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Author Topic: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season  (Read 133232 times)
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November 17, 2023, 01:11:07 PM
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Including me I was thinking Manchester United has an upper chances of easily qualifying from there group because Manchester United was not supposed to have much issues on winning there matches because the only strong team that could beat them there is Bayern Munich but on the contrary Manchester United is even making themselves to look like they are the smallest club on there group.

Imagine as big as Manchester United they are on the last position on there group table when they are supposed to be on the second position on the group table if they had performed well, truly Manchester United has really lost form this season.

Never underestimate teams like Copenhagen and Galatasaray is the lesson that every team can learn from this group. Manchester United fell for both Copenhagen and Galatasaray despite having the better team. But not only Manchester United, even Bayern Munich was facing big struggles against Galatasaray and could and should have lost the game. I think it is time to acknowledge for these favorite teams that these seemingly weaker teams can still fight back.

But I disagree about Manchester United and what they were supposed to be as you said. Manchester United is having problems for a while now and I am sure that there were people who bet against them because they knew that this is not gonna be easy for them and they were correct. I didn't expect Manchester United to lose those two games, but I was far from sure that they would win both games.

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November 17, 2023, 01:14:34 PM
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I really admire the work Real Sociedad have done in Group D so far by the way. They have collected 10 points and they are the leading team as well in a group with teams like Inter and Benfica. I wasn't expecting Benfica to be this terrible of course before the group stage started. They just can't perform the same as they do in their domestic league.  Sad

This has created an opportunity for Salzburg to move them out of their way to make it to the Europa League as well but let's see. There are still two more games for Benfica which can be seen as an opportunity to make it to the Europa League instead at least. But I can't trust them even as much as I do for Salzburg.
Yes they have done a good job so far in the Champions League group stages. They have confirmed themselves to be in the round of 16 with Inter Milan representing group D. In the last 2 matches they will play, they can be more relaxed because they can rotate players to anticipate things that are not desirable. Things like this are an advantage in itself, because they can breathe more in the midst of this very busy schedule.
La Liga is a bit of a struggle right now, which is inversely proportional to what they can do in the Champions League. The increased competition in La Liga is one of the causes in my opinion.

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November 17, 2023, 01:16:34 PM
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PSG is actually a strong team and is always the favorite candidate every season. But it is quite surprising because PSG always finds it difficult to go further in the Champions League. Even though at that club last season there were Messi, Neymar and Mbappe. Now only Mbappe is left in the spotlight. And it has been proven that PSG is now increasingly having difficulty qualifying from the group stage. Because almost all of the clubs in Group F have long experience in the Champions League except Newcastle. But Newcastle itself has shown its quality by beating PSG in the first meeting and that surprised everyone. Luis Enrique, who has been coach since this season, will certainly be under a lot of pressure if he fails to take PSG to a higher level. But if only to qualify for the round of 16. I still feel optimistic for PSG. But for more than the top 16 I still have doubts. Unless they get an opponent who is not too strong. Currently Milan, PSG, Dortmund and Newcastle appear to be evenly matched in strength. so it is difficult to see which of the 4 clubs will qualify. But many are pessimistic about Newcastle, including me personally. My prediction is that Milan and PSG will ultimately succeed in qualifying from the group stage.
Even me I use to be very surprised as how good in performance they are but always difficult for them to perform on champion league, especially when the club was feel with experience players like Lionel Messi so then I was expecting that since they have all those quality players the possibility of wining any league will be very easy for them but on the contrary it became worst because after having those quality players PSG was as if there load was much and they were losing matches they had chances of wining.

But however they seem to have been performing really well now after selling most of there stars but there challenges is always on champion league because no matter how they tried they always end up not going far.
Sometimes having too many star players on the field is not always a positive thing for a team. Because sometimes all the star players want to be the most prominent, so competition within the team itself makes the squad less harmonious. And that's what I saw from PSG in the last few seasons. They have a great squad. But this does not mean that PSG can climb to the top of the Champions League. Even though the games they show are always classy and very neat.

