Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income

[Cling18]

This post is basically a rant by op against scammers since he got scammed for a specific amount which only he is aware of by being gullible enough to believe that it's worth investing in winning strategies.

Anyone with a half-decent brain is aware of the fact that there is no long-term winning strategy. However, short-term winning strategies do exist.

There are tools you can use to win in the longterm
Risk management, not gambling when feeling strong emotions, bankroll management, and so on
But you are right, strategies to beat the house will usually work for a while and then stop working

There might be strategies and risk management that apply to winning but we shouldn't disregard the fact that our gambling fate will still rely on our luck. We can use specific strategies which we have proven effective but we can't use them to beat the house. There will always be two results in gambling and we can't always win all the time so we can't rely on our daily living on it.
There are gambling professionals that are continuously generating profit in gambling but that doesn't mean that they don't experience losses. It's just that they're skilled enough to handle their failures. When it comes to having gambling as a source of income, I don't think it can support us in the long run. We better have a stable job and just have gambling as a source of fun and entertainment. 

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[kk5526682]

Assume all guys here are gamblers. So, no people can have moral advantage than others. No Judge.


No matter what the reason is, you plan to gamble as a major income or only income source. This is super super hard. Sorry for you. But I have three personal opinions.

Opinion One, a few people called Professional Gambler take gambling as a job for a living. These people have the skills to make that happen. My scheme is working on that. But it looks like so scam to many dudes, so you judge it on your own risk.

Opinion Two, there is no sure win methods or 100% profit strategy in gambling. If someone claim that, I will just go away because I won't definitely buy that. You believe you pay. I don't believe, just leave. Keep life simple. No judge to the buyer or seller. We are not the World Cop like Uncle Sam.

Opinion Three, this is the most important one. YOU. No one put a gun on your head to push you to gamble. You can do anything if you can control yourself by supreme rules. Like the stop-loss, stop-win, gamble hours per day......The key is self-control. Comparing the power of self-control, others are unimportant. Some people success, then they can be called professional gambler.

After gambling soooo many years, sky city Auckland, the star Sydney, crown Melbourne, nationalcasino.com, stake.com platinum5 (sylviegreta), wolfbet.com......still struggle hard to become a professional gambler......This is the inmost thing on yourself......Others are the camouflage of the essence of gambling. If these opinions make you find the right direction, I will be super happy.


Thanks for reading.


Scammers are everywhere, please think deep and seriously before doing anything.

Probably opinion two right? there's no actual way that you could always win on gambling there will always be a time that you're going to lose right? so that's gonna be a problem for sure if you're going to make it as a main source of your income because there are days that you're not going to earn money but the opposite you're going to lose. Surely it's going to be a problem in the long run and without a huge amount of cash that you could use as leverage there's no way you could sustain that, plus there is going to be a huge risk of losing everything every time you gamble.

It's a red flag if someone is claiming that it is possible for sure, probably for sure professional gamblers I doubt that they do gambling daily. I would say that gambling is just for entertainment so just don't make it a main source of income, probably you could bet a huge amount but still do it occasionally since you might win or lose either.

Your words can help a lot for new guys in gambling if they listen to you. Like Adin Ross. This kid has realy good resources and a lot of money. He wants to win big like Trainwreck. There will be a big diaster waiting for Adin. Adin is so new and young here. Even if he streams for stake. He will fall in gambling trap for sure. Train is a honest man. He always say 'do not gamble. you will lose' this kind of words to his viewers. This is good.

[kk5526682]

This post is basically a rant by op against scammers since he got scammed for a specific amount which only he is aware of by being gullible enough to believe that it's worth investing in winning strategies.

Anyone with a half-decent brain is aware of the fact that there is no long-term winning strategy. However, short-term winning strategies do exist.

There are tools you can use to win in the longterm
Risk management, not gambling when feeling strong emotions, bankroll management, and so on
But you are right, strategies to beat the house will usually work for a while and then stop working

There might be strategies and risk management that apply to winning but we shouldn't disregard the fact that our gambling fate will still rely on our luck. We can use specific strategies which we have proven effective but we can't use them to beat the house. There will always be two results in gambling and we can't always win all the time so we can't rely on our daily living on it.
There are gambling professionals that are continuously generating profit in gambling but that doesn't mean that they don't experience losses. It's just that they're skilled enough to handle their failures. When it comes to having gambling as a source of income, I don't think it can support us in the long run. We better have a stable job and just have gambling as a source of fun and entertainment. 

