⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[ginsan]

Liverpool - Arsenal game has been going on really interestingly. I have enjoyed watching it until now. Arsenal's finding an early goal was really surprising for me. Liverpool weren't good enough in the first half in fact. But they still managed to find the equalizer thanks to Salah's wonderful shot. He wasted a big chance before but the way he made up for that was incredible.  

By the way were VAR referees sleeping while Liverpool's penalty wasn't given? There was a clear penalty incident there as there was a handball by an Arsenal player. But the game just continued.

I don't know when this referee problem will be solved in this league. Because the number of mistakes this season has increased more.  

What an unfortunate fate for Liverpool because we saw that the ball hit Odegaard hand but the referee remained silent without giving a penalty. A big mistake that must be judged because this is clearly detrimental to Liverpool because if a penalty is given then Liverpool will win this match. Liverpool have been disadvantaged twice by the referee in the first half of the season, the first time being against Tottenham and the second time being against Arsenal.

However, a draw is the result that both teams must accept this week and as usual there is no change for this team in the standings. The three teams, namely Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa, are quite close in terms of points for the time being. So yes, we will look at Liverpool again to shift Arsenal ranking in the coming week. Salah is certainly a great player and I was happy to see him score a beautiful goal in this match.

[Godday]

However, a draw is the result that both teams must accept this week and as usual there is no change for this team in the standings. The three teams, namely Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa, are quite close in terms of points for the time being. So yes, we will look at Liverpool again to shift Arsenal ranking in the coming week. Salah is certainly a great player and I was happy to see him score a beautiful goal in this match.

As I predicted yesterday, this match could end in a draw. The competition between Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa is still very competitive because they only differ by 1 point. But I think this is a fair result for both teams even though Liverpool was at a slight disadvantage because the referee did not give a penalty.

I was a little surprised by Newcastle's defeat to Luton. Because we know Luton is a team in the relegation zone and Newcastle is one of the strong teams in the EPL at the moment. This result made Luton improve their ranking and are already at the upper limit of the relegation zone.

[klidex]

However, a draw is the result that both teams must accept this week and as usual there is no change for this team in the standings. The three teams, namely Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa, are quite close in terms of points for the time being. So yes, we will look at Liverpool again to shift Arsenal ranking in the coming week. Salah is certainly a great player and I was happy to see him score a beautiful goal in this match.

As I predicted yesterday, this match could end in a draw. The competition between Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa is still very competitive because they only differ by 1 point. But I think this is a fair result for both teams even though Liverpool was at a slight disadvantage because the referee did not give a penalty.

I was a little surprised by Newcastle's defeat to Luton. Because we know Luton is a team in the relegation zone and Newcastle is one of the strong teams in the EPL at the moment. This result made Luton improve their ranking and are already at the upper limit of the relegation zone.

Yes, this result is a fair result for both teams knowing that both are in good condition, especially Liverpool who are superior because they play as the home team, but Arsenal can also provide more resistance and are able to take the lead through Gabriel's goal in the 4th minute. Then in the 29th minute Liverpool were able to equalize through Mohammed Salah's goal, both teams seemed to be playing in rhythm and were able to control the ball fairly. No additional goals were scored by either team until the match was over and both teams seemed satisfied with the results of sharing the points, especially Arsenal who were still in first place.

Yes, I didn't expect Newcastle to lose this match even though Newcastle is an elite club while Luton is an average club that tends to be weak. Newcastle should have been able to make good use of the match and get the full 3 points but in fact Newcastle had to swallow the bitter pill of losing to Luton.

[TastyChillySauce00]

However, a draw is the result that both teams must accept this week and as usual there is no change for this team in the standings. The three teams, namely Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa, are quite close in terms of points for the time being. So yes, we will look at Liverpool again to shift Arsenal ranking in the coming week. Salah is certainly a great player and I was happy to see him score a beautiful goal in this match.

As I predicted yesterday, this match could end in a draw. The competition between Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa is still very competitive because they only differ by 1 point. But I think this is a fair result for both teams even though Liverpool was at a slight disadvantage because the referee did not give a penalty.