And conversely, sometimes teams that don't have many star players can play better. Because they don't try to shine alone but they work together well and unite their strengths. Because they realize that they are not the favored players. so that only good cooperation can cover their shortcomings. And things like this usually happen to clubs that are dark horses in a league.
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November 17, 2023, 01:27:57 PM
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Including me I was thinking Manchester United has an upper chances of easily qualifying from there group because Manchester United was not supposed to have much issues on winning there matches because the only strong team that could beat them there is Bayern Munich but on the contrary Manchester United is even making themselves to look like they are the smallest club on there group.

Imagine as big as Manchester United they are on the last position on there group table when they are supposed to be on the second position on the group table if they had performed well, truly Manchester United has really lost form this season.

Never underestimate teams like Copenhagen and Galatasaray is the lesson that every team can learn from this group. Manchester United fell for both Copenhagen and Galatasaray despite having the better team. But not only Manchester United, even Bayern Munich was facing big struggles against Galatasaray and could and should have lost the game. I think it is time to acknowledge for these favorite teams that these seemingly weaker teams can still fight back.

But I disagree about Manchester United and what they were supposed to be as you said. Manchester United is having problems for a while now and I am sure that there were people who bet against them because they knew that this is not gonna be easy for them and they were correct. I didn't expect Manchester United to lose those two games, but I was far from sure that they would win both games.
Anyone who watched the second leg game between Copenhagen and Manchester United last week will definitely not want to underestimate the strength of the Copenhagen team. The resilience spirit of the is like that of team who's desperately trying to make it out of the group and knowing fully well that a win against Galatasaray in their next game can be enough to see them make it to the knockout stages of the competition, I think they'll even show more strength in that very game. In the first game they played against Galatasaray this season at the home of the Turkish champions, Copenhagen got a 2:2 draw and with the support of their home fans, they can take all three points in the game against Galatasaray.

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November 17, 2023, 01:54:16 PM
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Bayern Munich will find it really difficult to win  UEFA Champions league this season because of some reasons,they have a squad that can win anything,but they still need time to play well with a top nine that is consistent in goalscoring.Kane has been an answer to that problem ever since he moved to Spain,and I knew what ever thing that made him start to find the back of the net,it would be his habbit to score goals.I so much have faith in Kane but despite all of these,I still dont see them as people who can win the champions league.There are few teams which I tip to be stronger than Bayern,and those teams are City, Arsenal,and Dortmund.I know it might sound some how that I chose Dortmund over Bayern,Yes,Dortmund to me look stronger in the champions league than Bayern.

That's because Dortmund has currently managed to top a group containing strong clubs in the Champions League. Dortmund appeared consistently to be able to move to the next round. but Munich is currently also very tough. although it's too soon to say they can get the Champions League trophy. but they have a chance.
it all also depends on the situation of their next opponents in the last 16. there will bring together more strong teams. We can see what happened last season when several strong teams ended up being eliminated early in the round of 16. we won't know the result, but Munich and other strong teams have the same chance of winning the trophy. it all depends on their efforts and preparation.
Their are lots of clubs that are performing well in Champions league right now, it is still early to tell which club will end up winning the champions league.  One thing I can see in the Champions League this season is that most of the big clubs are really doing well  which is making the league to be very interesting.  It is so impressive seeing Dortmund doing well in Champions league but it will be very nice if they can still maintain their good enery in the competition. The competition will be tough because it will be a fight between teams like Bayern Munich,  Manchester City and Real Madrid.

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November 17, 2023, 02:12:11 PM
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Sometimes having too many star players on the field is not always a positive thing for a team. Because sometimes all the star players want to be the most prominent, so competition within the team itself makes the squad less harmonious. And that's what I saw from PSG in the last few seasons. They have a great squad. But this does not mean that PSG can climb to the top of the Champions League. Even though the games they show are always classy and very neat.
Real Madrid got that issues with their Galaticos 1.0. After selling Makelele to Chelsea, their squad became weaker in defense and there is no longer proactively defense from the midfield. With many attacking star players, they became more sensitive with counter attacks from opponents and Galaticos 1.0 failed. They learned from it and improved with Galaticos 2.0 and we all witnessed they won 5 Champions League within a few years, that is a massive achievement from Real Madrid.

