The new U.S.-China agreement is a "forced friendship. What awaits the world ?

[DrBeer]

Today the world heard:  "The U.S. does not support Taiwan's independence and has no intention of engaging in conflict with China."

U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said this during a meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing.

Blinken also stressed that the United States does not seek a cold war and has no plans to change the Chinese system. In turn, Xi Jinping said that China respects U.S. interests and will not challenge Washington.

The Chinese leader added that the United States should also respect China's position and not harm its legitimate rights and interests. Xi Jinping expressed hope that the U.S. will take a rational and pragmatic position on China.

What does this mean? Even yesterday there was a very serious confrontation around Taiwan, today it is "peace, friendship, respect".
There are two questions:
1. Which country has become a bargaining chip?
2. What does the world expect in terms of economics ?
3. Joke question: Don't you think that the capital of the country of the "bargaining chip" begins with the letter "M" ?

[be.open]

I think China took Blinken's current visit as a sign of US weakness, which it actually is. The United States realized that it was not possible to frighten China with large-scale exercises and that the American military-industrial complex could not pull a proxy war on two fronts. You have to bend and flirt, but without much success - Blinken was received much worse in China than Bill Gates.

[Marvell1]

After so many years, the US used Taiwan as a chess piece to oppose China, and I was surprised by this news. But I don't think they are bargaining with each other, and there will be another pawn in place. Instead, why don't we think in a different way? If the US continues to wage war with China on all fronts, the US will not benefit, the one who suffers the most is no longer China.
As for Taiwan, a distant water cannot put out the fire near it, whether the US continues to support Taiwan or not, it can't be stopped if China really wants to unify Taiwan. Even the US and EU are facing many difficulties in the Ukraine battlefield, so I don't think China will be afraid of the US to use anything to bargain.

[avikz]

This is a eyewash. A pure and white lie. The matter of fact is that the rest of the world do not trust either US or China. Both are warmongers and invasive in nature. So if both of these countries are planning for a forced friendship, probably that's good for peace. But I don't see that happening. Taiwan will remain as a burning issue here and the equation can change anytime.

So I don't see any reason to become overjoyed about their friendship. Change is the only constant and we will see changes in this equation.

[naira]

What does this mean? Even yesterday there was a very serious confrontation around Taiwan, today it is "peace, friendship, respect".
There are two questions:
1. Which country has become a bargaining chip?
2. What does the world expect in terms of economics ?
3. Joke question: Don't you think that the capital of the country of the "bargaining chip" begins with the letter "M" ?

Does not want war but America is a country with a history of war engagements everywhere, funding, arms sales, etc. Am I exaggerating enough about it? now is a new era called the cold war, the same people behind it are trying to bring down other countries economies so that their own country's economy remains standing with a financial system that controls all other countries finances. I agree with the forced friendship title context because that's what happens when America wants something to control. Under Biden's leadership, the United States issued more inconsistent statements, for example yesterday they declared themselves competitors and the next day they declared friendship.

Since when has Xi Jinping bowed to the US when it comes to economic development? well, there's a kind of fear inside the US white house environment. The United States is too afraid of China economic revival, even being challenged openly by the BRICS Alliance with the declaration of de-dollarization. The US response doesn't talk too much because it realizes that the country's economy is on the precipice which is at stake since it has defaulted on debt payments.

[Yogee]

US not supporting Taiwan's independence has always been their position on paper but don't listen to what they say and look at what they do. It's laughable that they claim they don't want conflict but they're pushing for it. US have been preparing in case China makes a move on Taiwan by increasing their military presence in Asia. I read somewhere that NATO is also making a move by building a base in Japan. All these suggests that they are trying to make the same strategy they did against Russia.

[bittraffic]

This is a eyewash. A pure and white lie. The matter of fact is that the rest of the world do not trust either US or China. Both are warmongers and invasive in nature. So if both of these countries are planning for a forced friendship, probably that's good for peace. But I don't see that happening. Taiwan will remain as a burning issue here and the equation can change anytime.

So I don't see any reason to become overjoyed about their friendship. Change is the only constant and we will see changes in this equation.

None of them sees it as friendship. They all wear the front appearance but certainly, they look after the future outcome if they continue the military drills all around. Both will still play the same game but all these friendship acts will be accepted after all they will be cooperating in building economic growth.

US can not fight 2 wars at the same time and wars need Money. I don't see the end of the war in Ukraine still and they should proceed to talking about ending the Ukraine war while they are peace.

[Hispo]

It would take it as a signal from the United States about their willingness to cool down the tensions which have been going on lately, with the beginning of the war in Ukraine and the alledged support China is giving to the Kremlin.

In the end, both China and USA have such a tight economical relationship that it would be harmful for both of them if the political tensions affected the exportations and importations of all kinds of goods.

Regardless what the USA says, I would bet they will continue to support Taiwan and harden their military bases and positions in Asia. Unless Joe Biden is such a proChinese as the far right says and he is okey with Taiwan losing its status as independent nation.

