⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[jakdanyel]

We are going to watch an even younger Arsenal next season in the Premier League and Champions League both. Because they have sold Xhaka to Leverkusen and brought players like Havertz, Rice and Timber so far. Honestly I hope they sign an experienced player like Xhaka too this summer. He was the captain of the team as well and it is good to have an experienced leader in the team.

But for now Arsenal are just targeting young and promising players to bring here. Arsenal's vision has been the same for so many years. It is of course a good policy in terms of helping promising players shine and increase their values a lot. Arsenal can make a lot of profit in case they sell them just as Dortmund and Ajax have the same policy.

However Arteta looks really ambitious for achievements too. To be able to achieve bigger things they should sign a player who can be a good leader for the young players.

[Sakanwa]

Arsenal was doing so many crazy things in the current transfer season. I meant arsenal has been buying some new players with very high fees like rice, timber or even havertz from chelsea. I think that this strategy makes sense to be implemented.



Havetz will be going back to old position. There will be lots of rotations that arsenal can use. Jorginho may not be used as starting line up. Timber was replacing white's position.

I have seen arteta used some strategies during last season.

4-3-3, 4-1-41 or even 4-2-3-1.

Arteta may also able to form a new strategy with new compositions. I think that kai and rice gave arteta so many options.

I love this shape, but I really do hope thru blend in quickly and build chemistry before the start of the new season. Mikel Arteta has got work to do with Ramsdale, I don't really like the way he's always launching the ball into the air. LoL. They should learn to build from the back with confidence. ( Ohh Gosh, I envy Brighton a whole lot )
The back four looks solid, Ben White can come in as a substitute, Timber is a big name I want to see him settling in fast. And when they build, it'll be three man defense with Zinchenko joining to support Declan Rice in midfied.

With it, Arsenal would attack more and score more goals, I don't know how energetic Martinelli might be, I would also love to see Trossad starting ahead of him. He does means business whenever he's attacking. Interesting team they have, they'll cook next season.

Rice and Timber are great transfers. Kai Havertz is also a good piece too, depending on how they use him. If he is going to play 10 numbers with Odegaard, there is no need. Emile Smith Rowe is also great. There is also Fabio Vieira. I think they should not keep useless players(sorry) like Nketiah or Holding in the team. Other than that, if they keep Trusty and Balogun in the team, I think they will be good transfers. I do not trust Zinchenko at all. He plays well in 2 games and in the 3rd game he screw things up. He can be used in midfield and left-back, but if they put a man in the left-back Cancelo level, we will watch a contender team again this year as well.

Arsenal is going to have a great season ahead considering the names that are coming in,and the positions they are filling.They have brought in three so far, Zinchenko will be pairing with Tierney,Tomiyasou will pair with Timber,Saliba and White,while Gabriel will pair with Kiwior.And then we move to the midfield where there will be so much rotation,We have Odegard,which cannot be replaced,Rice, Vierra,Smith Rowe, Partey, Jorginho, and Harvetz.I don't know why I don't feel convinced about Harvetz,he will take a little long period to be able to play in Arsenal team,and as far as I'm concerned,there is no one he can bench at Arsenal's starting line up,he will just sit on the bench and wait for his time to come because even if Odegard is out due to injury,Smith Rowe can even play in that position more better that Karl.Then moving to our forward roles, Gabriel  Jesus will pair with Nketiah,and prove me wrong, Nketiah is far more better than  Balogun,forget the fact that the latter scored 21 goals last season in Reims,but if you look at his You-tube,you will see that about seven of his goals are penalty kicks,and the rest of his goals are nowhere near the kind of goals that Nketiah scores at Arsenal.
Balogun was given few minutes to play in the preseason,and he missed two big chances,one on one,which I think Nketiah would have been able to convert atleast one of them,but he missed the two big chances and made us get a draw in that game.Therefore,to me,I think Arteta should keep the three attackers in the team to compete fiercely,so we can see who is better than the other.Then for the wings,we have Martinelli and Saka,Trosard and Nelson who have done so well to deserve new contract at the club,I believe Arteta might give him chances to prove himself this season,and fight for his place in the starting line up.Overall,Arsenal have improved their team massively,and might win one of the trophies in England next season.