So far, PSG spent a lot of money but failed because their strategy is not good, can not compare to Real Madrid or Manchester City that started to gain success in Champions League last season.

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And conversely, sometimes teams that don't have many star players can play better. Because they don't try to shine alone but they work together well and unite their strengths. Because they realize that they are not the favored players. so that only good cooperation can cover their shortcomings. And things like this usually happen to clubs that are dark horses in a league.
A team must be united and if they are a team like that, they can play well because players can cover each other and become a stronger team. With many star players, they have high ego and don't want to cover their team mates so a team with full of star players can still be a weak team like PSG.

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November 17, 2023, 02:16:51 PM
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Bayern Munich will find it really difficult to win  UEFA Champions league this season because of some reasons,they have a squad that can win anything,but they still need time to play well with a top nine that is consistent in goalscoring.Kane has been an answer to that problem ever since he moved to Spain,and I knew what ever thing that made him start to find the back of the net,it would be his habbit to score goals.I so much have faith in Kane but despite all of these,I still dont see them as people who can win the champions league.There are few teams which I tip to be stronger than Bayern,and those teams are City, Arsenal,and Dortmund.I know it might sound some how that I chose Dortmund over Bayern,Yes,Dortmund to me look stronger in the champions league than Bayern.
That's because Dortmund has currently managed to top a group containing strong clubs in the Champions League. Dortmund appeared consistently to be able to move to the next round. but Munich is currently also very tough. although it's too soon to say they can get the Champions League trophy. but they have a chance.
it all also depends on the situation of their next opponents in the last 16. there will bring together more strong teams. We can see what happened last season when several strong teams ended up being eliminated early in the round of 16. we won't know the result, but Munich and other strong teams have the same chance of winning the trophy. it all depends on their efforts and preparation.
Their are lots of clubs that are performing well in Champions league right now, it is still early to tell which club will end up winning the champions league.  One thing I can see in the Champions League this season is that most of the big clubs are really doing well  which is making the league to be very interesting.  It is so impressive seeing Dortmund doing well in Champions league but it will be very nice if they can still maintain their good enery in the competition. The competition will be tough because it will be a fight between teams like Bayern Munich,  Manchester City and Real Madrid.

This year's Champions League has become quite competitive. Bayern Munich  and Manchester City have  very strong squads. And they  are consistently playing well. In addition,  Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Real  Sociedad Atlético  Madrid and Inter Milan  have performed very well. The four La Liga teams Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico  Madrid and Sociedad have played well and will  surely qualify for the knockout rounds. City, Munich and  Madrid are considered to be the  favorites for this year's title. However  the road to qualifying for the Champions League final will not be easy for them.

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November 17, 2023, 02:25:26 PM
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This year's Champions League has become quite competitive. Bayern Munich  and Manchester City have  very strong squads. And they  are consistently playing well. In addition,  Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Real  Sociedad Atlético  Madrid and Inter Milan  have performed very well. The four La Liga teams Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico  Madrid and Sociedad have played well and will  surely qualify for the knockout rounds. City, Munich and  Madrid are considered to be the  favorites for this year's title. However  the road to qualifying for the Champions League final will not be easy for them.

But a lot of things can happen until these games for the knockout round finally begin. For teams like Real Madrid and Bayern Munich it is incredibly important that the key players stay healthy. It would really change a lot for one of those teams if for example Harry Kane gets injured or Bellingham gets injured. I think Manchester City, due to having so many midfielders with offensive potential, would be most able to have a plan in case Haaland is injured. For Bayern Munich it would be tough and for Real Madrid Bellingham is also irreplaceable.