Liverpool and arsenal are equal right now and no doubt that if these clubs are getting draw. Im seeing that if there was no club that is dominating each other but i must say that if this is a boring game. These clubs were not performing so well against each other. They keep waste more opportunities.
Liverpool and arsenal are only making a few goal attempts which were very bad. This is also making the result was also draw. They are playing safe and there was no club that was willing to take big gambling like going fully offensive to score
This match is far worst compared to the match between chelsea vs manchester city. It's not even attractive enough. The gameplay is also bad. Im disappointed with the performance from those clubs.

I was a little surprised by Newcastle's defeat to Luton. Because we know Luton is a team in the relegation zone and Newcastle is one of the strong teams in the EPL at the moment. This result made Luton improve their ranking and are already at the upper limit of the relegation zone.

Newcastle goes down even deeper than what i though. I can't even believe if how newcastle lost against luton town. It's very embarassing result for newcastle. Howe OUT! come one PIF, you can hire a better coach than him.
Howe is fucking garbage as a coach. The result disappoint me. Im sure that many people are all in newcastle and they are losing caused by horrible performance from newcastle.

[Sakanwa]

However, a draw is the result that both teams must accept this week and as usual there is no change for this team in the standings. The three teams, namely Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa, are quite close in terms of points for the time being. So yes, we will look at Liverpool again to shift Arsenal ranking in the coming week. Salah is certainly a great player and I was happy to see him score a beautiful goal in this match.

As I predicted yesterday, this match could end in a draw. The competition between Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa is still very competitive because they only differ by 1 point. But I think this is a fair result for both teams even though Liverpool was at a slight disadvantage because the referee did not give a penalty.

Liverpool and arsenal are equal right now and no doubt that if these clubs are getting draw. Im seeing that if there was no club that is dominating each other but i must say that if this is a boring game. These clubs were not performing so well against each other. They keep waste more opportunities.
Liverpool and arsenal are only making a few goal attempts which were very bad. This is also making the result was also draw. They are playing safe and there was no club that was willing to take big gambling like going fully offensive to score
This match is far worst compared to the match between chelsea vs manchester city. It's not even attractive enough. The gameplay is also bad. Im disappointed with the performance from those clubs.

I was a little surprised by Newcastle's defeat to Luton. Because we know Luton is a team in the relegation zone and Newcastle is one of the strong teams in the EPL at the moment. This result made Luton improve their ranking and are already at the upper limit of the relegation zone.

Newcastle goes down even deeper than what i though. I can't even believe if how newcastle lost against luton town. It's very embarassing result for newcastle. Howe OUT! come one PIF, you can hire a better coach than him.
Howe is fucking garbage as a coach. The result disappoint me. Im sure that many people are all in newcastle and they are losing caused by horrible performance from newcastle.

Why do we like talking like this,this same coach was thesame person that  coached Newcastle to their first champions league after so many years.The coach has done really well and just because they lost to Luton doesn't mean he should be sacked,Manchester United also lost to WestHam,yet Ten Hag is not much criticised.
Newcastle is not inform at the moment,they've lost that momentum and that agility they normally have because of fatigue.Almost all the teams are having similar problem now especially this Chrismas period when the schedule of matches are close to each other.The first half of the season is over,and I believe they will be looking forward to getting a good result in their next match.

[Rampagoe004]

Why do we like talking like this,this same coach was thesame person that  coached Newcastle to their first champions league after so many years.The coach has done really well and just because they lost to Luton doesn't mean he should be sacked,Manchester United also lost to WestHam,yet Ten Hag is not much criticised.

I don't think we should condemn Rob Edwards for such an embarrassing result. I mean the same as you said that the coach was the first to make Newcastle play in the Champions League and that is an extraordinary thing that must be appreciated. Indeed, the defeat against Luton looked embarrassing because no one thought this would happen. But sometimes we can understand that because the schedule is close to Christmas and Newcastle doesn't have good squad depth so it will be very difficult to rotate players at times like this.

