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November 10, 2023, 04:33:38 AM
Last edit: November 13, 2023, 04:50:58 PM by len01
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I'm sure Erik Ten Hag, who saw Galatasaray play very well in both Bayern matches in the UCL, will prepare very well for that match. If they do not win that match, their chances of getting out of the group will be very low. If Galatasaray wins, one point from the Copenhagen match will be enough. Of course, I think Copenhagen will lose points to Bayern and be defeated. That's why Manchester United must beat Galatasaray.

Two match are difficult, but if they want to have a chance of qualifying they have to win the remaining 2 match. Currently only Munich has confirmed qualification, the other 3 clubs in the group still have many chances to qualify.
But one problem is that Man United have to go to Galatasaray and Munich in the last two games. It seems that this mission is very difficult. It should have been against Copenhagen at that time that they could have won or brought home a point. Ten Hag does not seem to immediately change the game to go deeper and rely on quick counter-attacks.
visiting Galatasaray and Munich makes Manchester United's chances almost non-existent, even though in terms of points it is currently possible for them, but I see realistically that it is almost impossible for Manchester United to achieve victory when visiting Galatasaray and Munich, especially with their performance which is as bad as it is now.
Maybe the only thing Manchester United can pursue is to finish in 3rd place and go to the Europa League.
in UCL, Man United seems to have no hope anymore, even in the european league it seems like it will be difficult to win the title there, while Sevilla, if they can get 3rd place in the group standings, will also go to the european league and we all know that Sevilla is one of the title holders survive european league which will make it difficult for Man United to win the title in the european league.

and on the one hand, it very difficult to get additional points when playing away against Galatasaray, even though this team has a performance that is slightly superior to MU and to win the title in the EPL, Man United will not be able to compete with other big teams.
here I dont really doubt MU, its just that its a bit difficult to see MU recover from this bad situation before it can be truly consistent.

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November 10, 2023, 04:40:27 AM
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Manchester United is becoming a joke team this season in everywhere they are playing,in all competitions,both in the Champions League and the Premier League.Honestly I still cannot understand how a red card can impact the game that much for them to concede 4 goals,concede 4 goals from a team who is weaker and who plays in a much weaker competition than the Premier League.

If they don't sack Ten Haag which I think is the root cause of all the bad things happening to Manchester United then they should be prepared for much worse than what they have already suffered.
I don't think Manchester United are even considering doing that at the moment,that same Team Hag took them to the champions league last season,and one thing I know about Manchester united is that,there are times when they will start winning games,and thesame people saying Ten Hag should go,are thesame people that will say he is a good coach,so I think the board should call him,and give him either from now to January,if he doesn't turn things around,then he should be sacked.
That is a conversation he will have with the board,and he will know that his job is at stake.
I really think there is no unity at the club at the moment,and it is one of the major cause of their poor performances this season.

This discussion has already been talked about ten Hag will not be sacked he is a good coach and needs your support to see him take the club out of the mess they are going through. Not the management of United are putting that Into a meeting to say ten Hag will be sacked.
The means of qualifying now very hard for United, if they can best both Galatasaray and Bayern Munich them they can make it happen.
This ten Hag has been difficult, many people experience the good season last season and would think this season  will ne better Man United will  fight for the league but here they are trying to gather form.

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November 10, 2023, 04:59:46 AM
Last edit: November 10, 2023, 06:40:49 PM by Mayor of ogba
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The defeat suffered by Man United when competing against Copenhagen made their chances in the Champions League even tougher. They still have a chance but it doesn't just depend on their efforts but also depends on Bayern Munich. What is clear is that they must be able to get 2 wins in their remaining 2 matches and hope that Bayern Munich can beat Copenhagen or at least the match ended in a draw. I think it will be a difficult mission for Man United, considering they are currently in a tattered condition.
Man United at best are getting to Europa League and worst is they are out being bottom of the table. I think they have a decent chance to beat Galatasaray in Turkey but their last match is against Bayern. In United's best case, they beat Galatasaray and hope Galatasaray lose their final game in Denmark.
Manchester United have a mountain to climb because their last two matches in the Uefa Champions League are not an easy one for them to play. For me, I do not see Manchester United going to Turkey to beat Galatasaray at home because Manchester United could not beat them at Old Trafford, and Galatasaray will have no fear when playing Manchester United at home because they once beat Man U at home. One thing about the UEFA Champions League is that if you don't beat your opponent in your stadium it will be very hard for you to beat them at their home unless you guys are good like Manchester City and Manchester United is nothing to write home about this season.