Clear and loud brother. I hope every gamblers can hear and follow your words. If there is any chance for any people can make a stable source of income in any other fields, quit gambling instantly. No doubt and hesitate please.

[adzino]

I don't understand how some people see gambling as a potential income source. How could someone rely on gambling, when gambling itself is filled with randomness and uncertainty. Its like you being able to pay the bills also becomes an uncertainty in your life. Relying on it as a primary income source is highly risky and unstable, unless you are working as an affiliate and you refer others to gamble. You earn comission from that, and it might be good source of income for you, but still there is no guarantee that you will be earning forever. People should stop considering gambling as a job through which they can earn money and should see it as a form of "paid" entertainment.

[kk5526682]

I don't understand how some people see gambling as a potential income source. How could someone rely on gambling, when gambling itself is filled with randomness and uncertainty. Its like you being able to pay the bills also becomes an uncertainty in your life. Relying on it as a primary income source is highly risky and unstable, unless you are working as an affiliate and you refer others to gamble. You earn comission from that, and it might be good source of income for you, but still there is no guarantee that you will be earning forever. People should stop considering gambling as a job through which they can earn money and should see it as a form of "paid" entertainment.

Trying to avoid any strategies discussion or topics here becauce they are nothing comparing self-control. People gamble as a potential income source are very easy to understand because people have weakness on this. All people want to pay less to get more. Please forgive my foolish, I am assuming your point is 'don't understand how people can success to take gambling as a income source'. This is the core point of this post. My three opinions can display if you read it clearly. Read all posts in four pages, maybe you can find out your own answer.

[Rabata]

Opinion One, a few people called Professional Gambler take gambling as a job for a living. These people have the skills to make that happen. My scheme is working on that. But it looks like so scam to many dudes, so you judge it on your own risk.

Opinion Two, there is no sure win methods or 100% profit strategy in gambling. If someone claim that, I will just go away because I won't definitely buy that. You believe you pay. I don't believe, just leave. Keep life simple. No judge to the buyer or seller. We are not the World Cop like Uncle Sam.

Opinion Three, this is the most important one. YOU. No one put a gun on your head to push you to gamble. You can do anything if you can control yourself by supreme rules. Like the stop-loss, stop-win, gamble hours per day......The key is self-control. Comparing the power of self-control, others are unimportant. Some people success, then they can be called professional gambler.

There is no scope to ‍say against anyone's opinion because everyone is right from their perspective. But in general I think gambling should never be considered as a source of income. Even those who are experienced cannot guarantee or assure gambling as it is completely controlled by luck.
Moreover, there is no way to avoid the issue of match fixing in sports betting. No matter how experienced a gambler is there, he has to accept defeat. There will be wins and losses so it should not be envisioned as a specific source of income.

[iv4n]

We can talk about gambling in general as a significant income. Still, we can talk about professional poker players and sports bettors since in these two some people win most of the time, they have good knowledge about the games themselves, good reading/analytic skills, and a nice bankroll for playing. In these two some people can make something more, but even that will always depend on luck as well... we all have bad days and red streaks. But some people know how to chill and take a break, or even better to say some people have good self-control and some goal they follow.

[bittraffic]

We can talk about gambling in general as a significant income. Still, we can talk about professional poker players and sports bettors since in these two some people win most of the time, they have good knowledge about the games themselves, good reading/analytic skills, and a nice bankroll for playing. In these two some people can make something more, but even that will always depend on luck as well... we all have bad days and red streaks. But some people know how to chill and take a break, or even better to say some people have good self-control and some goal they follow.

Professional poker players and the pros that OP mentioned who can make a living out of his game. We saw different poker tournaments and some of them waste hundreds of thousands when they fold. But the loss of one is also the gain of the other.  Some of them even reach up to millions just to bluff. Them doing all these must be a success.

For me, I could say I'm still having success though I'm not a big spender in sports betting, I'm able to get around on my own in sports.

[abel1337]

We can talk about gambling in general as a significant income. Still, we can talk about professional poker players and sports bettors since in these two some people win most of the time, they have good knowledge about the games themselves, good reading/analytic skills, and a nice bankroll for playing. In these two some people can make something more, but even that will always depend on luck as well... we all have bad days and red streaks. But some people know how to chill and take a break, or even better to say some people have good self-control and some goal they follow.