[Distraction]

I really agree about the referee issue in the Premier League this season. We have seen unbelievable mistakes until this point. There were a couple of mistakes made in the Liverpool - Arsenal match too indeed. Like how much longer Odegaard had to touch the ball with his hand on the pitch? The call given about that was the most debatable decision of the match I think.

I wonder what is VAR's work for real. Let's see the referee of the match didn't see it clearly somehow. What was VAR doing meanwhile? That was one of the critical decisions that could have changed the direction of the match. The federation should do something about this as the situation is getting more serious.

[PokerBetting]

Liverpool - Arsenal game has been going on really interestingly. I have enjoyed watching it until now. Arsenal's finding an early goal was really surprising for me. Liverpool weren't good enough in the first half in fact. But they still managed to find the equalizer thanks to Salah's wonderful shot. He wasted a big chance before but the way he made up for that was incredible.  

By the way were VAR referees sleeping while Liverpool's penalty wasn't given? There was a clear penalty incident there as there was a handball by an Arsenal player. But the game just continued.

I don't know when this referee problem will be solved in this league. Because the number of mistakes this season has increased more.  

However, a draw is the result that both teams must accept this week and as usual there is no change for this team in the standings. The three teams, namely Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa, are quite close in terms of points for the time being. So yes, we will look at Liverpool again to shift Arsenal ranking in the coming week. Salah is certainly a great player and I was happy to see him score a beautiful goal in this match.

draw results that are very favorable to arsenal. because it is able to steal points to its main competitor at this time liverpool. although the draw result is quite fair for liverpool but it is very detrimental because it loses the full 3 points so it only gets an additional 1 point. which should have been able to lead the standings so it remains in 2nd place until now.

[samuraijin]

However, a draw is the result that both teams must accept this week and as usual there is no change for this team in the standings. The three teams, namely Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa, are quite close in terms of points for the time being. So yes, we will look at Liverpool again to shift Arsenal ranking in the coming week. Salah is certainly a great player and I was happy to see him score a beautiful goal in this match.

As I predicted yesterday, this match could end in a draw. The competition between Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa is still very competitive because they only differ by 1 point. But I think this is a fair result for both teams even though Liverpool was at a slight disadvantage because the referee did not give a penalty.

Aston Villa wasted an opportunity in the match against Sheff Utd because if Aston Villa wins, Aston Villa will definitely rise to the top of the Premier League, because everyone predicted that the Liverpool vs Arsenal match would end in a draw, but Aston Villa actually missed that opportunity, that Topping the standings was almost in sight but with a draw the chance was gone for Aston Vill.

Even though there is only a 1 point difference with Arsenal, at least Aston Villa can beat Liverpool and Arsenal in the next match because they still have a big chance of being at the top of the standings, it is true that there was something odd in last night's match that the referee really did not side with Liverpool, because Liverpool, no got a penalty when Martin Odegaard was seen holding the ball.

[tusandii]

I want to tell a story here and I feel like I get a curse if I bet on Newcastle matches, I have won 4 of these multi matches just because of the Newcastle match and I feel that this is a curse from that club even though all the matches I chose won, but Newcastle was very bad.


Talking about yesterday's match Newcastle looked lackluster while Luton surprisingly had a very strong defense and luck came after Andros Townsend scored but what I think is Newcastle really in a very bad condition unable to hold a draw against a weak club like Luton and I I think Newcastle is starting to experience a decline in performance and their consistency, which was initially very strong, has become very weak.
Actually, Miguel Almiron tried to shoot the ball several times but couldn't hit the target and from today I am very disappointed and avoid betting on every Newcastle match.

[QueenVera]

I have seen lots of posts in the forum here claiming Aston Villa might end up surprising everyone this season. I will just shake my head. How do you even think Aston Villa will win the league title? I am not underestimating Aston Villa, but I do say that the highest they can do is to end the season in the top 4, but they can’t win the league. Aston Villa performances have been really nice this season, and everyone keeps on being surprised by their nice performances, but we saw how they messed everything up yesterday. I never believed the match would be difficult for Aston Villa to win, but they couldn’t win the match, it ended in a draw.
 
