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November 02, 2023, 12:00:46 PM
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Yes I am with you here. I saw the game Galatasaray-Bayern Munich and if they repeat that game exactly like that a dozen of times, Galatasaray wins it 80% of the time I think. They had far superior chances and dominated the game really for 70 minutes, it was crazy to watch. But they defeated themselves because if you don't turn those opportunities into goals, it is almost inevitable to lose the game against Bayern Munich eventually. They could have had a lead of maybe 2-0 or on a lucky day 3-0. I think if they scored the first goal, Bayern Munich might have collapsed in that game.

Group A stats, Bayern Munich ranked first, Galatasaray sitting second, while Manchester United 4th and Copenhagen sits bottom with just a point. Galatasaray losing 3-1 at the Türk Telekom Stadı was pure humiliation, given their best performance but having unexpected results was not the plan. The Bavarians came prepared and deserved good points after netting three goals against the home team. Galatasaray failed to convert most of their chances to goals, they maintain constant pressure but netting goals against their visitors, was denied.

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November 02, 2023, 12:03:39 PM
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Manchester united and Galatasaray will compete for the second spot in group A table. Bayern Munich have accumulated the desirable number of points and they will easily pass qualify for the next phase. Where we have problem is Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen, which of these teams will make it to the second spot. It's not going to be easy game that will be play, because these three mention clubs are very competitive towards each other. But I strongly believe United will follow the footsteps of Bayern Munich and qualify, they have good chances.
I am not too sure that MU will be ranked 2nd in group A with 3 more matches left for a total of 6 matches, Mu suffered another defeat with Newcastle 0-3, I am much more confident that Galatasaray will enter the next top 16. Even though next week they will face quite tough opponents, at least they will provide resistance in the match. I have high hopes that they will end in a draw in the match, so that the point difference is maintained.
The chance is quite bigger consider manchester united needs only to compete with galatasaray and copenhagen at this momeny. The only way for mu to do that in getting 6 points from galatasaray and copenhagen. Im thinking that if galatasaray will be losing against bayern munchen on the second leg but Mu needs also to get three points from copenhagen. This will be also creating gap between united and copenhagen at this moment. People are being so pessimistic caused by the inconsistent performance that is still showing by manchester united at this moment.
The possible scenario to make manchesterunited qualified for the next round only if MU will able to beat galatasaray.

We can imagine that if manchester united will get three points from copenhagen while galatasaray will be getting zero from bayern. This will make MU has 3 points gap compared with galatasaray. Winning against galatasaray will make manchester united will able to be qualified for the next round.
This is the key point if MU was willing to be qualified for the next round. I knew that many people are doubting manchester united at this moment but i do know that if MU can do that.

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November 02, 2023, 12:31:08 PM
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I am not too sure that MU will be ranked 2nd in group A with 3 more matches left for a total of 6 matches, Mu suffered another defeat with Newcastle 0-3, I am much more confident that Galatasaray will enter the next top 16. Even though next week they will face quite tough opponents, at least they will provide resistance in the match. I have high hopes that they will end in a draw in the match, so that the point difference is maintained.

There is nothing special that makes Manchester United able to advance with Bayern Munich to the round of 16 and I agree with you that Galatassaray deserves it more than Manchester United. Galatassaray can make good use of the remaining three matches with a difference of 1 point by holding Bayern Munich to a draw and beating Manchester United and Copenhagen. So that will maintain their chances of becoming runners up in Group A. Meanwhile, in my opinion, it is very impossible for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich, so they have almost no chance of qualifying.
Manchester United still has the opportunity to qualify from the group phase and accompany Bayern Munchen to the last 16, of course not with the performance shown in their last two matches. If United succeed in beating Copenhagen again in the second leg then they will be one step closer, because at the same time I doubt Galatasaray can beat Munchen. If this happens, the Ten Hag squad will occupy second place in Group A with 6 points, and Galatasaray will stumble and have to be willing to occupy third place in the standings.

This scenario is fairly easy and seems like it can be realized by United, I really understand their current situation, and I have to admit that nothing looks special about them this season. Because Ten Hag must understand that his job could end sooner before the season ends, if he fails to get 3 points in the match against Copenhagen.