[topbitcoin]

When viewed from an economic standpoint, America must indeed take a position that can harm them in international cooperation, America must acknowledge China's strength today, they must always be wary of China because today's China is a very difficult opponent to defeat, and the cold war that So far America has been running with China, it has not had a good impact on the economy, in fact America has seemed to be slapped back with their bad condition today.
If America imposes its will and interferes with Taiwan's problems continuously, it is very likely that America will not gain from this dispute.
Choosing to clarify relations in China is the safest move for America right now.

[Kakmakr]

The US government know that there are a shift in the power from the West to the East (economically and military power) ....and they also know that they cannot afford a war against China, because it will bankrupt them.

The BRICS countries are a formidable force, if you look at their combined military power and their economic transition. If China was much smaller, then the US would have crushed them like a bug.... but it's not going to be that easy. (Nobody can afford a WWIII... it will destroy the world) 

[AbuBhakar]

US not supporting Taiwan's independence has always been their position on paper but don't listen to what they say and look at what they do. It's laughable that they claim they don't want conflict but they're pushing for it. US have been preparing in case China makes a move on Taiwan by increasing their military presence in Asia. I read somewhere that NATO is also making a move by building a base in Japan. All these suggests that they are trying to make the same strategy they did against Russia.

I believe that’s their previous position prior to this current news. Perhaps they are already tapping again on China friendship to boost their dying economy due to inflation since they can’t afford a war because they are not that super power anymore. This is good for the world but very bad news for Taiwan independence because China will surely use this opportunity to oppressed this small piece of land.

US already sold them in exchange for economic gain from China.

[South Park]

When viewed from an economic standpoint, America must indeed take a position that can harm them in international cooperation, America must acknowledge China's strength today, they must always be wary of China because today's China is a very difficult opponent to defeat, and the cold war that So far America has been running with China, it has not had a good impact on the economy, in fact America has seemed to be slapped back with their bad condition today.
If America imposes its will and interferes with Taiwan's problems continuously, it is very likely that America will not gain from this dispute.
Choosing to clarify relations in China is the safest move for America right now.

I see it in the same way, the cold war approach that was taken against the USSR could work back then because even if the USSR was a super power in terms of military power, it never had a strong economy, while at the time the US had not only the strongest economy at the time but probably the strongest we have ever seen, so they could take a long term approach to beating the USSR, but against China this is not possible, they have a good economy while the US is at its weakest, and in addition they are already supporting Ukraine against Russia, so supporting another armed conflict seems to be too much for the US economy.

[livingfree]

What could have been the reason for saying that US doesn't support Taiwan's independence? Hmmm....

There could be a change of their minds or this is just another tactic to make it look like they're weak against the Chinese forces that are already rotating around the waters and areas of Taiwan?

Well, politics is certainly predictable when you're seeing the events and if this is a real friendship for US-China then that's much better. These only two powers are even the ones that are trying to reach heights and showing how powerful they are.

But I don't think one will subject to one another and if China says that US shouldn't touch what they're touching and yet the US keeps on triggering them with military exercises, that shows how BS they are for the eyes of China.

3. Joke question: Don't you think that the capital of the country of the "bargaining chip" begins with the letter "M" ?

I have no idea on this, what's M then?

[Fortify]

Today the world heard:  "The U.S. does not support Taiwan's independence and has no intention of engaging in conflict with China."

U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken said this during a meeting with Chinese leader Xi Jinping in Beijing.

Blinken also stressed that the United States does not seek a cold war and has no plans to change the Chinese system. In turn, Xi Jinping said that China respects U.S. interests and will not challenge Washington.

The Chinese leader added that the United States should also respect China's position and not harm its legitimate rights and interests. Xi Jinping expressed hope that the U.S. will take a rational and pragmatic position on China.

What does this mean? Even yesterday there was a very serious confrontation around Taiwan, today it is "peace, friendship, respect".
There are two questions:
1. Which country has become a bargaining chip?
2. What does the world expect in terms of economics ?
3. Joke question: Don't you think that the capital of the country of the "bargaining chip" begins with the letter "M" ?

That's what you heard and the twisted agenda you want to push. America and China need each other, they both get stronger by working together so it's only unhinged leadership that will seriously damage it. Unfortunately China does not rule by fairness and openness - but by brute and incompetent force. It would be disastrous for China to try to take Taiwan and the world would likely wake up to the danger they pose, even worse than Russia, if such actions went ahead. China really screwed up Hong Kong after taking over, crippling it as a powerful financial hub, and this was their chance to prove that they were good leaders.

[Flexystar]

USA is definitely one mysterious country that no one would ever understand. First they send out their secretary to visit the Taiwan when China threaten to have Air strikes on Taiwan. This was done to show the support against any attacks from China and to showcase the gesture of friendship with Taiwan. Now same US is going further and having hand shakes with China to have peaceful treaty. It’s funny. Or may be it looks like US also forgot about the spy balloon that was sent over to them. What is hard to understand for such highly advance and modern country? Have the China threaten US government in some way and this is what we seeing right now. Have they planted a even bigger biological attack than what we had during pandemic?