If Aston Villa were able to win their match against Sheffield again yesterday, then they would have been in first place currently, but they wasted the great opportunity to stay in first place. I am always expecting disappointment from a team like Aston Villa at any moment and am not always shocked by the outcome of their match.

Aston Villa in the last 1year have been the highest point takers in the EPL. They've been exceptional at their games, winning almost always and ensuring that they stay at the top chart. No one saw them coming and they've been able to be consistent, keeping home win records this season and they've not failed to cause troubles for teams.

 They've got the capacity to remain on top but I really don't think City who's now below them would let them stay there, so if at all there'd be a change in the standings, then Villa won't go below the 6th position. They're so good to even try qualifying for the UEL next season. As competitive as the EPL has been this year, so far Villa have proven to be strong enough to fight back threats and create value and confidence in the team too.

[ajanwalker]

Winning the last Premier League match against Chelsea 1-0, Wolverhampton managed to defeat its opponent in 2+ consecutive matches for the first time since the 1973-1975 period. Wolverhampton won the match played on April 8 this year, 1-0. In this match, Wolves played more effective football.
There were no goals in the first half of the match. In the 51st minute of the 2nd half, Mario Lemina, who once played football for Galatasaray, opened the goal curtain. The excitement peaked in the last minutes of the match. 90+3. Wloverhampton scored 2-0 in the minute. Three minutes after this goal, Chelsea scored the last goal of the match and the match ended with a score of 2-1.

[shogun47]

Winning the last Premier League match against Chelsea 1-0, Wolverhampton managed to defeat its opponent in 2+ consecutive matches for the first time since the 1973-1975 period. Wolverhampton won the match played on April 8 this year, 1-0. In this match, Wolves played more effective football.
There were no goals in the first half of the match. In the 51st minute of the 2nd half, Mario Lemina, who once played football for Galatasaray, opened the goal curtain. The excitement peaked in the last minutes of the match. 90+3. Wloverhampton scored 2-0 in the minute. Three minutes after this goal, Chelsea scored the last goal of the match and the match ended with a score of 2-1.

Chelsea is slowly but surely entrenching themselves as a team that has finally arrived in the middle class of the Premier League. They have some exciting games like the ones against Manchester City and Liverpool, and they also didn't lose against Arsenal, but all these games were some weird draws. But their averageness is getting cemented by all these super fails against weak teams or weaker teams, not to be disrespectful towards the Wolverhampton Wanderers. Nkunku couldn't change much and this game was of extreme importance for Chelsea to not lose sight of any chances to finish this season with an acceptable result.

[arimamib]

Aston Villa in the last 1year have been the highest point takers in the EPL. They've been exceptional at their games, winning almost always and ensuring that they stay at the top chart. No one saw them coming and they've been able to be consistent, keeping home win records this season and they've not failed to cause troubles for teams.

 They've got the capacity to remain on top but I really don't think City who's now below them would let them stay there, so if at all there'd be a change in the standings, then Villa won't go below the 6th position. They're so good to even try qualifying for the UEL next season. As competitive as the EPL has been this year, so far Villa have proven to be strong enough to fight back threats and create value and confidence in the team too.

Aston Villa have indeed been exceptional in their games that surprises many by consistently winning and maintaining a strong position in the league. The fact that Aston Villa has been the highest point taker in the EPL over the last year speaks volumes about their effectiveness on the field. Their ability to win games consistently and have a home win record this season prove Emery's capability who build the team with resilience and competitiveness.

In Premier League that's known for the competitiveness and unpredictability, their ability to cause troubles for opposing teams and stay consistently at the top four is a testament to their quality and effectiveness. Considering their current position above Manchester City who is known for their strong performances, will likely strive to reclaim the top spot. I think, If nothing really bad happens, Aston Villa is strong enough to remain in the top four based on their recent form.