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November 02, 2023, 01:14:19 PM
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There is nothing special that makes Manchester United able to advance with Bayern Munich to the round of 16 and I agree with you that Galatassaray deserves it more than Manchester United. Galatassaray can make good use of the remaining three matches with a difference of 1 point by holding Bayern Munich to a draw and beating Manchester United and Copenhagen. So that will maintain their chances of becoming runners up in Group A. Meanwhile, in my opinion, it is very impossible for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich, so they have almost no chance of qualifying.
I'm not as optimistic as you about Galatasaray, of course I admit they have a chance of getting through to the last 16 but ignoring Manchester United completely is bad. Manchester United and all the teams in group A have a chance regardless of how good their chances are, but underestimating any of them is a mistake in my opinion.

I, you and anyone here cannot confirm anything before all these teams finish their respective matches. In my opinion, one of Galatasaray and Manchester United deserves to accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16 this season, but it all really depends on how the two of them end the next 3 matches. Both of them will definitely fight for 1 place, the opportunities are not much different and relatively the same.
Exactly, the qualification to round of 16 is still open to both Manchester United and Galatassaray, because U can say that Bayern Munich is not as strong as they use to be. So if they manage to win Manchester United, doesn't mean that United won't try to fight back and make sure that they win the other games and qualify.

However, Galatassaray really tried in their games but that hasn't given them the guarantee that they will automatically qualify without facing the challenged on the field. Football is full of surprises and nobody can say what will happen next. I am not trying to say that Manchester United performance is better than Galatassaray this season but there is still hope for Manchester United to qualify.

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November 02, 2023, 01:40:28 PM
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I have a slightly different opinion from yours. I believe that PSG and Newcastle will be the next two teams to advance. The upcoming head-to-head match between them and Dortmund can be considered the deciding game for the second spot. It would add more drama if PSG loses to Milan, and Newcastle and Dortmund draw. In such a scenario, the group's excitement will persist until the final matches.
I have always said that Manchester United have good players but they have failed to perform well with good players. They are certainly a popular club but they are not a well performing club at the moment. I must say they are performing poorly this season as per the way they performed last season. They are able to play in the Champions League this season because of their relatively good performance last season, but the way they are performing in the English Premier League this season makes it doubtful whether they will be able to qualify for the Europa League. Since we believe they have good quality players in their club then why Manchester United are not performing well even with good quality players in their club. Where is their problem?

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November 02, 2023, 01:48:15 PM
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There is nothing special that makes Manchester United able to advance with Bayern Munich to the round of 16 and I agree with you that Galatassaray deserves it more than Manchester United. Galatassaray can make good use of the remaining three matches with a difference of 1 point by holding Bayern Munich to a draw and beating Manchester United and Copenhagen. So that will maintain their chances of becoming runners up in Group A. Meanwhile, in my opinion, it is very impossible for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich, so they have almost no chance of qualifying.
I'm not as optimistic as you about Galatasaray, of course I admit they have a chance of getting through to the last 16 but ignoring Manchester United completely is bad. Manchester United and all the teams in group A have a chance regardless of how good their chances are, but underestimating any of them is a mistake in my opinion.

I, you and anyone here cannot confirm anything before all these teams finish their respective matches. In my opinion, one of Galatasaray and Manchester United deserves to accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16 this season, but it all really depends on how the two of them end the next 3 matches. Both of them will definitely fight for 1 place, the opportunities are not much different and relatively the same.
Maybe I underestimated Manchester United too much and I didn't even give them the slightest chance of qualifying, but keep in mind this team is very messy and will not be able to be helped this season. Just being able to get to the group stage is already a good achievement and they have to learn again to come back next season.

As a big team, Manchester United should not embarrass its fans, but this has happened so many times that the fans' hopes have certainly disappeared for now. Even if they can recover, it will be a momentary miracle and not their best performance. Currently they are still quite far from the highest level of European competition and even in the domestic league they are often embarrassed by their opponents.
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November 02, 2023, 02:16:34 PM
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Yes I am with you here. I saw the game Galatasaray-Bayern Munich and if they repeat that game exactly like that a dozen of times, Galatasaray wins it 80% of the time I think. They had far superior chances and dominated the game really for 70 minutes, it was crazy to watch. But they defeated themselves because if you don't turn those opportunities into goals, it is almost inevitable to lose the game against Bayern Munich eventually. They could have had a lead of maybe 2-0 or on a lucky day 3-0. I think if they scored the first goal, Bayern Munich might have collapsed in that game.