[Juggy777]

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I will be a very happy man once Harry Kane takes a jet off to Germany to join Bayern Munich this summer; so far it has been positive and Kane has agreed terms with the Bayern Munich transfer offer; report says that Bayern wait for Tottenham Hotspur and Levy to take the offer and the deal can be finalized. At 30 years; Harry Kane also deserves some trophy happiness; hope he gets them

@ampere it’s either Bayern or PSG for Kane as both are waiting for him and Spurs should honour his loyalty by selling him because if he had joined City last year then he would have won the premier league and if he retires without winning a single trophy then it’ll be the saddest thing to happen in modern day football. Furthermore I hope that he choses Bayern as Ligue 1 is very easy and with Bayern he’ll shine and win more honours for himself.

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

But for now Arsenal are just targeting young and promising players to bring here. Arsenal's vision has been the same for so many years. It is of course a good policy in terms of helping promising players shine and increase their values a lot. Arsenal can make a lot of profit in case they sell them just as Dortmund and Ajax have the same policy.

However Arteta looks really ambitious for achievements too. To be able to achieve bigger things they should sign a player who can be a good leader for the young players.

I agree with you on this. We can even say that this is a policy identified with Arsene Wenger. However, we must also say that Arsene Wenger has often been criticized for this policy. I think Arteta should make good and expensive transfers at this point and take risks. While teams like Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea are signing the best players in the world, it is impossible for them to win league championships or be involved in the championship race with only young and promising players. If they had a few more experienced players in the team last season, they could have played better in the last matches of the league and they could have won the league.

[AakZaki]

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However Arteta looks really ambitious for achievements too. To be able to achieve bigger things they should sign a player who can be a good leader for the young players.

If I look at Transfermarkt, the average age of players is in good times. The average age of their players is 25 years. They have 23 players out of 33 who are included in their country's national team. It looks like Arteta wants to build a team for the long term. The arrival of Declan Rice is also proof Arteta is doing that for the long term. In addition, Declan Rice also became an English player who broke the transfer record.

[Docnaster]

But for now Arsenal are just targeting young and promising players to bring here. Arsenal's vision has been the same for so many years. It is of course a good policy in terms of helping promising players shine and increase their values a lot. Arsenal can make a lot of profit in case they sell them just as Dortmund and Ajax have the same policy.

However Arteta looks really ambitious for achievements too. To be able to achieve bigger things they should sign a player who can be a good leader for the young players.

I agree with you on this. We can even say that this is a policy identified with Arsene Wenger. However, we must also say that Arsene Wenger has often been criticized for this policy. I think Arteta should make good and expensive transfers at this point and take risks. While teams like Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea are signing the best players in the world, it is impossible for them to win league championships or be involved in the championship race with only young and promising players. If they had a few more experienced players in the team last season, they could have played better in the last matches of the league and they could have won the league.

There's no doubting the fact that Arsenal aren't as busy as other English clubs when it comes to the transfer market and this not something that's new to the club system. Right from the days of Arsene Wenger up to this moment they've never spent as much as the other big six club in England.
However they spend heavily this summer to sign a player from West Ham.  The signing of Declan rice is believed to  help the club in their quest for premier league glory come next season

[DaNNy001]

But for now Arsenal are just targeting young and promising players to bring here. Arsenal's vision has been the same for so many years. It is of course a good policy in terms of helping promising players shine and increase their values a lot. Arsenal can make a lot of profit in case they sell them just as Dortmund and Ajax have the same policy.

However Arteta looks really ambitious for achievements too. To be able to achieve bigger things they should sign a player who can be a good leader for the young players.

I agree with you on this. We can even say that this is a policy identified with Arsene Wenger. However, we must also say that Arsene Wenger has often been criticized for this policy. I think Arteta should make good and expensive transfers at this point and take risks. While teams like Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea are signing the best players in the world, it is impossible for them to win league championships or be involved in the championship race with only young and promising players. If they had a few more experienced players in the team last season, they could have played better in the last matches of the league and they could have won the league.