Professional poker players and the pros that OP mentioned who can make a living out of his game. We saw different poker tournaments and some of them waste hundreds of thousands when they fold. But the loss of one is also the gain of the other.  Some of them even reach up to millions just to bluff. Them doing all these must be a success.

For me, I could say I'm still having success though I'm not a big spender in sports betting, I'm able to get around on my own in sports.

Those professional gamblers know how the mechanics of poker works and they absolutely know that bluffing is a very risky mechanic that only works on doing high stake plays like betting millions or all in. The higher your bet are shows how confident you are on your card and they know that everything they do is being calculated by their oponents. Bluffing don't work everytime especially if you keeps doing it everytime and you had a bust on bluffing. Them doing this knows how things will go if their bluff gets successful. It's also an ego thing if you defeat someone with a bluff and rising your ego with that risky move can be considered a success for someone especially if you defeated a remarkable player.

[noormcs5]

After gambling soooo many years, sky city Auckland, the star Sydney, crown Melbourne, nationalcasino.com, stake.com platinum5 (sylviegreta), wolfbet.com......still struggle hard to become a professional gambler......This is the inmost thing on yourself......Others are the camouflage of the essence of gambling. If these opinions make you find the right direction, I will be super happy.

What have you concluded after being in gambling industry for this long and having a good gambling experience on multiple platforms ?

If you ask me, gambling is never been a source of income for me, it can never be for anyone. The main reason for this is that the experience does not count in gambling. No matter you are gambling first time or the 100th time, the chances and probabilities of winnings will be same and it all comes down to the luck.

[piebeyb]

I don't understand how some people see gambling as a potential income source. How could someone rely on gambling, when gambling itself is filled with randomness and uncertainty. Its like you being able to pay the bills also becomes an uncertainty in your life. Relying on it as a primary income source is highly risky and unstable, unless you are working as an affiliate and you refer others to gamble. You earn comission from that, and it might be good source of income for you, but still there is no guarantee that you will be earning forever. People should stop considering gambling as a job through which they can earn money and should see it as a form of "paid" entertainment.

If there is someone who thinks that gambling as a source of income means that casino advertising and marketing has succeeded in instilling the mindset in the minds of gamblers to want to play and continue gambling and make lots of money, for example first deposit bonuses or attractive advertising ads with the lure of big prizes, that's why many casinos have been successful with their marketing attracting many new gamblers to play.

So it's not strange if people think of playing gambling as a source of income where they think that by gambling it will make you rich faster and get money fast without having to work, but instead what you get is that the longer you play gambling and it's out of control, the poorer you will be and you will lose a lot. Money. people have to change the mindset that gambling is not a way to get rich quick or a source of income, work hard or become a businessman will make you richer than gambling.

[yahoo62278]

This post is basically a rant by op against scammers since he got scammed for a specific amount which only he is aware of by being gullible enough to believe that it's worth investing in winning strategies.

Anyone with a half-decent brain is aware of the fact that there is no long-term winning strategy. However, short-term winning strategies do exist.

There are tools you can use to win in the longterm
Risk management, not gambling when feeling strong emotions, bankroll management and so on
But you are right, strategies to beat the house will usually work for a while and then stop working

I prefer to use simple word for easy understanding. Self-control. That's it. Gamblers, real gamblers, those kind of people gamble food money can be called this name. I am sure most of them have the methods can win money from casino. Very sure. 98% sure. The real problem of them is cannot control self. They don't play stop-loss, stop-win orders well. Maybe some also have time management problem. When you play longer enough like me, you will get a feeling on win or lose at the moment. This is strange. But this is real. When I got $1000 in my pocket with good mood and no pressure on winning big or chasing lose, I will win money in most of times. 50 bucks or 150 bucks maybe. But, when I decide to chase lose, most of time I got bad feeling on that.

The simple truth in gambling is if you never take big risks, you will never win big money. These people you talk about who are risking their food money are risking hamburger money to eat steaks. There is no guaranteed method to win 98% of the time, but most like to think there is.