Group A stats, Bayern Munich ranked first, Galatasaray sitting second, while Manchester United 4th and Copenhagen sits bottom with just a point. Galatasaray losing 3-1 at the Türk Telekom Stadı was pure humiliation, given their best performance but having unexpected results was not the plan. The Bavarians came prepared and deserved good points after netting three goals against the home team. Galatasaray failed to convert most of their chances to goals, they maintain constant pressure but netting goals against their visitors, was denied.

I think everything is pretty much predictable in this group and considering the performance we have seen from Manchester United, they literally have to chance to pass this stage, maybe Bayern Munich is going to finish the group in the first place and I think Galatasaray was very lucky because if Manchester United was in good form, they could not have any chance to reach the second place of this group.
  

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November 02, 2023, 02:21:43 PM
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Manchester United is a good team but they are not in good form right now. If you search for Manchester United in the English Premier League, you will find Manchester United fail in the English Premier League, if you search for Manchester United in the Champions League, you will find Manchester United fail in the Champions League. It is natural to lower expectations of a team that fails in every area. Galatasaray Manchester United is a strong enough team but I can't give any guarantee for Manchester United that Manchester United will do well against Galatasaray. Galatasaray is one of the best teams in the Turkish league, so you can be sure that Manchester United's match against them will not be easy at all.
since the bad situation that Man United experienced, most fans and some people have found it more difficult to believe that Man United will be able to compete with Galatasaray, even though they dont look very strong, Galatasaray is able to put very strong pressure on Man United and there may be a little confusion here who has the right to qualify, but I would not expect Man United to qualify, but I just want to see MU maximize its performance to be able to compete competitively in UCL matches.

moreover, currently, for me, MU has started to improve little in the EPL, its just that their consistency still a little weak and we should still give Ten Hag the opportunity to give a better effort than this.

MU must win against Galatasaray to help Ten Hag's chair shake less and win the first points in the Champions League. Galatasaray is a very classy opponent. Galatasaray is in high form, with an unbeaten streak in all matches. Statistics also show that MU did not play too prominently in the clash with Galatasaray. MU with home field advantage, will definitely not be able to play defense. If both teams score, the possibility of the match at Old Trafford exceeding the 2-goal mark is very high. I hope victory will be on MU's side.


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November 02, 2023, 02:24:05 PM
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I am not too sure that MU will be ranked 2nd in group A with 3 more matches left for a total of 6 matches, Mu suffered another defeat with Newcastle 0-3, I am much more confident that Galatasaray will enter the next top 16. Even though next week they will face quite tough opponents, at least they will provide resistance in the match. I have high hopes that they will end in a draw in the match, so that the point difference is maintained.

There is nothing special that makes Manchester United able to advance with Bayern Munich to the round of 16 and I agree with you that Galatassaray deserves it more than Manchester United. Galatassaray can make good use of the remaining three matches with a difference of 1 point by holding Bayern Munich to a draw and beating Manchester United and Copenhagen. So that will maintain their chances of becoming runners up in Group A. Meanwhile, in my opinion, it is very impossible for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich, so they have almost no chance of qualifying.

The outcome from this group is still very hard to predict. Im not discredit manchester united but if it keeps perform like shit against newcastle and i see no chance for united to be qualified for the knock out. UCl needs more than mentality.
There must be a good bound between any players to create synchronization in the club. Manchester united will not able to pass it if ten hag will not even doing significant changes. Im aware MU didn't have good line up at this moment but it's ten hag's responsibility to be ready with any problems that were occuring in manchester united. The chance of manchester united to pass the group stage will be determine in the upcoming match.

Galatasaray will be the top contender, especially with Bayern leading the group stage. Numerous people are also waiting for what changes to be made by ten hag.

