⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[hyudien]

 Well, I think if Erik Ten Had lost the game he would had still retain his position as the manager of the club even though most of the fans are against ETH and would really prefer the board sack, well the coach might have his own share of the blame for the team's poor  performance but the problem is not really the coaches fault, united would begin to perform well again when their current owners decide to sell the club to a new owner that's ready to invest into the team.

I also think that way. Regardless of ETH's performance in coaching United, I think we should give ETH a chance to finish this season with the target of at least qualifying for UEFA. Manchester United actually also needs a club owner who is willing to invest because United's reserve players cannot match the quality of the main players. This is a problem and I think every coach will also have difficulties if they cannot rotate their players.

And currently Man United does not have the option to replace Erik Ten Hag. So for several seasons, we will still see Erik Ten Hag with Man United. Regardless of whether it will get better or not, it depends on the player's condition because if you look at today the opportunity to qualify further and secure a ticket to the UCL next season is getting slimmer. The strongest candidate will again be taken by Liverpool and maybe Tottenham will end up finishing in the top 4. Man United's fate is in the hands of the Glazer family. If they are able to provide profitable policies such as providing a maximum budget, then it is possible that the problems they are facing can be corrected.

[Juggy777]

 Well, I think if Erik Ten Had lost the game he would had still retain his position as the manager of the club even though most of the fans are against ETH and would really prefer the board sack, well the coach might have his own share of the blame for the team's poor  performance but the problem is not really the coaches fault, united would begin to perform well again when their current owners decide to sell the club to a new owner that's ready to invest into the team.

I also think that way. Regardless of ETH's performance in coaching United, I think we should give ETH a chance to finish this season with the target of at least qualifying for UEFA. Manchester United actually also needs a club owner who is willing to invest because United's reserve players cannot match the quality of the main players. This is a problem and I think every coach will also have difficulties if they cannot rotate their players.

And currently Man United does not have the option to replace Erik Ten Hag. So for several seasons, we will still see Erik Ten Hag with Man United. Regardless of whether it will get better or not, it depends on the player's condition because if you look at today the opportunity to qualify further and secure a ticket to the UCL next season is getting slimmer. The strongest candidate will again be taken by Liverpool and maybe Tottenham will end up finishing in the top 4. Man United's fate is in the hands of the Glazer family. If they are able to provide profitable policies such as providing a maximum budget, then it is possible that the problems they are facing can be corrected.

@hyudien ETH is not a bad coach but for some weird reason he’s not taking the bold decision of benching his star player’s and since the player’s know that they won’t be dropped their hunger to perform has evaporated. Furthermore while ETH has fixed a lot and those injuries clearly didn’t help but his poor transfer decisions and his selection of player’s could have cost him his job but for now Manchester United owner’s don’t want to sack him but few more loses and they’ll be forced to sack him.

[hahay]

I don’t see how Ten Hag would be anything short of praise and gratitude to McTominay for coming off the bench and scoring 2 goals in less than 5 minutes within the plus times to enable Manchester United take the lead. It was a lost course already with the compact nature of the Brentford defense but, McTominay was better positioned every time and this time, Maguire was on the assist!

It was a really good day for Manchester United, and the comeback in the final five minutes of the second half really surprised manager Erik ten Hag. Mc Tominay did everything in his power to give the red devils the advantage by scoring twice in the game's extra period. I believe that Manchester United simply had a lucky day and capitalised on it. Erik ten Hag needs to develop if the team is to succeed, even if I am aware that they are going through a difficult time. The team's comeback thrilled the red devil supporters. I believe Maguire is now doing what is known for with a great performance in the game.

I don't know who to thank because maybe, Erik ten Hag realized McTominay quality if he came on as a substitute. It is also possible, basically Erik ten Hag have a plan to enter McTominay from the bench, until finally McTominay managed to make two goals for the win result for Manchester United in the match. After all, it seems that not only McTominay is the hero in this match, because it seems that Maguire can also suddenly play well this match by successfully making an assist also for the goal made by McTominay. So yes, at least it can be concluded that Manchester United managed to play as a team in this match so that they managed to make a comeback by beating Brentford.