[Jody.Drummer]

I don't understand how some people see gambling as a potential income source. How could someone rely on gambling, when gambling itself is filled with randomness and uncertainty. Its like you being able to pay the bills also becomes an uncertainty in your life. Relying on it as a primary income source is highly risky and unstable, unless you are working as an affiliate and you refer others to gamble. You earn comission from that, and it might be good source of income for you, but still there is no guarantee that you will be earning forever. People should stop considering gambling as a job through which they can earn money and should see it as a form of "paid" entertainment.

If there is someone who thinks that gambling as a source of income means that casino advertising and marketing has succeeded in instilling the mindset in the minds of gamblers to want to play and continue gambling and make lots of money, for example first deposit bonuses or attractive advertising ads with the lure of big prizes, that's why many casinos have been successful with their marketing attracting many new gamblers to play.

So it's not strange if people think of playing gambling as a source of income where they think that by gambling it will make you rich faster and get money fast without having to work, but instead what you get is that the longer you play gambling and it's out of control, the poorer you will be and you will lose a lot. Money. people have to change the mindset that gambling is not a way to get rich quick or a source of income, work hard or become a businessman will make you richer than gambling.

I agree with you that this is inseparable from advertisements which then form in their subconscious that gambling has the potential to be used as a source of income.
I will talk about my experience, indeed when I first got to know gambling I also thought that this was a good place, but when I thought logically I was able to cancel my thoughts at the beginning, that's what made me not think about it until now. the same as when you first got to know gambling. I think many have had the same experience as mine, that is, at first they thought that way.
Actually gambling can make us rich quickly, as long as we are one of the very lucky people out of the many gamblers, but that's not as fast as how gambling can make us a financial mess. 

[BitcoinPanther]

Gambling have a simple rule. Gamble as long as you are having fun.

It's an entertainment. You pay to be entertained. But Things become difficult when a gambler no longer have the fun but starts chasing their losses. Houses are here for business. They are profiting when you are having fun, they are also profiting when you are chasing your losses. So, when people try to make gambling as their major income source they are just risking their own health, family members health, financial health. Very soon everything will be lost and they will find themselves homeless.

Homeless is the major way for people to think more about self-control. For those people who have nothing but only debt, there is no hope anyway.

As long as a person live, there is always hope since he can still work it out to make things better.  But of course it would be difficult with only debt in hand, the person starts with negative statistics but I believe with discipline and perseverance to earn money to pay for his debt, he will eventually recover.

Only two choices, improve your self-control for everything or just die. Gamble is only the way can acceptable and fair for some people in this world. Think it deep brother. If you still have money in your pocket right now, quit.

If a person wanted to better himself, the choice is simple, self control and work hard, if he still wanted to gambling, then he can just allocate money that is not compromised.  But I would suggest that the person should give himself a break and temporarily stop gambling until he paid all his debt.

[decodx]

My three opinions can display if you read it clearly. Read all posts in four pages, maybe you can find out your own answer.

It would be much more effective if you could explain your point a little more clearly so that we don't have to play guessing games here. I have read your post very carefully, and I can't help but wonder what the whole point is.

At one point, you mentioned your scheme to make gambling a permanent source of income. Then, you stated that there is no 100% surefire method to win in gambling (which I personally agree with). Afterward, you discuss topics such as control, scammers, your years of experience in gambling... which adds to the confusion and makes it difficult to grasp the overall message you're trying to convey.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

This is classic, and I love the OPs narration in all his opinions, personally, I've always said to myself that the day I start to Imagine myself become a professional gambler, that day, I will start working and making preparations to launch my own online casino, this is because I personally believe that a person who does not have a good source of income likely will never become a gambling professional, gambling professional sounds like those who become it win much more than they lose, but sincerely, I do not think so, I think the professional there simply means, they keep gambling in huge sums no matter how much they lose, simply because they have other streams of income which pays them back for all the losses, this is why it is practically and technically impossible for anyone with a multiple sources of income to become a professional in gambling.

[Johnyz]

I don't understand how some people see gambling as a potential income source. How could someone rely on gambling, when gambling itself is filled with randomness and uncertainty. Its like you being able to pay the bills also becomes an uncertainty in your life. Relying on it as a primary income source is highly risky and unstable, unless you are working as an affiliate and you refer others to gamble. You earn comission from that, and it might be good source of income for you, but still there is no guarantee that you will be earning forever. People should stop considering gambling as a job through which they can earn money and should see it as a form of "paid" entertainment.

