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November 09, 2023, 07:42:00 AM
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Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.
Manchester United is a team that is difficult to predict this season, its consistency need to be questioned Manchester United has performed poorly since the start of the season, both in the Premier League and Champions League. It seems that currently Ten Hag will experience a lot of pressure from everyone regarding the club performance, and it seems that the opportunity Manchester United to qualify for the last 16 of the Champions League will be difficult for them to achieve. The only competitor that Manchester United can beat in Group A is Copenhagen, but unfortunately on their second chance when they face Copenhagen again, Manchester United lost the opportunity to get points, and it looks like this season Manchester United lost the opportunity to compete in the Champions League and the European League because Man Utd only had 2 matches left, namely facing Galatasaray and Bayern Munich, both clubs were quite difficult for Manchester United to beat with the currently condition of Man Utd player.

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November 09, 2023, 07:43:58 AM
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Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.

Manchester united were actually playing fine until after the red card and everything changed to opposite direction. In fact, I can say that that game was the best display from them in the recent days but unfortunately the result was not in their favor. Red card is actually not supposed to have much influence since they were playing a weaker team. We all saw how Tottenham played against Chelsea despite they were two men down.

ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.

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November 09, 2023, 07:44:38 AM
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Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.
Manchester would probably have sacked Ten Hag a long time ago, but there is no money for a new coach, the club has huge debts.

Copenhagen are not such a weak team, after all, they play in the Champions League and soccer is not the same as before, where you could successfully defend with ten men. Now a red card, especially at the beginning of the match is almost a sentence.
In addition, Manchester had their main striker suspended and the chance for successful attacks immediately fell and the role of striker tried to play McGuire.

Manchester have a chance to get out of the group, but they are very small, and with such a game will be good if they take at least 3rd place.

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November 09, 2023, 07:54:38 AM
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Yes, maybe because Manchester United was one of the big clubs in the past and if you look at this bad performance it seems like it's very ridiculous where when a big club experiences bad things it will immediately recover, but in contrast to Manchester United, where there has been no change since the start of the season, it's even more ridiculous. Again, this club could lose to a club that is not that strong.
With this bad problem it is very natural that everyone will blame the coach who has full responsibility for the future of his club but at least give Erik Ten Hag a chance until the end of the season and if nothing changes maybe it would be better to fire him.
Manchester United performance actually started to improve last season when Ten Hag first arrived, but it is very surprising that in Ten Hag's second season in charge of the Manchester United team, his performance decreased, regardless of the reason why many players were injured, but I think Te Hag must be responsible for the bad performance. Manchester United at the moment, and if you look at the team's progress which is not improving, it is indeed appropriate for Manchester United to fire Ten Hag.
Losing again in the group phase match means that Manchester United's chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are very small.
However, I am not surprised by this defeat, the team is in a slump now so the bad results they have achieved since the start of this season is something we have seen normally.

Believe me, he needs to be sacked! Union Berlin are not a very strong team compared to Napoli and in the game, the stats proved that but I was shocked when I checked the scoreline and saw 1-1. Like, they couldn't even push for more goals, as of they were content with it. I wonder what kind of tactics Rui Garcia employed for them to play such a disappointing game last night. Osimhen is out injured but that doesn't mean the others can't coordinate the game. Even if this draw gave them one point and pushed them up to 2nd place behind Real Madrid, it's still no excuse for the lame performance and honestly, it fell below expectations.
 Union just have one point and are at the bottom of their group C but I doubt they seem to mind, if anything, they felt content drawing the game.
Playing at home against a team whose quality is far below Napoli but not managing to win the match is very surprising.
Osimhen's absence should not be an excuse because their opponents are Union Berlin, a team whose quality is very poor this season.
Since the beginning of Rudi Garcia's arrival in handling the Napoli team, it has been quite doubtful, especially since he continues to be compared with Spalletti, who was quite successful with Napoli last season. Indeed, if you look at the results received and Napoli's inconsistent performance at this time, it is appropriate for the Napoli team to immediately looking for a replacement for Rudi Garcia.