[Distraction]

I think that win by Arsenal over Manchester City in Emirates could be an indicator of a thing for this season. I mean Arsenal might maintain the title competition until the final week this time. You know how they fought for it last season for a long time. However they started a really bad streak on the final weeks which eased Manchester City's job a lot.

This time Arsenal seem even more dedicated at least for now. Winning against Manchester City in a big game isn't easy normally.

On the other hand Tottenham are also likely to join this duo in the title competition if they go on like this. Ange Postecoglou has made a big progress so far. 

[sokani]

I think that win by Arsenal over Manchester City in Emirates could be an indicator of a thing for this season. I mean Arsenal might maintain the title competition until the final week this time. You know how they fought for it last season for a long time. However they started a really bad streak on the final weeks which eased Manchester City's job a lot.

This time Arsenal seem even more dedicated at least for now. Winning against Manchester City in a big game isn't easy normally.

Arsenal is no doubt a title contender but it's too early to see them as a favourite just because they won Manchester City, the defending champion. The league has just started, there's going to be more games to be played, there's going to be injury worries and a manager ability to keep his team fit will determine how far they will go. Last season, at some point the team became fatigued and most persons claimed that Arsenal's lack of depth cost them the EPL trophy. Arsenal might make same mistake again or it could be that Mikel Arteta has learnt his mistakes, but very soon time will tell.

[Iroh]

Congratulations to Mctominay for keeping Eric Ten Hag in his seat. When Brentford scored that goal at Manchester United's stadium, I thought it was over. After that devastating defeat in the Champions League, they fell behind in the 25th minute at home. Things were looking horrible. To be honest, Brentford had a great defence, better than I expected. But the last minutes were fantastic. Let's forget about what Manu have been going through and just look at that ending. It was utterly fantastic. On the other hand, even though Manu's offence was not bad, things are not looking bright for them this season.

Lots of Congratulations indeed for Mctominay who stepped up and saved Man United from yet another humiliating home defeat. The match had gone deep into the second half and Man United had yet to score an equalizer. Looking back on their previous losses, I had very little hope that could struggle to end the game with a draw.
Very surprising and exciting to see the lads fired up and putting in pressure that broke through the defenses of Brentford twice, scoring just enough goals to win the game. Ten Hag was visibly happy when the second goal was scored. I bet he was relieved his boys didn’t lose this game. His approval ratings aren’t looking too great.

[Spack17]

Maybe McTominay became the hero for Manchester United with those 2 goals. However this is still not enough to change the fact that they are in a really alarming situation. It is difficult to trust them even in the matches against weakest teams of the league now. There is a significant problem with especially defending these days.

This weakness caused them to get a big hit in the Champions League by Galatasaray and Bayern Munich both. Because of dealing with injuries on one hand as well their defense line has become much more unreliable. Players like Lindelof, Maguire aren't very good defenders I'm afraid.

[Rampagoe004]

Maybe McTominay became the hero for Manchester United with those 2 goals. However this is still not enough to change the fact that they are in a really alarming situation. It is difficult to trust them even in the matches against weakest teams of the league now. There is a significant problem with especially defending these days.

That is for sure. Even though they were able to achieve victory, it was not an easy victory against a team of Brentford's level. United are still far from a solid team. If we talk about the defense line, I agree with your opinion that Lindelof and Maguire are playing quite badly and I wonder why Manchester United is not looking for a replacement for the two of them? Is it because the substitute defender is far below them?

[ILuckyGuyI]

That is for sure. Even though they were able to achieve victory, it was not an easy victory against a team of Brentford's level. United are still far from a solid team. If we talk about the defense line, I agree with your opinion that Lindelof and Maguire are playing quite badly and I wonder why Manchester United is not looking for a replacement for the two of them? Is it because the substitute defender is far below them?

Varane hasn't been able to play properly since the beginning of the season. Because he got injured and he is newly getting fit. Martinez is still injured as it seems. In this situation Erik ten Hag's hands have been tied about this situation unfortunately. Otherwise I'm feeling sure that we would see neither Maguire nor Lindelof there. 


