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November 20, 2023, 12:44:51 PM
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It would be very natural for me, if this time Galatasaray was slightly superior to Manchester United. After all, the match was played at Rams Park, Galatasaray's headquarters. Apart from that, there are many factors that make United considered to have only a slim chance of winning the match against Galatasaray. Actually, I haven't collected all the information, especially for United. whether the injuries to Hojlund, Eriksen, the status of Rashford, Antony and others. So in this post, I will only opine based on what I know.

The point is, United's conditions and situation are indeed unpleasant and have affected their performance so far. That's why there is little hope that United will progress from the group phase. It's no different if United targets finishing in 3rd place. with the scenario, they have tickets to the playoffs in the European League. The situation is not very conducive for Erik Ten Hag's squad. However, make no mistake if unexpected things can happen. United could perform optimally, even though the players they play are second tier, especially on the front line. and this could be a problem for Galatasaray. because, they have to consider if there are any surprises in the match on matchday five.
Moreover, in terms of betting odds, there is no significant difference, the point is that both teams will play as hard as possible to achieve the full points they hope to get. In the match, we will be presented with something interesting and I hope that these two teams will put on a very exciting match. Regarding the final result, we will find out later.

Galatasaray will probably be served the win on a silver platter in that Manchester United match.  Smiley  Because just as you have mentioned Manchester United are dealing with injury problems also like it isn't enough for them to play inconsistently this season. In the circumstances I don't know how Erik ten Hag can deal with it.

It is going to be up to Galatasaray to be efficient on their attacks this time. Because their one of limited problems is this now. They played amazingly even against Bayern Munich in both matches. However they wasted a lot of opportunities to score.  Sad  If the manager Okan Buruk finds a solution to this then I don't see anything holding Galatasaray back from defeating Manchester United twice.

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November 20, 2023, 12:51:17 PM
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It would be very natural for me, if this time Galatasaray was slightly superior to Manchester United. After all, the match was played at Rams Park, Galatasaray's headquarters. Apart from that, there are many factors that make United considered to have only a slim chance of winning the match against Galatasaray. Actually, I haven't collected all the information, especially for United. whether the injuries to Hojlund, Eriksen, the status of Rashford, Antony and others. So in this post, I will only opine based on what I know.

The point is, United's conditions and situation are indeed unpleasant and have affected their performance so far. That's why there is little hope that United will progress from the group phase. It's no different if United targets finishing in 3rd place. with the scenario, they have tickets to the playoffs in the European League. The situation is not very conducive for Erik Ten Hag's squad. However, make no mistake if unexpected things can happen. United could perform optimally, even though the players they play are second tier, especially on the front line. and this could be a problem for Galatasaray. because, they have to consider if there are any surprises in the match on matchday five.
Moreover, in terms of betting odds, there is no significant difference, the point is that both teams will play as hard as possible to achieve the full points they hope to get. In the match, we will be presented with something interesting and I hope that these two teams will put on a very exciting match. Regarding the final result, we will find out later.
For Manchester United, it's unwise to predict their performance. Normally their performances has been poor from the start of the season till now, one cannot be confident in the outcome of their games to be in favor of United.

 Galatasaray has been up and doing and there's a higher chance that they have upper hand again Manchester United, the player's state and team generally for Manchester United is more of less the issue they're faced with and it needs to be fixed because if not their Europa League contest race will be in jeopardy.

 Currently they're less better than most teams in the race and to be honest, there's a whole lot of threatening clubs looming, Manchester United just has to work on themselves to fix their errors and see a way that they're balanced up a bit to contest against both weaker and stronger teams, there's lots of work to be done.
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November 20, 2023, 01:04:53 PM
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For Manchester United, it's unwise to predict their performance. Normally their performances has been poor from the start of the season till now, one cannot be confident in the outcome of their games to be in favor of United.