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November 09, 2023, 08:25:27 AM
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ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.
I'm not a fan of Manchester United, let alone ETH, but this isn't just about ETH's failure to provide Manchester United with tactics and strategies to perform better, personally I just say that it's not just ETH's fault, bad tactics or strategy but because of the players. those who haven't played in the UCL so they are still not mature enough to perform better. I think Manchester United doesn't need to expect more because of its failure in the UCL.

They can at least focus now on the EPL to fix everything and restore their former glory days where this club has always been a club that was looked up to, to be honest, Manchester United has always been a club that has been ridiculed on social media, so maybe their fans are also not happy to see their favorite team always being ridiculed and continuing to not play well, there is a lot that needs to be improved and it will take time to make Manchester United become a favorite club again and ETH is the person most responsible for that.

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November 09, 2023, 08:50:05 AM
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I'm not a fan of Manchester United, let alone ETH, but this isn't just about ETH's failure to provide Manchester United with tactics and strategies to perform better, personally I just say that it's not just ETH's fault, bad tactics or strategy but because of the players. those who haven't played in the UCL so they are still not mature enough to perform better. I think Manchester United doesn't need to expect more because of its failure in the UCL.

They can at least focus now on the EPL to fix everything and restore their former glory days where this club has always been a club that was looked up to, to be honest, Manchester United has always been a club that has been ridiculed on social media, so maybe their fans are also not happy to see their favorite team always being ridiculed and continuing to not play well, there is a lot that needs to be improved and it will take time to make Manchester United become a favorite club again and ETH is the person most responsible for that.
But in fact Manchester United's performance in the Premier League is also in a very bad state, this is not about the mentality of the Manchester United players being bad, it is indeed the Manchester United team's play that is very bad and that can be seen in all competitions.
There is no one else to blame except Erik Ten Hag, and all the Manchester United players in this season's squad are the players he wants.
The Manchester United team has been built according to Erik Teen Hag's wishes, but he still failed to improve the team's performance.

I really doubt that Manchester United will be able to recover in the near future, especially now that so many of their main players are injured, plus continuing to reap bad results has made the confidence of the players in the team decrease further.

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November 09, 2023, 08:54:30 AM
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Another multibet win in last night's match and of the 6 bets I placed, only the Napoli vs Union Berlin match had a half win. Actually, I made this multibet bet when Union Berlin equalized and I thought it was likely that this would be a draw or even be the first win for Union Berlin. Without Victor Osimhen, it was clear that Napoli were not very sharp in attack and even though they had other opportunities, it didn't seem like they could add another advantage to them. On the other hand, Union Berlin was still able to keep up with Napoli's game even though they lost badly in ball possession.

Apart from that, for Inter with the only goal from the penalty spot scored by Lautaro Martinez and also Bayern Munich with a brace scored by Harry Kane, I am also happy that they got a late win in this match and at the same time made both of them qualify for the next round.

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November 09, 2023, 08:58:37 AM
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ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.
Blaming Erik Ten Hag for United's loss is insensitive because these Manchester players are discourteous in my opinion. Manchester United's defeat to Copenhagen was an unforeseen occurrence because I determine no reason why Marcus Rashford would commit a heinous foul by matching his opponent with his boot, not to mention pressing him with his pin. Some viewers expressed their opinions, describing it as an involuntary action, but the referee has the final say, and he issued Rashford a red card for a deliberate action. Prior to it, United was leading 2 nil but couldn't defend their territory, conceding two goals in the first half. In the second half, they couldn't withstand the pressure and lost threw points.

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Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.

Since Manchester United hasn't advanced past the group stage of the Champions League in the last two seasons, Hojlund is a capable striker, but I don't think the team is ready for him. When he scored the game's first goal in three minutes and its second goal in twenty-eight, I kept in mind that Manchester United had already won, but Rashford's red card ended up ruining the entire match. I'm not sure why Ten Hag's started him in the match. I don't like the way he performed this season. Because of their recent bad play, people will hardly think that Manchester United would win a match against any team. However, I believe if Casemiro and Martinez were available, I think they could be able to defend the lead when they win.