By the way what do you think about the referees in the league so far? Do you think they have been fair about their decisions generally? Because lately we have started to see huge mistakes by even VAR. You should remember the huge mistake made in the Tottenham - Liverpool game. Diaz's goal was a clean one but VAR disallowed it. 

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I think that win by Arsenal over Manchester City in Emirates could be an indicator of a thing for this season. I mean Arsenal might maintain the title competition until the final week this time. You know how they fought for it last season for a long time. However they started a really bad streak on the final weeks which eased Manchester City's job a lot.

This time Arsenal seem even more dedicated at least for now. Winning against Manchester City in a big game isn't easy normally.

Arsenal is no doubt a title contender but it's too early to see them as a favourite just because they won Manchester City, the defending champion. The league has just started, there's going to be more games to be played, there's going to be injury worries and a manager ability to keep his team fit will determine how far they will go. Last season, at some point the team became fatigued and most persons claimed that Arsenal's lack of depth cost them the EPL trophy. Arsenal might make same mistake again or it could be that Mikel Arteta has learnt his mistakes, but very soon time will tell.

You are completely right, I myself was among those who expected Arsenal to in the EPL trophy last season, but unfortunately, just as yo have said, just towards the end of the season, when they were expected to play even better than they have played since the beginning of the last season, I personally can not tell what actually happened to them, whether fatigue, or they become too overwhelmed, I cant say, all I know was that they started losing and drawing games which ordinarily, they should win easily. This indeed at the end of the season cost them the EPL trophy.

Personally though, i will want to believe that not just the manager/coach of the team, but the entire team as a whole must have learnt from that mistake, and are well prepared to make sure the same does not repeat itself again this season.

And yes, it is too early to begin to see Arsenal as the favorite team in the season, there are still a lot of games to be played just as you have said, but then, i hope Arsenal will continue to give us a good game play going even further to the end of the season.

[emrecemsan]

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By the way what do you think about the referees in the league so far? Do you think they have been fair about their decisions generally? Because lately we have started to see huge mistakes by even VAR. You should remember the huge mistake made in the Tottenham - Liverpool game. Diaz's goal was a clean one but VAR disallowed it. 

Let me tell you what I think about the referees right now. I also agree with you that there have been unbelievable mistakes despite the presence of VAR system. If even VAR is going to make such mistakes easily then what is the point of having it, right?

PGMOL also admitted after the match that Diaz's goal wasn't given unrightfully. We have seen a couple of incidents like this related to goals, cards and so on. I hope to see some improvement from the decisions of the referees after this break ends. The Premier League is called as the most prestigious European league. There is no place for such simple mistakes here.

[Rampagoe004]

I hope to see some improvement from the decisions of the referees after this break ends. The Premier League is called as the most prestigious European league. There is no place for such simple mistakes here.

Referees making controversial decisions are normal in football. There are many controversies that have been recorded in history. That's all in the past. Nowadays the world is sophisticated and football has used VAR which should be able to make referee decisions cleaner. It is very unfortunate when the most prestigious league in Europe or even in the world but the referee makes such a simple mistake. I really regret the referee's attitude.

[CLS63]

Ange Postecoglou has made a huge change in the team after taking the Tottenham job. Tottenham are playing at a much more different level now compared to last season. They are able to play like this even though Kane has left the team. Because it has always been about team play. If you don't play a good football as a team then it doesn't matter whether you have a world class player in your squad.

What do you think about Tottenham's look in general of the season? Do you think they can really be a title contender this season?

[ginsan]

Ange Postecoglou has made a huge change in the team after taking the Tottenham job. Tottenham are playing at a much more different level now compared to last season. They are able to play like this even though Kane has left the team. Because it has always been about team play. If you don't play a good football as a team then it doesn't matter whether you have a world class player in your squad.

What do you think about Tottenham's look in general of the season? Do you think they can really be a title contender this season?