 Galatasaray has been up and doing and there's a higher chance that they have upper hand again Manchester United, the player's state and team generally for Manchester United is more of less the issue they're faced with and it needs to be fixed because if not their Europa League contest race will be in jeopardy.

 Currently they're less better than most teams in the race and to be honest, there's a whole lot of threatening clubs looming, Manchester United just has to work on themselves to fix their errors and see a way that they're balanced up a bit to contest against both weaker and stronger teams, there's lots of work to be done.
Erik Ten Hag is genius and there's limited opportunities for them to reach good positions, for him to rebuild the team into a strong one, he still gave time to make things right for the Red Devils. Manchester united spot on qualifying from UCL Group is under probability because they're ranked least on the table, hope for the Europa League is shattered. Manchester united are Champs but all their glory have been in history, there's nothing brilliant about the present form of the Red Devils because they have failed to record winning which is consider important and very inconsistent in league matches.

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November 20, 2023, 01:12:00 PM
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Barcelona are minus one player from the starting lineup. This is Gavi, he was seriously injured while playing for the Spanish national team. She received a rupture of the cross and thus ended up in treatment
 for at least half a year. Fortunately, Xavi has someone to replace him.
Do you think this will cause problems for the team?
This is really bad because not only for Barcelona, it's also bad for Spain and Gavi himself. Now Gavi is being told that the injury is so serious that it might even mean an early end to the season for him as he will have to rest for a long time even until the end of the season when he won't be able to play (the worst possibility in some rumors like that).
But it is also  quite reasonable because Barcelona has given a statement that Gavi is now experiencing an ACL problem that requires him to be absent for a long time and we certainly know that some players who have received ACL injuries are difficult to get back to their performance in a period of time.

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November 20, 2023, 01:26:36 PM
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Barcelona are minus one player from the starting lineup. This is Gavi, he was seriously injured while playing for the Spanish national team. She received a rupture of the cross and thus ended up in treatment
 for at least half a year. Fortunately, Xavi has someone to replace him.
Do you think this will cause problems for the team?
This is really bad because not only for Barcelona, it's also bad for Spain and Gavi himself. Now Gavi is being told that the injury is so serious that it might even mean an early end to the season for him as he will have to rest for a long time even until the end of the season when he won't be able to play (the worst possibility in some rumors like that).
But it is also  quite reasonable because Barcelona has given a statement that Gavi is now experiencing an ACL problem that requires him to be absent for a long time and we certainly know that some players who have received ACL injuries are difficult to get back to their performance in a period of time.
So Gavi might not be able to play on the field after this injury?
They have a difficult rehabilitation ahead of them. After reading about this injury, we can say that not only this season is closed for him, but most likely the next one as well. Let's hope he gets better soon and returns to playing.
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November 20, 2023, 01:49:15 PM
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This is really bad because not only for Barcelona, it's also bad for Spain and Gavi himself. Now Gavi is being told that the injury is so serious that it might even mean an early end to the season for him as he will have to rest for a long time even until the end of the season when he won't be able to play (the worst possibility in some rumors like that).
But it is also  quite reasonable because Barcelona has given a statement that Gavi is now experiencing an ACL problem that requires him to be absent for a long time and we certainly know that some players who have received ACL injuries are difficult to get back to their performance in a period of time.
It is preliminary known that Gavi will miss about 9 months and will miss Euro 2024. And in Barcelona they are now blaming Luis de la Fuente because he subjected the player to unnecessary stress in preparation and in the match with Georgia, which did not decide anything for Spain.

Perhaps in such matches it was really not worth using such important players as Gavi, and it was worth giving him a rest, but de la Fuente says that Gavi was ready to play and what happened was an accident. I don't think anyone wanted this to happen, but now Barcelona and Spain are losing a very important player for a very long time.

