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June 02, 2023, 02:55:22 PM
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Modernization that is happening in almost all fields will of course make less and less use of human power, I work in a ceramics factory and the company modernizes the production process to packing and the result is around 75% of employees losing their jobs and this of course makes us sad after the development of Chatgpt.


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June 02, 2023, 06:06:20 PM
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Since ChatGPT was launched in November last year, this AI technology has created a huge response across the globe.  This technology has gained so much popularity that people are using this technology in almost every field. Any math can be easily solved through this technology, any unknown matter can be easily known through this technology, so there is a lot of doubt in everyone's mind about this technology that this technology will destroy the job market or not? 

When asked about this, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said the technology will never destroy the job market. Rather, this technology will solve things that people never know about.  Since all tasks can be solved easily through this technology, this bot system may be used instead of humans in various work fields. 
If this technology is used in the workplace, many people will lose their jobs.
We are far from the perfect AI technology, chatGPT is just an infant and its only for text but already there are many AI has been developed for other things too. If you ask the AI will take over jobs in future then yes definitely there will be no need for drivers when auto pilot cars and trucks filled in the roads and also I read many jobs related to medicine field maybe replaced by AI for sure.

However there will always be opportunity for jobs but the only thing the field will keep changing over time.









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June 02, 2023, 06:52:03 PM
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AI technology is being misused rather than utilized for assistance as you pointed out. Despite the fact that OpenAI launched ChatGPT specifically to aid people and not to take away jobs or exclude individuals from employment we see examples of ChatGPT being abused on this forum and reports of users posting inappropriate material with its help. OpenAI CEO Sam Altman stresses that AI is there to improve human capabilities and knowledge not to eliminate jobs. It eliminates repetitive tasks allowing humans to concentrate on more intricate work. To succeed it is critical to adapt and develop new skills that complement AI. In order to appropriately incorporate AI it is crucial to prioritize worker welfare and ethical conduct inclusivity should be promoted and opportunities for retraining should be provided. Although the bot, ChatGPT, has exhibited unethical behaviors OpenAI seeks to provide support rather than replace jobs. Instances of misapplication demonstrate the necessity for responsible usage.
Even if it was being used for assistance, sometimes it overdelivers and some startup business surely used ChatGPT more than just hiring developers. Just because it cannot do anything that a developer can't do does not mean it can't still improve in the upcoming years.

Although to be fair, just like I mentioned in the previous reply here, it could still be open to more jobs since dealing with AI let alone ChatGPT isn't just typing in the chat simply. There are those such things as prompt engineering and you might still need to know on how to deal with an AI. That would mean that it might still be open to more opportunity/jobs.

I can still recall back in the days when I try to automate filling up Excel sheets using Selenium with Python language.

We are far from the perfect AI technology, chatGPT is just an infant and its only for text but already there are many AI has been developed for other things too. If you ask the AI will take over jobs in future then yes definitely there will be no need for drivers when auto pilot cars and trucks filled in the roads and also I read many jobs related to medicine field maybe replaced by AI for sure.

However there will always be opportunity for jobs but the only thing the field will keep changing over time.
Someone still has to maintain the software anyway. Maybe the scary part would be if AI would fix itself. There will always be a bug in a software and someone still has to fix those recurring bugs and maintain it.
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June 02, 2023, 07:28:38 PM
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This is how technological innovation has worked in the past, but people don't realize that technological innovation in the past hasn't actually mimicked human intelligence. Previous technology, computers specifically, have the ability to repeat commands at a high rate. But that's their limitation, reading a script and execution a function. AI mimic humans and their judgement, and AI will work cheaper than humans.

Take the jobs generated from AI and you still don't have a net gain in jobs from the number of jobs displaced. The solution isn't just to tell people that they should adapt skills and force them to compete with AI. Doesn't work that way, it's a losing battle.