He has made a lot of progress for Tottenham in his first season as Tottenham coach. Tottenham have managed to maintain their hopes in the Premier League by being undefeated so far and Ange Postecoglou's brilliant achievements have received extraordinary appreciation from Fans Tottenham. Because this season Tottenham have lost their goal machine and it doesn't seem to have any effect on their performance this season. I think that the good progress made by Ange Postecoglou will make him one of the most influential coaches this season.

Yes, I remember Erik Ten Hag in his first season with Manchester United last season. Where Erik Ten Hag was able to bring Manchester United to a good performance last season by closing the season in the top 3. But in his second season with Manchester United he did not show anything better than last season. So I hope Ange Postecoglou can maintain his best performance to continue to bring good development to Tottenham this season or next season. Not just one season and this season has only been running for 8 matches so there are many obstacles that he will have to overcome in the upcoming matches.

[QueenVera]

He has made a lot of progress for Tottenham in his first season as Tottenham coach. Tottenham have managed to maintain their hopes in the Premier League by being undefeated so far and Ange Postecoglou's brilliant achievements have received extraordinary appreciation from Fans Tottenham. Because this season Tottenham have lost their goal machine and it doesn't seem to have any effect on their performance this season. I think that the good progress made by Ange Postecoglou will make him one of the most influential coaches this season.

Yes, I remember Erik Ten Hag in his first season with Manchester United last season. Where Erik Ten Hag was able to bring Manchester United to a good performance last season by closing the season in the top 3. But in his second season with Manchester United he did not show anything better than last season. So I hope Ange Postecoglou can maintain his best performance to continue to bring good development to Tottenham this season or next season. Not just one season and this season has only been running for 8 matches so there are many obstacles that he will have to overcome in the upcoming matches.

He has proved to everyone that he's the right man to make Tottenham a great club and probably give them their 1st league trophy, well I won't be too quick about giving them the league trophy cause it's not going to come easy, Arsenal, Mancity and Liverpool are still very strong contenders, however Tottenham's performance shocked everyone and I think Postecoglou deserves the Motm award for what he's done at Tottenham currently.

 Erik Ten Hag would had done better this season if the Manchester United board backed him up with lots of funds to help recruit better players especially from the defense area, and unlike Manchester United Tottenham might not be very wealthy but they've got good executives that could back Postecoglou to be successful in future if this season is very successful because he'll still face many challenges on the long run, and we'll be fully sure he the right man for the club when he overcomes those challenges.

[Rampagoe004]

 He has proved to everyone that he's the right man to make Tottenham a great club and probably give them their 1st league trophy, well I won't be too quick about giving them the league trophy cause it's not going to come easy, Arsenal, Mancity and Liverpool are still very strong contenders, however Tottenham's performance shocked everyone and I think Postecoglou deserves the Motm award for what he's done at Tottenham currently.

Tottenham has performed exceptionally this season. They are still unbeaten along with Arsenal. However, I think Tottenham are much better and from the previous season they were title contenders who had finished runners up several times in the League. Although I'm not too sure they will be able to win the title if you look at the current squad and how competitive the English league is now. Maybe I can say that the era of the top four or top five is over and team dynamics are moving quickly. I mean at the moment there are a lot of surprises that have happened in the Premier League and to be honest there have been several times where I have made mistakes in betting. Or perhaps more precisely, my losses in betting on the clubs that I favored.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I think that win by Arsenal over Manchester City in Emirates could be an indicator of a thing for this season. I mean Arsenal might maintain the title competition until the final week this time. You know how they fought for it last season for a long time. However they started a really bad streak on the final weeks which eased Manchester City's job a lot.

This time Arsenal seem even more dedicated at least for now. Winning against Manchester City in a big game isn't easy normally.

Arsenal is no doubt a title contender but it's too early to see them as a favourite just because they won Manchester City, the defending champion. The league has just started, there's going to be more games to be played, there's going to be injury worries and a manager ability to keep his team fit will determine how far they will go. Last season, at some point the team became fatigued and most persons claimed that Arsenal's lack of depth cost them the EPL trophy. Arsenal might make same mistake again or it could be that Mikel Arteta has learnt his mistakes, but very soon time will tell.