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November 02, 2023, 03:21:55 PM
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MU must win against Galatasaray to help Ten Hag's chair shake less and win the first points in the Champions League. Galatasaray is a very classy opponent. Galatasaray is in high form, with an unbeaten streak in all matches. Statistics also show that MU did not play too prominently in the clash with Galatasaray. MU with home field advantage, will definitely not be able to play defense. If both teams score, the possibility of the match at Old Trafford exceeding the 2-goal mark is very high. I hope victory will be on MU's side.
Galatasaray is currently in a good form and will definitely be able to put up good resistance against any team that looks bigger than them both in the UCL and their domestic league aswell, but they have also suffered a loss to Bayern Munich in the UCL, they are not unbeaten.

Manchester united happens to be the bookies favourite in their next fixture against Copenhagen, on their first meeting with Copenhagen, Manchester united won and that happens to be the only win they have gotten so far in the UCL, Manchester united has in recent time not been good with both home and away games so I'm really not thinking if playing from home is really an advantage for them against Copenhagen. I'm also hoping ten hag will not continue with his trial and error tactics of rotation in this match as it a very crucial to determine if they will qualify or crash out of the champions league.

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November 02, 2023, 03:28:49 PM
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Manchester United is a good team but they are not in good form right now. If you search for Manchester United in the English Premier League, you will find Manchester United fail in the English Premier League, if you search for Manchester United in the Champions League, you will find Manchester United fail in the Champions League. It is natural to lower expectations of a team that fails in every area. Galatasaray Manchester United is a strong enough team but I can't give any guarantee for Manchester United that Manchester United will do well against Galatasaray. Galatasaray is one of the best teams in the Turkish league, so you can be sure that Manchester United's match against them will not be easy at all.
since the bad situation that Man United experienced, most fans and some people have found it more difficult to believe that Man United will be able to compete with Galatasaray, even though they dont look very strong, Galatasaray is able to put very strong pressure on Man United and there may be a little confusion here who has the right to qualify, but I would not expect Man United to qualify, but I just want to see MU maximize its performance to be able to compete competitively in UCL matches.

moreover, currently, for me, MU has started to improve little in the EPL, its just that their consistency still a little weak and we should still give Ten Hag the opportunity to give a better effort than this.

MU must win against Galatasaray to help Ten Hag's chair shake less and win the first points in the Champions League. Galatasaray is a very classy opponent. Galatasaray is in high form, with an unbeaten streak in all matches. Statistics also show that MU did not play too prominently in the clash with Galatasaray. MU with home field advantage, will definitely not be able to play defense. If both teams score, the possibility of the match at Old Trafford exceeding the 2-goal mark is very high. I hope victory will be on MU's side.



But this is what I am not so sure about when you say that Manchester United should win to save Ten Hag, but what if the team doesn't want to save Ten Hag. I think that most of the players would really not care or complain when Ten Hag is not there anymore tomorrow. But for them as a team it is still important to win that game against Galatasaray because every soccer player wants to play the Champions League in a season for as long as it is possible. But in my opinion Manchester United will drop out in the group stage and also not qualify for it next year as they will miss that chance in the Premier League.

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November 02, 2023, 03:37:45 PM
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Manchester united and Galatasaray will compete for the second spot in group A table. Bayern Munich have accumulated the desirable number of points and they will easily pass qualify for the next phase. Where we have problem is Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen, which of these teams will make it to the second spot. It's not going to be easy game that will be play, because these three mention clubs are very competitive towards each other. But I strongly believe United will follow the footsteps of Bayern Munich and qualify, they have good chances.
Manchester united will be facing Copenhagen who they happen to win in their first meeting at old Trafford, I'm hoping Manchester wins against Copenhagen even if it's with just a goal difference as this game is very crucial to them qualifying for the next round of the UCL.

Manchester united should see this as an opportunity to get extra three points and get six points so they will be ahead of Galatasaray by two points, and Galatasaray will be facing Bayern Munich from which I doubt they could get full three points, they could manage to steal a point from them of which I'd they do and Manchester wins, they will be behind by a point, then if they meet Manchester again Manchester draws against them, Manchester stand a chance to qualify than Galatasaray may do if after these two game they gat all win or a win and a draw but them I'm scared Manchester can make it, and if they eventually qualify it's also possible they could crash out at then knock out stage.
We can definitely see Bayern Munich's chances of winning first place in the group, because they won three times easily.

