Poll on solving the imgur issue

[jayce]

It looks like imgur is no longer blocking the image proxy. I didn't change anything on the forum's end, so imgur must've loosened up their limits. I guess it's not necessary to convert img images into links as long as imgur keeps working. But to prevent this from happening again, you'll get an error if you try to embed imgur images in posts from now on.

I'd like to create a page which recommends services for hosting forum images, and mention this in the error message you get when you try to use imgur. Other than TalkImg, which ones are good?

Oh I was wondering why I can't upload one of my imgur images on the other thread, thanks for clearing it up! Regarding the other image hosting services, I hope no one mention imgbb lol. Talkimg is still the best one. I once used imagehost.at but they seem not so legit yet, though you could consider them as an alternative for urgent case.

[joker_josue]

Regarding the other image hosting services, I hope no one mention imgbb lol.

What is the problem with imgbb? It was a service I used before TalkImg.
Of course I'd rather they use TalkImg.   But it is to understand.

[jayce]

What is the problem with imgbb? It was a service I used before TalkImg.
Of course I'd rather they use TalkImg.   But it is to understand.

Not sure why but the last time I used imgbb, my images became smaller and had no idea to keep the original size lol.

[RickDeckard]

It looks like imgur is no longer blocking the image proxy. I didn't change anything on the forum's end, so imgur must've loosened up their limits. I guess it's not necessary to convert img images into links as long as imgur keeps working. But to prevent this from happening again, you'll get an error if you try to embed imgur images in posts from now on.

Good call regarding future uploads on imgur. However, has an opinion, I don't think we should relax with imgur loosening their limits because then we would just be in an illusion thinking that we are safe. What will happen if imgur decides to push their plan eventually in the future? Or starts implementing more enforced rules? I think that this change is good, mostly because it will give us some time to keep discussing the best way to preserve our forum history. But for that I think that it would be wise to continue discussing it, now a bit more relaxed indeed.

I'd like to create a page which recommends services for hosting forum images, and mention this in the error message you get when you try to use imgur. Other than TalkImg, which ones are good?

I personally use vgy.me[1] because I like their privacy statement[2] and never had problems with them (so far) but that mostly has to due with them also not having the same reach as imgur:

We only use your personal information to moderate the website, to remove content that violates our Terms of Service and to ban users who also violate the Terms of Service. Sending of e-mail is triggered by you, the user, when resetting your password or when registering an account with us, where you will receive an activation link via e-mail. We don't send you e-mails for any other reason.

Your IP address is used for moderation to link uploads to the same IP address (we occasionally get users who spam our uploader with hundreds, sometimes thousands of uploads). IP addresses are also logged for us to understand where most of our traffic comes from, so we can provide a better service.

3rd party services who use cookies to store data about your visit is not controlled by us.

If you don't like your information on our site, let us know - we'll get rid of it.

[1]https://vgy.me
[2]https://vgy.me/privacy-policy

[acroman08]

It looks like imgur is no longer blocking the image proxy. I didn't change anything on the forum's end, so imgur must've loosened up their limits. I guess it's not necessary to convert img images into links as long as imgur keeps working. But to prevent this from happening again, you'll get an error if you try to embed imgur images in posts from now on.

this is probably for the best. good work!

I'd like to create a page which recommends services for hosting forum images, and mention this in the error message you get when you try to use imgur. Other than TalkImg, which ones are good?

I just used imgbb recently once, so I can't really say much about the service but I've seen a lot of members use imgbb before, so I assume it works well.

I did not check any old Imgur images yet. Is it started working again?

on my side, every Imgur image that I have uploaded is working now

[rdluffy]

It looks like imgur is no longer blocking the image proxy. I didn't change anything on the forum's end, so imgur must've loosened up their limits. I guess it's not necessary to convert img images into links as long as imgur keeps working. But to prevent this from happening again, you'll get an error if you try to embed imgur images in posts from now on.

I'd like to create a page which recommends services for hosting forum images, and mention this in the error message you get when you try to use imgur. Other than TalkImg, which ones are good?