You are completely right, I myself was among those who expected Arsenal to in the EPL trophy last season, but unfortunately, just as yo have said, just towards the end of the season, when they were expected to play even better than they have played since the beginning of the last season, I personally can not tell what actually happened to them, whether fatigue, or they become too overwhelmed, I cant say, all I know was that they started losing and drawing games which ordinarily, they should win easily. This indeed at the end of the season cost them the EPL trophy.

Personally though, i will want to believe that not just the manager/coach of the team, but the entire team as a whole must have learnt from that mistake, and are well prepared to make sure the same does not repeat itself again this season.

And yes, it is too early to begin to see Arsenal as the favorite team in the season, there are still a lot of games to be played just as you have said, but then, i hope Arsenal will continue to give us a good game play going even further to the end of the season.

I had imagined something like that with Arsenal, apart from beating the UCL champion, that means a lot, so Arsenal are not playing tricks, they know very well what they are doing, these types of teams are always outstanding and They can generate a lot of controversy, of course some of the Manchester City fans can say that it was pure luck or something similar, but no, things don't work like that, I have no doubt that some help could have been obtained, a luck that is never lacking , but not everything is luck, this is something that has a lot to do with the style of play, the way the players moved, the coach's strategy, since all this weighs when it comes to having a good impact, the Arsenal may be a team that is making a difference, however I remember that they are in one of the leagues that I believe is very difficult, all the teams are doing a great job, but I admire Arsenal.

Now, the things that can have an impact on the PL are something very considered, but yes, when a team like these can make a difference based on the things that a team like Manchester City can have as a base, one as a fan He says, well, they must be the best in Europe, therefore they can make a difference, and of course when other style competitions fail, a lot of analysis can be carried out, in part Pep Guardilo knows that some players left, that is why he now has strategies very different, because when you watch City's games you see that they have a Haaland who is hardly allowed to do much, but he is a player who makes the difference, in part this has taught many that Pep Guardiola is a gem, where Practically everything ends in victories, this is something that has been shown by teams like Barcelona who in their time were the best for quite some time, they had Messi, but now Haaland is here, they have to take advantage of him.

 He has proved to everyone that he's the right man to make Tottenham a great club and probably give them their 1st league trophy, well I won't be too quick about giving them the league trophy cause it's not going to come easy, Arsenal, Mancity and Liverpool are still very strong contenders, however Tottenham's performance shocked everyone and I think Postecoglou deserves the Motm award for what he's done at Tottenham currently.

Tottenham has performed exceptionally this season. They are still unbeaten along with Arsenal. However, I think Tottenham are much better and from the previous season they were title contenders who had finished runners up several times in the League. Although I'm not too sure they will be able to win the title if you look at the current squad and how competitive the English league is now. Maybe I can say that the era of the top four or top five is over and team dynamics are moving quickly. I mean at the moment there are a lot of surprises that have happened in the Premier League and to be honest there have been several times where I have made mistakes in betting. Or perhaps more precisely, my losses in betting on the clubs that I favored.

Something that really catches my attention is that since Kane left the Tottenham boys have done better, since now I thought they were going down due to his lack, well it's quite the opposite, apparently this team has had to overcome Quickly because they have no other choice , for me the best was Kane , I don't know, but the team had to play much more to be able to cover that fact, and that is something I admire, because the Bayern at the time when they sold Lewa because it was very difficult for them to fill that huge gap, now things are different, they have a lot more work now, well, when things are for this team , one thinks , Tottenham does not stand out much, and Now without Kane, even more so I believe that things are going well for these teams, sometimes these changes are Fundamental to continue improving.

INteresting:

Premier League side fear they will lose star striker to Tottenham in January

Brentford fear that they will lose Ivan Toney in January to Tottenham or another one of the Englishman’s suitors but the West London outfit are prepared for that outcome.

That is according to Football Insider, who reports that Toney is expected to leave the club in January once he returns to action following his long-term ban for breaching the FA’s gambling rules.

The England striker believes he is ready to take the next step in his career after an incredible campaign last season which saw him manage 21 goals and five assists across 35 games in all competitions – including a best-ever return of 20 strikes in the Premier League.