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November 10, 2023, 05:38:18 AM
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I'm sure Erik Ten Hag, who saw Galatasaray play very well in both Bayern matches in the UCL, will prepare very well for that match. If they do not win that match, their chances of getting out of the group will be very low. If Galatasaray wins, one point from the Copenhagen match will be enough. Of course, I think Copenhagen will lose points to Bayern and be defeated. That's why Manchester United must beat Galatasaray.

Two match are difficult, but if they want to have a chance of qualifying they have to win the remaining 2 match. Currently only Munich has confirmed qualification, the other 3 clubs in the group still have many chances to qualify.
But one problem is that Man United have to go to Galatasaray and Munich in the last two games. It seems that this mission is very difficult. It should have been against Copenhagen at that time that they could have won or brought home a point. Ten Hag does not seem to immediately change the game to go deeper and rely on quick counter-attacks.
visiting Galatasaray and Munich makes Manchester United's chances almost non-existent, even though in terms of points it is currently possible for them, but I see realistically that it is almost impossible for Manchester United to achieve victory when visiting Galatasaray and Munich, especially with their performance which is as bad as it is now.
Maybe the only thing Manchester United can pursue is to finish in 3rd place and go to the Europa League.
in the UCL, Man United seems to have no hope anymore, even in the european league it seems like it will be difficult to win the title there, while Sevilla, if they can get 3rd place in the group standings, will also go to the european league and we all know that Sevilla is one of the title holders. survive the european league which will make it difficult for Man United to win the title in the european league.

and on the one hand, it is very difficult to get additional points when playing away against Galatasaray, even though this team has a performance that is slightly superior to MU and to win the title in the EPL, Man United will not be able to compete with other big teams.
here I dont really doubt MU, its just that its a bit difficult to see MU recover from this bad situation before it can be truly consistent.
Exactly my point. Also, Manchester United are week, and to all indications, Manchester United are not going any further because it is very difficult for them to score Galatasaray or even think of getting additional points when playing away with them. If they can score Manchester United at home, how can you think they are going to score away? Manchester United have already gone down; they need to recover.

The match there even has tomorrow I don’t think they have hope for Luton Town because from the previous six match’s Luton Town has 4 wins, 0 walks, and 2 losses, while Manchester United has 1 win, 0 walks, and 5 losses, which everyone knows about, and I can say that Manchester United will definitely lose this match unless a miracle happens to Manchester United.

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November 10, 2023, 05:59:50 AM
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Why haven't M.United fired Erik ten Hag yet? Is there no other manager? I don't understand the purpose of the M.United management.

I definitely don't think they can win against Bayern and Galatasaray.

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November 10, 2023, 06:01:06 AM
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Man United has become the weakest team in Group A, and it's a real mess. With matches left against Bayern and Galatasaray, to secure their spot in the next round in UCL alongside Bayern, Man United needs to win against Galatasaray and avoid losing to Bayern. I couldn't help but notice that in yesterday's game, Man United didn't seem to perform any better than Copenhagen. I had a hunch when Rashford got a red card... disaster was looming in the second half.