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November 17, 2023, 02:28:03 PM
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I really admire the work Real Sociedad have done in Group D so far by the way. They have collected 10 points and they are the leading team as well in a group with teams like Inter and Benfica. I wasn't expecting Benfica to be this terrible of course before the group stage started. They just can't perform the same as they do in their domestic league.  Sad

This has created an opportunity for Salzburg to move them out of their way to make it to the Europa League as well but let's see. There are still two more games for Benfica which can be seen as an opportunity to make it to the Europa League instead at least. But I can't trust them even as much as I do for Salzburg.
Unbelievable with Real Sociedad achievement as not favorite team but success managed to position awhile in Group D of UEFA Champion League, they have the same 10 points with Inter Milan and both teams have been qualified to 16th round just waiting for the first and second standings position finish. Current Group D teams, I think Inter Milan and Benfica are experienced teams in Champion League will be easily qualify to next round but unpredictable with Benfica have on the bottom placed without winning one match yet from four matches.

Left two matches on group stage, seems realistic with Benfica finish on 3rd standings place for qualifying to UEFA Europe League but they have win two matches left due the above standing teams RB Salzburg have three points right now, one match draw enough to lock one place in playoff round of Europe League.

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November 17, 2023, 02:32:56 PM
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Bayern Munich will find it really difficult to win  UEFA Champions league this season because of some reasons,they have a squad that can win anything,but they still need time to play well with a top nine that is consistent in goalscoring.Kane has been an answer to that problem ever since he moved to Spain,and I knew what ever thing that made him start to find the back of the net,it would be his habbit to score goals.I so much have faith in Kane but despite all of these,I still dont see them as people who can win the champions league.There are few teams which I tip to be stronger than Bayern,and those teams are City, Arsenal,and Dortmund.I know it might sound some how that I chose Dortmund over Bayern,Yes,Dortmund to me look stronger in the champions league than Bayern.

That's because Dortmund has currently managed to top a group containing strong clubs in the Champions League. Dortmund appeared consistently to be able to move to the next round. but Munich is currently also very tough. although it's too soon to say they can get the Champions League trophy. but they have a chance.
it all also depends on the situation of their next opponents in the last 16. there will bring together more strong teams. We can see what happened last season when several strong teams ended up being eliminated early in the round of 16. we won't know the result, but Munich and other strong teams have the same chance of winning the trophy. it all depends on their efforts and preparation.
Their are lots of clubs that are performing well in Champions league right now, it is still early to tell which club will end up winning the champions league.  One thing I can see in the Champions League this season is that most of the big clubs are really doing well  which is making the league to be very interesting.  It is so impressive seeing Dortmund doing well in Champions league but it will be very nice if they can still maintain their good enery in the competition. The competition will be tough because it will be a fight between teams like Bayern Munich,  Manchester City and Real Madrid.
That's true and whatever the result, these teams can still maintain the same chances as last season, but regardless of who will become champions, it is still difficult to predict. At least this team has fought well and it's just a matter of how they can maintain this until they advance to the higher rounds. Dortmund is still a team that has the possibility of qualifying despite the complicated competition in Group F and I want to see all the teams fight until the end to get a slot in the round of 16. Well, the three teams you mentioned have been strong candidates every season and are always at least the favorites to fight until the semifinals before one of them finally wins this competition.

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November 17, 2023, 02:36:05 PM
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Erik Ten Hag's team are bottom of Group A with 3 points, but they are only one point behind second-placed Copenhagen with two matches remaining. Man Utd will visit Galatasaray in the penultimate match before hosting Bayern Munich at Old Trafford. Coach Ten Hag and his team need to win both remaining games. Even if they win both of these matches, coach Erik ten Hag and his team are still not sure of continuing. There is still a case where Copenhagen also wins both Galatasaray and Bayern Munich, and then Copenhagen will win a ticket to the 1/8 round. Not to mention, in the final match, Man Utd will have to face a mighty Bayern Munich. It's difficult for Man Utd to get a ticket to continue.
What's happening with Manchester United worries me. They're in trouble and haven't played well this season. They were in jeopardy after losing at home to Galatasaray and losing to Copenhagen, especially after Rashford's error that got him sent off. In any case, their attack has been poor. Not exceeding 13 goals in 12 league games? Obviously not Manchester United. Defence isn't improving either. They need to reverse their form, which is unlikely, to win their next two games. To qualify for the Europa League, they should aim for third place. Though difficult to admit, their present play makes it impossible to beat Bayern Munich. Their Champions League trip appears more like a fight to survive than a win. Things are sad, but they must accept it