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November 20, 2023, 02:09:48 PM
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Barcelona are minus one player from the starting lineup. This is Gavi, he was seriously injured while playing for the Spanish national team. She received a rupture of the cross and thus ended up in treatment
 for at least half a year. Fortunately, Xavi has someone to replace him.
Do you think this will cause problems for the team?
Missing gavi would not be a problem as there are some who can fill his position. The main problem if barcelona will not be only missing. Ter stegen may also missing some matches. Stegen has been always able saving the clubs from conceding lots of goal.
I can't even imagine when barcelona must have performed with the back up goal keeper. The performance between stegen and secondary goal keeper is so different. This thing makes me feel worry about that.

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November 20, 2023, 02:15:02 PM
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Barcelona are minus one player from the starting lineup. This is Gavi, he was seriously injured while playing for the Spanish national team. She received a rupture of the cross and thus ended up in treatment
 for at least half a year. Fortunately, Xavi has someone to replace him.
Do you think this will cause problems for the team?
Missing gavi would not be a problem as there are some who can fill his position. The main problem if barcelona will not be only missing. Ter stegen may also missing some matches. Stegen has been always able saving the clubs from conceding lots of goal.
I can't even imagine when barcelona must have performed with the back up goal keeper. The performance between stegen and secondary goal keeper is so different. This thing makes me feel worry about that.
Barcelona, ​​like Manchester United, will have a difficult time ahead. But unlike Manchester United, Barcelona has a fairly strong defense, changing the goalkeeper will have an impact, but in my opinion, not as influential as problems with defenders.
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November 20, 2023, 02:27:50 PM
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That is the main reason why people called that as a bottle club. winning so many weeks and lead the competition till mid season but it was losing at the end. That is not the first time for arsenal to bottling the competition. Arsenal has been recorded doing the same thing for a few times.
People are aware about the habit of arsenal. This is the main reason why people can't really count on arteta's club when it was leading the league. Arsenal can go down anytime without any notice.
Arsenal is totenham's brother. These clubs are always being called as bottle clubs.
The main problem that is difficult to form within Arsenal is a Champion Mentality, no one doubts that Arsenal is a strong team, but in the end they always have difficulty winning trophies. Last season people started to think this was Arsenal's year, but that assumption disappeared after they started to lack consistency after the season was almost over.
The champion mental problem, which has not been able to be eliminated, means that the London cannon always jams towards the end of the competition. I don't have any hopes at all for Arsenal, even though they appear as challengers in the UCL, their progress will not reach the Final.

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November 20, 2023, 02:29:35 PM
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For Manchester United, it's unwise to predict their performance. Normally their performances has been poor from the start of the season till now, one cannot be confident in the outcome of their games to be in favor of United.
That's for sure we can never predict there matches because sometimes the more we expect from them the less we see because Manchester United is not in a good shape this season premier league so actually is obvious that the possibility of them going far on this premier league season if not possible because there performance has not proving worthy to go far.

However Manchester United and Chelsea almost have the same thing in common because you can hardly predict them on a match, because on that Chelsea match against Manchester City nobody believes they could perform the way they did but however on there normal matches with small clubs they finds it difficult to win.

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For Manchester United, it's unwise to predict their performance. Normally their performances has been poor from the start of the season till now, one cannot be confident in the outcome of their games to be in favor of United.
That's for sure we can never predict there matches because sometimes the more we expect from them the less we see because Manchester United is not in a good shape this season premier league so actually is obvious that the possibility of them going far on this premier league season if not possible because there performance has not proving worthy to go far.