I don't think Harry Maguire will change. I understand that every player makes mistakes, but his own is too much. One player was sent off and still went on to caused a penalty. They must sack Ten Hag's to improve Manchester United's performance. Since Ten Hag's arrival, the team has hardly won a game. However, if it weren't for the red card, the team performed well yesterday. I don't think Rashford wants Manchester to perform well this season, so I can only blame Ten Hag's and Rashford responsible for this defeat.

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November 09, 2023, 09:17:25 AM
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ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.
Blaming Erik Ten Hag for United's loss is insensitive because these Manchester players are discourteous in my opinion. Manchester United's defeat to Copenhagen was an unforeseen occurrence because I determine no reason why Marcus Rashford would commit a heinous foul by matching his opponent with his boot, not to mention pressing him with his pin. Some viewers expressed their opinions, describing it as an involuntary action, but the referee has the final say, and he issued Rashford a red card for a deliberate action. Prior to it, United was leading 2 nil but couldn't defend their territory, conceding two goals in the first half. In the second half, they couldn't withstand the pressure and lost threw points.
That red card for Marcus Rashford was well deserved, even though he doesn't seem to feel any accountability. Despite being down to 10 men, Manchester United should still be dominating against Copenhagen in this game. But, we have witnessed their defeat. However, patience is running out, and the series of bad luck continues. Fans can't accept a perpetual downfall of Manchester United. This team needs a football manager who can read the game properly, not a coach who doesn't know the right player to substitute.

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November 09, 2023, 09:18:05 AM
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Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.
Manchester would probably have sacked Ten Hag a long time ago, but there is no money for a new coach, the club has huge debts.

Copenhagen are not such a weak team, after all, they play in the Champions League and soccer is not the same as before, where you could successfully defend with ten men. Now a red card, especially at the beginning of the match is almost a sentence.
In addition, Manchester had their main striker suspended and the chance for successful attacks immediately fell and the role of striker tried to play McGuire.

Manchester have a chance to get out of the group, but they are very small, and with such a game will be good if they take at least 3rd place.

That's a shame for a team like Manchester United to lose a game against Copenhagen in the Champions League. Copenhagen is not a strong team and they don't have any hope for this tournament but Manchester United had a poor performance in this game which is enough for any team to use the chance and win the game. In fact, Manchester United was a top team in this tournament and now they are losing games against weak teams.


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November 09, 2023, 09:19:22 AM
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Inter Real and Bayern are already qualified for the final phase of the Champions.

Whatever they will do in the next 2 games they will be already in, is impressive.
Achieving this with two matches to play is actually impressive not all teams can achieve this in the champions league and if you observe this teams closely they are all in good form lately even in their domestic leagues. Bayern Munich have been in good form and the only match they lost after a long time was when they were knocked out in the German cup by a third division club. They have been excellent lately and I think the transfer of Harry Kane has helped them well though despite this excellent run of form they still sit second on the table 2 points behind Bayern Leverkursen but i believe they would soon take their spot.

Real Madrid and Inter are also giving excellent performances recently so it is only right for them to qualify for the knockout with 2 more games to play. It is not a surprise seeing their performance in recent games and being so consistent with wins so they deserved it and if they continue this way they can even go farther in the competition.

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November 09, 2023, 09:26:34 AM
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Inter Real and Bayern are already qualified for the final phase of the Champions.

Whatever they will do in the next 2 games they will be already in, is impressive.
Achieving this with two matches to play is actually impressive not all teams can achieve this in the champions league and if you observe this teams closely they are all in good form lately even in their domestic leagues. Bayern Munich have been in good form and the only match they lost after a long time was when they were knocked out in the German cup by a third division club. They have been excellent lately and I think the transfer of Harry Kane has helped them well though despite this excellent run of form they still sit second on the table 2 points behind Bayern Leverkursen but i believe they would soon take their spot.