It's unlikely to happen. Manchester united needs also to gamble with its last live. Draw or lose against galatasaray will be result manchester united will be out from the UCL. The chance for MU to win against galatasaray away is pretty small.
I would like to pick galatasaray in this case instead of manchester united. Galatasaray looks a bit better. It was able beating manchester united away. It will give galatasaray a lot of advantage to play at home against manchester united.
Manchester united may do some changes before the match like use the different strategy. I dunno whether manchester will able to use casemiro or it will keep stick with the same line up in EPL.
Ten hag needs to do some changes caused by this is really impacting the performance from manchester united at this moment.

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November 17, 2023, 02:44:42 PM
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What I can say about this that real Madrid can win this champions league 2023/2024 has a good team and perfect coach ; either for man city can win but real madrid have a good luck just we will wait the other days.
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This year's Champions League has become quite competitive. Bayern Munich  and Manchester City have  very strong squads. And they  are consistently playing well. In addition,  Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Real  Sociedad Atlético  Madrid and Inter Milan  have performed very well. The four La Liga teams Barcelona, Real Madrid, Atletico  Madrid and Sociedad have played well and will  surely qualify for the knockout rounds. City, Munich and  Madrid are considered to be the  favorites for this year's title. However  the road to qualifying for the Champions League final will not be easy for them.
In general, Real Madrid, Bayern Munchen, Manchester City and Inter Milan are at the top of the list as favorite clubs in the 2023-2024 edition of the Champions League. I am quite sure that two of the four clubs above will advance to the final round. Looking at the depth of the squad and the attributes they have, Arsenal and PSG actually have the same thing but both have not reached their best point in the last decade. Apart from that, I also agree with you regarding several clubs that are playing well at the moment, and in fact I think they can really make a surprise in the next round.

Several clubs who have the ambition to talk a lot in the UCL this season will be active again in the transfer market in January 2024, they will patch up the lines which are considered to be the team weak points. Big names like Mbappe and Osimhen are always linked with some of the UCL favorite clubs, I can't wait for the International break to end and enjoy the remaining two matches in the Group Phase.

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November 17, 2023, 03:05:22 PM
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I really admire the work Real Sociedad have done in Group D so far by the way. They have collected 10 points and they are the leading team as well in a group with teams like Inter and Benfica. I wasn't expecting Benfica to be this terrible of course before the group stage started. They just can't perform the same as they do in their domestic league.  Sad

This has created an opportunity for Salzburg to move them out of their way to make it to the Europa League as well but let's see. There are still two more games for Benfica which can be seen as an opportunity to make it to the Europa League instead at least. But I can't trust them even as much as I do for Salzburg.

There are only two matches left and Benfica will play against Inter and in the last match later, Benfica will play away against Salzburg. With a schedule like that, it seems I am not sure about Benfica being able to finish in third place because of course, Salzburg will also try hard to be able to maintain its position to finish in third position. Benfica really had bad results this season in the Champions League, unlike last season when Benfica managed to win the group ahead of PSG and Juventus. But this season, it seems like Benfica is really experiencing a decline in performance in the Champions League, so I would doubt Benfica this moment.

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November 17, 2023, 03:11:29 PM
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According to the rules of the draw, the team that takes first place will have to play the team that took second place, so really strong opponents should not face Bayern in 1/8. Naturally, this does not mean that Bayern will automatically receive a ticket to the quarter-finals, I think everyone remembers how Villarreal unexpectedly knocked Bayern out of the tournament the season before last. But still, I assume that for some of the favorites this season will be the easiest in history.
There are always surprises in football and this is what makes football even more interesting.
Currently the team is struggling to qualify for the round of 16 by being at the top of the group standings because indirectly during the draw they will get a slightly easier opponent compared to having to meet the team leading the group standings which is definitely a strong team.
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By the way, I see a funny pattern: last season, Bayern took first place in a very difficult group (Inter + Barcelona), but immediately in the 1/8 they received a very serious opponent - PSG (with a supposedly stellar lineup in the form of Neymar and Messi). This season the situation may repeat itself again as PSG plays in the group of death and the situation there is extremely confusing. It’s just a pity that PSG has a more serious squad this season, and although Bayern itself has strengthened, I think it will be more difficult to beat PSG this time.