[electronicash]

3. Joke question: Don't you think that the capital of the country of the "bargaining chip" begins with the letter "M" ?

I have no idea on this, what's M then?

M for Manure!

there was nothing achieved in their meeting by the way. just because they were shaking hands in the photos, doesn't mean something is solved. the situation doesn't change. Xi doesn't even want to see Blinken.  truth is that China wants the US to honor the one-China policy and Taiwan is part of China. as long as this is not honored, nothing is achieved in this meeting.

[livingfree]

3. Joke question: Don't you think that the capital of the country of the "bargaining chip" begins with the letter "M" ?

I have no idea on this, what's M then?

M for Manure!

For real? didn't know about that. 

there was nothing achieved in their meeting by the way. just because they were shaking hands in the photos, doesn't mean something is solved. the situation doesn't change. Xi doesn't even want to see Blinken.  truth is that China wants the US to honor the one-China policy and Taiwan is part of China. as long as this is not honored, nothing is achieved in this meeting.

What a coincidence that I've seen an old video of Trump meeting up Kim Jong-Un on North and South Korea border. I guess it truly depends on the leader and China won't allow any country to bully them as they want to be known as the tough guy and they're the only one that can bully.

It's like that no one intervenes with anything that interests them.

[Argoo]

What could have been the reason for saying that US doesn't support Taiwan's independence? Hmmm....

There could be a change of their minds or this is just another tactic to make it look like they're weak against the Chinese forces that are already rotating around the waters and areas of Taiwan?

Well, politics is certainly predictable when you're seeing the events and if this is a real friendship for US-China then that's much better. These only two powers are even the ones that are trying to reach heights and showing how powerful they are.

But I don't think one will subject to one another and if China says that US shouldn't touch what they're touching and yet the US keeps on triggering them with military exercises, that shows how BS they are for the eyes of China.

3. Joke question: Don't you think that the capital of the country of the "bargaining chip" begins with the letter "M" ?

I have no idea on this, what's M then?

If the US is now saying that it does not support Taiwan independence, then this is indeed a very interesting turn in US-China relations. The issue of Taiwan brought these countries closer to a serious war. In the United States, the outcome of a military clash between these states was simulated on a computer, and it turned out that the United States was winning the war, but by a very small margin. We can say that both states as a result of the war between themselves will be drained of blood.

So far, this is a reasonable move on the part of the United States to push back the threat of World War III. And this is not about weakness, as some here believe. The policy between the two big states should be wise, but the situation towards Taiwan may change in the future.

Answering a "joking question" I agree that the capital of a country beginning with the letter "M", that is, Moscow can already be a bargaining chip here. It is much more profitable for China to stay closer to the US and the EU than to Russia. Part of the territory of Russia, which there has long been considered Chinese, because it previously belonged to China, China will still take away from the weakening Russia as a result of its war with Ukraine. At the same time, if China does not openly support Russia in this war, then Russia will lose it relatively quickly.

[Alpha Marine]

What could have been the reason for saying that US doesn't support Taiwan's independence? Hmmm....

There could be a change of their minds or this is just another tactic to make it look like they're weak against the Chinese forces that are already rotating around the waters and areas of Taiwan?

Well, politics is certainly predictable when you're seeing the events and if this is a real friendship for US-China then that's much better. These only two powers are even the ones that are trying to reach heights and showing how powerful they are.

One thing I know is that in stuff like this, things are never as they seem. These things are way deeper than we can understand because we don't have all the facts on our table. The US and China might have struck a deal and we wouldn't know. They may just be doing it to appear cool on paper and we wouldn't know. I don't want to sound like I love conspiracy theories but there's always an underground reason for things like this in international politics.

One thing I hate so much is people trying to paint China as a saint in the story. It's so annoying it gets funny at a point. Both the US and China are exactly the same people. They may have different ways of achieving a goal but they both have the same goal; that is making their country and position superior.
They never do anything without their own interest first.

[Die_empty]

US not supporting Taiwan's independence has always been their position on paper but don't listen to what they say and look at what they do. It's laughable that they claim they don't want conflict but they're pushing for it. US have been preparing in case China makes a move on Taiwan by increasing their military presence in Asia. I read somewhere that NATO is also making a move by building a base in Japan. All these suggests that they are trying to make the same strategy they did against Russia.

The US has vowed to protect Taiwan from Chinese invasion. Washington is willing to war against China a forcefully wants to take over the country.  I see the visit of U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken to China as diplomatic formalities. China and the US are political, economic, and military competitors and competitors will always oppose each other. Both nations have an interest in Taiwan. Taiwan will always be a vassal state of China and America is not proposing its independence from China but the Island's autonomy. So Blinken was correct when he said that the US is not seeking Taiwan's independence.

America might not be able to fight two proxy wars. China is a major beneficiary in the war between Russia and Ukraine. China enjoys high discounts for buying Russian products. China have also seen many consequences of war and might be scared that Taiwan can also receive the same support Ukraine is receiving. I know China and the US are core rivals but from both country's moves and comments, I don't think they want war. The economic consequences of the current war in Ukraine are enormous, the world will suffer recession if another war breaks out.