Being 2-0 up should have made Man United more cautious, as the game was not entirely controlled by Ten Hag's squad. Bruno Fernandes seemed to play fairly well, staying composed even with just 10 players on the field. Maguire's performance was just average, but he was also the reason for the penalty against Man United. I was really happy with both of their performances, even though they weren't MOTM in this match...  their play had a significant impact on several goals that happened.
The way Man United played against Copenhagen was a complete disaster. They have won the right to be the weakest team in Group A. Even though Fernandes played with class and Rashford's red card caused a stir, let's not sugarcoat it: the team's discipline and tactical understanding were terrible. And even though they were ahead 2-0, they let the game slip away like sand. Being careful isn't enough; you also need to be smart and play the long game, which Ten Hag's team definitely didn't do. What about Maguire? His effort was about average, which is an understatement. The fine he caused? At this level, that kind of mistake is impossible. They might as well give up on making it to the UCL if they keep playing like this against Bayern and Galatasaray

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November 10, 2023, 07:48:48 AM
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visiting Galatasaray and Munich makes Manchester United's chances almost non-existent, even though in terms of points it is currently possible for them, but I see realistically that it is almost impossible for Manchester United to achieve victory when visiting Galatasaray and Munich, especially with their performance which is as bad as it is now.
Maybe the only thing Manchester United can pursue is to finish in 3rd place and go to the Europa League.
The chances of qualifying are slim and require a miracle on the pitch. With the condition of Man United players like this, apart from being mentally unstable, last season's performance cannot be seen at this time. Erik Ten Hag lost control and couldn't find a solution to his strategy. Maybe he underestimated the opposing coach too much. That's what Ten Hag often does in the Premier League and talks about being able to beat Pep Guardiola. In the UCL itself facing opponents Bayern Munich and Galatasaray is the biggest obstacle and I am sure the Bayern Munich players will be looking forward to Man United at any time.

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November 10, 2023, 07:53:27 AM
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Manchester United has a mountain to climb because their last two matches in the Uefa Champions League are not an easy one for them to play. For me, I do not see Manchester United going to Turkey to beat Galatasaray at home because Manchester United could not beat them at Old Trafford, and Galatasaray will have no fear when playing Manchester United at home because they once beat Man U at home. One thing about the UEFA Champions League is that if you don't beat your opponent in your stadium it will be very hard for you to beat them at their home unless you guys are good like Manchester City and Manchester United is nothing to write home about this season.
Agree with you that the home match should be a match that gives Manchester United full points but unfortunately, they failed to do so, even though the defeat they experienced was not an easy defeat, they fought to win but failed and that is because they often started late, such as when they lost to Bayern Munich, also failed to maintain their lead because the red card received by Rashford changed the course of the match to Copenhagen's next, as well as the defeat against Galasataray because Galasataray's third goal occurred after Casimero received a red card so that the superior number of players was successfully utilized by Galasataray.
Erik Ten Hag doesn't seem to have the right way to keep his team winning when something bad happens in a match, because in two matches his players got red cards, they couldn't do much even though there were also teams that were still able to win even though they were playing with 10 players, the quality of Manchester United's game is very questionable.

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November 10, 2023, 08:00:03 AM
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Why haven't M.United fired Erik ten Hag yet? Is there no other manager? I don't understand the purpose of the M.United management.

I definitely don't think they can win against Bayern and Galatasaray.
I also don't think Manchester United would be able to beat Bayern and Galatasaray, thus they already have one foot out of the CL, and elimination from the CL would be a disaster for the club. Last season they thought they were making progress and now this season they are taking 10 steps backward; it is a bad feeling for the club and anyone associated with them.

Having said that, i'm pretty sure Erik Ten Hag would be sacked sooner or later, the club are prolly tired of hiring and firing managers, but if things continue to become worse, they'll have no choice but to fire him and hire a new manager, whom i don't think will also succeed.

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November 10, 2023, 08:07:14 AM
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I'm sure Erik Ten Hag, who saw Galatasaray play very well in both Bayern matches in the UCL, will prepare very well for that match. If they do not win that match, their chances of getting out of the group will be very low. If Galatasaray wins, one point from the Copenhagen match will be enough. Of course, I think Copenhagen will lose points to Bayern and be defeated. That's why Manchester United must beat Galatasaray.