Real Madrid and Inter are also giving excellent performances recently so it is only right for them to qualify for the knockout with 2 more games to play. It is not a surprise seeing their performance in recent games and being so consistent with wins so they deserved it and if they continue this way they can even go farther in the competition.

Real Madrid's performance against Braga was really good. I did not think that Madrid will play so well in this match. I don't expect a good performance from Madrid in this match as Bellingham was not the most important player in their squad. He suffered minor injuries. Still, it's admirable that Madrid's players have performed as well as Bellingham. From Vini and Rodrygo we have not had good performances in the past matches. However, in this match, these two players performed well and brought Madrid to a 3-0 victory.

After drawing the first match against Real Sociedad, Inter Milan won all three matches in a row. Milan continued their dominance in Serie A as well as the Champions League. Inter Milan will probably qualify for the knockout rounds from the top spot in Group D.

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Manchester united were actually playing fine until after the red card and everything changed to opposite direction. In fact, I can say that that game was the best display from them in the recent days but unfortunately the result was not in their favor. Red card is actually not supposed to have much influence since they were playing a weaker team. We all saw how Tottenham played against Chelsea despite they were two men down.

ETH is to be blame in most of Manchester united defeat due to his lack of tactics because I don’t know why Rashford started in the first place. Honestly, this guy and Varane are against this manager and we can all see it but ETH keeps putting him because of English media. Rashford is a mess killing manchester united honestly and he was not even sad and won’t react positively next game for selling this one away.
I remember when all the blame was all about Ronaldo, even when he saved Manchester United's ass so many times on European nights. When he talked about how things need to be changed at United. Many looked at him as villian. I am glad people are now waking up and realizing that there is a huge problem at United starting with the management

Maybe Manchester United shouldn't have sucked their homeboy Ole in the first place. Possibly they would be much better than they are right now.

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November 09, 2023, 09:56:28 AM
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Have been wondering what happened to Manchester United especially ETH, does he even have any tactics in winning a game even with one man down?
Manchester United have been struggling this season quite alright but the game last night was the game UTD should have gotten at least a point, let's forget the red card if it was deserving or not but come on, Manchester United was looking for a goal to make the game end in their favor, either end in a draw or something might happen to get a win, and ETH went on to substitute Hojlund who's looking for a way to get a goal for the team and ETH brought in Mount, to do what? What has Mount contributed to the United team since joining the side from Chelsea?
It is official that ETH can't control the game under pressure, the Tottenham Hotspur coach Ange Postecoglou is a good example of a coach who can handle pressure.
What if Man UTD had gotten 2 red cards that means the United team would have conceded more than 4 goals. ETH should stop complaining about the red card and the ref officiating.

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November 09, 2023, 10:00:12 AM
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Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.

To be honest, I think firing Teg Haag will be the best course of action for Manchester United. This season, I think the team's performance is even worse than Chelsea's. How can a team that leads 3-2 against Copenhagen eventually lose 4-3 to Manchester United to Copenhagen? The way Manchester United plays is just too poor; this is not just the players' responsibility; Teg haag is to blame; he has no idea who the best players are to start games with. If they continue to play that player without firing him, the team's performance will be even worse than it was this season.

Another issue with Manchester United is Rashford. As a coach, I would never start a game with Rashford; instead, I would always make sure to bench him so that he would know how to play a mature game when he got on the field. I always blame Chelsea for not knowing how to play defence, but Manchester United is worse. When they realise that they are winning, the defensive players for Manchester United, especially Maguire, don't know how to play properly. I believe that he and Teg Haag are plotting something foolish for the team. Maguire needs a coach who can handle him well.