However Manchester United and Chelsea almost have the same thing in common because you can hardly predict them on a match, because on that Chelsea match against Manchester City nobody believes they could perform the way they did but however on there normal matches with small clubs they finds it difficult to win.
There really is no way to assume or hope for anything. Now is a time where anything can happen, from injuries to league fines. The competition is so high that anything can happen. and don’t forget about match-fixing. Nowadays money is everything. There is no football like it used to be, when the club's matchmaker could not match any amount of money.
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November 20, 2023, 03:01:46 PM
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That is the main reason why people called that as a bottle club. winning so many weeks and lead the competition till mid season but it was losing at the end. That is not the first time for arsenal to bottling the competition. Arsenal has been recorded doing the same thing for a few times.
People are aware about the habit of arsenal. This is the main reason why people can't really count on arteta's club when it was leading the league. Arsenal can go down anytime without any notice.
Arsenal is totenham's brother. These clubs are always being called as bottle clubs.
The main problem that is difficult to form within Arsenal is a Champion Mentality, no one doubts that Arsenal is a strong team, but in the end they always have difficulty winning trophies. Last season people started to think this was Arsenal's year, but that assumption disappeared after they started to lack consistency after the season was almost over.
The champion mental problem, which has not been able to be eliminated, means that the London cannon always jams towards the end of the competition. I don't have any hopes at all for Arsenal, even though they appear as challengers in the UCL, their progress will not reach the Final.
If I'm not mistaken, Arsenal haven't won the EPL for exactly two decades, what's great is that the Gunner won it by going undefeated all season. After that, until now their acute illness has never recovered, namely losing points when the season almost ended, I will never forget how they ended last season. I agree with you, that Arteta must try to build a squad with the foundation of a winning mentality, not only in the EPL but in the UCL.

This season Arsenal are quite active in shopping for players in the transfer window, in their efforts to hunt for the championship trophy. It has been proven that so far Arteta squad has gone smoothly in the group phase by only losing once to Lens, even though this was a defeat that surprised us all. I think Arsenal will qualify for the round of 16 as group winners. On the other hand it is not wrong to think that Arsenal can go far in the UCL this season, arteta is very ambitious to achieve success this season with his best squad.

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November 20, 2023, 03:22:51 PM
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For Manchester United, it's unwise to predict their performance. Normally their performances has been poor from the start of the season till now, one cannot be confident in the outcome of their games to be in favor of United.

 Galatasaray has been up and doing and there's a higher chance that they have upper hand again Manchester United, the player's state and team generally for Manchester United is more of less the issue they're faced with and it needs to be fixed because if not their Europa League contest race will be in jeopardy.

 Currently they're less better than most teams in the race and to be honest, there's a whole lot of threatening clubs looming, Manchester United just has to work on themselves to fix their errors and see a way that they're balanced up a bit to contest against both weaker and stronger teams, there's lots of work to be done.
Erik Ten Hag is genius and there's limited opportunities for them to reach good positions, for him to rebuild the team into a strong one, he still gave time to make things right for the Red Devils. Manchester united spot on qualifying from UCL Group is under probability because they're ranked least on the table, hope for the Europa League is shattered. Manchester united are Champs but all their glory have been in history, there's nothing brilliant about the present form of the Red Devils because they have failed to record winning which is consider important and very inconsistent in league matches.

Eric Ten Hag is a coach who is known for the hard trainings he makes for the team and he usually makes it hard for the players to have better performance.
But still, this coach had some mistakes and he hired players he didn't actually need and sold or released palyer he had to keep in the team and I'm talking about De Gea and Onana which was a mistake by this coach, and one reason for Manchester United to have bad performance.
 

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November 20, 2023, 03:35:42 PM
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Eric Ten Hag is a coach who is known for the hard trainings he makes for the team and he usually makes it hard for the players to have better performance.
But still, this coach had some mistakes and he hired players he didn't actually need and sold or released palyer he had to keep in the team and I'm talking about De Gea and Onana which was a mistake by this coach, and one reason for Manchester United to have bad performance.
 

But I think the difference between a good coach and a star coach is that a star coach can adapt to the conditions of new teams and other clubs. When you are the coach of Ajax Amsterdam, the coaching should be different from that being done at a top 10 club full of superstars. The handling of a team like Real Madrid is very different from the handling of a team like Ajax Amsterdam with a lot of talent. Expectations, requirements, intensity and many other things can differ. I get the feeling that ten Hag has a problem to understand that he is not the coach of Ajax Amsterdam anymore.