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November 17, 2023, 03:17:28 PM
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Manchester United really don't have the toughest group. Only Bayern are serious opponents, but for unknown reasons Manchester United have lost three games and won just one. I always thought that they will not experience difficulties in this qualification, but Galatasaray and Copenhagen have more points so far.
You should really know the reasons why Manchester United lost 3 times in 4 group stage matches so far if you watched the matches. Manchester United's performance was disrupted by several problems, especially player injuries and poor defense.

Manchester United have clearly established themselves as the third worst team in defense in 4 games so far apart from Antwerp [14], Celtic [12], and Young Boys [11]. So clearly you have to realize what Manchester United's weaknesses are this season, while their striker performance is also not good. Ten Hag is responsible for the team's poor performance, but he is still confident of improving as long as management still entrusts him as coach.

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November 17, 2023, 03:19:11 PM
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Bayern Munich will find it really difficult to win  UEFA Champions league this season because of some reasons,they have a squad that can win anything,but they still need time to play well with a top nine that is consistent in goalscoring.Kane has been an answer to that problem ever since he moved to Spain,and I knew what ever thing that made him start to find the back of the net,it would be his habbit to score goals.I so much have faith in Kane but despite all of these,I still dont see them as people who can win the champions league.There are few teams which I tip to be stronger than Bayern,and those teams are City, Arsenal,and Dortmund.I know it might sound some how that I chose Dortmund over Bayern,Yes,Dortmund to me look stronger in the champions league than Bayern.

That's because Dortmund has currently managed to top a group containing strong clubs in the Champions League. Dortmund appeared consistently to be able to move to the next round. but Munich is currently also very tough. although it's too soon to say they can get the Champions League trophy. but they have a chance.
it all also depends on the situation of their next opponents in the last 16. there will bring together more strong teams. We can see what happened last season when several strong teams ended up being eliminated early in the round of 16. we won't know the result, but Munich and other strong teams have the same chance of winning the trophy. it all depends on their efforts and preparation.
Their are lots of clubs that are performing well in Champions league right now, it is still early to tell which club will end up winning the champions league.  One thing I can see in the Champions League this season is that most of the big clubs are really doing well  which is making the league to be very interesting.  It is so impressive seeing Dortmund doing well in Champions league but it will be very nice if they can still maintain their good enery in the competition. The competition will be tough because it will be a fight between teams like Bayern Munich,  Manchester City and Real Madrid.

Borrussia Dortmund would remain a dump club for me, they can't even win a game to decide them league winners, so I can't give that same trust to them in the Champions League.
They've done massively so far, but even if they should qualify outta that group, they're going nowhere honestly. Last time I watched a good game from Borrussia Dortmund was the night Robert Lewandoski scored four goals against Real Madrid ( With Jurgen Klopp as head coach of Borrussia Dortmund )

The favorites for the Champions League remains, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Inter Milan and Real Madrid. I can't say same for Manchester United, unless a miracle happens.

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November 17, 2023, 03:33:06 PM
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When it comes to Barcelona's condition in the competition so far I can say that they are doing well. But I must admit that it was too much to lose to Shakhtar away there. Of course Ukraine teams can play different when it comes to home matches. But I remember how they lost to Porto home at the same time (1-3).

Barcelona were already in a comfortable place maybe but I would expect them to get at least one point. Anyways I don't think they would mess things up this time about qualifying from the group stage successfully. Xavi had better manage to do this otherwise the streak of not being able to get past this stage will continue.

Currently, and I dont understand the problem, Barcelona are struggling in the Champions League. Yet given its enormous strength and very strong players it shouldnt. Lets say that I am satisfied with Barcelonas performance in La Liga, but absolutely not with their performance in the Champions League.