ChatGPT isn't very impressive to me, to be frank. But what will the next iteration of ChatGPT look like, say, 20 years from now.
We are the creator on which it would be understandable that we are far more superior which is something that it is really that understandable but due to additional and advancement then it do really surpasses out human intelligence but this is something situational because we know that upgrades and improvements is really something that be added and applied but there are really key areas on which AI cant be able to touch up
other than humans itself. There might be some jobs that would really be replaced by AI but this wont really be totally be occupying on lots of industries but it wont be shocking if it would really be
dominated most of those positions which it could be somewhat applied. Company owners would really be that going into something which automation is indeed precise when it comes to support and other
passing up information kind of function and other similar relevance into this kind of field.

I'm not suggesting "true" AI isn't possible. I'm suggesting the opposite. Actual AI is coming and will displace jobs. The current iteration leaves us with at least a couple decades before we have the crisis of millions of jobs being displaced.

Eventually human intelligence will be mimicked which will automate away jobs which will be irreplaceable. Assume by default that industries will see some millions of displaced workers unless there's evidence to indicate otherwise.

Knowing previous technological innovations, jobs have always been displaced. But new ones were created. AI eliminates the creation of new jobs by inherent nature.
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June 02, 2023, 07:48:41 PM
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When asked about this, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said the technology will never destroy the job market. Rather, this technology will solve things that people never know about.  Since all tasks can be solved easily through this technology, this bot system may be used instead of humans in various work fields. 
If this technology is used in the workplace, many people will lose their jobs.
Short Answer --> AI (current AI) can not replace or destroy the job market

Long Answer --> Let's understand a scenario first, back in the 2000s or maybe before it many code or program code maker applications were developed which could write some lines of code to make a program and people used to say this will replace programmers job (resource --> heard it in an interview), Second scenario is when Tesla represented its idea of the automatic cars (autopilot) and many people debated how it will end the career of Taxi, Uber, etc.

Now, we can check in the past there were many technologies that made people think that they will replace human labor. No wonder many machines have been successful enough to replace humans such as in the industrial production of cars, bikes, and other things but still there is a need for humans to operate them, even if you are using a Tesla you have to keep pre-cautions or if you are using those program code generators before the 2000s, you still need a human to give a good command so that you could generate a code output.

The point is, AI might destroy the jobs by reducing the number of job holders but job holders will find another way as they will elevate their level of skills which is much better for the evolution of new technologies. if you didn't understand my point then take an example again. Let's take my example, i am a computer science student who studies in a low-grade University where teachers do not know how to teach as they are not experts in the subjects they are teaching us, So i personally depend on ChatGpt to get answers to my every query even i ask gpt to read long research papers for me and shorten it to few paragraphs for easy reading When i do not understand something i just put a simple command " i am not a technical person please help me to understand this topic" and boom it teaches me better then my teachers, and you assume if i am learning better, whose benefit in it, (ok i am not that bright student but let's replace a bright one with me) then how much impact he could make with enhance and understandable knowledge he is acquiring.

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June 02, 2023, 10:44:42 PM
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The level of mass delusion in this thread is astounding. No one can actually point to any specific reason why would humans be irreplaceable. The only argument is "it has not happened in the past, therefore it will never happen".

It reminded me of this old video, in which author is showing how dumb this argument sounds when we try to apply the same logic to horses (from 3:30):

https://youtu.be/7Pq-S557XQU?t=211

It doesn't take much effort to google and find out that AI is already affecting the job market.

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June 02, 2023, 11:33:27 PM
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I never said that, people are replaceable but the big point missed is that society gains from the task more easily done by an automated construction such as an engine or modern tech like this is no different to the other progressive replacement of people seen by machines.  We gained from industry doing basic labor jobs more easily and efficiently, we'll gain from this too.
  The point is it helps us more then it holds us back, if chatgpt can repeat search engine information to supply an answer faster and quicker then a person then great.  The person is capable of more then the bot in recalling information, the person should be doing more important work.  If the capitalist market says you do another job and should find a path to do it then its a gain all round, we dont have plain capitalist market economies anyway people are helped to transfer in their jobs very often.

