is taken and even implemented with his knowledge, then he(op) could have had all the right to sue the casino to court for breach of contract, this is if the contract does not have a line saying "we have every right to make changes to the affiliate reward system without prior notice bla bla bla" though.

I get your point that the casino, on paper, can switch up the reward system for its promoters. But, let's look at the larger impact here. We're living in a world where the grapevine and online reputation are pretty important, and a move like this could seriously smear the casino's image. It's particularly risky if the reward slash is big and without any warning. You're gonna have annoyed promoters which could turn into bad mouthing, which eventually hits the casino's public image and, by extension, their revenue. Even if the promoters aren't officially tied, they can still sway the casino's rep, especially in online circles. So, while the casino is in the clear legally to tweak the reward system, they might wanna ponder on the larger fallout and go for a more open and considerate method

There is a very common rule of publication in the media.  The media always publish negative news for free and with great pleasure.  But positive news, for example, in the crypto media about some kind of casino, is now always published only for payment for this publication.  It's always advertising.  And it is always fake and the achievements of the casino or their bonus programs, which are covered by the media, are always embellished.  Yes, this is exactly the information field we now live in.  And this information field greatly distorts reality. 

I am writing all this because I have no doubt that the media will quickly and free of charge distribute such negative news for players from that casino. 
There can be no doubt about this.

[davis196]

I don't know if there's any legal or ethical grounds I can pursue here, but if anyone knows please let me know.

AFAIK, every website with an affiliate program has Terms of Service, where it is clearly stated that the website owners can change the rules of the affiliate program(including commission rates) anytime they want. Joining the Affiliate program means that you accept those Terms of Service. Good luck going to court with any claims. I don't know about any affiliate program in the world, that would agree to discuss any changes of the commission rates with their affiliates. If you don't like the new commission rates, just stop promoting BCGame and try to find a casino with a more lucrative affiliate program.

[SirLancelot]

Agree with you that the affiliate program is very good for helping to bring in visitor traffic. I don't know why many casinos cut bonuses in that program even though they could have cut other programs, for example deposit bonus programs or other bonuses so they don't cut affiliate bonuses because that will create traffic too decreased, unless indeed they get casino traffic from other campaigns but I also think this affiliate program is very helpful.

The deposit bonus may not be removed from BC.game, because this promo is the most used and new members will trying the service with this bonus. When this promo is stopped, i don't think people who become affiliates will be able to get new members, even they get, maybe not for long time to use. Therefore, bc.game sacrifices their affiliates program, this is also not a good move, an affiliate is an unofficial marketing team for most businesses. And affiliates may be more effective in bringing gamblers to join than traditional advertising.

You are probably right that affiliates usually promote a service pretty well, and even if they do it for their own benefit since they earn money when someone joins under their link and uses the platform, the platform still benefits more from it since they get more money from those users invited by affiliates than how much commission they pay the affiliates.

A platform closing down or making changes in an affiliate program will surely affect its growth if they have affiliate workers who are bringing a lot of customers every now and then, they surely need to revise its program so that its affiliates don't switch platforms.