After I had problems with imgur (well before this problem on the forum), I used imgbb and never had any problems whatsoever.
I vote this service as a good recommendation besides talkimg

Not sure why but the last time I used imgbb, my images became smaller and had no idea to keep the original size lol.

After you hit the upload button you can chose one of these option below, and one of them is a thumbnail. I wonder if that is it.

[dkbit98]

I'd like to create a page which recommends services for hosting forum images, and mention this in the error message you get when you try to use imgur. Other than TalkImg, which ones are good?

Imgbb.com worked fine when I used it, and I saw other forum members saying that postimages.org is a good alternative.
Note that I didn't research how strict they are with proxy and other things, but it's certainly good to have several image uploading alternatives available.

[Timelord2067]

Other than TalkImg, which ones are good?

I use(d) Lightscreen to take and upload screenshots.  Its default website is imgur, however, there is a secondary website inbuilt "pomf-clone" which I can't say I've ever heard of, or have ever used.

An earlier version of Lightscreen had a third choice, but it's been long gone and again it wasn't one I ever used.

[famososMuertos]

I think that the option to not allow Imgur is fine from the point of view of the background that just happened, but technically it does not solve anything, in fact we veto ourselves, since any service can enter the same frequency either by the circumstance whatever.

I used various services even my account Twitter for my images a couple of times, but then this stopped working, so in the sense of thinking which service to use/recommend... is the user's dilemma that complements it with the [img] rules, then, for now a Very explicit, do not use Imgur, size 2.5 MB, JPG, PNG, GIF...

Finally it is obvious that the first option "today" is talkimg but based on what happened and on the bad habit of believing that cloud services are going to be eternal, it is good to recommend that (@users) have your own backup, chiefly for those images that correspond, especially those that can be called original, the only secure accommodation is one that does not depend on third parties, and in terms of backup, thanks to loyce for supporting that number of images.

I think that for those of us who like to add "1000 words"/images to our posts from time to time, this ending is very happy, once again thanks to everyone who tried and made it possible to see alternatives.

I think that any hosting site can serve as long as the forum allows it, obviously talkimg, imgBB, imgbox, this site work without restrictions and without registration. It also works postimages but the browser-connection issue you use may be annoying, no registration required. I repeat that the user should choose, there are even payment options, that option is viable for the ANN.

[PrimeNumber7]

2: Make it so that all past imgur embedded images show up as a clickable link instead of as an embedded image, as if the poster had just posted the imgur link instead of using the [img] tag. I could also maybe make it so that if you click the link, it will JavaScript-expand into an embedded image (using the specified width etc.) without going through the image proxy.

3: Exempt imgur links from the image proxy so they all just work. But this has privacy implications, since imgur will see forum users' IPs. Also, imgur has apparently banned a lot of Tor exit nodes etc. as well, so imgur images won't work for everyone.

This appears to be somewhat of a moot point, because it looks like the underlying issue has resolved itself.

If something similar pops up in the future, I think a good first step would be to reach out to the image hosting site in question to see if they can provide a solution that doesn’t compromise privacy. Perhaps they would be willing to whitelist the forums image proxy.

If the above fails, I think forum members should have the individual option to choose between 2 and 3, with 2 being the default and for guests. If someone understands the privacy implications and is willing to allow Imgur to know their IP address is associated with someone who accesses the forum, they can have reduced privacy in exchange for being able to see the original images.

There are many forum members who very much value their privacy and they likely don’t want Imgur knowing that their IP address accessed the forum.

[LoyceV]

to prevent this from happening again, you'll get an error if you try to embed imgur images in posts from now on.

This also means old posts can no longer be edited without replacing the image links (I just tested it).

[rat03gopoh]

I've been switching from imgur to imgbb for quite a while due to better settings, no failures whatsoever so far. If I had to vote for image hosting other than talkimg, I'd go with imgbb. The only annoying thing is that maybe you'll see ad pop ups after several page switches.

[skarais]

I've been switching from imgur to imgbb for quite a while due to better settings, no failures whatsoever so far. If I had to vote for image hosting other than talkimg, I'd go with imgbb. The only annoying thing is that maybe you'll see ad pop ups after several page switches.