Indeed, the interesting problem discussed is that Galatasaray and Manchester United are fighting for second place. For Manchester United itself, I think it will have a bigger chance if compared with Copenhagen to get full points in their match, and the match between Galatasaray and Bayern Munich is logical. Galatasaray will find it difficult to win, but what if the scenario is changed that Bayern Munich will deliberately give Galatasaray victory? Isn't that something that might happen, and it will certainly be very difficult for Manchester United to catch up from the race for second place in their last match if the scenario is like this.

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November 02, 2023, 03:40:40 PM
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I wouldn't say United are playing inconsistently. For example, now they are losing the second match in a row with a score of 0-3. Quite consistent  Grin The problem is that, after all, Copenhagen and Galatasaray are either equal to United or weaker, so in these pairs there can really be any result. As for the final game in the group stage, I don’t think that Bayern will play weaker than usual - they are disciplined and they have a tradition of winning all the games in the group stage, regardless of the significance of the tournament.

The chance for united to pass the group stage of UCL is still there. I meant im not being too pessimistic about manchester united. We have seen the latest result against newcastle if MU was losing in this game but im sure that the different result when it comes to the UCL.
MU was luckily having bayern as the only strongest team in the group while galatasaray and copenhagen must be rated in the same level as manchester united. It means if united has chance to pass the group stage.

As long as manchester united can win the two matches against copenhagen and galatasaray and i think MU can do that. The main problem if the matches against galatasaray and bayern will become a very hard game for MU

Yes, there are chances, but it’s quite funny (how low United have fallen) that bookmakers see this event as a complete random event:

To Qualify From Group A - Manchester United

Yes 1.80

No 1.90

By the way, I would rather bet on No, since there is a possibility that the players are trying to get rid of Ten Hag and deliberately play poorly/lose. This theory cannot be confirmed or refuted, but it happens quite often in football.

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November 02, 2023, 05:03:59 PM
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Manchester United is a good team but they are not in good form right now. If you search for Manchester United in the English Premier League, you will find Manchester United fail in the English Premier League, if you search for Manchester United in the Champions League, you will find Manchester United fail in the Champions League. It is natural to lower expectations of a team that fails in every area. Galatasaray Manchester United is a strong enough team but I can't give any guarantee for Manchester United that Manchester United will do well against Galatasaray. Galatasaray is one of the best teams in the Turkish league, so you can be sure that Manchester United's match against them will not be easy at all.
since the bad situation that Man United experienced, most fans and some people have found it more difficult to believe that Man United will be able to compete with Galatasaray, even though they dont look very strong, Galatasaray is able to put very strong pressure on Man United and there may be a little confusion here who has the right to qualify, but I would not expect Man United to qualify, but I just want to see MU maximize its performance to be able to compete competitively in UCL matches.

moreover, currently, for me, MU has started to improve little in the EPL, its just that their consistency still a little weak and we should still give Ten Hag the opportunity to give a better effort than this.

MU must win against Galatasaray to help Ten Hag's chair shake less and win the first points in the Champions League. Galatasaray is a very classy opponent. Galatasaray is in high form, with an unbeaten streak in all matches. Statistics also show that MU did not play too prominently in the clash with Galatasaray. MU with home field advantage, will definitely not be able to play defense. If both teams score, the possibility of the match at Old Trafford exceeding the 2-goal mark is very high. I hope victory will be on MU's side.


In terms of team and club, Manchester United is a much stronger team than Galatasaray. Although Manchester United is a much stronger team than Galatasaray, I don't have much confidence in Manchester United at the moment as they have dropped points in many easy matches. Manchester United have been beaten by many easy opponents in the English Premier League. Ever since Manchester United lost to easy opponents, confidence and trust in this team has gone down a lot. Galatasaray is a tough opponent for any team, because the opponent is never easy. Those who take it easy on their opponents will surely do badly in that match. While Manchester United are favorites against Galatasaray, they must plan hard against their opponents and never take the opposition lightly so they can do well in this match.