They are being mislead by the adds of the gambling site and thought the process is easy at all especially on winning the reward. Well, they can easily realize it when they already started losing the money though some are still not listening and they still continue to gamble with a hope of making fixed profit. The golden rule here is to be more responsible and not to expect that much in gambling, luck is still the big reason why you are winning and that is something you can’t have always.

[Minecache]

I don't understand how some people see gambling as a potential income source. How could someone rely on gambling, when gambling itself is filled with randomness and uncertainty. Its like you being able to pay the bills also becomes an uncertainty in your life. Relying on it as a primary income source is highly risky and unstable, unless you are working as an affiliate and you refer others to gamble. You earn comission from that, and it might be good source of income for you, but still there is no guarantee that you will be earning forever. People should stop considering gambling as a job through which they can earn money and should see it as a form of "paid" entertainment.

They are being mislead by the adds of the gambling site and thought the process is easy at all especially on winning the reward. Well, they can easily realize it when they already started losing the money though some are still not listening and they still continue to gamble with a hope of making fixed profit. The golden rule here is to be more responsible and not to expect that much in gambling, luck is still the big reason why you are winning and that is something you can’t have always.

Yes, it is common for gambling advertisements to highlight the potential rewards and downplay the risks and uncertainties involved. Consequently, individuals may believe that making a profit and winning are easy and guaranteed. People often realize the reality of their situation once they start gambling and experience losses, as you mentioned.

Gambling should be approached responsibly and with realistic expectations. In gambling, luck plays a significant role, and it cannot be relied upon consistently. Usually, gambling games have odds in favor of the casino, as they are based on chance. Occasionally, there may be wins, but long-term results are more likely to be losses. So, take it as fun, not income source..

[Lanatsa]

I never intended to be a professional gambler nor reach the pinnacle of VIP rank.  I only gamble to entertain myself and I cannot deny that with that entertainment is the hope to win huge but regardless, whatever the outcome of my session is I make sure that I accept it without any remorse.

There are times when we are unable to control ourselves into betting all our funds but to lessen the impact of our gambling to our finance, we should make sure that we only gamble with free money, beyond that will become a problem.

Since gambling result is random we should know that there is no way that gambling can be a source of steady income unless you are the owner of the platform.  Never chase losses because if we do, losses will chase us in the form of problems and pressure.  We gamble to be entertained not get frustrated.  If the game is too frustrating for us we can always take a break and come back when the stress and frustration subsided.

Im also with this kind of idea on which not all would really be having that kind of approach or wishes in life on becoming a professional gambler which this do mostly fall into the category of doing sports bet or playing up some poker or other card games on which you could potentially make yourself to be one but in speaking about casino games then it would really be an another story. Pushing yourself to be come one would really be just bringing up a disaster towards your finances.This is why you should really be that careful on which path you would be choosing or taking on.

Gambling is for fun and never ever make yourself consider on trying out to believe on something that you could really make yourself that sustainable for long term. This isnt something that you could really be
able to attain and if you do have this kind of desperation in mind on acquiring such state then it would really be creating that kind of determination which would be leading into more losses and this
is something that you should really be able to avoid. Success or fail? You wouldn't  really be minding that much if you dont really care at all about it because if you do and too mindful
then you would really be losing the real essence of gambling in the first place.

[goaldigger]

I don't understand how some people see gambling as a potential income source. How could someone rely on gambling, when gambling itself is filled with randomness and uncertainty. Its like you being able to pay the bills also becomes an uncertainty in your life. Relying on it as a primary income source is highly risky and unstable, unless you are working as an affiliate and you refer others to gamble. You earn comission from that, and it might be good source of income for you, but still there is no guarantee that you will be earning forever. People should stop considering gambling as a job through which they can earn money and should see it as a form of "paid" entertainment.

They are being mislead by the adds of the gambling site and thought the process is easy at all especially on winning the reward. Well, they can easily realize it when they already started losing the money though some are still not listening and they still continue to gamble with a hope of making fixed profit. The golden rule here is to be more responsible and not to expect that much in gambling, luck is still the big reason why you are winning and that is something you can’t have always.

Definitely a very effective marketing strategy, and you could lose a lot of money if you are being deceived by such promotions. You’ll fail if you think gambling as your source of income because its not, not unless you’re rich enough to play big in casinos and still on a good financial status even if you already lose a lot of money. Don’t treat gambling as your source of income especially if you are still struggling with your finances.