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November 20, 2023, 03:46:08 PM
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Eric Ten Hag is a coach who is known for the hard trainings he makes for the team and he usually makes it hard for the players to have better performance.
But still, this coach had some mistakes and he hired players he didn't actually need and sold or released palyer he had to keep in the team and I'm talking about De Gea and Onana which was a mistake by this coach, and one reason for Manchester United to have bad performance.
 

But I think the difference between a good coach and a star coach is that a star coach can adapt to the conditions of new teams and other clubs. When you are the coach of Ajax Amsterdam, the coaching should be different from that being done at a top 10 club full of superstars. The handling of a team like Real Madrid is very different from the handling of a team like Ajax Amsterdam with a lot of talent. Expectations, requirements, intensity and many other things can differ. I get the feeling that ten Hag has a problem to understand that he is not the coach of Ajax Amsterdam anymore.
It doesn't really matter the team you coach,a coach that has good sense of teaching,and learns from the right person can and we definitely do well.TenHag was managing Ajax and was doing well there,but he hasn't been able to do well at United.The problem with TenHag is because he doesn't listen,he doesn't want to take advice for other legends or players at the club,he is full of himself,and forget that no one is perfect.I think the best thing Man U can do is to remove him as their head coach.They need someone who can relate well with the players and make them the best version of themselves,instead of keeping a coach who is always angry at his players.

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November 20, 2023, 04:00:14 PM
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Eric Ten Hag is a coach who is known for the hard trainings he makes for the team and he usually makes it hard for the players to have better performance.
But still, this coach had some mistakes and he hired players he didn't actually need and sold or released palyer he had to keep in the team and I'm talking about De Gea and Onana which was a mistake by this coach, and one reason for Manchester United to have bad performance.
 

But I think the difference between a good coach and a star coach is that a star coach can adapt to the conditions of new teams and other clubs. When you are the coach of Ajax Amsterdam, the coaching should be different from that being done at a top 10 club full of superstars. The handling of a team like Real Madrid is very different from the handling of a team like Ajax Amsterdam with a lot of talent. Expectations, requirements, intensity and many other things can differ. I get the feeling that ten Hag has a problem to understand that he is not the coach of Ajax Amsterdam anymore.
It doesn't really matter the team you coach,a coach that has good sense of teaching,and learns from the right person can and we definitely do well.TenHag was managing Ajax and was doing well there,but he hasn't been able to do well at United.The problem with TenHag is because he doesn't listen,he doesn't want to take advice for other legends or players at the club,he is full of himself,and forget that no one is perfect.I think the best thing Man U can do is to remove him as their head coach.They need someone who can relate well with the players and make them the best version of themselves,instead of keeping a coach who is always angry at his players.

You took my post and put it into different wording. Of course it matters what type of club you are managing as a coach. It's a huge difference whether you are coaching this club full of world soccer players who are stars and won dozens of trophies or whether you have a team that is full of very young talents who are on the rise and still need tuning on the mental level as well. But yes ten Hag is busy with enforcing his own ideology and showing how powerful he is and that he can put any player on the bench regardless of the name. He is bound to fail very soon and that's what Manchester United needs.

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It would be very natural for me, if this time Galatasaray was slightly superior to Manchester United. After all, the match was played at Rams Park, Galatasaray's headquarters. Apart from that, there are many factors that make United considered to have only a slim chance of winning the match against Galatasaray. Actually, I haven't collected all the information, especially for United. whether the injuries to Hojlund, Eriksen, the status of Rashford, Antony and others. So in this post, I will only opine based on what I know.