Two match are difficult, but if they want to have a chance of qualifying they have to win the remaining 2 match. Currently only Munich has confirmed qualification, the other 3 clubs in the group still have many chances to qualify.
But one problem is that Man United have to go to Galatasaray and Munich in the last two games. It seems that this mission is very difficult. It should have been against Copenhagen at that time that they could have won or brought home a point. Ten Hag does not seem to immediately change the game to go deeper and rely on quick counter-attacks.
There are still 2 matches remaining and the chances of the 3 clubs are still question marks as to who will qualify from the group preliminary round because the three clubs have almost the same points, and I think Manchester United only has 1 hope, namely when they face Galatasaray, this will be a quite difficult match. for Manchester United because it will be playing away, we all know that Manchester United suffered a defeat when they hosted Galatasaray previously so to be honest I can't expect too much from Manchester United in the next match I'm afraid I will experience disappointment like before Smiley

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November 10, 2023, 08:16:10 AM
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That's a shame for a team like Manchester United to lose a game against Copenhagen in the Champions League. Copenhagen is not a strong team and they don't have any hope for this tournament but Manchester United had a poor performance in this game which is enough for any team to use the chance and win the game. In fact, Manchester United was a top team in this tournament and now they are losing games against weak teams.

Manchester United are no longer the same team they were even a year or two ago. Out of their 17 games Manchester United have lost 9, the percentage of defeats is already over 50 and it seems that this is the worst result for 50 years, so the defeat against Copenhagen was statistically expected. 
Before the game with Manchester, Copenhagen won 4 out of 5 games and they played well, yes without Rashford's suspension the victory probably would not have happened, but they could probably draw.

Given that Bayern Munich are already in the playoffs, now 3 teams will play on equal terms to get out of the group. While Galatasaray have the best chances, they need to draw with Manchester United and beat Copenhagen and then Mauro Icardi's team will definitely get out of the group. Manchester need to win the remaining 2 games and then they will have a chance to get out of the group.

Let's be honest, we cannot say that Copenhagen is a better team compared to Manchester United. That is just not true. Manchester United is a far better team when compared to teams like Copenhagen. I do not want to offend anyone, but I think saying that Copenhagen is not a weak team is just a coping mechanism for the Manchester United fans. There was no reason for Manchester United to lose this match. There was also no reason for Manchester United to defend so poorly in this match. I think the authority of Manchester United really needs to sit down and have a talk about the coach.
I think there's no point in talking to Ten Hag. After De Hea and other scandals it should be clear to everyone that his character is not easy and it could be forgiven, but the results of the team are only getting worse. Ten Hag prefers those players who played for him before Manchester and other players are not inspired by that. We should realize that his character will not change and there is no point in talking to him, he has already shown everything he can for a season and a half in the team.
Either the management needs to urgently look for money and change him, or tolerate, hoping for an improvement in the situation.

Copenhagen are the champions of Denmark, and almost permanent, and in recent years their level is only growing.

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November 10, 2023, 08:36:25 AM
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Why haven't M.United fired Erik ten Hag yet? Is there no other manager? I don't understand the purpose of the M.United management.

I definitely don't think they can win against Bayern and Galatasaray.
The current situation is that many expect Ten Hag to be fired after Manchester United's performance has been erratic to date but sacking Ten Hag is not possible now.
Indeed, many fans are demanding at this time but Ten Hag will also not waver, especially now that he has the full support of Manchester United management because they are still confident in Ten Hag's coaching.
On the other hand, firing is also not a good option because in the end there are several possibilities that occur if you bring in a new coach or use an interim coach so firing a coach with compensation and replacing with a new coach is considered to be much more risky.

But indeed I have the view that if mid-season Manchester United is still like this then it is likely that the beliefs of the officials from Manchester United will change.