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November 02, 2023, 05:10:39 PM
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I have a slightly different opinion from yours. I believe that PSG and Newcastle will be the next two teams to advance. The upcoming head-to-head match between them and Dortmund can be considered the deciding game for the second spot. It would add more drama if PSG loses to Milan, and Newcastle and Dortmund draw. In such a scenario, the group's excitement will persist until the final matches.
I have always said that Manchester United have good players but they have failed to perform well with good players. They are certainly a popular club but they are not a well performing club at the moment. I must say they are performing poorly this season as per the way they performed last season. They are able to play in the Champions League this season because of their relatively good performance last season, but the way they are performing in the English Premier League this season makes it doubtful whether they will be able to qualify for the Europa League. Since we believe they have good quality players in their club then why Manchester United are not performing well even with good quality players in their club. Where is their problem?
I see the chemistry in their game is not well established, something is off and I'm sure it's because of their chemistry. Erik Ten Hag has not been able to really stabilize this team so far and the doubts about him are now more pronounced. The players he has are of good quality, but that is not enough, because in team play they also need chemistry in order to implement the strategy properly.
Apart from that, some players also performed below their best. Their new goalkeeper in fact still hasn't found his best game like before joining Manchester United.

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November 02, 2023, 05:57:58 PM
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I have a slightly different opinion from yours. I believe that PSG and Newcastle will be the next two teams to advance. The upcoming head-to-head match between them and Dortmund can be considered the deciding game for the second spot. It would add more drama if PSG loses to Milan, and Newcastle and Dortmund draw. In such a scenario, the group's excitement will persist until the final matches.
I have always said that Manchester United have good players but they have failed to perform well with good players. They are certainly a popular club but they are not a well performing club at the moment. I must say they are performing poorly this season as per the way they performed last season. They are able to play in the Champions League this season because of their relatively good performance last season, but the way they are performing in the English Premier League this season makes it doubtful whether they will be able to qualify for the Europa League. Since we believe they have good quality players in their club then why Manchester United are not performing well even with good quality players in their club. Where is their problem?
I see the chemistry in their game is not well established, something is off and I'm sure it's because of their chemistry. Erik Ten Hag has not been able to really stabilize this team so far and the doubts about him are now more pronounced. The players he has are of good quality, but that is not enough, because in team play they also need chemistry in order to implement the strategy properly.
Apart from that, some players also performed below their best. Their new goalkeeper in fact still hasn't found his best game like before joining Manchester United.

Manchester United's performance in the Champions League has been poor so far. They lost against Galatasaray. Despite winning against Copenhagen, their performance was not very good. Manchester United were very lucky to get a narrow 1-0 win in this match. Manchester United have no experienced players in attack. Because of this, their offensive performance is erratic. At the same time, the performance of Manchester United's defenders is also quite weak. United's poor match tactics have led to poor performances from their defenders. We have to admit that Ten Hag's match strategy is not good. And if they can perform like this, Manchester United will be defeated in the next match against Copenhagen.

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November 02, 2023, 06:25:09 PM
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Yes I am with you here. I saw the game Galatasaray-Bayern Munich and if they repeat that game exactly like that a dozen of times, Galatasaray wins it 80% of the time I think. They had far superior chances and dominated the game really for 70 minutes, it was crazy to watch. But they defeated themselves because if you don't turn those opportunities into goals, it is almost inevitable to lose the game against Bayern Munich eventually. They could have had a lead of maybe 2-0 or on a lucky day 3-0. I think if they scored the first goal, Bayern Munich might have collapsed in that game.

Group A stats, Bayern Munich ranked first, Galatasaray sitting second, while Manchester United 4th and Copenhagen sits bottom with just a point. Galatasaray losing 3-1 at the Türk Telekom Stadı was pure humiliation, given their best performance but having unexpected results was not the plan. The Bavarians came prepared and deserved good points after netting three goals against the home team. Galatasaray failed to convert most of their chances to goals, they maintain constant pressure but netting goals against their visitors, was denied.

For me, there is no form of pure humiliation for the match because after all, basically Galatasaray also does not have the quality above Bayern Munich. Therefore, even though Galatasaray lost but at least Galatasaray also managed to score a goal in the match, thus showing that Galatasaray is still able to play with a good match even though Galatasaray does not have above average quality. Unless, if in the second leg later Galatsaray managed to beat Bayern Munich, then it can be said as pure humiliation, because the top team lost at home.