The point is, United's conditions and situation are indeed unpleasant and have affected their performance so far. That's why there is little hope that United will progress from the group phase. It's no different if United targets finishing in 3rd place. with the scenario, they have tickets to the playoffs in the European League. The situation is not very conducive for Erik Ten Hag's squad. However, make no mistake if unexpected things can happen. United could perform optimally, even though the players they play are second tier, especially on the front line. and this could be a problem for Galatasaray. because, they have to consider if there are any surprises in the match on matchday five.
Moreover, in terms of betting odds, there is no significant difference, the point is that both teams will play as hard as possible to achieve the full points they hope to get. In the match, we will be presented with something interesting and I hope that these two teams will put on a very exciting match. Regarding the final result, we will find out later.
I will try to dispel many doubts about Manchester United's chances of progressing to the last 16. Manchester United and everyone there is currently really under high pressure to get their best form in the next two matches. They must try as hard as possible and must prioritize team achievements rather than playing for themselves, this unity will have a lot of positive impacts on their chances of qualifying.

Of course there are injury and suspension issues currently plaguing Manchester United in their preparations for the Galatasaray match, but I think Rasmus Hojlund will be ready to return in time. Rashford will be unavailable due to suspension, while Casemiro, Christian Eriksen, Tyrell Malacia, Luke Shaw, Jonny Evans and Lisandro Martinez will also be out for longer and will miss the game. Of course Galatasaray have home advantage when they host Manchester United, but they have to avoid mistakes because I think Manchester United might force their way out of jail.
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November 20, 2023, 05:27:15 PM
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Eric Ten Hag is a coach who is known for the hard trainings he makes for the team and he usually makes it hard for the players to have better performance.
But still, this coach had some mistakes and he hired players he didn't actually need and sold or released palyer he had to keep in the team and I'm talking about De Gea and Onana which was a mistake by this coach, and one reason for Manchester United to have bad performance.
 

But I think the difference between a good coach and a star coach is that a star coach can adapt to the conditions of new teams and other clubs. When you are the coach of Ajax Amsterdam, the coaching should be different from that being done at a top 10 club full of superstars. The handling of a team like Real Madrid is very different from the handling of a team like Ajax Amsterdam with a lot of talent. Expectations, requirements, intensity and many other things can differ. I get the feeling that ten Hag has a problem to understand that he is not the coach of Ajax Amsterdam anymore.

I'm sure Erik ten Hag is aware of this but unfortunately, maybe because Erik ten Hag doesn't have a good way of building harmonization within the team . Thus, the chemistry within the squad did not succeed in forming perfectly, this case at least had a negative impact on team performance as well as individual performance . But ya, after all Erik ten Hag still seems to have the effort needed, at least Manchester United is still in the top six in the Premier League standings. At least it still looks good too, because at the sametime, Manchester United does not have a good position in the Champions League and of course it will be a difficult pressure for the team.

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November 20, 2023, 05:41:34 PM
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Manchester City wants to achieve what Real Madrid has achieved, but I am sure that Guardiola will repeat on every press conference that it is impossible. But his goal is to win the Champions League a few more times.

I think this is true. Guardiola constantly mocks his achievements in the Champions League, some think that this is politeness and a good sense of humor, but in fact it is a clear realization that if we think globally, then Guardiola is a loser in the Champions League. He always had the best teams (perhaps even the best in history) but at the same time he won the Champions League only 3 times. Of course, he wants to get more titles in order to write his name in history more solidly.

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I think this is true. Guardiola constantly mocks his achievements in the Champions League, some think that this is politeness and a good sense of humor, but in fact it is a clear realization that if we think globally, then Guardiola is a loser in the Champions League. He always had the best teams (perhaps even the best in history) but at the same time he won the Champions League only 3 times. Of course, he wants to get more titles in order to write his name in history more solidly.
Regarding Pep Guardiola, it really depends on the perspective of the person judging. I like part of his sense of humor, but I also admit that he has failed to win more titles with his best team in the Champions League. He has won 2 titles with Barcelona and 1 title with Manchester City, but he failed to win it with Bayern Munich even though he was very successful in domestic competitions.

I like his style of play and the way he formulates the right strategy for his players. Pep Guardiola is one of the best coaches so far and it is not surprising that he will still fail in the Champions League because this competition is very tight. What I have to admit is, Real Madrid is the king of the Champions League to date.

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