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November 10, 2023, 08:41:57 AM
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These are the six teams that have been confirmed to qualify for the round of 16 and their journey will definitely be easier in the remaining group stage matches. Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Inter, Leipzig and Manchester City are regular teams in the top 16 and perhaps seeing Real Sociedad's struggle so far in qualifying with this strong team is certainly a good record for them after being absent from this competition for so long. Real Sociedad managed to eliminate Salzburg and Benfica from Group D competition and they succeeded in placing themselves at the top with the same points as Inter. Real Sociedad's performance in the domestic league and champions league is equally good and they deserve this result.

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November 10, 2023, 08:56:55 AM
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These are the six teams that have been confirmed to qualify for the round of 16 and their journey will definitely be easier in the remaining group stage matches. Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Inter, Leipzig and Manchester City are regular teams in the top 16 and perhaps seeing Real Sociedad's struggle so far in qualifying with this strong team is certainly a good record for them after being absent from this competition for so long. Real Sociedad managed to eliminate Salzburg and Benfica from Group D competition and they succeeded in placing themselves at the top with the same points as Inter. Real Sociedad's performance in the domestic league and champions league is equally good and they deserve this result.
As been expected Real Madrid, Manchester City and Bayern Munich can easily qualified for the next round.

But I think Real Madrid, Inter, Real Sociedad, and Lepizig will not going nowhere since Real Madrid totally depend on Bellingham, Inter only win with small margin, Real Sociedad and Leipzig, we all know they're just strong, but not that strong when they match against tough club.
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November 10, 2023, 09:01:31 AM
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These are the six teams that have been confirmed to qualify for the round of 16 and their journey will definitely be easier in the remaining group stage matches. Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Inter, Leipzig and Manchester City are regular teams in the top 16 and perhaps seeing Real Sociedad's struggle so far in qualifying with this strong team is certainly a good record for them after being absent from this competition for so long. Real Sociedad managed to eliminate Salzburg and Benfica from Group D competition and they succeeded in placing themselves at the top with the same points as Inter. Real Sociedad's performance in the domestic league and champions league is equally good and they deserve this result.
These are teams who have qualified,topping their groups,I am kind of surprised at Liepzig because I didn't expect them to qualify that easy.By next game,we will see the team that will follow them,and I think one of those teams are Dortmund and Arsenal who are currently leading their group with 9 points.I really don't know the team that will win this Champions league trophy because most teams are really inform and are aiming for that tittle as well,teams like City,Bayern,Dortmund,Inter and even Arsenal,they are strong contenders for the champions league tittle.I really don't see City being able to defend this tittle because there are teams who seems stronger than City now.

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November 10, 2023, 09:03:19 AM
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Why haven't M.United fired Erik ten Hag yet? Is there no other manager? I don't understand the purpose of the M.United management.

I definitely don't think they can win against Bayern and Galatasaray.
Let alone talking about Erik Ten Hag's dismissal, I haven't heard any rumors until now. Their 3rd Champions League defeat should have made the management open their voices about Erik Ten Hag's future at the club, but as we can see they have been silent until now. I don't know what relationship they have with Erik Ten Hag and it's possible they have more than what's written in the cons. Or it could be that they are moving in silence, by which I mean they are starting to approach other coaches but in a quiet way.

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November 10, 2023, 09:17:34 AM
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These are the six teams that have been confirmed to qualify for the round of 16 and their journey will definitely be easier in the remaining group stage matches. Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, Inter, Leipzig and Manchester City are regular teams in the top 16 and perhaps seeing Real Sociedad's struggle so far in qualifying with this strong team is certainly a good record for them after being absent from this competition for so long. Real Sociedad managed to eliminate Salzburg and Benfica from Group D competition and they succeeded in placing themselves at the top with the same points as Inter. Real Sociedad's performance in the domestic league and champions league is equally good and they deserve this result.
Real Madrid and Manchester City are my favorite team, I've full confidence in these teams mentioned, they have a brilliant squad and competent coach to lead them to path od glory. These are not only the teams, there are more teams that are fighting really hard to qualify. They're up and ready to kickoff in UCL round of 16. They sacrifice enough work to make this work, consistency in outstanding performance and they're heading into a qualified phase. These teams are competitive and strong on the standings in UEFA Champions League.