Apart from imgur, I also used imgbb for a long time. So far I haven't had much trouble with ads as it only takes me a minimum of 1 minute to upload the image and get the link, but I think TalkImg is also good recommendation. I haven't tried TalkImg on many occasions but will probably give it a go since the service seems to be special-made for bitcointalk users.

Imgbb and TalkImg are fine.

[IIrik11]

i vote for 'do nothing'

seriously, i don't think it is that big of a problem.

people can go back to their posts and change links to other image-hosting services..

if they desire to do so.. but no one even read old posts.

i know im nobody and my opinion doesn't count..

 but i think doing nothing is the best solution here.

[LoyceV]

no one even read old posts.

You couldn't be more wrong. See this 2015-post for instance, which has 53 imgur images. Preserving Bitcointalk history is needed.

[RickDeckard]

i vote for 'do nothing'

seriously, i don't think it is that big of a problem.

people can go back to their posts and change links to other image-hosting services..

The main problem is that there is a large % of good threads with a trove of information from users that, for numerous reasons, aren't active anymore (and may never be).

if they desire to do so.. but no one even read old posts.

Being able to revisit some threads with excellent discussions regarding certain topics either in the beginning of Bitcoin development or recently, is something that has brought me joy and knowledge that I wouldn't be able to achieve somewhere else. More specifically, on the top of my mind, I have this image of myself pursuing DannyHamilton replies just for the sheer reason that his way of talking and explaining Bitcoin was so concise and resourceful, something that for sure helped me grasp my (still limited) knowledge regarding Bitcoin (this also applies to a number of other users as well).
Like with everything that has happened with Humanity (and has brought us to this precise moment), we should always thrive to preserve the best that we can for future generations, especially a place that was the second birthplace of Bitcoin (I'm considering the cryptography mailing list[1] to be the "navel of Bitcoin").

i know im nobody and my opinion doesn't count..

You shouldn't think like that. Every opinion counts, each with their advantages and disadvantages, but if you don't share yours, you'll never know what people think of it  .
[1]http://satoshinakamoto.me/source/cryptography-mail-list/?order=asc
[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navel_of_the_World_(disambiguation)

[theymos]

to prevent this from happening again, you'll get an error if you try to embed imgur images in posts from now on.

This also means old posts can no longer be edited without replacing the image links (I just tested it).

It's based on the message ID. Posts before roughly when I posted that can be edited without updating the imgur links.

[LoyceV]

It's based on the message ID. Posts before roughly when I posted that can be edited without updating the imgur links.

Maybe I accidentally used quote instead of edit when I got this error. I can't reproduce it anymore, so all good

[shahzadafzal]

It looks like imgur is no longer blocking the image proxy. I didn't change anything on the forum's end, so imgur must've loosened up their limits. I guess it's not necessary to convert img images into links as long as imgur keeps working. But to prevent this from happening again, you'll get an error if you try to embed imgur images in posts from now on.

Ahh big relief…!!!

Maybe reporting the issue to Imgur worked (I also submitted three different tickets) and they allowed bitcointalk

Yes it’s no longer necessary to convert img tags to links.

I also think since it’s working “doing nothing” is much better option. We shouldn’t prevent imgur links, since we don’t know if imgur or imgbb or any other service will stop working again. Lets suppose imgur keeps working but imgbb stops then what?

So much simpler solution is “doing nothing”, it’s working

I'd like to create a page which recommends services for hosting forum images, and mention this in the error message you get when you try to use imgur. Other than TalkImg, which ones are good?

I don’t think bitcointalk should be recommending any of image hosting service, unless it’s owned by bitcointalk, taking over talkimg is an option. But recommending any other service is not an ideal move.

[logfiles]

I personally use vgy.me[1] because I like their privacy statement[2] and never had problems with them (so far) but that mostly has to due with them also not having the same reach as imgur

vgy.me is also pretty fucked.

I tried using it a few days back after the Imgur chaos, but had the image showed up a proxy error. Turns out, the image had even been deleted. Not sure why. Also, I think vgy.me is one of those service that will disappear overnight due to It's less popularity. Now, you don't want your 5 years of screenshots disappearing overnight.