There's no doubting the fact that Arsenal aren't as busy as other English clubs when it comes to the transfer market and this not something that's new to the club system. Right from the days of Arsene Wenger up to this moment they've never spent as much as the other big six club in England.
However they spend heavily this summer to sign a player from West Ham.  The signing of Declan rice is believed to  help the club in their quest for premier league glory come next season

Hmm, " premiere league glory", well with what I saw last season I can bet my hard earn that arsenal still lack all the capabilities to actually secure the league title and like you have said all the big boys of the premiere are hitting up deals looking to strengthen their team and Manchester city is still there and I think they can still perform same wonders they did last season although this time around it won't be easy because all the teams are now fully aware of their capabilities.

[blue Snow]

The arrival of Declan Rice is also proof Arteta is doing that for the long term. In addition, Declan Rice also became an English player who broke the transfer record.

Damn, more expensive than the cost of Haaland from Dortmund to Man City. I hope that guy is not the same as like Darwin Nunez who ended up unexpectedly when bought at expensive price. I think, Arsenal must think again how to maximize Rice's position on squad because there are some young players that ready on Rice's position which I think is still good play on the previous session. Don't be a blunder like another coach did.

[OcTradism]

Damn, more expensive than the cost of Haaland from Dortmund to Man City. I hope that guy is not the same as like Darwin Nunez who ended up unexpectedly when bought at expensive price.

English players are always overpriced but clubs in Premier League accept to pay such overpaid cost for English players because they are English clubs. I don't know they have any pressure to buy players like Maguire, Sancho, Grealish, Rice at very high prices but it is not new in Premier League. Since Rooney time, we already witnessed that trend and recent years, it's hard to say what prices are right prices for players.

Non English players have been over pricing too like Mudryk who was bought by Chelsea when he was still very unknown player in Europe and did not belong to list of star players.

I think, Arsenal must think again how to maximize Rice's position on squad because there are some young players that ready on Rice's position which I think is still good play on the previous session. Don't be a blunder like another coach did.

Rice will limit chances of young players in Arsenal and he himself will carry big pressure from the transfer. Arsenal likely want to bet and hope that they will win Premier League in a next season. Hopefully they will not break their own ceilings too much and fall into financial crisis.

[jakdanyel]

Harry Kane's future is still ambiguous now. Bayern Munich and PSG have been the teams chasing this transfer. However Kane has stated clearly that he doesn't want to join PSG. Otherwise PSG have been reported to make a bigger offer like 100 million euros to Tottenham. Kane wants only Bayern Munich now.

However Levy still doesn't seem like very keen on letting him go for a price below the value he would like. As PSG have made an offer like that I guess his demand from Bayern Munich would also be no less than that. I have heard that there is already an agreement between Bayern Munich and Kane. Bayern Munich are just working on finding a middle way with Tottenham.

[blue Snow]

However Levy still doesn't seem like very keen on letting him go for a price below the value he would like. As PSG have made an offer like that I guess his demand from Bayern Munich would also be no less than that. I have heard that there is already an agreement between Bayern Munich and Kane. Bayern Munich are just working on finding a middle way with Tottenham.

For me it's seem like a transfer market actor in Hollywood than an athlete. If Levy immediately doesn't take the action, that possible on next year Barcelona will get him for free,  . I don't know what makes the owner indecisive, If he late sell harry kane a second, he will get nothing, and his fate being nothing than more ordinary player. I don't know if you, but I don't see any special with harry kane, with 100 million euro budget is too big money for ordinary player. if i may evaluate, his price is about 20-30 Million euro not above hundred.

[Despairo]

I don't know if you, but I don't see any special with harry kane, with 100 million euro budget is too big money for ordinary player. if i may evaluate, his price is about 20-30 Million euro not above hundred.

Dude, Harry Kane's market value is currently 90 Million Euros, if he's only sold for 20-30 Million Euros, every clubs will want to sign him because they know they can sell him for double or triple price. Honestly 100 Million Euros is fair enough for Harry Kane's price, but not every club is rich including Bayern Munich.