Tottenham are one club ready to move for the Brentford star as Spurs look to replace the goals of Harry Kane who left for Bayern Munich in the summer.

Source: https://www.caughtoffside.com/2023/10/15/premier-league-side-fear-they-will-lose-star-striker-to-tottenham-in-january/

[Bananington]

Something that really catches my attention is that since Kane left the Tottenham boys have done better, since now I thought they were going down due to his lack, well it's quite the opposite,

Imagine how Harry Kane will feel if just as he left Tottenham this season, they now go ahead to win the premier league. He will be happy with the club for their success but will feel somehow because he was not a part of the success after dedicating so many years to the club to help achieve that dream.

Premier League side fear they will lose star striker to Tottenham in January

Brentford should not worry about this so much, that is being without Ivan Tooney, because by now they should have adjusted already to games without him, and they have a player already in his place. He is a good player that they will be able to make good money from his sales, so as a club, they should already be prepared for sale.

[Ayers]

 He has proved to everyone that he's the right man to make Tottenham a great club and probably give them their 1st league trophy, well I won't be too quick about giving them the league trophy cause it's not going to come easy, Arsenal, Mancity and Liverpool are still very strong contenders, however Tottenham's performance shocked everyone and I think Postecoglou deserves the Motm award for what he's done at Tottenham currently.

Tottenham has performed exceptionally this season. They are still unbeaten along with Arsenal. However, I think Tottenham are much better and from the previous season they were title contenders who had finished runners up several times in the League. Although I'm not too sure they will be able to win the title if you look at the current squad and how competitive the English league is now. Maybe I can say that the era of the top four or top five is over and team dynamics are moving quickly. I mean at the moment there are a lot of surprises that have happened in the Premier League and to be honest there have been several times where I have made mistakes in betting. Or perhaps more precisely, my losses in betting on the clubs that I favored.

Something that really catches my attention is that since Kane left the Tottenham boys have done better, since now I thought they were going down due to his lack, well it's quite the opposite, apparently this team has had to overcome Quickly because they have no other choice , for me the best was Kane , I don't know, but the team had to play much more to be able to cover that fact, and that is something I admire, because the Bayern at the time when they sold Lewa because it was very difficult for them to fill that huge gap, now things are different, they have a lot more work now, well, when things are for this team , one thinks , Tottenham does not stand out much, and Now without Kane, even more so I believe that things are going well for these teams, sometimes these changes are Fundamental to continue improving.

The performance from Tottenham has been really good so far this season. Like no one should have any complaints, literally. They have not lost even a single match so far. and I can already say that the performance is better already compared to the last season. Now it is only a question for them if they can continue performing consistently like this or not.

I think they will be able to perform consistently if they do not face some serious injury problems. Which I really hope that they don't. right now they have the same points as well as goal difference with Arsenal. The reason Tottenham is at first place in the table is they have scored more goals compared to Arsenal. So even though the goal difference is the same, Tottenham is at the top. I can already sense that it is going to be a really hard fight for that title this season.

[klidex]

The performance from Tottenham has been really good so far this season. Like no one should have any complaints, literally. They have not lost even a single match so far. and I can already say that the performance is better already compared to the last season. Now it is only a question for them if they can continue performing consistently like this or not.

I think they will be able to perform consistently if they do not face some serious injury problems. Which I really hope that they don't. right now they have the same points as well as goal difference with Arsenal. The reason Tottenham is at first place in the table is they have scored more goals compared to Arsenal. So even though the goal difference is the same, Tottenham is at the top. I can already sense that it is going to be a really hard fight for that title this season.

Tottenham and Arsenal are both unbeaten this season so it is difficult to determine who will win the title in the Premier league and Manchester City will not let that happen. Manchester City will try hard to catch up on points with them because there is only a small difference.

and yes this will be a fierce battle for the three of them to win the title this season but My hunch is on Arsenal for some reason seeing Arsenal's current unbeaten performance makes me a little confident that Arsenal will be able to win the trophy this season.