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But in fact Manchester United's performance in the Premier League is also in a very bad state, this is not about the mentality of the Manchester United players being bad, it is indeed the Manchester United team's play that is very bad and that can be seen in all competitions.
There is no one else to blame except Erik Ten Hag, and all the Manchester United players in this season's squad are the players he wants.
The Manchester United team has been built according to Erik Teen Hag's wishes, but he still failed to improve the team's performance.
It seems like Manchester United needs new things from a coach this season, because if Erik Ten Hag can't provide more different input or direction for his players now, bad results like that will continue to happen to Manchester United this season. Even though Manchester United was a team with a fairly good class before being coached by Erik Ten Hag, the team management must see this as a more accurate comparison so that they can carry out more different executions in rebuilding the Manchester United team's performance.
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It seems like Manchester United needs new things from a coach this season, because if Erik Ten Hag can't provide more different input or direction for his players now, bad results like that will continue to happen to Manchester United this season.
I also think that after yesterday's defeat at Copenhagen (who played surprisingly well again) the discussion about ETH will flare up again. His statements after the game were also very unfortunate in my opinion and make him look more like a whiny child than a coach of one of the (at least formerly Wink ) best clubs in Europe.

It will now be very difficult for ManU to even reach 3rd place in the group. ETH will certainly not survive being eliminated from all international competitions after the group stage as a coach.

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November 09, 2023, 10:05:18 AM
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Man United at best are getting to Europa League and worst is they are out being bottom of the table. I think they have a decent chance to beat Galatasaray in Turkey but their last match is against Bayern. In United's best case, they beat Galatasaray and hope Galatasaray lose their final game in Denmark.
This is a very difficult thing for Manchester United, because apart from having to win against Galatasaray at the Rams Global Stadyumu, Manchester United also still has to hope that Galatasaray will lose again in the last match. It is clear that it is not an easy condition for Manchester United at the moment, which even looks difficult to reach the Europa League even though they still have a chance to do so. However, currently Galatasaray and Copenhagen also look better in the Champions League group.

with the level of squad's mentality right now, Manchester united have slim hope to qualify for round of 16. the loss in Denmark hits their mentality so hard. it seems that Ten Hag still can't find a solution to fix the situation they need on the pitch and off the pitch. this result invites pressure even more for the chance to stay in champions league that makes the next game could be the last meaningful game.

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November 09, 2023, 10:06:28 AM
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What an amazing game it was between Copenhagen and Manchester United! Rashford is in huge trouble this season. His performance has dropped so much and he even got a red card tonight which led to his team to get a loss. Copenhagen can be a really dangerous team when there is an opportunity. We saw that while they were hosting Bayern Munich as well.

Copenhagen got an unforgettable win for themselves but this made things even more fired up in the group. If Galatasaray got at least one point then it wouldn't have been this complicated. However I still believe they are strong enough to beat the Red Devils and Copenhagen both in the remaining games. The thing they need is better finishing skills.

Did Rashford make the fault intentionally, lets say to make an injury for the Copenhagen's player? If he did it intentionally, I have to say that he did stupid thing as he did not need to do it. But if he did not do it intentionally, it was so unlucky accident. Red devils started the match well, although it was not their best but at least they could lead by 2 goals first. The red card was a nightmare for the whole team as well as for the fans. Even if there was no red card, I will say that Copenhagen played well too because they could create some chances before the red card. The result make the red devils in the bottom of the standing with 3 point, and the competition to be the 2nd team to qualify become harder for red devils but it becomes more interesting.

Maybe Rashford did it unintentionally. However it is really the sad truth about him that he is quite bad this season. There is an enormous gap between Rashford in the previous season and now. I don't know maybe this is related to some serious level of concentration loss compared to previously. Because he was really incredible back then.

Copenhagen are really trying in this group. I admire their high effort. I don't know how much successful they can be after the last two games left though. I feel like they would lose to Bayern Munich in Germany even though Bayern Munich guaranteed their lead. If Galatasaray play better than they did against them before then Copenhagen would be in trouble in that one as well.

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