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November 10, 2023, 09:20:41 AM
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Man United has become the weakest team in Group A, and it's a real mess. With matches left against Bayern and Galatasaray, to secure their spot in the next round in UCL alongside Bayern, Man United needs to win against Galatasaray and avoid losing to Bayern. I couldn't help but notice that in yesterday's game, Man United didn't seem to perform any better than Copenhagen. I had a hunch when Rashford got a red card... disaster was looming in the second half.

Being 2-0 up should have made Man United more cautious, as the game was not entirely controlled by Ten Hag's squad. Bruno Fernandes seemed to play fairly well, staying composed even with just 10 players on the field. Maguire's performance was just average, but he was also the reason for the penalty against Man United. I was really happy with both of their performances, even though they weren't MOTM in this match...  their play had a significant impact on several goals that happened.
You can already forget about Manchester United. They simply have neither the chance nor the desire to play. I'm not even talking about becoming winners.
they simply gave up. The whole club is to blame. Hug is guilty of his negligence and the players are guilty of not wanting to be a team.
With such success as Manchester United, this is a collapse.
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November 10, 2023, 09:21:57 AM
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Why haven't M.United fired Erik ten Hag yet? Is there no other manager? I don't understand the purpose of the M.United management.

I definitely don't think they can win against Bayern and Galatasaray.
Let alone talking about Erik Ten Hag's dismissal, I haven't heard any rumors until now. Their 3rd Champions League defeat should have made the management open their voices about Erik Ten Hag's future at the club, but as we can see they have been silent until now. I don't know what relationship they have with Erik Ten Hag and it's possible they have more than what's written in the cons. Or it could be that they are moving in silence, by which I mean they are starting to approach other coaches but in a quiet way.
This is very likely to happen, considering that management does not want to get pressure from fans if their plans are known in advance. On the other hand, maybe Ten Hag has a special agreement with United regarding his dismissal, this can only be done when Ten Hag loses by a predetermined amount. Everything makes sense, including if the Red Devils management fires Ten Hag in the middle of the season, then they will have to pay a certain amount of compensation. So maybe these considerations made the management and club officials reluctant to end the employment contract with Ten Hag.

What is most unfortunate is when Ten Hag does not change his approach with players, which makes the club only pay their salaries without being able to get a contribution like in the case of Sancho. For me, that is detrimental to the club, because after all, an attitude like that has absolutely no benefits for the team.

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Real Madrid and Manchester City are my favorite team, I've full confidence in these teams mentioned, they have a brilliant squad and competent coach to lead them to path od glory. These are not only the teams, there are more teams that are fighting really hard to qualify. They're up and ready to kickoff in UCL round of 16. They sacrifice enough work to make this work, consistency in outstanding performance and they're heading into a qualified phase. These teams are competitive and strong on the standings in UEFA Champions League.
At least I can still hope that 2 Premier League teams can qualify for the round of 16 instead of just Manchester City. Arsenal and Manchester City are the two best teams from the Premier League who have the opportunity to progress higher in the Champions League this season. Arsenal are not guaranteed to qualify, but they have a big chance of doing so even though the gap between PSV and Lens is only 4 points. It is hard to believe that Arsenal lose the next two matches while Lens and PSG win the next two matches, but one of Lens and PSV will qualify for round of 16.

Barcelona, ​​who represents La Liga, also has a big chance of qualifying if they can win one match from the next two matches. The defeat against Shakhtar was a bit worrying because Barcelona's performance did not match predictions, but they have a better chance than Shakhtar to qualify for the last 16 this season. Apart from Real Madrid and Real Sociedad, Barcelona and Atletico Madrid also have the opportunity to qualify for the round of 16. They'll just have to fight harder to win their next two games, but that's convincing.

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