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On the same thing about ChatGPT, Sam Altman have said it won't destroy the job market. The innovation doesn't mean there is no job to be done by the humans. The main purpose behind ChatGPT is to serve the human beings with assistance. Having assistance will help in getting works done faster. Maybe this is how Sam Altman looks ChatGPT, but surely it'll have some destruction in the job market in my understanding. When something is progressive, there'll be something that needs to give way. This is how the job market gonna get affected with the existence of ChatGPT.

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June 03, 2023, 06:02:29 AM
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When asked about this, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said the technology will never destroy the job market. Rather, this technology will solve things that people never know about.  Since all tasks can be solved easily through this technology, this bot system may be used instead of humans in various work fields. 
If this technology is used in the workplace, many people will lose their jobs.

ChatGPT will definitely have impacts on the job market, there is no point to argue around it. The  vast amount of data and text that can be produced with ChatGPT offers opportunity in almost every sector. Companies can't stay away from it for too long, it's going to become mandatory. In my opinion the lower skilled jobs are at risk to be taken over by ChatGPT the earliest. But this will also create new jobs, there still needs to be some form of control and oversight over the bots. I would also expect the service industry to grow with the bots, at first it might be nice to communicate with AIs. But eventually humans will prefer to communicate with other humans again. There could be some new premium services that offer human interaction. Also the more we work from home with no contact with other humans the more interesting it becomes to go out in the evening. There could be a rise of restaurants and bars that leads to more people working in the service industry. 
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Many countries Bannde ChatGPT for fear of making big changes for work, will automatically continue to develop and make many people unemployed, but I'm sure the development and use of chatgpt will not be stopped because of future trends and effective, accurate and efficient industrial needs, as humans We must be prepared and find solutions to be able to compete when chatgpt is legalized
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 #131

Technology improves people's standard of living and hence should be welcomed. Recently some people may have temporary difficulties because Chat GPT is approaching something that was never imagined. Because of that, there will definitely be difficulties in some workplaces. This matter has already been widely discussed in various media of the world. Many people are going to lose their jobs. But there is another point that is emphasized that this risk is more for those who perform online based tasks because Chap GT is able to do any simple task in a short time. So with the development of technology, people have no choice but to keep up-to-date quickly.
I think it depends on the technology because there are also some who only destroy the peoples lives. It also depends on the people. As long as they use the Technology properly and have limitations, they will only attain the benefits and not the disadvantages. I don't know what happens to Chatgpt on why some are having a difficulty.

This is only just a software and people can just ignore it if it is making their lives miserable. If it's about losing a job, I don't think workers will allow this shit to take over. Given that there are risks when using a Chatgpt, business owners aren't likely considering this as a replacement to the human workers. If this affects their company, that will be a big problem instead of being practical.

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June 04, 2023, 01:41:20 PM
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Since ChatGPT was launched in November last year, this AI technology has created a huge response across the globe.  This technology has gained so much popularity that people are using this technology in almost every field. Any math can be easily solved through this technology, any unknown matter can be easily known through this technology, so there is a lot of doubt in everyone's mind about this technology that this technology will destroy the job market or not? 

When asked about this, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said the technology will never destroy the job market. Rather, this technology will solve things that people never know about.  Since all tasks can be solved easily through this technology, this bot system may be used instead of humans in various work fields. 
If this technology is used in the workplace, many people will lose their jobs.
I feel like it would be very important to learn how to use it though, a CEO will not go about using chatgpt or any other AI themselves, it is not going to be them making a deal out of it, maybe startups would use it at first, or maybe one person company with no employee would, but big companies won't. So, you would still be hired, instead of someone who knows about some other software we had so far, we are going to be asked the AI version instead.

I am sure that from personal assistant to designer, everyone in between as well, used some software at their work so far, it would just simply turn into an AI software that you can use, and that's why more people would be able to do it but you would still be using it, worker will still be needed, because CEO won't do it anyway.