I hope that Xavi understands and fixes the problem, and that he passes the group stage, as you say.

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November 17, 2023, 03:33:16 PM
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Bayern Munich will find it really difficult to win  UEFA Champions league this season because of some reasons,they have a squad that can win anything,but they still need time to play well with a top nine that is consistent in goalscoring.Kane has been an answer to that problem ever since he moved to Spain,and I knew what ever thing that made him start to find the back of the net,it would be his habbit to score goals.I so much have faith in Kane but despite all of these,I still dont see them as people who can win the champions league.There are few teams which I tip to be stronger than Bayern,and those teams are City, Arsenal,and Dortmund.I know it might sound some how that I chose Dortmund over Bayern,Yes,Dortmund to me look stronger in the champions league than Bayern.
That's because Dortmund has currently managed to top a group containing strong clubs in the Champions League. Dortmund appeared consistently to be able to move to the next round. but Munich is currently also very tough. although it's too soon to say they can get the Champions League trophy. but they have a chance.
it all also depends on the situation of their next opponents in the last 16. there will bring together more strong teams. We can see what happened last season when several strong teams ended up being eliminated early in the round of 16. we won't know the result, but Munich and other strong teams have the same chance of winning the trophy. it all depends on their efforts and preparation.
Their are lots of clubs that are performing well in Champions league right now, it is still early to tell which club will end up winning the champions league.  One thing I can see in the Champions League this season is that most of the big clubs are really doing well  which is making the league to be very interesting.  It is so impressive seeing Dortmund doing well in Champions league but it will be very nice if they can still maintain their good enery in the competition. The competition will be tough because it will be a fight between teams like Bayern Munich,  Manchester City and Real Madrid.
Borrussia Dortmund would remain a dump club for me, they can't even win a game to decide them league winners, so I can't give that same trust to them in the Champions League.
They've done massively so far, but even if they should qualify outta that group, they're going nowhere honestly. Last time I watched a good game from Borrussia Dortmund was the night Robert Lewandoski scored four goals against Real Madrid ( With Jurgen Klopp as head coach of Borrussia Dortmund )

The favorites for the Champions League remains, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Barcelona, Inter Milan and Real Madrid. I can't say same for Manchester United, unless a miracle happens.

I am not sure if Dortmund will qualify for the knockout round. Despite being at the top of the group, this team's performance has been erratic. In the last two matches they will play against Milan and PSG. And in both these matches they have a big chance to lose. I will hold myself back from betting on Dortmund in these two matches. My two favorite teams from Group F are Milan and PSG. Both teams will probably play in the Round of 16.

The performance of the Barcelona team is quite erratic. If you want to dominate the Champions League, it is important to have consistency in performance. Barcelona has no consistency in performance. Xavi needs to work harder to strengthen his attack. But Madrid, City and Munich are very strong this season.

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November 17, 2023, 03:40:29 PM
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When it comes to Barcelona's condition in the competition so far I can say that they are doing well. But I must admit that it was too much to lose to Shakhtar away there. Of course Ukraine teams can play different when it comes to home matches. But I remember how they lost to Porto home at the same time (1-3).

Barcelona were already in a comfortable place maybe but I would expect them to get at least one point. Anyways I don't think they would mess things up this time about qualifying from the group stage successfully. Xavi had better manage to do this otherwise the streak of not being able to get past this stage will continue.

Currently, and I dont understand the problem, Barcelona are struggling in the Champions League. Yet given its enormous strength and very strong players it shouldnt. Lets say that I am satisfied with Barcelonas performance in La Liga, but absolutely not with their performance in the Champions League.

I hope that Xavi understands and fixes the problem, and that he passes the group stage, as you say.

I don’t think Barcelona will fail to make it out of the group even when their performance is not too good at the moment. There are somethings that a club necessitates more than others, La Liga is still a long time league to go from now and in Champions league they can be eliminated from the competition at any stage. I know Xavi will try to improve the team in all aspects but will give consideration on the team qualifying from the group stage than he will give now to the La Liga which I think they’re not also in a bad position now.

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