If Bayern Munich don't want to spend 100 Million Euros, I see no reason why Harry Kane just join other European club like Manchester United or Newcastle United.

[jakdanyel]

However Levy still doesn't seem like very keen on letting him go for a price below the value he would like. As PSG have made an offer like that I guess his demand from Bayern Munich would also be no less than that. I have heard that there is already an agreement between Bayern Munich and Kane. Bayern Munich are just working on finding a middle way with Tottenham.

For me it's seem like a transfer market actor in Hollywood than an athlete. If Levy immediately doesn't take the action, that possible on next year Barcelona will get him for free,  . I don't know what makes the owner indecisive, If he late sell harry kane a second, he will get nothing, and his fate being nothing than more ordinary player. I don't know if you, but I don't see any special with harry kane, with 100 million euro budget is too big money for ordinary player. if i may evaluate, his price is about 20-30 Million euro not above hundred.

Levy shouldn't insist on not letting him go this summer. Otherwise indeed he will be leaving for free. Tottenham aren't the richest team in the league in the end. They wouldn't like to let him go like that while they can get a huge transfer fee for him. I still feel like Bayern Munich will reach an agreement with by improving their offer a little more.

Levy wants a lot of money for Kane that's for certain. Teams pay an amount like 100 million euros for younger players most of the time. On the other hand I believe Kane is a special striker. He is one of the best scorers in the world. Even though how bad Tottenham are right now Kane still continues to play like a goal machine - they finished as 8th but Kane still scored 30 goals.

Bayern Munich offered him around 80 million the last time and maybe there would be an agreement at around 90 million.

[Lordhermes]

I don't know if you, but I don't see any special with harry kane, with 100 million euro budget is too big money for ordinary player. if i may evaluate, his price is about 20-30 Million euro not above hundred.

Dude, Harry Kane's market value is currently 90 Million Euros, if he's only sold for 20-30 Million Euros, every clubs will want to sign him because they know they can sell him for double or triple price. Honestly 100 Million Euros is fair enough for Harry Kane's price, but not every club is rich including Bayern Munich.

If Bayern Munich don't want to spend 100 Million Euros, I see no reason why Harry Kane just join other European club like Manchester United or Newcastle United.

No team can pay such huge amount for Kane Harry, a player has no trophy to his name. But staying in Tottenham Hotspur is not advisable to such a talented player he needs to change challenge in another league.

If Bayern Munich, is not ready to buy him. Let Manchester United bid for him

[JeffBrad12]

I will be a very happy man once Harry Kane takes a jet off to Germany to join Bayern Munich this summer; so far it has been positive and Kane has agreed terms with the Bayern Munich transfer offer; report says that Bayern wait for Tottenham Hotspur and Levy to take the offer and the deal can be finalized. At 30 years; Harry Kane also deserves some trophy happiness; hope he gets them

It will be so stupid if kane will always stay in the garbage club like totenham. Look at this



A horrible result by totenham. Even though that was a friendly match but as you can see above, totenham was losing against westham. Totenham has made 32 total shoots but only two shots were on target.
Totenham was starting its pre season match with losing against westham which is a very embarrassing result for the club. I pity him (kane) for being jailed by totenham. If he was a smart striker and he will never ever try to stay in totenham even longer.

The question is now if i didn't even see kane tried to push totenham to sell him. It's very strange to see that. I can take a conclusion of kane is not trying to get more effort to help bayern. Kane must move to the bayern if he wanna try to increase his quality.
Staying even longer in totenham will make him lose his prime as soon as possible.

[QueenVera]

If I am not missing any news, Kane told many times that he wants to continue his career in Premier League to break the record of the league which is held by Alan Shearer. It is big regret for Premier League if no rich club there can keep Kane in the league.

Premier League all time records. Kane can break Shearer's record if he plays in Premier League like 3 or 4 more seasons.