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November 02, 2023, 06:33:04 PM
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I have a slightly different opinion from yours. I believe that PSG and Newcastle will be the next two teams to advance. The upcoming head-to-head match between them and Dortmund can be considered the deciding game for the second spot. It would add more drama if PSG loses to Milan, and Newcastle and Dortmund draw. In such a scenario, the group's excitement will persist until the final matches.
I have always said that Manchester United have good players but they have failed to perform well with good players. They are certainly a popular club but they are not a well performing club at the moment. I must say they are performing poorly this season as per the way they performed last season. They are able to play in the Champions League this season because of their relatively good performance last season, but the way they are performing in the English Premier League this season makes it doubtful whether they will be able to qualify for the Europa League. Since we believe they have good quality players in their club then why Manchester United are not performing well even with good quality players in their club. Where is their problem?

That's true and I admit Ten Hag has good players and is quite qualified in his various lines, if we look at the statistics last season they were much better in the Premier League, but now there is absolutely nothing impressive from them, many are asking why this can happen which has even been a lot of high expectations especially from Man United fans that this season they can be much better either in the Premier League or in the UCL, but in fact these expectations have been broken by the facts that are now happening. In my opinion one of the biggest problems is in terms of Chemistry, I will not forget these words, because it is clear that they have lost significant consistency in the competition, even though for example Ten Hag has a very good strategy but still it will not mean if all players are not connected in one strategy to achieve goals.

Man United is very bad because of the problems they are experiencing, with the condition of their performance like this, there will definitely be a lot of doubts, especially from the fans, I'm sure the fans will not have high hopes for the next few Man United matches, especially in the Premier League.

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November 02, 2023, 06:37:48 PM
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The matches against Copenhagen and Galatasaray must be won, and if possible they must hold Bayern Munchen to a draw, so that Man United can ensure that they qualify from the group phase and advance to the round of 16. On the other hand, United must show a different performance in the Champoins League, even though now we know they were humiliated again by Newcastle at home, with the same score as Man City who beat them previously 3-0.

I think no need for this analysis because even if Manchester united qualifies for the round of 16 it doesn't really gonna change anything if they still continue with this low performance. They should just reshuffle their play pattern and work together as a team in other to achieve positive results. Until they improve their gameplay it would be difficult to confidently stake on Manchester united to win in any match.











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November 02, 2023, 06:58:22 PM
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Manchester united and Galatasaray will compete for the second spot in group A table. Bayern Munich have accumulated the desirable number of points and they will easily pass qualify for the next phase. Where we have problem is Manchester United, Galatasaray and Copenhagen, which of these teams will make it to the second spot. It's not going to be easy game that will be play, because these three mention clubs are very competitive towards each other. But I strongly believe United will follow the footsteps of Bayern Munich and qualify, they have good chances.
Manchester united will be facing Copenhagen who they happen to win in their first meeting at old Trafford, I'm hoping Manchester wins against Copenhagen even if it's with just a goal difference as this game is very crucial to them qualifying for the next round of the UCL.

Manchester united should see this as an opportunity to get extra three points and get six points so they will be ahead of Galatasaray by two points, and Galatasaray will be facing Bayern Munich from which I doubt they could get full three points, they could manage to steal a point from them of which I'd they do and Manchester wins, they will be behind by a point, then if they meet Manchester again Manchester draws against them, Manchester stand a chance to qualify than Galatasaray may do if after these two game they gat all win or a win and a draw but them I'm scared Manchester can make it, and if they eventually qualify it's also possible they could crash out at then knock out stage.
We can definitely see Bayern Munich's chances of winning first place in the group, because they won three times easily.

Indeed, the interesting problem discussed is that Galatasaray and Manchester United are fighting for second place. For Manchester United itself, I think it will have a bigger chance if compared with Copenhagen to get full points in their match, and the match between Galatasaray and Bayern Munich is logical. Galatasaray will find it difficult to win, but what if the scenario is changed that Bayern Munich will deliberately give Galatasaray victory? Isn't that something that might happen, and it will certainly be very difficult for Manchester United to catch up from the race for second place in their last match if the scenario is like this.

Manchester United haven't secured third position and you call them amongst clubs that will qualify for the top two, that alone burst my inner bubbles.
I'm not being pessimistic about them qualifying, but judging them so far withnow they have been playing all round the various Competitions that are competitive are not so encouraging.
Bayern Munich are already cleared even without the last three games and fixtures played. Gala are doing fine in them league, they are potentials for the second place, denial can only happen of Gala fail to harness the chances they have.

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