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Technology improves people's standard of living and hence should be welcomed. Recently some people may have temporary difficulties because Chat GPT is approaching something that was never imagined. Because of that, there will definitely be difficulties in some workplaces. This matter has already been widely discussed in various media of the world. Many people are going to lose their jobs. But there is another point that is emphasized that this risk is more for those who perform online based tasks because Chap GT is able to do any simple task in a short time. So with the development of technology, people have no choice but to keep up-to-date quickly.
I think it depends on the technology because there are also some who only destroy the peoples lives. It also depends on the people. As long as they use the Technology properly and have limitations, they will only attain the benefits and not the disadvantages. I don't know what happens to Chatgpt on why some are having a difficulty.

This is only just a software and people can just ignore it if it is making their lives miserable. If it's about losing a job, I don't think workers will allow this shit to take over. Given that there are risks when using a Chatgpt, business owners aren't likely considering this as a replacement to the human workers. If this affects their company, that will be a big problem instead of being practical.

Exactly, companies wouldn't risk their reputation by just using AI as their tool to their work. Its actually not a good idea especially when it got leaked that some companies are relying into AI instead of doing some research which is more accurate. Some people think it could replace the workers but it won't since it's just a convenient tool made for us, but in our history there's a lot of job that has been overtaken by the technology already but so far in this new introduced AI it wouldn't be a threat. Companies still need a brain where it could do tasks that AI couldn't do like emailing.

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June 04, 2023, 02:45:03 PM
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Technology improves people's standard of living and hence should be welcomed. Recently some people may have temporary difficulties because Chat GPT is approaching something that was never imagined. Because of that, there will definitely be difficulties in some workplaces. This matter has already been widely discussed in various media of the world. Many people are going to lose their jobs. But there is another point that is emphasized that this risk is more for those who perform online based tasks because Chap GT is able to do any simple task in a short time. So with the development of technology, people have no choice but to keep up-to-date quickly.
I think it depends on the technology because there are also some who only destroy the peoples lives. It also depends on the people. As long as they use the Technology properly and have limitations, they will only attain the benefits and not the disadvantages. I don't know what happens to Chatgpt on why some are having a difficulty.

This is only just a software and people can just ignore it if it is making their lives miserable. If it's about losing a job, I don't think workers will allow this shit to take over. Given that there are risks when using a Chatgpt, business owners aren't likely considering this as a replacement to the human workers. If this affects their company, that will be a big problem instead of being practical.

Exactly, companies wouldn't risk their reputation by just using AI as their tool to their work. Its actually not a good idea especially when it got leaked that some companies are relying into AI instead of doing some research which is more accurate. Some people think it could replace the workers but it won't since it's just a convenient tool made for us, but in our history there's a lot of job that has been overtaken by the technology already but so far in this new introduced AI it wouldn't be a threat. Companies still need a brain where it could do tasks that AI couldn't do like emailing.

At the moment its just a convenient tool made for us. Why do people bother to use it
and make it more and more acceptable to do so?

At what point will someone engage AI to research a particular topic and use ChatGPT
to research the internet instead of hiring a human to do so?

A "convenient tool" can easily become too convenient and the go-to means because its
a "convenient FREE tool"

At what point in the future with engaging AI instead of a human to do research
become the everyday norm? if it means humans can save money it will become
the everyday norm, we generally ignore warning signs if it challenges our ability to
make more and more money.

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June 04, 2023, 04:16:15 PM
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I believe that if AI is replacing human labor in a specific field, it means that job isn't necessary anymore. It doesn't have a reason to exist anymore, and if it still existed, it would be solely in proof of charity for someone in order to not let him without an income. AI will really destroy some niches of jobs market, but that is inevitable taking evolution and technological development in consideration. It's not a new phenomenon in this world to see this happening.