1. Alan Shearer - 260   
2. Harry Kane - 213   
3. Wayne Rooney - 208   
4. Andrew Cole - 187   
5. Sergio Agüero - 184   
6. Frank Lampard - 177   
7. Thierry Henry - 175   
8. Robbie Fowler - 163   
9. Jermain Defoe - 162   
10. Michael Owen - 150   

If Kane hadn't accepted a deal with Bayern Munich I would have agreed that this was the reason why he'll be willing to remain in the Premier league for another season, though it took persuasions from his Dad and brother to make him agree to join the Bundesliga giants, according to the news it is said that Bayern are preparing another bid and having other ones rejected I think the Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy would have no choice but to accept this new bid and  wouldn't risk losing Kane for free next year, because that would be a very silly decisions and rumours have it that they are likely to chase Juventus striker Dusan Vlahovic if Kane's deal finally comes through before the 2023/24 season starts.
 On the other hand, the Bundesliga giants are in desperate need of a top striker and it seems they won't give up until they get their target, Kane is known for his impressive goal scoring ability and also as one of the best in his position which is more of the reason why Bayern can't wait to have his signature on their books because having more goals means standing a chance of winning more troophies and Kane on the other hand would need a trophy so moving to Bayern would be a very good decision for him, so it's a win win for both parties.

[blue Snow]

I don't know if you, but I don't see any special with harry kane, with 100 million euro budget is too big money for ordinary player. if i may evaluate, his price is about 20-30 Million euro not above hundred.

Dude, Harry Kane's market value is currently 90 Million Euros, if he's only sold for 20-30 Million Euros, every clubs will want to sign him because they know they can sell him for double or triple price. Honestly 100 Million Euros is fair enough for Harry Kane's price, but not every club is rich including Bayern Munich.

If Bayern Munich don't want to spend 100 Million Euros, I see no reason why Harry Kane just join other European club like Manchester United or Newcastle United.

yeah, it's just a comparison in my eye, because when I look at his role in the previous session, it's the same as several players with that price. I mean, There is no point if the Spurs hold Kane at a higher price, 100 million is a suitable price for him. The club shouldn't create a blunder and loss in the next year.

The question is now if i didn't even see kane tried to push totenham to sell him. It's very strange to see that. I can take a conclusion of kane is not trying to get more effort to help bayern. Kane must move to the bayern if he wanna try to increase his quality.
Staying even longer in totenham will make him lose his prime as soon as possible.

He suicides his career self if still stands in London. The decision in his hand for his future, I know it's hard, but when he has a desire go to forward it's not impossible he will get new titles on German.

[CLS63]

Tottenham is a club with no ambition for the Premier League title. If the management of the club change hands then maybe there would be some hope for them to be more competitive than this. But considering their current situation I believe they don't deserve to have a world star player like Kane in their squad.

However Kane has never been this serious to leave the club either. He just looked comfortable with his position there. Of course the club is worshipping him due to his incredible performance so far. But players like Kane shouldn't waste their time at such clubs. They should immediately leave for a competitive club.

[Juggy777]

Tottenham is a club with no ambition for the Premier League title. If the management of the club change hands then maybe there would be some hope for them to be more competitive than this. But considering their current situation I believe they don't deserve to have a world star player like Kane in their squad.

However Kane has never been this serious to leave the club either. He just looked comfortable with his position there. Of course the club is worshipping him due to his incredible performance so far. But players like Kane shouldn't waste their time at such clubs. They should immediately leave for a competitive club.

@CLS63 Kane was very serious about leaving last year and he even refused to train but in the end he realised that Levy was never going to let him go and City ended up purchasing Haaland which is why he had to stick with Tottenham during the last season. However now he has the ultimate opportunity to escape with Bayern waiting for him and I hope that he puts in a transfer request and goes on to win some trophies with Bayern.

[jakdanyel]

Luis Diaz has been getting offers from Saudi Arabia recently but Liverpool have been turning them down due to finding those offers weak. The most recent one must be like 50 million euros while his market value is 75 million. But even if some team pay at least his market value I think Liverpool still shouldn't sell him that easy.

They should search for a strong alternative first. Because there is no reason for them to lose power just because they can make a good profit in his transfer.

After Mane's departure Diaz has been doing really good to make up for Mane's absence. He has been doing wonderful since the day he joined Liverpool. He should be seen as one of the crucial players now.