[nelson4lov]

Winning the last Premier League match against Chelsea 1-0, Wolverhampton managed to defeat its opponent in 2+ consecutive matches for the first time since the 1973-1975 period. Wolverhampton won the match played on April 8 this year, 1-0. In this match, Wolves played more effective football.
There were no goals in the first half of the match. In the 51st minute of the 2nd half, Mario Lemina, who once played football for Galatasaray, opened the goal curtain. The excitement peaked in the last minutes of the match. 90+3. Wloverhampton scored 2-0 in the minute. Three minutes after this goal, Chelsea scored the last goal of the match and the match ended with a score of 2-1.

Chelsea had all the chances in the world especially in the first half to put the game to bed but they didn't take it. Chelsea had a 2 v 1 situation with Palmer amd sterling in the lead but he decided to go solo and didn't pass the ball to Palmer which would have been an easy tap-in since the Wolves goalkeeper was already out to salvage the situation. That, along with other chances that were missed wasted by the likes of Nickolas Jackson and Broja 

[Queentoshi]

But their averageness is getting cemented by all these super fails against weak teams or weaker teams, not to be disrespectful towards the Wolverhampton Wanderers.  

Chelsea to me are just victims to their own mentality, because they really step up against the big teams and then become an embarrassment when they play against the small teams. I see no reason why Chelsea should be losing games at this point, they have been able to pass the stage where they lost every game, now they need to sort out their mentality, get it to be stable and consistent, so they can win all games, big and small against all teams.

[TastyChillySauce00]

However, a draw is the result that both teams must accept this week and as usual there is no change for this team in the standings. The three teams, namely Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa, are quite close in terms of points for the time being. So yes, we will look at Liverpool again to shift Arsenal ranking in the coming week. Salah is certainly a great player and I was happy to see him score a beautiful goal in this match.

As I predicted yesterday, this match could end in a draw. The competition between Arsenal, Liverpool and Aston Villa is still very competitive because they only differ by 1 point. But I think this is a fair result for both teams even though Liverpool was at a slight disadvantage because the referee did not give a penalty.

Liverpool and arsenal are equal right now and no doubt that if these clubs are getting draw. Im seeing that if there was no club that is dominating each other but i must say that if this is a boring game. These clubs were not performing so well against each other. They keep waste more opportunities.
Liverpool and arsenal are only making a few goal attempts which were very bad. This is also making the result was also draw. They are playing safe and there was no club that was willing to take big gambling like going fully offensive to score
This match is far worst compared to the match between chelsea vs manchester city. It's not even attractive enough. The gameplay is also bad. Im disappointed with the performance from those clubs.

I was a little surprised by Newcastle's defeat to Luton. Because we know Luton is a team in the relegation zone and Newcastle is one of the strong teams in the EPL at the moment. This result made Luton improve their ranking and are already at the upper limit of the relegation zone.

Newcastle goes down even deeper than what i though. I can't even believe if how newcastle lost against luton town. It's very embarassing result for newcastle. Howe OUT! come one PIF, you can hire a better coach than him.
Howe is fucking garbage as a coach. The result disappoint me. Im sure that many people are all in newcastle and they are losing caused by horrible performance from newcastle.

Why do we like talking like this,this same coach was thesame person that  coached Newcastle to their first champions league after so many years.The coach has done really well and just because they lost to Luton doesn't mean he should be sacked,Manchester United also lost to WestHam,yet Ten Hag is not much criticised.
Newcastle is not inform at the moment,they've lost that momentum and that agility they normally have because of fatigue.Almost all the teams are having similar problem now especially this Chrismas period when the schedule of matches are close to each other.The first half of the season is over,and I believe they will be looking forward to getting a good result in their next match.

Listed to me. PIF has been fulfilling what has been requested by howe, if he can't deliver and he was bad. Normally, this club will still win even against luton. 2 1/2 days were enough time for all of newcastle players to recover from their fatigue.
Ten hag has been criticized many times but the management of united was stupid enough in responding all of it by keeping him much longer in the club. People are also tired to see that their time was getting another lose. There will be no more UCL spot for newcastle.
A team that has got unlimited money from the owner might be able to get better result that only UCL spot. It reminds me when chelsea had signed mourinho as first professional coach, the club was able getting premier league.
At that time chelsea had been acquired by abramovich from the old owner. I meant you do have a team and unlimited money and what shall you do? The first thing is recruiting the professional coach who can rebuild your team from zero to hero.
Eddie was just building this club only to compete for the UCL spot not EPL trophy. This is the wrong thing in the new castle.