What people have to do is to adapt themselves to the currently reality the world is facing. To explore or create new niches of jobs market. To make themselves useful for the new demands the world is imposing on the people. To protest against AI asking for a kind of censorship against it won't work, as it has never worked so far in humanity's history...

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June 04, 2023, 06:23:37 PM
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Many countries Bannde ChatGPT for fear of making big changes for work, will automatically continue to develop and make many people unemployed, but I'm sure the development and use of chatgpt will not be stopped because of future trends and effective, accurate and efficient industrial needs, as humans We must be prepared and find solutions to be able to compete when chatgpt is legalized
People should also change with the change of era. And if man cannot adopt with the time then he must fall back. If people are afraid of chat GPT then there is nothing to do because instead they should try how they can make themselves more efficient. There are some downsides to using chat GPT based on which many countries are planning to ban it but according to the up gradation of technology AI tools including chat GPT are being used more and more.

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June 04, 2023, 07:37:17 PM
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Since all tasks can be solved easily through this technology, this bot system may be used instead of humans in various work fields. 
If this technology is used in the workplace, many people will lose their jobs.
Used in place of humans,
Technology can never replace humans. ChatGPT only accesses the information that exists online and have been fed to it by you and I. Therr isn't anything more than that and at most, it could be wrong too, don't you think. Giving you information in the context that isn't of much importance.

Be it as  it may, the human perspective is unique and that's something some bot can't handle. While ChatGPT might help you to understand better, there would always be limitations to it.

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June 04, 2023, 10:36:57 PM
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Chatgpt will not be a threat to us,

Don't say that; most of the technology we are using today has good intentions and has made our lives easier, but few of them are at a greater disadvantage than the major purpose they were built for. If ChatGPT operates the way it is programmed to operate and is integrated into a talking machine, what else do you think the real world will need some teachers for? When all they have to do is buy some machines and let them speak and educate their students, by doing so they will reduce the number of needed teachers in every given institution. Which will increase the number of unemployed citizens; on the other hand, business owners will see it as a means to save up fewer funds.

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but AI, and robots will be the things that will probably take our jobs later. I think our world is moving

This is the reason why most scientists and other world researchers are already fighting against the rapid growth of this so-called robot and AI adoption, because a time will come when those machines will reprogram themselves to harm their developers. Everything in this world has its place, and those machines should just be used for their intended purposes and nothing more than that.

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towards a world like sci-fi movies where humanity will be enslaved to Robot and AI. And they will not only take our jobs, but also rule the world. Just like money is a human invention, but today we are serving money, it is not serving us.

It's only the greedy that worship money; money is meant to be earned, made, and used for the exchange of our daily needs and nothing more than that. It's those who want more from money and are doing something extra ordinary just to make that money, for which they can't even define the real purpose of why they need it, who should be classified as people worshipping money, not everyone.

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June 04, 2023, 11:47:51 PM
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Many countries Bannde ChatGPT for fear of making big changes for work, will automatically continue to develop and make many people unemployed, but I'm sure the development and use of chatgpt will not be stopped because of future trends and effective, accurate and efficient industrial needs, as humans We must be prepared and find solutions to be able to compete when chatgpt is legalized
You're mistaken, many European countries have banned Chatgpt because of privacy, it collects too much user data without their permission. They are not afraid it will affect the job market, even they don't care about it because our world is becoming modern, technology development is inevitable. Moreover, how an automated talking tool can destroy the job market. Is that too absurd?

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Banning something is hardly an effective strategy, maybe you can control the cotton and material making industry of a local economy but here we are talking about information handling.   To ban just means to ask 'please another country, other people take this business away as we prefer to work longer hours on repetitious tasks'.  They will block any import of that product at a lower cost then we can do; this is just the thinking of a dictator manipulating their country to their own advantage.
  Society wont gain from banning the use of technology any more then it did in attempts to do so hundreds of years ago as in every advance forward people feared and attempted to obstruct it; perfectly natural reaction but an economy is indirect and macro picture view to gains a nation might realize in sum total.

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