[shogun47]

But their averageness is getting cemented by all these super fails against weak teams or weaker teams, not to be disrespectful towards the Wolverhampton Wanderers.  

Chelsea to me are just victims to their own mentality, because they really step up against the big teams and then become an embarrassment when they play against the small teams. I see no reason why Chelsea should be losing games at this point, they have been able to pass the stage where they lost every game, now they need to sort out their mentality, get it to be stable and consistent, so they can win all games, big and small against all teams.

Chelsea is an object lesson for a club that tries to overrun a strong league with money. In contrast to PSG where there are no other super rich clubs pumping money into the team as if there was no tomorrow, Chelsea had to learn that a billion is not enough to buy the Premier League title. They have also made some awkward decisions in general and I don't know whether any Premier League club in the history has spent so much money in such a short amount of time. They had a player fluctuation that was getting ridiculous. They were swapping faces as if they were shuffling cards.

[mamesso]

~Snip~

Chelsea is an object lesson for a club that tries to overrun a strong league with money. In contrast to PSG where there are no other super rich clubs pumping money into the team as if there was no tomorrow, Chelsea had to learn that a billion is not enough to buy the Premier League title. They have also made some awkward decisions in general and I don't know whether any Premier League club in the history has spent so much money in such a short amount of time. They had a player fluctuation that was getting ridiculous. They were swapping faces as if they were shuffling cards.

Chelsea has quite big ambitions to restore the glory of the Abramovich era, but the current club owner does not have a strategy for rebuilding his team. Money can bring in any player they want but without strategy and calculation in developing the team, the money spent on bringing in players is like they were thrown into the trash. Pochettino is not a great coach, he often manages different clubs and ends up always being dismissed from his job, Chelsea has never learned from Manchester United's experience of frequently changing coaches.

The main problem Chelsea faced was not the players, but the coach who formulated the strategy in the game. They made a big mistake when they fired Tuchel, who was then replaced by Pochettino. In general, Pochettino has failed to manage Chelsea, the club must look for a great coach like Zidane, Xabi Alonso or another experienced coach who has presented prestigious trophies for the clubs he has managed.

[shogun47]

~Snip~

Chelsea is an object lesson for a club that tries to overrun a strong league with money. In contrast to PSG where there are no other super rich clubs pumping money into the team as if there was no tomorrow, Chelsea had to learn that a billion is not enough to buy the Premier League title. They have also made some awkward decisions in general and I don't know whether any Premier League club in the history has spent so much money in such a short amount of time. They had a player fluctuation that was getting ridiculous. They were swapping faces as if they were shuffling cards.

Chelsea has quite big ambitions to restore the glory of the Abramovich era, but the current club owner does not have a strategy for rebuilding his team. Money can bring in any player they want but without strategy and calculation in developing the team, the money spent on bringing in players is like they were thrown into the trash. Pochettino is not a great coach, he often manages different clubs and ends up always being dismissed from his job, Chelsea has never learned from Manchester United's experience of frequently changing coaches.

The main problem Chelsea faced was not the players, but the coach who formulated the strategy in the game. They made a big mistake when they fired Tuchel, who was then replaced by Pochettino. In general, Pochettino has failed to manage Chelsea, the club must look for a great coach like Zidane, Xabi Alonso or another experienced coach who has presented prestigious trophies for the clubs he has managed.

That is what they underestimated, they need a full-fledged plan to turn that huge investment into success. Todd Boehly thought he can just buy the title. But this isn't possible in the Premier League when they are competing with teams like Manchester City, Liverpool and Arsenal. One of the biggest issue they had for the last 2 years or so was the coach. They are now in a similar situation as Manchester United. A really good coach would not find it very tempting to take responsibility for a club that is in such a bad state. Now they try it with Pochettino, but he hasn't really achieved much besides winning some French trophies with PSG.